Balkans Population Projected To Significantly Decrease by 2050
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- Опубликовано: 25 июн 2024
- Greece could become the world's first country to suffer from population collapse. Its fertility rate is one of the lowest in Europe with some villages not recording a single birth in years. As much of the continent struggles with tumbling birthrates, Greece is a stark example of how hard it will be to reverse the trend. The latest numbers on the country's demographics show the population decline has reached alarming levels.
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I doubt it. Have you seen South Korea's fertility rate of 0.8. They will be the first to collapse.
They said in Europe. Learn to listen ngga
Nope if you can get food from China
Well they can solve the problem partially or improve it by allowing more immigration even if its from asian countries with similar culture who can assimilate better but the greek economy is hardly in good shape and you rarely get expats moving there except the kind who can work remotely or like really rich. And neither is hardly gonna support the local economy much except for restaurants and grocery shops and stuff
S.Korea is 51 million. Why do you believe that it will collapse?
@@exelrode😂are you serious, a racist country like South Korea.
As a Southeast Asian, it is no way anyone to want to bring their family to South Korea .
This is a global phenomena. Human population is stabilizing after a massive growth spurt from the 1600's to 2000's. We'll still have 2 billion more by 2100.
2 billion more by 2100 won't happen, UN projected peak 10.4 by 2086, but it's very mistaken and they'd come with a new revision in a couple of weeks that will probably decrease that to around 9,7, but also that will be way to optimistic, they tend to look at current rates and scale the fertility numbers straight up from there, problem in any sense is you wouldn't isolate the number to region, who cares how many are born in Nigeria if there's no births in Germany, and median age is of greater importance, in previous decades you had a median age of 25-30, now it's almost 50 some places, even if you'd stabilize births at 2.1 in varying European nations from today you'd still have a 30%+ population decline within 2-3 decades, if you want a functional system in Greece you can't look at birth numbers in Niger to say whether Greece has a problem in the future
@@SimonTmte But it's natural, so don't mess with it. Let it happen. Less people, more space. People will start making babies again because they have room to.
It's a developed world phenomena. The developing world will be the source of population growth before the global collapse.
@chadsensei-ue6jn There is enough suitable space on earth, but no homes because every one of them is owned by the rich and the banks. They want other's to lower in number so that in future they will have all the resources
Not quite, latin america and some places in the middle east are also affected
The wealthy all around the world got massively richer. Let them breed to make workers for themselves!
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Exactly
Cost of living putting it off for people. Capitalism at work.
This weird claim of it being expensive and to hard the poorest countries have the most kids like make it make sense
In a word; 'neoliberalism' - we in the west live in a neoliberal paradigm of 'market based' thinking & culture, whereas the developing world lives more in a paradigm of survival - standards of living are higher here and that is what we're used to, we see that & want that life for ourselves (and our children someday), and the society presses us into this mold also by demanding we get formal educations and commit to the 'rat race' and become productive members of the work force - without a steady supply of new people ready and willing to play this game our own economy is in danger of not being sufficiently competitive (& therefore in danger of collapse, unless we can leverage something else like resource wealth)
I believe its to do with climate change. Populations will start to shrink in areas that may become uninhabitable in years to come.
Just simply saying that not having children is down to economics doesn't seem like a good explanation by itself!
The real problem is feminism.
@@ChristineFisher123 It's cultural. Westerners (and others) want a certain lifestyle and children aren't part of that.
Did you hear the first woman interviewed? She was only talking about her work and how to get back to work as soon as possible after having a child. Well, my mother stayed at home until me and my sister were 10-11 and older and then she still only worked part time.
Western culture has changed. Women wanna work and have a career BEFORE they start a family. Personally I'm OK with that, I'm just saying there you have one reason for what's happening. BTW it's the same in East Asia and North America. And poorer countries like Brazil and Thailand are well under way too.
@@sweden_is_xxxxfacts. People desire an affluent lifestyle and kids simply don't fit in... that's all there is to it. we're a victim of our own success so to speak.
same for croatia we lost half a million people in 10 years and we only have 3.7 mil people.
Iceland has 0.3 million inhabitants and is wealthier than Germany, which has 84 million. Underfertility is no prob but good! 😁 Greetings from Greece.
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You know maybe if you become a population of 0 you'll be the richest pf them all! Please greece achieve that goal. With love Turkey.❤
@@maverick7291
No population must increase
Its gods will
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@@Eliasgreek82 And God said to them, “Be fruitful and multiply..."
From the Bible. I'll take God's word over a fasle believer who doesn't even know his own faith. It's corrupt people like you who helped destroy Christianity, better you tell the truth and say you are not Christian then pretend you are. I'll pray for your corrupt soul.
You don't have to have a large population to live well. Sweden, Finland, Norway are just a few examples. You adjust the expenses according to the number of inhabitants you have. Less "multiculturalism" means protecting national identity and reducing unnecessary expenses.
Maybe TRT would like to talk about the Turkish population decline :)
Τhey never speak about any negative aspect of their own country
Maybe there is no such thing since there were 958,408 births and 525,814 deaths in 2023
Turkey's population has more than tripled since 1960, and has been growing around 1% p.a. in recent years. Maybe you'd like to look at some statistics before running your mouth in future?
Actually Turkish media speaks about it often with even Erdogan commenting occasionally. He keeps saying we need at least 3 children per family for the last 20 years but people don't listen to him. 😁
@@Master-ng9uj Actually you are totally wrong. You need 2.1 for a stable population and Turkish birthrates keep dropping. The last numbers are 1.59 for 2023 including immigrants!
Serbian birthrate is 1.68,not 1.45, Serbia heavily supports family planning, for example for first child mother gets 4500e, for 2nd 5500e, for 3rd 20000e over 10years and more and more , there are some programmes in near future that will give 20k e for mother's first apartment. We all hope so that by 2028 birth rate will be 1.78 /woman.
Yearly 4500 euros?
Better if Serbia doesn't join EU.
As EU is largely discouraging for people to give birth and allowed mass immigration. Which is replacing the natives.
@@dorukyalcinsoy Yes, its just for the childs needs, so lowest amount is 375 euros a month.
@@Mill-wl9bx Out of interest, any source for that ?
Bravo! In Greece its 2k eur per child, that’s it. With 4 children you get some tax benefits but these are not enough incentives to get you to make a new child. 20-30k would be though!
I don't think only in Greece but all the Balkan countries, including Turkiye.
Sadly it's not true for Turkiye. In 2023 there were ~430,000 more births than deaths
@@edilee5909In Turkiye, the birth rate is high among Kurds and other minorities.
Ethnic Turks are not having more children.
@@edilee5909 Edilee-the immigrant!Andracistcnt!
@@narniadan I have no idea what you tried to say here. I am an immigrant though, I am Turkish-American.
Additionally, I like data/statistics and I don't like people being born into this horrible world, no matter the country.
@@edilee5909 take your meds.
Ya boşverın elalemi gendinizi bakın. Türkiya Türkiya olmaktan çıktı.
What? Birth rate of Turkey is still higher than Greece and all Balkans.
Close to replacement level.
Europe should stop taking migrants
This is what happens when women are forced to choose between having family or career.
Career comes first because having family is hard work especially if the partner is not sharing the responsibility. And child care and lack financial stability.
Having children means you have to give up everything, career, friends, freedom, sleep and money.
Western cultures teaches us to put ourselves first that is what women are doing now.
What % of men have incomes sufficient and are willing to be the sole breadwinner of the family? I can't think of any young couples where the man is financially able and/or willing to be the sole breadwinner. How is this purely blamed on women when men are unable to provide?
In albania it's worse the census expected 2.721.000 worse scenario now it shows it's 2.400.000 million this number was expected to get in 2060.We lost 15% in 13 years.
And Mr Mitsotakis SMILES ............
The "system" can't print "dollar&debts" if there's no "new" debtors...
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Nonsense.
How a real estate prices in Greece?
Where? In rural Greece or in Athens center?
insanely expensive
@@cr4yv3n
It's cheap in villages. 😁
this is more to life style issue….a man made problem
Have been doing it the wrong way for decades, centuries.
Before birth control became available and affordable, imagine the hardships imposed on the poor, especially on women in poverty. Having children was inevitable no matter how dire their living conditions.
I can’t help but wonder if the issue isn’t so much about money, but priorities. People are not willing to part with their lavish lifestyles, and think they require more things than they actually do in order to raise children, so it all becomes so much more expensive than necessary. That, and bringing women into the workforce drove prices up, to the point that most women HAVE to work now, and cannot stay home to start a family like they would like. It didn’t need to be that way. The truth is, they weren’t willing to trade luxury and career for children, and so they don’t have any. And they will face the consequences for it. We all will. 😔🙏
Women should be free to work if they want to, and leveraging half your population is enormously powerful - we can make that work to account for the introduced problems you are alluding to, however there are other problems created by our hyper competitive pro-Capitalist culture (neoliberalism) and those problems it appears no one seems interested in tackling or even talking about most of the time (unless you go hang out with radical Marxists).. Which is a problem because those far-left communities are basically communal nowadays, pushed so far into the margins that if they ever do have anything interesting to say almost no one else hears it
I am just wondering if it is the changing economy and the rise of service industries that forced women into the workplace. That and also the two world wars of the 20th century. Other reasons may be that men's wages started to decline; heavy industries collapsed and the rise of part-time working all favored women's entrance into the workforce.
It means that both parents are expected to work nowadays, which leaves less room to bring up large families.
That's a fact, I agree. simple as that...
I pinch pennies and lead a poor person's lifestyle. I got $130k in savings and still adding to it. And I still don't feel any sort of financial security.
I got no job security, no health insurance, a serious trip to the hospital could wipe out all savings and put me in a lifetime of debt.
TL,DR: I got no luxuries but still not financially secure.
Why can't you voice over the translations as opposed to writing it on the screen?
I don't like the countries that have a huge population like India.
Why not? Do you also dislike the United States and Germany, since they also have bif populations? Or is it perhaps something else you dislike?
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@@tomorrowneverdies567 I dislike all that sewage.
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The United States and Germany are sewage? How exactly?
@@tomorrowneverdies567 I'm talking about waste water sewage - flushing the toilet.
Thank you politicians for creating this situation 😅
Well as long as women are happy … who cares .. right ?
Then men should accept fat women because women who birthing children can't remain thin and attractive
Said a complete nihilist!
Ugh meanwhile Africa's population is skyrocketing - lucky us 😕
Ugh, you Racist.
How about we stop the focus on careers and instead focus on family? Would it be the end of the world if men and women spent the first 10 years after high school to have a family and then they could go to uni and get a career when the kids are around 5-10 years old? Why is it so important that these young people are forced into a career before anything else?
Nah west women are easy women not mariage material.
Where do you get the money for providing for ten years without working ? You also must found the right partner
How would they buy a house to raise a kid without a degree or a trade ? You can't really do it with one.
@@avancalledrupert5130 getting a degree won’t get you a house anyway. No one can afford to buy a home. Maybe build subsidised housing like they do in Austria and focus on renting until you’ve realised your family.
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Hi. I remind you that the vast majority of people in both Russia and Greece are irreligious. Greetings from Greece.
Bulgaria worse than Greece.
only the net-fertility-rate is important. It means women per women in the next generation. In Austria this net-fertility-rate counts now
to 0,6-0,7. In concrete the 4,5 million women today will be followed by 3-3,5 million women in the next generation (around 2050), and so on.
And this is a formal analytic prognosis. Some scientists are telling that a causal-analytic model will show much worst result. The inflation and the exorbitant high costs for the children are the main reason. Both parents have to work, to have a chance for covering the cost of one child. And what is with 2 or 3? Who can finance these today? The parents are working 25-27 years long only for the child rising and education for secure that the next generation will be able to earn a decent life for his/her own.
All the wars yall plan on starting going to take a toll on the populace??
that’s the thing these fools are not taking into account any potential catastrophe that may accelerate or worsen the population decline.. it’s not looking good at all
when is the new UN population estimate? Update
Because of bad economy the number of Albanians is decreased significantly those 10 years.
ama motelhanet veq po gumojn pellazgjajkat edhe me ka 2 pernihere qa u ba'imponimi i vlerave perendimore,babgjyshat i kem pas edhe ma tvarfer po i kan ba ka 10🥲
Hardly a problem tho.
Albanians have no birthrate problem. It is more of an emigration problem. Albanians had the highest birthrate in Italy and the second ones after Somalians in England. Actually, it is the Albanians who revitalised Greece 's economy and " blood" with a very young infusion blood .The problem for Greece is that even Albanians are leaving Greece for good right now to go either in Western Europe or return to Albania.
actually, all countries in the world should proceed to have some kind of stabilising their population. Because earth is overpopulated. Problem is the countries that do not do this.
you’re brain dead if you think the world is over populated 😂😂😂
What are we defining as "population decline"?
Decline in the size of population.
same in Kosova😢,reason applying by force western culture tradition,they say we belong to west and blla blla ...they destroy our life culture from day nato entered in kosova,we have -12k population in year and we ar under 1mil,all this by force just why we ar Muslim😢
Please, enough of the Bull… civilized nations have less children, or have children only if they could afford to raise them properly
Please my kosovan brother hold on Islam and stay always you and your family as conservateur Muslims if you want your race to Survival for ever just like us as a native pure amazighs of the anti atlas mountains we make alot of kids because we are a conservative Muslims native amazighs berbers without Islam we all goona get Extinction there's a women here in my town got 9 daughters alone hhhhh so please stay as a conservative Muslims with your people and make a lot of kids don't like liberal west the lost it
@@joseywales148yeah we can see how well civilized nations are raising their children. Half of them are LGBTQ members, wh0res and soy boys.
Islam is holding back kosovo in the last century. Failed country. Very poor !
Hold on to your Muslim heritage and things will fix themselves. Support from Pakistan for Kosovo. Hope you guys don't fall in the European secular trap. Most countries across the world are becoming more and more Islamic and record number are converting to Islam. We have already diagnosed the disease, its not the economic situation of the country that determines its birth rates but its feminism and secularism in general. Keep away from the prescription of this Ideology and Reclaim your Islamic heritage and all will be well.
A lot of population decline in a lot of countries already(check the list) and more countries are about to join the list in the future.
Sacrifice having children for capitalism. Pathetic
Biodiversity conservation is a concern of mankind.
But
Not having children is not a concern of humankind.
Freedom of people is a concern for you.
But
Criminals not being free is not a concern for you.
Your logic. 😁
Both biodiversity and fertility topics interest different people. But this does not mean that just because you need very specific things concerning biodiversity, you should want countries like Nigeria to have fertility rates of 5 children per person, do you.
@@tomorrowneverdies567 This is not what I am saying
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Ι know. But nor do I know what you are saying.
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We are not balkan, not even European and we are not called greeks we are Hellenes .. please do not get it twisted ..
Bill Gates is happy, his "work" has "result" !
It is not only him who is happy
The Greek woman in pink, at the beginning of the video, is just trying to come up with a socially acceptable excuse for why she doesn't feel like giving birth. Because let's be real, do you really think they have that many daycare centers in the Congo, Niger or Somalia where women have, on average, 6 - 7 children?
Yes, but they probably have lots more extended families like auntie or grandparents to help.
So less people and more money?
Yup more money to the wealthy 10% in the world, soon to be enslaved by their AI automatons.
And less poor and middle class people, is exactly what the elites are ushering, end of Mankind.
Greece ain't greasing
Look at how high unemployment is and you want moore people you are insane
Exactly. Meanwhile, they want to bring robots and driverless vehicles.
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They should get more kids.
I don't understand why they are so fixated on reversing the trend. Just accept the fact and deal with it.
The ✡️ want them to take more migrants
We need protection of all humans life from moment of conception.
We have never had more humans on this planet than ever
Biggest number of old people and growing old population.
Bro 73000 in an entire year in Pakistan we have that in a month 😂🇵🇰♥️ Thank Allah he blessed us with Islam ☪️❤
Satanic Islam
Bro,it's not a thing to brag about.....
😮in Kosova -12k population in year and we ar under 1mil population😢,reason applying by force western culture tradition,they say we belong to west and blla blla ...they destroy our life culture from day nato entered in,all this by force just why we ar Muslim😢
Im a pakistani and this is not something to brag about. Muslims and pakistan are just baby producing machines
Shut up we also have the fastest decreasing in south Asia ,even faster than Bangladesh and india
Please call people from India. we ll help your country economy and population grow. Here we are not getting Jobs due to overpopulation and less opportunities.
Nah, you don’t wanna come to Greece, there are so many better options! So many young Greeks are emigrating to other European countries to have better prospects!
@@Siss2012Those European countries they are moving to are no longer European. They are multicultural 💩
These are good news there lives to many people in this world.
They need more Muslims. Look at Germany. The original Germany is the same trend as Greece. But they have a lot of Muslims, because of that they don't make alarms. 😂😂😂😂
You mean that Germany needs more crime,r-e , drug dealing, violence, religious fanaticism. I don't think so.
That is why Germany let all those Muslims into their country… they need workers to do menial jobs
I know a native German white Muslim man with native German white Muslim women got together 7 kids alone the only way the Germans can survive and make alot of kids is when they become Muslims
Bosnia is a muslim country....
@@Dina-zf8ft He is talking about practising Muslim.
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Just open the door for Somalia. We've done that here in Sweden and the results are marvellous.
In no time at all you will have plenty of pure GREEK children running around enriching your country and culture, and they will also save your future. 😂🙈
Long live Europe! (Well, maybe not so much.)
For how long? fertility rate everywhere is going down. In India, the villages are becoming ghost towns and people are having less kids. See Muslims or Somalian is not problem, once they develop, they will drop too. Its the economic system that depends on unsustainable growth that is a problem
Better say good bye to europe on your way home. Just wait and see😉
@@matheenarif8645we will continue to grow population wise, past 4 billion in 2050 in Africa. And still continue to grow
@@kabzaify Yes. Africans will soon be half the world's population. Europe will fall, as will East Asia. It will all happen in our lifetime, unless you're really old already. 😉
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So why not take in immigrants if u are experiencing a decline
Your solution to clean up is to import 🗑 😂. What logic is that. Lose your identity for some economic numbers? Look at France 3rd world Paris
they must allow immigration to survive
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This is great! As a Muslim i hope muslims and especially pakistan & south asia follows this.
The planet can't afford more new humans and we should take care of existing ones.
Pakistan brith rate 3.2
Bangladesh aredy stabil in 2.0
Population must increase
Its gods will
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@@carkawalakhatulistiwa Can you afford to feed and educate them all? Without sending them onto the streets to earn money for the family?
Solution is simple, ease immigration and promote marrying early, having more children by giving some money and benefits in public schools, hospitals, banks etc.
They obviously don’t want that… this is premeditated by the elite
There is no country where more benefits to families are supported than Germany and yet the same problem exists there as well.
Pick and choose immigrants smartly. Take Indian Hindus they will not convert people, interfere in local politics. They respect the natives.
Nobody benefits from immigration from 🗑 places
@@dulcamarabuffoExactly. Silly Americans always say they Europe has all this so they can afford to have kids yet that's not the case
This is not an "issue". This is a good news.
The world is well overpopulated. The Earth and all the animals, except, maybe, human, are crying.
Gosh, you have no idea.
An American pollutes 90 times more than an Indian, it's not the number it's the system, and of course the countries which consume the most without discernment and which do not want to change the system.
Americans still don't have trains, so they all fly? two Americas they said in the 90s would be enough to destroy the planet...
And of course we blame people who don't pollute while the others are burning us alive!
@@user-uf2df6zf5wIt makes no difference wether or not he is clueless, from declining birth rates to a changing climate we’re doomed
EU runs on socialism so it's bad news. Also with decreasing population less jobs less taxes less business income etc.
Bye bye 👋
People were even poorer in the past. The real problem is feminism.
I'm not a feminist and won't be having kids. Incase anyone hasn't noticed, the world is on fire. Genocidal, evil psychopaths rule the world, and if we don't stop having kids, they'll ensure our kids pay the ultimate price.
Exactly it's all the 3rd world countries increasing population
No kids had labourer value in past but it's not valuable in modern society just spending more money
@@NeygarzruinedAmericaNo kids had labourer value in past but it's not valuable in modern society just spending more money
Greece has had a high abortion rate for years. One third of pregnancies end this way. There is no surprise that the population is plummetting.
Meanwhile
The muslims and jews are having 15kids per couple
Not the jews but muslims are because in Islam marriage is a requirement which obviously leads to children. Also islam says the more children you have the better your fortune will be
😂 Only pigs can do 15 😂 Never seen 15 kids . Greek people had 15 kids about 40-50 years ago
Curtail women rights and things change in months.
Brutal? Yes
But we might not have a choice
And say goodbye to humanity and civil rights. Going backwards is not a solution
The earth is already overpopulated. What is your solution to feed them all?
Women in the work force was a huge mistake. Remove them who are married from the work force and give her salary to husband to use for family
Give the salary to mother so she had motivation to bring more children children is actual jobs for men and women since the long history of humans not these artificial corporation jobs@@NeygarzruinedAmerica
Africans and Arabic men arriving soon to company helen
No Africans. Arabs maybe if they're Levant. They look like greeks
Good ridence
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