Just got my new Rp-8000f speakers. Your review is totally accurate. Very few reviews of this new model so I bought them in the blind and now am reassured that I did the right thing. Thanks.
You still liking them? I just ordered a pair and they're on their way. I have a Yamaha as1100 for my amp! I've been looking for good speakers for that beast for a while now
@@basvs9618 I got the Yamaha but I didn't go with those speakers I ended up going with a huge pair of Klipsch Heritage Cornwall III's couldn't be happier.
Excellent review! I purchased the JBL Studio 590's in March when they went on sale. They are big and beastly, as you described, but the manner in which they sound is deceiving. The horn design made me think they would be very "shouty". Having listened to them for months I can say that I am completely impressed with their sound. I find them to be very smooth. Vocals are simply outstanding! Dialogue when watching movies/TV is a also extremely clear. Additionally, listening to them a low levels doesn't take a away from their clarity. When I want to crank them, they have no problem playing at levels that I can only tolerate for short intervals. I am powering them with two channels from an Anthem MCA5 amplifier.
Those 590s are insane. They go on sale for $450 a piece at least once a year. Best towers Ive ever heard for the money and at least against anything 2-3 times the price
If you love piano music, Jazz or rock music then Klipsch is for you. Klipsch will make your life more enjoyable. Add beauty, add Klipsch...Great channel. Love your description. Great advice for high quality sound without any b.s...Thank you sir.
Great video. I own the RP 150M and just auditioned the 590s. I agree with everything. I found the horn on the JBL to be almost magic, I often heard details way outside the soundstage, but the size and build quality were not acceptable. The price was great, but I wanted higher quality in the long run. Well, that and I found a used pair of Forte before the 590s even shipped. The Klipsch feel much better quality and the RP line is the best value.
Very very informative review, and I do understand how you're relating the differences between them, and so-called audiophile speakers, which cater to one genre of music......., yet fall short once the music becomes complex. Once again, nicely done review. So much so you've made me interested in buying a pair. Thanks.
Went to the only HIFI dealer in my country about a week ago to order a pair of RP 600m, and the got a demo of the 8000f and SVS ultra Bookshelfs. The ultras were clear AF and I was going to buy it without even hearing anything else, then they played the 8000f and I fell in love, its currently in my bedroom! Another thing I like is how efficient they are, currently using an SMSL ad18 to drive them and plan to upgrade to the amp later.
Cool thing about the JBL studio 5 series is that they have a genuine compression driver for the horn. Makes a big difference folks! For Klipsch I think you have to purchase the RF7 or the heritage series to get a real compression driver for the highs.
Thank You, I have been trying to decide if The Klipsch RF-7 iii was worth the extra money over the RP line. I can not listen to Klipsch anywhere close by so I am relying on reviews and people like you with all the tidbits of information
@@53patsfan rf7 is a way superior speaker to the rp if you can afford it ..if not the reffrence premier line is a beatiful speaker ..i own them and absolutely love them
Thanks for your video. I have the 590's, 530's, and Klipsch RP series. I agree the Klipsch are much improved than past budget speakers but I find the JBL to have better soundstage and overall sound. For your room have you considered some room treatments. Some more rigs and some diffuser and absorption panels? I think you will find it will transform the sound.
The 590's will be sort after and well renowned in 20 years whilst the Klipsch will disappear in amongst the masses because the rf7 are the standouts in this era. These JBL's are special. And not many people will part with them for even more than they paid once they aren't available new anymore. The 6 series are out now. Haven't heard much about the but I'm keen to know how the 698's compare to the 590's. Those in America should jump on the 590's while you still can, I envy you.
I would really recommend you put some acoustic panels and a rug in that room. Bare walls and tile floor! I can just imagine the sound reflection in that room. Other than that good video..👍👍👍
Great comparison! 👍 Both beautiful sounding speakers. You can still get an excellent deal on the Klipsch RP-280f (previous model) speakers right now too.
@ Bryan R - I haven’t heard the 8000 in person. I have heard their isn’t a world of difference between them though and theres a couple RUclips videos demonstrating this. The RP-280f has a closed horn baffle design and the newer Klipsch the’ve opened it up. I like the build quality better on the RP-280f’s with the solid wooden plinths and no cheap plastic feet.
I recently auditioned the Klipsch RP-8000F and I immediately fell in love. They are so dynamic it's crazy. Crisp clear highs. The vocals are very very good. Like the singer stood in front of me. Allan Taylor - Colour to the moon Lady Gaga - I'll Never Love Again I auditioned this two songs and it was so good I had them on repeat for like 5x each. Crazy speakers for the money. I will buy a 5.2 system from Klipsch. 8000F 504C 500M SPL 120 x2
I just ordered My klipsch 8000 walnut color and waiting to be arriving next Friday to be paired to Sumo amp 9 plus and technics AA state of the art pre amplifier thanks for the review
Man I’ve had mine for 2 months running them with a Yamaha RXA880 and once you break them in they’re sweet , a lil off just off axis about 40deg and won’t rattle ya HVAC ducts compared to my old DCM 12s BUT .......... ! By the way mine are walnut too , beautiful I recommend.
@@elsmoov brother I received my new klipsch speakers today and sadly One of them was damage the top woffer was out of the speaker cabinet I'm sad how people manage the package no worries I will call to get a new one ☺️
Awesome job bought the rp160m awhile back sounds so clean on 300 watt class AB amp then got a klispch rw10d hybrid class AB powered sub sounds amazing most of the time I font use sub
I just bought and set up the JBL 590's They need to be 6 feet apart and towed in about 20-30 degrees sitting 8-10 feet away. Owned all three brands: Cerwin Vega horns, Klipsch horns and JBL within a 30 year time frame. The 590's are the best I've ever heard in a horn speaker. They are butter smooth, no shouting or horn annoyances and the louder you turn them up, the better they sound. Im driving them with a Yamaha P-3500S, 350 wpc@ 8 ohms pro-audio amp. Also, the reviews and rumors you hear that they are good for music only and not for hometheater is bullshit. Movies sound amazing! Gunfire, car chases, explosions etc are clear, precise with a huge soundstage. Buy them before they phase them out. You wont be disappointed...I picked them when they were on sale for a grand. The center channel is also just as good. My only criticism of the center channel is they should be either a two and a half way design or have 6-1/2 inch drivers instead of 4 inch.
Excellent review: Both are excellent speakers for me,which is better, it is impossible to say. but each one has the signature of the manufacturer: Klipsch: Loud with a tendency to highs. JBL: Natural Sound, with quick response. It is a matter of personal preferences, that is why the best sound is subjective. Thanks for sharing.
Fukit I'm sold!...i have JBL in ALL of my vehicles, have for over 20 years!...now i just have to sell one to get those JBL beasts for my home theatre!...
Nice review. Really piques my interest, so many positive opinions, recently, of this new titanium horn driver in this series. I have to admit previous Klipsch horns drive me crazy. But, I might have to look into these as possible replacements for my aging Polk towers in the home theater system. Might be time for a refresh. I like the idea that they can do double duty, music and HT. We shall see. The main system, though, will remain the JBL L80ts from the late '80s early '90s. The home version of the 4410 studio monitors which were quite popular back in the day. On the tube amp, of course! A Chinese integrated, 50 watts x 2. More than enough for the JBLs which are 90db efficient.
Klipsch 280f is a theater and a concert. Pair it with a Yamaha rxa880, 👍. Not an audiophile speaker but I'm an audiophile and I like it. It's exactly what I want for a movie and for amazement and thrills. It doesn't need to be cleanest, that's not the goal of the Klipsch. It is powerful yet never fatiguing. Their character is big, bold, strong, impactful, full of emotion. Voices are powerful, even female vocals sound big and powerful. I like that for a theater speaker for pure enjoyment. Effects on Klipsch are another level than I ever heard. Not the cleanest but definitely knock your socks off.
I found the klipsch lacking. Perhaps because of the irregular response, which is repaired with a crossover upgrade. GR research did this. The JBL, with proper dac and amp are more even, transparent and detailed than the klipsch. The klipsch are more erratic and colored.
I bought jb 580 and 530...tested with 3.1 on onkyo reciever....then I went to my friends home and tested his 3.1 klipsche setup with denon...before listening to klipsche I liked 580...but after listering klipsche I lliked klipsche a lot ...even with 3.1 setup its gettign theater sound...pin drop sounds are more accurate in klipsche....voice wise jbl is good...but backgroup music in the movie klipsche sounded so pleasant...not sure if this is due to the reciever difference......I am going to test this with denon and see if the result is same....in that case I will return. jbl
@@philipbarrett3151 Try NAD preamps (especially NAD 1155) with Yamaha power amp.Your jaw will drop!The sweet and rich tone of NAD combined with Yamaha's transparency is unbeatable!
@@ericmann1781 they have plenty of range. I upgraded center speakers a bunch of times before landing on the 504c. I highly recommend at least the 404c. The woofer, tweeter, woofer horizontal arrangement is for looks alone and as far as audio goes, it's a design flaw. An example of a properly designed center is the svs ultra center where the tweeter is on top of a midwoofer and 2 woofers on the side. The 404 and 504 are still good because they have a 2.5way crossover. They are a significant upgrade over any rp400-600. For your room, that 404c should be perfect. I have the rp 6000s and 504c and have redone all of their crossovers. If I had to do it over, I would not get klipsch speakers. They look nice, but the entire RP line has a dip in crossover response. The crossover design is so weird. This was highlighted by Danny over at gr research. Before buying any klipsch speakers, I highly recommend watching all of his videos on all the klipsch speakers he has designed crossovers for. Instead of spending a bunch of money and a LOT of time DIYing those crossovers, I might as well have just gotten some of the flat packs for DIY speakers that GR research makes. I would've spent the same amount of money and had a substantially better speaker. I'm not trying to scare you off..those are some amazing speakers I just mentioned. Would I rather have gotten any more expensive pair? No, because now I have replaced my $4 klipsch crossover with $1-200 worth in parts and now my front 3 are batting way out of their league. It's interesting to have a klipsch speaker that isn't "hot" in the tweeter. Its neutral now after the change, and it is incredible. It brought the good things about my front 3 speakers to life, it really did. Before it was either too much tweeter or too much bass...thats just how the RP line measures with the factory crossover. That's not acceptable in my opinion. The 504c and 404c are the only ones that have maybe...$6...$8 crossovers maybe. They measure a lot better. Look I'm trying to give you as much info as possible before you buy, because most of us who are really into this hobby with someone had done the same for us. Luckily for me, I found a fix with Danny at GR research offering upgrade kits to use high quality parts and upgrade bracing/damping materials inside the cabinets. The upgrade kit for the 504c was 209. For the rp8000 it is 359. I don't remember any other ones off the top of my head. DIY is definitely the way to go, if you can Sorry, that was long, and not what you wanted to hear.
Hi Tharbamar I like you review but you have to be aware that 70-80% of sound quality comes from the room and looking at you place I'm convinced it sounds no so good (samples you presented confirm that). You have bare walls and floor tiles, highly reflective surfaces. The reverbation time could be more than 1s I suppose. The recommendation for T60 for the listening rooms should be less than 500ms. So if you want to enjoy high fidelity music please add some room treatments (absorbers and diffusers). On YT you can find some samples before and after to see how hudge the effect is. You will be amazed. Good work!!
Thank you for the tip but but you don't see the 3/4 of the room because fully furnished with big area rug that you can't see in the video and the room is not badly echoing and lively as it look because you have to listen to original song for comparison. Coming from pro audio recording background, I do know a thing or two about acoustics but what is the point of auditioning and reviewing the speakers in treated room because this demo/review is trying to show/know how the speakers will sound on average room because most people will use them in untreated room and modern speaker are design with that in mind. If I do audition them in a treated room I would not know how the speakers will perform in average room. Thank you for your comment.
Awesome review!!! I guess the open tweeter have reduce the brightness that fatigue. Now I'm curious if an upgraded crossover parts will bring more clarity, detail and definition.
My guess is most of the change is in the Crossover. Coming from mostly the Car Audio World, Metal Dome Tweeters are bright by definition. You can “tame” the Aluminium/Titanium, etc, Tweeters by using the -3dB, 0dB, +3dB on the Crossovers (assuming you aren’t running Active). Most People who like a more laid back Sound use Silk Dome Tweeters. Another thing about the Crossover is what “Order” they are using and how steep the Crossover point is, and what Slope it’s rolled off at, -6dB, -12dB, -24dB.
COULDNT AGREE MORE ABOUT THE CLASSICAL MUSIC ON THE 590! Heck, I now listen to Harp and piano which just sounds spectator! Just found Hans Zimmer stuff!🤪🤪🥳 I mean WOW!😝Pefect reference type sound/music material! I do have a question because you have the same Denon AVR which I use with my 590`s🤓 Do you hear a great sound difference when you use your larger Parasound Amp you have? 🤑 I am considering going larger/upscale. 🤔 I use my 3801 in pure direct mode. It's about 180 watts into the 6 ohm's. The speakers are said to be able to take and flourish with a higher quality front end! I am also currently using the 3801 dac which seems to sound great but I suppose in the 18 years there is much better?🤔🙄🤪🤓 Thanks!
With separates it does have a little more control on the bass region but sound stage is smaller with my Parasound Halo combo, Yamaha A-S1100 and up will be better for your need in my opinion with separate DAC.
I am running the sony strdh 770 and it works great with the klipschs i have. From the klipsch page, everyone says marantz and klipsch is a match made in heaven. You should definitely check out the rf7III
Question...does the svs have a wider dispersion of sound compared to the klipsckrp8000f..is it true 3 ways speaker do have a wider soundstage..as in the speaoer disappeear effect when playing music movies etc...that the soundnis more 3d like..rathernthan u knownitncoming directly from the speaker
For the price and sound quality JBL Studio 590, equally as good as others in the list, the rest is personal preference, Linton is easy to listen but not as realistic as other two options. Thanks
2 years late with this comment. But the ls50's with an SVS pb1000 or Rythmik sub would be a dramatic improvement over the rp8000. That's not taking anything from the rp8000's as they're very good. But ls50 with a well integrated sub is very hard to beat if done WELL. Cheers.
Very Nice review 👍.. I have auditioned both Klipsch RP 8000F & Klipsch RP 6000F. I liked 8000F than RP 6000F overall. The sales person was recommending RP 6000F considering my room dimension and condominium. My living room dimension is (16x18)sqft or (5x5.5)square meter including dining space. Effectively sitting Area might be 60-70% of it i.e. (16x10)sqft or (5x3) square meter. Could you share your feedback on selection? Will RP 8000F be Overkill for my room?
Hi, has anyone compared the JBL 590 vs the SvS Ultra? If anyone has compared these 2 speakers please let me know what one was better and why you think that. Also what amplifier, reciever you used. Thank you in advance for helping me come to a decision.
Hi, Tharbamar. I'm wondering what you think about SVS Ultra Towers + 8000F for home theater use. I can't seem to come up with a conclusion on which to buy. I've searched all over google and checked out facebook, but have you tried your Ultras for movies? what would you recommend me? Thanks!
Yes I tried SVS ultras, they sound great for every use but price to performance 8000f is better choice and easier for AV amps to drive them in HT, personally I would choose 8000F easily over many speakers for HT, thanks
@@arckanum332 hope you don't mind me asking, but is there an update? torn between the ultra towers and the rp-8000f. I would love to hear your experience.
Hey friend. I'm really thinking about getting a pair of towers and thought about going vintage for this system. Nothing major but a 500 to 1k system. I have the Polk r 200s and Focals chorus 807s that I switch between but want a good powerful vintage intergated amplifier but can't afford a huge price
I completely understand that the speakers need room to breathe but how disappointing that I have the take the speakers so far away from the walls to get the best out of them . Moving them out that far just isn’t practical or look good to me in everyday life
Ls50 is almost holographic imaging as great sound stage. I prefer the Kef r300 better though. If you want amazing imaging and accurate natural sounds go with kef ls50 or the rs300. If you want loud and slightly bright....go klipsch. I do have 1 extra note......jamo is a speaker brand out of Denmark. They were actually bought by klipsch and price to price sound way better in way of articulate listening. They love power. I own the jamo c607. I have friends who have bought R7 and other klipsch speakers and all of them agree the Jamos are levels better. Infact a few of them purchased the same ones. If I had to do it over I would go with the c97. I promise you will blow your friends away assuming you have plenty of clean high current watts to send them.
From the reviews of those with both...not much difference...the Home Theater Dude says he prefers the 280s...so it comes down to looks and price...some like the looks of the 8000F and some hate it...price wise...I got mines (280s) for $299...so if you can find them...I would get them...but...if you got bank to spare...then I would get the newer model for the different tweeter...though not much different sonic wise...at least I can't hear the difference....
The RP-280F is a very good sounding speaker except the highs are slightly elevated. Klipsch has fixed this problem by raising the crossover frequency from 1700Hz to 1750Hz, making the RP-8000F a perfectly balanced speaker.
Have you heard the new jbl studio 698? I'm keen to buy the 698 or 590 but can't test the 590 as none are available locally. Prices are the same, maybe even better deal on the 698 considering there aren't many new 590's left. Can anyone who has heard both please tell me. Its for music mainly.
Yamaha is good with Klipsch. I have the RXA880. The Denon X3500H sucks with the Klipsch. It depends what you use with the Klipsch whether you will enjoy them. The Klipsch are powerful bass as heck. I am blown away by the bass of the 280F. They are a helluva theater speaker and quite good with music but not as enjoyable as the Elac UB5 with music. IMO.
Ultra towers are very good, RP-8000F only lack on very low bass performance otherwise very much comparable, I might prefer RP8000F if I compare them back to back in my room with Ultra towers.
Hey guys! I'm pretty new to this audiophilic scene but I do appreciate good sound so I decided to invest a bit and start my journey with Klipsch RP8000F. Due to my budget, not much has left for decent AMP, right now I'm on Marantz pm 6006, but I'm afraid it might be a little too weak (40W/ch). What are your thoughts, any other recommendations on AMP? Thank you a lot!
Toparak Your amp perfectly fine for average loudness level, when you upgrade I would suggest higher end Marantz, Yamaha AS1100 or AS2100 and Denon PMA1600 etc should sound great.
@@Tharbamar I have been out of this audio stuff for many years. but was under impression thin towers were more for TV and surround setups. I am running a 2 channel vintage amp. but never thought speaker selection would be so difficult. Looked at Tikon and Zu also.
The jbl's are incredible and only go on sale because not everyone likes the looks. I'd be looking at the new jbl studio 698's if I were you. New studio series, same price but won't find them on sale like the 590's. I'd love to hear them side by side.
Those JBL's certainly are beasts! They would look very cool with the Klipsch style mid and bass drivers as their ones look fairly ugly in comparison but you would have them covered most of the time anyway I guess. Who cares about the looks anyway, it's all about the sound right?! :p
Just got my new Rp-8000f speakers. Your review is totally accurate. Very few reviews of this new model so I bought them in the blind and now am reassured that I did the right thing. Thanks.
Great Choice!
You still liking them? I just ordered a pair and they're on their way. I have a Yamaha as1100 for my amp! I've been looking for good speakers for that beast for a while now
@@RabidNemo Still liking them a lot. Really clean sound.
@@RabidNemo How do the Yamaha and these speakers sound together? Do they match well?
@@basvs9618 I got the Yamaha but I didn't go with those speakers I ended up going with a huge pair of Klipsch Heritage Cornwall III's couldn't be happier.
Excellent review! I purchased the JBL Studio 590's in March when they went on sale. They are big and beastly, as you described, but the manner in which they sound is deceiving. The horn design made me think they would be very "shouty". Having listened to them for months I can say that I am completely impressed with their sound. I find them to be very smooth. Vocals are simply outstanding! Dialogue when watching movies/TV is a also extremely clear. Additionally, listening to them a low levels doesn't take a away from their clarity. When I want to crank them, they have no problem playing at levels that I can only tolerate for short intervals. I am powering them with two channels from an Anthem MCA5 amplifier.
Those 590s are insane. They go on sale for $450 a piece at least once a year. Best towers Ive ever heard for the money and at least against anything 2-3 times the price
I agreed.
@@Tharbamar do you still have them?
Hells yea brotha
Civil Operator they’re on sale now at www.jbl.com for $460 each!
I just got a pair of 590s for $480 shipped direct from harman! only $240 a pop!!!
If you love piano music, Jazz or rock music then Klipsch is for you. Klipsch will make your life more enjoyable. Add beauty, add Klipsch...Great channel. Love your description. Great advice for high quality sound without any b.s...Thank you sir.
Tharbamar, thanks for taking the time to do these reviews.
I just got my S590 yesterday! its an awesome speakers great sounds like the real JBL quality!!!!
They are hideous though.🤓
@@Turtleback8024 May to your taste but not on my sensitive ears!
@@Turtleback8024 May be*
JBL 590s are out of this world!!
Great video. I own the RP 150M and just auditioned the 590s. I agree with everything. I found the horn on the JBL to be almost magic, I often heard details way outside the soundstage, but the size and build quality were not acceptable. The price was great, but I wanted higher quality in the long run. Well, that and I found a used pair of Forte before the 590s even shipped. The Klipsch feel much better quality and the RP line is the best value.
How are you liking the Forte's?? I've got my eye on them as well.... RF-7 III or Forte is my dilemma currently!
can't you just fix the legs they stand on and then vwalla?
Very very informative review, and I do understand how you're relating the differences between them, and so-called audiophile speakers, which cater to one genre of music......., yet fall short once the music becomes complex.
Once again, nicely done review. So much so you've made me interested in buying a pair.
Thanks.
Went to the only HIFI dealer in my country about a week ago to order a pair of RP 600m, and the got a demo of the 8000f and SVS ultra Bookshelfs. The ultras were clear AF and I was going to buy it without even hearing anything else, then they played the 8000f and I fell in love, its currently in my bedroom! Another thing I like is how efficient they are, currently using an SMSL ad18 to drive them and plan to upgrade to the amp later.
U said the ultras were clear..why did u choose the rp8000f then..im between both as well...
@@abdulaleemali128 too bad he never answered 😂
We're they better?
As when you’re blind subscribers I found this review very detail. Outstanding job
Cool thing about the JBL studio 5 series is that they have a genuine compression driver for the horn. Makes a big difference folks! For Klipsch I think you have to purchase the RF7 or the heritage series to get a real compression driver for the highs.
Thank You, I have been trying to decide if The Klipsch RF-7 iii was worth the extra money over the RP line. I can not listen to Klipsch anywhere close by so I am relying on reviews and people like you with all the tidbits of information
@@53patsfan rf7 is a way superior speaker to the rp if you can afford it ..if not the reffrence premier line is a beatiful speaker ..i own them and absolutely love them
Thanks for your video. I have the 590's, 530's, and Klipsch RP series. I agree the Klipsch are much improved than past budget speakers but I find the JBL to have better soundstage and overall sound.
For your room have you considered some room treatments. Some more rigs and some diffuser and absorption panels? I think you will find it will transform the sound.
Can you Comment on differences of Soundstage M
The 590's will be sort after and well renowned in 20 years whilst the Klipsch will disappear in amongst the masses because the rf7 are the standouts in this era. These JBL's are special. And not many people will part with them for even more than they paid once they aren't available new anymore. The 6 series are out now. Haven't heard much about the but I'm keen to know how the 698's compare to the 590's. Those in America should jump on the 590's while you still can, I envy you.
My klipsch 8000 arrived a week ago it will take time to break up yesterday I warm up my Amp Wow The Beatles and the Doors sounded amazing
Great review! Just ordered 2 8000’s and the to-504c with the Yamaha 3080. I can’t wait to set it up.
How do u like them
Awesome choice on avr!
Wow great presentation! Im going to look up the jbl speakers now! I haven't been too impressed with bass coming from any of the klipses.
Thanks for your review . I like your done to earth style. No BS. 👍
Set these up last night, excited to give them a go after upgrading from the Rp-600m!
I would really recommend you put some acoustic panels and a rug in that room. Bare walls and tile floor! I can just imagine the sound reflection in that room. Other than that good video..👍👍👍
Its audible in the video. Room needs some sort of dampening
Great comparison! 👍 Both beautiful sounding speakers. You can still get an excellent deal on the Klipsch RP-280f (previous model) speakers right now too.
King Trance have your heard both the rp280f and the rp8000f? Trying to decide if I should pay more for the 8000f
@ Bryan R - I haven’t heard the 8000 in person. I have heard their isn’t a world of difference between them though and theres a couple RUclips videos demonstrating this. The RP-280f has a closed horn baffle design and the newer Klipsch the’ve opened it up. I like the build quality better on the RP-280f’s with the solid wooden plinths and no cheap plastic feet.
Got my JBL 590 connected with my Marantz 2325 . Picked them up on sale and just love them.
Thanks for doing these reviews! I am trying to decide what my next speaker will be !
Just wanna say: Glad you're back! Better than ever, i really enjoy your content!
Thank you.
I have the Klipsch rp-280f and they sound great. I like JBL speaker but like you said beauty and the beast but I'm sure Klipsch sounds better.
Thank you so much for your review : ) I have Klipsch R-28F. I have ordered Klipsch R-25C Center speaker to go with them.
Beautiful panasonic i still have my pani vt60 love it
Still have my bottom of the line tc-p50u50 panny.
You are right about RP 8000F I guessed, because I own a RP 600M!
I recently auditioned the Klipsch RP-8000F and I immediately fell in love.
They are so dynamic it's crazy. Crisp clear highs. The vocals are very very good. Like the singer stood in front of me.
Allan Taylor - Colour to the moon
Lady Gaga - I'll Never Love Again
I auditioned this two songs and it was so good I had them on repeat for like 5x each.
Crazy speakers for the money.
I will buy a 5.2 system from Klipsch.
8000F
504C
500M
SPL 120 x2
I just ordered My klipsch 8000 walnut color and waiting to be arriving next Friday to be paired to Sumo amp 9 plus and technics AA state of the art pre amplifier thanks for the review
Man I’ve had mine for 2 months running them with a Yamaha RXA880 and once you break them in they’re sweet , a lil off just off axis about 40deg and won’t rattle ya HVAC ducts compared to my old DCM 12s BUT .......... ! By the way mine are walnut too , beautiful I recommend.
@@elsmoov brother I received my new klipsch speakers today and sadly One of them was damage the top woffer was out of the speaker cabinet I'm sad how people manage the package no worries I will call to get a new one ☺️
Awesome job bought the rp160m awhile back sounds so clean on 300 watt class AB amp then got a klispch rw10d hybrid class AB powered sub sounds amazing most of the time I font use sub
Those JBL are super sized. The RP8000F are not small but they look small next to the JBL. But I love the look of the JBL.
I like the look of the JBL Beast. =) I like how it reminds me of something I would see at a theater, I love it!
I just bought and set up the JBL 590's They need to be 6 feet apart and towed in about 20-30 degrees sitting 8-10 feet away. Owned all three brands: Cerwin Vega horns, Klipsch horns and JBL within a 30 year time frame. The 590's are the best I've ever heard in a horn speaker. They are butter smooth, no shouting or horn annoyances and the louder you turn them up, the better they sound. Im driving them with a Yamaha P-3500S, 350 wpc@ 8 ohms pro-audio amp. Also, the reviews and rumors you hear that they are good for music only and not for hometheater is bullshit. Movies sound amazing! Gunfire, car chases, explosions etc are clear, precise with a huge soundstage. Buy them before they phase them out. You wont be disappointed...I picked them when they were on sale for a grand. The center channel is also just as good. My only criticism of the center channel is they should be either a two and a half way design or have 6-1/2 inch drivers instead of 4 inch.
Excellent review:
Both are excellent speakers for me,which is better, it is impossible to say. but each one has the signature of the manufacturer:
Klipsch: Loud with a tendency to highs.
JBL: Natural Sound, with quick response.
It is a matter of personal preferences, that is why the best sound is subjective.
Thanks for sharing.
Which has better sound stage?
The two speakers I was considering! Thank you
590 is better buy right now. Thanks
@@Tharbamar yes I bought them from a local and they are insane. The sound stage in my super wide room is jaw dropping
Fukit I'm sold!...i have JBL in ALL of my vehicles, have for over 20 years!...now i just have to sell one to get those JBL beasts for my home theatre!...
did you wind up getting the 570's how do they do?
Nice review. Really piques my interest, so many positive opinions, recently, of this new titanium horn driver in this series. I have to admit previous Klipsch horns drive me crazy. But, I might have to look into these as possible replacements for my aging Polk towers in the home theater system. Might be time for a refresh. I like the idea that they can do double duty, music and HT. We shall see. The main system, though, will remain the JBL L80ts from the late '80s early '90s. The home version of the 4410 studio monitors which were quite popular back in the day. On the tube amp, of course! A Chinese integrated, 50 watts x 2. More than enough for the JBLs which are 90db efficient.
Try Magnat Transpuls 1500
With all respect to the reviewer, I suggest watching this at 1.25 speed to pick up the pace.
1.5 speed was my sweet spot.
@@robbielex took your advice
Those JBL Studio 590, look awesome!
Lol they are ugly as hell.
@ Nihulistic99th - Why are you such a Pighead?
The only real problem I have with JBL is that some of their visual design choices make them look like speakers you would find at a Goodwill for 10.99.
😂 yea they do have to grow on a lot of people...just put on a tie dye tee shirt you will be fine....🎶😎
I think the jbl with the speaker grills on and the cherry wood finnish looks good in a half PA and half home hi-fi speaker kinda way.
Klipsch 280f is a theater and a concert. Pair it with a Yamaha rxa880, 👍. Not an audiophile speaker but I'm an audiophile and I like it. It's exactly what I want for a movie and for amazement and thrills.
It doesn't need to be cleanest, that's not the goal of the Klipsch. It is powerful yet never fatiguing. Their character is big, bold, strong, impactful, full of emotion. Voices are powerful, even female vocals sound big and powerful. I like that for a theater speaker for pure enjoyment. Effects on Klipsch are another level than I ever heard. Not the cleanest but definitely knock your socks off.
My experience of the JBL 500 series is they are superb at playing all music...better for music than movies.
Why are they not good for movies?
They are exceptional for movies as well!
Great audio presentation this guy's is great to listen too😊😊
I have the Klipch RF7 and they sound amazing
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I tink one of the reasons why compression drivers remind ppl of live music is because that is what they are using for amplification at live venues.
Great review! I'm sold on the rp8000's now over the prime towers
Me too going with a full klipsch rp system except for the 4 prime elevation I just brought
SVS prime is way over hyped. Only their Ultra line is worth the money
I found the klipsch lacking. Perhaps because of the irregular response, which is repaired with a crossover upgrade. GR research did this. The JBL, with proper dac and amp are more even, transparent and detailed than the klipsch. The klipsch are more erratic and colored.
I'm sure you noticed that before GR Research told you about it...LOL
do you need a DAC on top of buying a receiver(amp) or does the receiver come with something like that thansk man
I bought jb 580 and 530...tested with 3.1 on onkyo reciever....then I went to my friends home and tested his 3.1 klipsche setup with denon...before listening to klipsche I liked 580...but after listering klipsche I lliked klipsche a lot ...even with 3.1 setup its gettign theater sound...pin drop sounds are more accurate in klipsche....voice wise jbl is good...but backgroup music in the movie klipsche sounded so pleasant...not sure if this is due to the reciever difference......I am going to test this with denon and see if the result is same....in that case I will return. jbl
Awesome review! Thank you.
Best amp for JBL's are Yamaha Natural Sound amps!
The large JBL studio monitors also appreciated the Yamaha P series amps over anything else I ever heard
@@philipbarrett3151 Try NAD preamps (especially NAD 1155) with Yamaha power amp.Your jaw will drop!The sweet and rich tone of NAD combined with Yamaha's transparency is unbeatable!
Naim amplification with the 590s is magic and sounds great with every type of music I’ve tried.
@@Thunderbird139 Naim is great for Epos speakers!Especially Epos ES14.They are designed to work with Naim.
Get my rp6000fs on Tuesday. Small room. Rp500c center, and the low end will be handled by dual deep bass subs. I think this was the best choice for me
How do you like it so far? Looking at the same speakers considering my 14' by 12' living room.
@@ericmann1781 they have plenty of range. I upgraded center speakers a bunch of times before landing on the 504c. I highly recommend at least the 404c. The woofer, tweeter, woofer horizontal arrangement is for looks alone and as far as audio goes, it's a design flaw. An example of a properly designed center is the svs ultra center where the tweeter is on top of a midwoofer and 2 woofers on the side.
The 404 and 504 are still good because they have a 2.5way crossover. They are a significant upgrade over any rp400-600. For your room, that 404c should be perfect.
I have the rp 6000s and 504c and have redone all of their crossovers. If I had to do it over, I would not get klipsch speakers. They look nice, but the entire RP line has a dip in crossover response.
The crossover design is so weird. This was highlighted by Danny over at gr research.
Before buying any klipsch speakers, I highly recommend watching all of his videos on all the klipsch speakers he has designed crossovers for.
Instead of spending a bunch of money and a LOT of time DIYing those crossovers, I might as well have just gotten some of the flat packs for DIY speakers that GR research makes. I would've spent the same amount of money and had a substantially better speaker.
I'm not trying to scare you off..those are some amazing speakers I just mentioned.
Would I rather have gotten any more expensive pair? No, because now I have replaced my $4 klipsch crossover with $1-200 worth in parts and now my front 3 are batting way out of their league. It's interesting to have a klipsch speaker that isn't "hot" in the tweeter. Its neutral now after the change, and it is incredible. It brought the good things about my front 3 speakers to life, it really did. Before it was either too much tweeter or too much bass...thats just how the RP line measures with the factory crossover. That's not acceptable in my opinion. The 504c and 404c are the only ones that have maybe...$6...$8 crossovers maybe. They measure a lot better.
Look I'm trying to give you as much info as possible before you buy, because most of us who are really into this hobby with someone had done the same for us. Luckily for me, I found a fix with Danny at GR research offering upgrade kits to use high quality parts and upgrade bracing/damping materials inside the cabinets. The upgrade kit for the 504c was 209. For the rp8000 it is 359. I don't remember any other ones off the top of my head.
DIY is definitely the way to go, if you can
Sorry, that was long, and not what you wanted to hear.
Really enjoyed the review brother. Would you recommend them with a Yamaha AS-801?
Excellent review
They sound like a 3000/4000 each I love that statement thanks
Hi Tharbamar
I like you review but you have to be aware that 70-80% of sound quality comes from the room and looking at you place I'm convinced it sounds no so good (samples you presented confirm that). You have bare walls and
floor tiles, highly reflective surfaces. The reverbation time could be more than 1s I suppose. The recommendation for T60 for the listening rooms should be less than 500ms. So if you want to enjoy high fidelity music please add some room treatments (absorbers and diffusers).
On YT you can find some samples before and after to see how hudge the effect is. You will be amazed.
Good work!!
Thank you for the tip but but you don't see the 3/4 of the room because fully furnished with big area rug that you can't see in the video and the room is not badly echoing and lively as it look because you have to listen to original song for comparison.
Coming from pro audio recording background, I do know a thing or two about acoustics but what is the point of auditioning and reviewing the speakers in treated room because this demo/review is trying to show/know how the speakers will sound on average room because most people will use them in untreated room and modern speaker are design with that in mind.
If I do audition them in a treated room I would not know how the speakers will perform in average room.
Thank you for your comment.
Awesome review!!! I guess the open tweeter have reduce the brightness that fatigue.
Now I'm curious if an upgraded crossover parts will bring more clarity, detail and definition.
My guess is most of the change is in the Crossover. Coming from mostly the Car Audio World, Metal Dome Tweeters are bright by definition. You can “tame” the Aluminium/Titanium, etc, Tweeters by using the -3dB, 0dB, +3dB on the Crossovers (assuming you aren’t running Active). Most People who like a more laid back Sound use Silk Dome Tweeters. Another thing about the Crossover is what “Order” they are using and how steep the Crossover point is, and what Slope it’s rolled off at, -6dB, -12dB, -24dB.
COULDNT AGREE MORE ABOUT THE CLASSICAL MUSIC ON THE 590! Heck, I now listen to Harp and piano which just sounds spectator! Just found Hans Zimmer stuff!🤪🤪🥳 I mean WOW!😝Pefect reference type sound/music material! I do have a question because you have the same Denon AVR which I use with my 590`s🤓 Do you hear a great sound difference when you use your larger Parasound Amp you have? 🤑 I am considering going larger/upscale. 🤔 I use my 3801 in pure direct mode. It's about 180 watts into the 6 ohm's. The speakers are said to be able to take and flourish with a higher quality front end! I am also currently using the 3801 dac which seems to sound great but I suppose in the 18 years there is much better?🤔🙄🤪🤓 Thanks!
With separates it does have a little more control on the bass region but sound stage is smaller with my Parasound Halo combo, Yamaha A-S1100 and up will be better for your need in my opinion with separate DAC.
Great review! Thank you. Too bad they don’t sell JBL 590 in Canada. I like the big beast
Great job & still love the look from the JBL 590 How mush would you seal them for?
Henry47 JBL.com will sell them.
I would also love to see you review the RF-7 III !
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Great review. I am waiting for my RP-8000f and RP-504c.
My buddy actually has those JBLS :D
when you mention James Hetfield \m/
What's Up ?
Would love to know how the JBL Studio 698 compare to these 590's?
New 6 series have deeper and wider sound with more pronounced bass than 5 series.
从外形设计上看JBL比kilpsch更符合声学原理，kilpsch为了美观做了妥协。首先JBLstudio590的箱体容积更大意味着容纳的空气更多，同时为了使低音的呼吸更自然JBL有两个导向孔可以使空气快速进出。klipsch也考虑了这个问题做了一个导向孔但是是方形的，理论上面积大一些相对一个原先个导向孔但是还是没有jbl的大！JBL的箱体做了声学设计向后收敛。从这两种设计看JBL的声音中低音肯定会更自然！
杰士早年音箱設計好过现在的，以前連中音也是号角設計
I am running the sony strdh 770 and it works great with the klipschs i have. From the klipsch page, everyone says marantz and klipsch is a match made in heaven. You should definitely check out the rf7III
Question...does the svs have a wider dispersion of sound compared to the klipsckrp8000f..is it true 3 ways speaker do have a wider soundstage..as in the speaoer disappeear effect when playing music movies etc...that the soundnis more 3d like..rathernthan u knownitncoming directly from the speaker
Hi friend. Which You prefer? Klipsch RP8000f, JBL studio 590 or wharfdale linton?
For the price and sound quality JBL Studio 590, equally as good as others in the list, the rest is personal preference, Linton is easy to listen but not as realistic as other two options. Thanks
@@Tharbamar Thank You so much
Good job, bro! Thx!!!
i paired it with dynco st70 and pas 3x
I am going to listen to female vocals on my Klipsch RP280F. I have never noticed the female vocals being worse than the male vocals.
Great review as always! How would you compare rp-8000f with Kef ls50 + a sub?
2 years late with this comment. But the ls50's with an SVS pb1000 or Rythmik sub would be a dramatic improvement over the rp8000. That's not taking anything from the rp8000's as they're very good. But ls50 with a well integrated sub is very hard to beat if done WELL. Cheers.
Very Nice review 👍.. I have auditioned both Klipsch RP 8000F & Klipsch RP 6000F. I liked 8000F than RP 6000F overall. The sales person was recommending RP 6000F considering my room dimension and condominium. My living room dimension is (16x18)sqft or (5x5.5)square meter including dining space. Effectively sitting Area might be 60-70% of it i.e. (16x10)sqft or (5x3) square meter. Could you share your feedback on selection? Will RP 8000F be Overkill for my room?
How well do the RP-8000F's compare to the Wharfedale 240's you had in the past?
Hi, has anyone compared the JBL 590 vs the SvS Ultra? If anyone has compared these 2 speakers please let me know what one was better and why you think that. Also what amplifier, reciever you used. Thank you in advance for helping me come to a decision.
JBL Studio/ Genelec. I have a video that's lo-q...trust me JBL all day . Genelec will murder any of these others. Not the JBL.
Hi, Tharbamar. I'm wondering what you think about SVS Ultra Towers + 8000F for home theater use. I can't seem to come up with a conclusion on which to buy. I've searched all over google and checked out facebook, but have you tried your Ultras for movies? what would you recommend me? Thanks!
Yes I tried SVS ultras, they sound great for every use but price to performance 8000f is better choice and easier for AV amps to drive them in HT, personally I would choose 8000F easily over many speakers for HT, thanks
Tharbamar thank you. I will check those out
Just wanted to let you know I bought these guys (8000f) I’ll let you know how I like them when they come
@@arckanum332 hope you don't mind me asking, but is there an update? torn between the ultra towers and the rp-8000f. I would love to hear your experience.
@@ksandersbna would lime to hear your review as well
Hey friend. I'm really thinking about getting a pair of towers and thought about going vintage for this system. Nothing major but a 500 to 1k system. I have the Polk r 200s and Focals chorus 807s that I switch between but want a good powerful vintage intergated amplifier but can't afford a huge price
Hi - I'm wondering if you have tried the Klipsch RP-6000f speakers and how you would compare them to the RP-8000f speakers (great review, by the way!)
I have not tried 6000f, thanks
I completely understand that the speakers need room to breathe but how disappointing that I have the take the speakers so far away from the walls to get the best out of them . Moving them out that far just isn’t practical or look good to me in everyday life
Thanks for the Great review! I know the bass would be better on the Klipsch, but other than that how would they compare to the LS 50s?
Ls50 is almost holographic imaging as great sound stage. I prefer the Kef r300 better though. If you want amazing imaging and accurate natural sounds go with kef ls50 or the rs300. If you want loud and slightly bright....go klipsch. I do have 1 extra note......jamo is a speaker brand out of Denmark. They were actually bought by klipsch and price to price sound way better in way of articulate listening. They love power. I own the jamo c607. I have friends who have bought R7 and other klipsch speakers and all of them agree the Jamos are levels better. Infact a few of them purchased the same ones. If I had to do it over I would go with the c97. I promise you will blow your friends away assuming you have plenty of clean high current watts to send them.
Anybody knows what's the difference between RP-8000F and RP-280F? Similar price and looks...
It should be the same except new tweeters for 8000F.
From the reviews of those with both...not much difference...the Home Theater Dude says he prefers the 280s...so it comes down to looks and price...some like the looks of the 8000F and some hate it...price wise...I got mines (280s) for $299...so if you can find them...I would get them...but...if you got bank to spare...then I would get the newer model for the different tweeter...though not much different sonic wise...at least I can't hear the difference....
thanks for you answers guys, much appreciated
The RP-280F is a very good sounding speaker except the highs are slightly elevated. Klipsch has fixed this problem by raising the crossover frequency from 1700Hz to 1750Hz, making the RP-8000F a perfectly balanced speaker.
How do rp8000f compare with tf 7iii or b&w 702 s2? Thanks!
Have you heard the new jbl studio 698? I'm keen to buy the 698 or 590 but can't test the 590 as none are available locally. Prices are the same, maybe even better deal on the 698 considering there aren't many new 590's left. Can anyone who has heard both please tell me. Its for music mainly.
Like, tonally.
Will the RP-800F can match my power amp. EMOTIVA
XPA2 GEN3 ?(pure music listening only)
Yamaha is good with Klipsch. I have the RXA880. The Denon X3500H sucks with the Klipsch. It depends what you use with the Klipsch whether you will enjoy them. The Klipsch are powerful bass as heck. I am blown away by the bass of the 280F. They are a helluva theater speaker and quite good with music but not as enjoyable as the Elac UB5 with music. IMO.
How would JBL590 sound with Marantz? Would you please shed some light on this?
The boxes are over kill for 2 8in speakers on the 590,s if they would have went smaller ,the sound would have been a lot more tighter,,
This has most to do with what kind of electronics one paires with the speakers and whether one uses a good Eq system.
How do the RP-8000F's compare with the SVS Ultra towers?
Ultra towers are very good, RP-8000F only lack on very low bass performance otherwise very much comparable, I might prefer RP8000F if I compare them back to back in my room with Ultra towers.
@@Tharbamar Which klipsch speakers have more bass than rp8000f ? What is your opinion ? Thanks in advance.
I have not try different Klipsch towers yet.
Hey guys! I'm pretty new to this audiophilic scene but I do appreciate good sound so I decided to invest a bit and start my journey with Klipsch RP8000F. Due to my budget, not much has left for decent AMP, right now I'm on Marantz pm 6006, but I'm afraid it might be a little too weak (40W/ch). What are your thoughts, any other recommendations on AMP? Thank you a lot!
Toparak Your amp perfectly fine for average loudness level, when you upgrade I would suggest higher end Marantz, Yamaha AS1100 or AS2100 and Denon PMA1600 etc should sound great.
@@Tharbamar Thank you very much for taking the time to replay. I really appreciate it! Cheers !
How would you compare them with Wharfedale Linton Heritage?
I like these towers more than Lintons, these are better speakers base on my experience with them, thanks
@@Tharbamar I have been out of this audio stuff for many years. but was under impression thin towers were more for TV and surround setups. I am running a 2 channel vintage amp. but never thought speaker selection would be so difficult. Looked at Tikon and Zu also.
What music you played between the sections?
this jbl is best compared against the RF7 II right? by the size I guess
Hey buddy what do you think about Klipsch r-820f speakers.
Wicht one is the best thing choice
Klischp or JBL???
The jbl's are incredible and only go on sale because not everyone likes the looks. I'd be looking at the new jbl studio 698's if I were you. New studio series, same price but won't find them on sale like the 590's. I'd love to hear them side by side.
My friend are you going to review Kef R3's?Thanks!!!
Yes I will do when I have chance, thanks
Those JBL's certainly are beasts! They would look very cool with the Klipsch style mid and bass drivers as their ones look fairly ugly in comparison but you would have them covered most of the time anyway I guess. Who cares about the looks anyway, it's all about the sound right?! :p