Brits Go Home!
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- Опубликовано: 18 сен 2024
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A slightly different style today as there has been a lot of stories in the news about Spanish people wanting tourists to go home! I wanted to address it and give my perspective in addition to where I believe the soltuon can come from. Remember that this is my point of view, so whether you disagree with me, agree or just simply want to give your perspective, please feel free to join in the conversation. Let's keep it as respectful as possible though, please :)
See you in the next one!
I won’t be going to Spain this year……. Neither will my money.
I'm sorry to hear that, and who can blame you? Sad to see that I think a lot of people will be saying the same
@@Davantsiwhy don't you buy a hotel then clever clogs and do cheap pricing
@@duggdog9102 I was thinking more government intervention, such as a subsidy act. But you make a valid point, we can't make hotels reduce their prices, I was merely pointing out that we love to point the finger at Airbnb and rightfully so but nothing is said for Hotels, they seem to get past the argument with no repercussions. They are also accountable for the issue. Also, I'm English, I don't wear clogs 😉
@@Davantsi you could always move too harehills Leeds I hear its very diverse
@@duggdog9102 I'll pass, I'd rather live in a ditch 😂
How dare we go over to foreign countries, injecting large amounts of money into their economies whilst simultaneously creating an entire tourist industry for them, resulting in an accompanying infrastructure of transport logistics which the locals can also benefit from! It's an outrage!
Your comment made me laugh out loud 😂 have a great day
Well...that's a stupid comment... tourism makes local economies overly rely on such income stream... thus the incentive to the people in those places is to stop doing whatever they were doing before and only rent, serve the tourists and ruin local culture. Culture is interwoven with daily life... when your daily life is based on catering to tourists... culture becomes the same in every part of the world where people cater to tourists...
@@HladniSjeverniVjetarHe didn’t tell the Spanish government to rely on tourism when it began did he Einstein.
@@fuertewelly You clearly have no idea how economics work if you think money spent on stuff in a country doesn't assist its infrastructure. For example, Spain intentionally charges less in tax duty by volume on alcoholic beverages than most European countries, and that decision was specifically taken to attract holidaymakers to the country so volume sales of booze would net a large tax return for the Government. It then uses that revenue to fund its infrastructure, as all nations do with their tax revenue. What do you think they do with that tax money, spend it on fluffy unicorns?
I hope they realize they will go bankrupt without tourists.
NO people dont work like that . They realize only AFTER they went bankrupt . Majority of people are stupid in every nation. Thats why you cant have all people rich and wealthy . It is against basic reality
What money laundering is to Britain.
@@mukhumor I love Spain and it's people but they will always need tourism just like the costal towns in England.
@@craigrothwell6144 If the Spanish landlord can make more money out of Air B&B, it's going to be hard for the local Tradesman to get a place to live. British Sea side towns are a different story. The shops are closing down and they are becoming derelict. What with the unpredictable weather...
@@mukhumor Unpredictable weather? It will be raining :) And if the Spanish do not want to look after their own but take the highest bidder who is to blame, Just like the Welsh and the 2nd homes. Ban air b&bs
My wife is American of full blood Sicilian down all four grandparents. Sicily is stunning though there are cheaper options.
We have a favourite spot on Corfu called Kassiopi which ticks all our boxes. Corfu Town is a pleasant place to stay and walk around. Malta is just fantastic especially for history lovers ( highly influenced by Italy). Madeira is beautiful. The whole Dordogne region is difficult to find fault with the Bastide towns high on the to do list. Cascais in Portugal is excellent with an easy train ride into Lisbon. Marseilles is a busy hodge podge of French and N African and plenty of excursions to be had by bus and train. No real need for a car. Lucca makes a great base to explore Tuscany - a drive Volterra is a must, Florence can be got to by train easily and Sienna is a fairly easy drive and back to beautiful Lucca at the end of the day. Choose your spot along the Amalfi coast - it's all great. We Stay in Pompeii and use the train and buses for days out in Naples and Sorrento etc. Lille is a great city break from the UK via Eurostar. The Netherlands is great, fly into Schipol leave the airport by going downstairs to the railway station and go to Utrecht. Use that as a railway hub to see the likes of Amersfoort, Delft etc - everything in Holland is close by. Warsaw is a great city break with great museums. Wrocslaw and Krakow lovely and my favourite in Poland Gdansk. Dresden is lovely as is Meissen - just up river the whole state of Sachsen is full of lovely and unheard of hilltop towns. Goerlitz on the Polish/German border is an undiscovered gem.. City break to Prague is a break you'll want repeat. Budapest likewise. I could go on but she who must be obeyed is glaring at me. Note, not even touched the UK as yet!!!
Wow this is jam packed full of information, thanks a lot for taking the time. I actually have a series on this channel of Amalfi Coast from last summer, might be worth a look 😉
@@Davantsi It will be viewed forthwith. Thanks.
It’s too late. Malaga was growing for many years and now it’s a problem? They should have had regulation in order before. They should blame their government not the tourists!
@@drknez13 exactly that! It's not too late though 🙏🏼
It's their country. Spain is great because of the Spanish, not foreigners. You are a guest in their country and are there at their discretion. Never forget that.
Totally disagree, Spain is great because of the contribution of foreigners AND the Spanish, that is also true for the UK, France, Portugal, Germany and any other country for that matter. Let's not put people on pedestals and pretend like people have claims to land, countries are social constructs, nothing more. Spain wouldn't be what it is today if it wasn't for the EU, that's a fact. I'm not a guest, I pay taxes and live here following the laws and contributing to society. I'm a permanent resident. Tourists are guests, but we've seen how they've been treated recently. It's nothing to do with their discretion, it's the discretion of the EU who have funded a lot of the wonderful things we have here and it is for their benefit just as much as mine. I live here, I love Spain and the Spanish people, but my contributions are valid just like all the other wonderfully diverse people we have here. Have a good day 🙂
@@Davantsi sorry but I think this comes across as entitled. When you live in any country, including your home country, having a job, paying your taxes and obeying the law is the BARE MINIMUM requirement. You shouldn't expect the natives to be grateful for your contribution.
Countries are social constructs for a reason. It is because most people are instinctively tribal and want to live among their own people. Societies constructed borders to minimise conflict so different groups of people had their own space and respected each other's boundaries. The dismissal of this concept is only a recent construct. Just because you as an expat have a vested interest in not believing in this concept, it doesn't mean you have the right to dismiss natives for feeling this way.
You might be a permanent resident and your right to be in Spain is legal. But you are still a foreigner and therefore still a guest. Your right to be in Spain is legal because the Spanish afforded you that right. They can also overturn that decision. The reality is Spain is not your homeland. Being Spanish to you will never mean what it does to the native population. For them, it is their ancestral homeland and their entire identity. Respect that.
There is no denying tourists and (some) foreigners have been good for the Spanish economy but there's more to life than GDP. Have foreigners improved Spanish culture, social cohesion and society generally? I don't think so. I think their contributions in this regard have been a massive net negative. When I look at places like Benidorm, I feel aggrieved for the Spanish people. I can't even begin to imagine how they must feel at how their communities have been fundamentally changed by tourism.
@@thebeast3279take 12% GDP away and we'll see just how long they last before they need bailing out like Greece.
@@EightRad_ do they get to deport the migrants on welfare as well?
@@thebeast3279 migrants aren't entitled to welfare in Spain until they have resided there for 15 years paying in to the system. Do your research.
You are talking with blinkers mate. London and other cities are a mess because of diversity. Its not your right to be in spain. You are only there while welcome. You are right about tourism, but spain will have to find that out for themselves.
@@derekking5386 I appreciate your perspective but I don't agree. I used London as a modern day example and I agree that London isn't perfect and diversity can cause tensions. But this is something that has been going on for 1000s of years, people move and contribute. What is needed is controlled immigration. If you accept hard working, well qualified individuals, they contribute to society. If you accept just anyone, then you have a problem. Diversity works when controlled.
Also, I do have a right to be in Spain, by law as long as I pay my taxes, I have permanent residency and fully intend to get the passport. I'm passionate about living here so I voice my opinion but that's just it, it's just my opinion 🙂 have a great day!
@@Davantsi im not disagreeing on controlled mate, if people are hard working good luck to them, but it isnt controlled, enjoy spain mate, from sunny gibraltar, who spain dont want to be free. Have a good day yourself. Your beliefs are allowed in a democracy
@@derekking5386 I think you're right though, in my video I should have made it clear I was talking about controlled immigration in relation to diversification, not diversification for diversification sake. Very true! Cheers mate, have a good day 🙂
I am Spanish. Born in Spain. My father Spanish and my mother German. I feel Spanish.
When my mother came to live in Spain she was 23 years old and didn't speak a word in Spanish. She learned it all by ear and by listening. She was always integrated. She never caused a single problem and helped society as much as she could. She died in 2021 and is buried in Spain where she lived for 58 years. Why couldn't she live in Spain, can you explain it to me? Why didn´t my mother have right to live in Spain?
I think the same for English.. if they want to live in Spain... why not? As long as they behave legally and don´t cause problems and PAY taxes... Why not? I am against mass tourism because of their serious consequences (economic, energy, environmental, etc.)... not per se because they are foreigners.
The local Spanish people have the right to their own land before immigrants, it’s their heritage, who do you think you are walking into someone else’s country and telling them you have the ‘right’ to be there. You only have the right to be in someone else’s country if they say you have, the entitlement dripping off you is repulsive.
@@pickleperryemz I'm not sure you actually watched the video, which is a shame. I was pointing out that firstly, the GDP from tourism is a significant portion of the total GDP for Spain, therefore it's a positive contribution to society. I then mentioned that a woman told me I wasn't welcome in Spain even though I did nothing, as I mentioned, I pay my taxes, I follow the laws and I integrate into society. I have just as much right to be here and for someone to be xenophobic towards me doesn't give anyone a right on the basis that "they are from that country so it's ok". I also called out the government of Spain who I believe should be getting more involved. I'm making suggestions as a tax payer in Spain. I'm not claiming anyone's land. The hatred in your language and twisting my narrative shows a lack of understanding for the topic we are discussing, so I'm sorry it wasn't clear enough for you 🙂 have a good day!
If u posted that online about the migrants illegally coming to this country you would be arrested for a hate crime.
@@Davantsi ....but there are those that don't contribute....I'm an immigrant here myself, but I'm a registered resident, I pay my substantial taxes, I work here and contribute to the Spanish health system (although I have private health, as well). I know someone here that spends 9 months in Spain then goes to the UK every year to get her passport stamped. When I asked her why she didn't register as a resident in Spain - not a difficult procedure - she told me that if she did that she would have to pay her taxes here. So, taking advantage of all that Spanish society offers, but doesn't want to contribute....in short, she's a parasite.......and there are many like her in Spain.....
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Funnily enough the Spanish government gave him the right to live there, maybe they should vote for a different party next time - like Reform in UK or does it only work one way
First heard this about two years ago - the noise around it has amplified. In the year after covid we were considered more than welcome and Soutthern Europe was begging for our return. I cancelled a holiday to the Vigo area last year and went to Madeira instead. There were a trickle of Brits there doing likewise.
This year we spent our spring time on Sicily and just come back from Poland. We will return to Poland in the autumn (love the country - but only in the warmer months) and will be going to Florida in the winter. Used to go to Spain twice a year (most commonly Majorca or the Malaga area but have ventured further. Most memorable city break (do at least one a year) ever was to Seville just as covid was hitting Spain and where I got it for the first time) Seville ticked every box for us but I doubt we would bother with Spain ever again if we are this unwelcome. Spanish moaners had better wake up, there are other spots northern Europeans can spend their money in. I can remember being inundated by emails offering Bank foreclosed properties for sale for a pittance in Southern Spain especially after the 2008 problems. The Spanish seem to have very short and selective memories. It's tourist money followed by EU money (from the era where UK was an integral part of that) which pulled Spain into the 21st century which attracted industries to the country also, rebuilt the crumbling Spanish infrastructure and gave Spaniards opportunities the previous generation could only ever dream about.
Has this urrational hatred spread to the Canaries yet?
@@Scaleyback317 thank for you comment. And yes, unfortunately it's spread to the canaries too! I think your comment is a perfect example of exactly how I can see things going. Remember that it isn't all Spaniards that think this and there are some truly wonderful people here. But there does seem to be a loud minority (which is scarily growing) that wants the tourism gone. Shout too loud and it might just happen. A lot of jobs have been created from tourism here in Spain and I personally would like to see continued growth. This is a big country with a lot of empty space. Rather than capitalise on it, there seems to be little to no intervention from the government to facilitate this growth and to continue the idea that Spain is a friendly place (which for the most part it is)
@@Davantsi Thanks for the reply, looks like Madeira and Sicily for our Island hols then. Malta is great but we've done it to death. Cyprus was lovely in the '70's but is now a bulldozed mess and thought I lived there on two separate ocassions at the time it was a pleasant spot. Nowadays it's just ruined. Doubt we'll ever go back again.
Again thanks for the advice.
@@Scaleyback317 Sicily is lovely, any other recommendations for places to visit? 🙂 Thanks
Actually the Spanish are upset over a number of issues .
The young who have travelled find the bureaucracy stifling, jobs hard to get , basic jobs taken by immigrants, they are fed up with hearing the older generation moan and moan about immigration but who do nothing about it.
So it's easy to pick on Tourists , especially when the media Stoke things up but overlook or ignore the fundamentals..
@@christopherhook6789 Very well put and I think this is accurate. Again though, it's the government who should be getting involved and sorting this situation out. Thanks for your input 🙂
Air BnBs cause problems in tourist areas all over. In Cornwall the locals struggle to afford to live in the area because so many properties are bought by investors and turned into air BnBs causing shortage of homes and results in resentment and hostility to the people using them. Hotels don't take housing that could be used by locals - air BnBs do and there needs to be control over what percentage of housing in an area can be turned into them.
Totally agree, thanks for your comment 🙂
Imagine a native brit going up to a foreigner in London and telling them they should leave and are not welcome.
Laughable 😂 London is so great because of the contribution of many, whether they live there or are visiting
I was born in Scotland but grow up in Yorkshire and don't have a Scottish accent but all my family are from Scotland.
I moved back to Scotland but don't feel welcomed and people make up their mind about me as soon as they hear me speaking.
Because of the division the SNP have created i feel I can't complain about anything in my daily life because they instantly say well go back home.
If I go out on the town I always get someone starting trouble.
does it feel safer in Yorkshire? England has always been risky for a Scottish traveler but now it looks dangerous for anyone.
@@JacquelineConnell I beg to differ, take Bradford for example many people from Scotland moved there to work in the mills in the 60s and 70s so it's not unusual to meat people from Scotland.
Parts of Yorkshire can be scary but Yorkshire people are very direct, and wear their heart on their sleeve. They will let you know what they're thinking.
In Scotland I have found that they're nice to your face but talk behind your back, agreeing with you to your face but the opposite when you are not there. Although I found that people in Glasgow are more real and open minded.
Im scottish, have lived in doncaster and crewe while working, first in football then the railway. Never ever had a problem living in these places
@@derekking5386 people have a misunderstanding about how they will get treated in England and I can only say what I know about Yorkshire and they'll treat right.
While growing up in Yorkshire I always have a great time with people from Scotland that's why I decided to move back there but because of how it's been I am going to move back down the road.
@@b00ts4ndc4ts Interesting to hear from another perspective for another place. I never agreed with this narrative "well go home then!" People's claim to land is very odd to me 😂 but then again, coming from London I have seen the benefits (and of course the negatives) of diversification, plenty of Scottish in London and as far as I'm concerned they are always welcome!
They don't say Brits they say tourists.
@@anthonyclegg1511 very true! Though most tourists that visit Spain are Brits, I'm British and so I'm telling the story from my perspective 🙂 but you make a very good point.
@@Davantsi OK, but there are many Brits that live in Spain, I hope they are welcome. 👍.
@@anthonyclegg1511 It is over tourism that is causing the problems. Properties being turned into air BnBs meaning locals struggle for accommodation. The same thing happens over here in places like Cornwall.
@@chrysalis4126 yes I know, but on the thumbnail it says, Brits not welcome. 👍.
@@Davantsiwhat a load of shit hahaha.
Tourists go home??? Haha if only UK had the problem of tourists.
As with London and other locations, there is no shortage of affordable housing. The real moan behind this issue is that the ‘prime’ locations are sold by locals to whoever offers the best terms. That is what happens in a democratic country. Locals have no more right to housing in prime locations than anyone else. Prime locations often have the fastest appreciation on housing and perhaps that is what many of those moaning about this really have in mind - hypocrisy in action.
Well Brits should go portugal 🇵🇹 for their vacation.
This is a great idea 😂 beautiful country, beautiful people!
@@Davantsi plus it has a special entry gate just for Brits to enter effortlessly.
It is cheaper and more welcoming
UK was 3rd largest net contributor to the EU and Spain benefited massively directly from British tax payers hard earned money
I wonder how many Spaniards told Wellington 'you are not welcome here', when in 1812 the they begged Britain to help kick the French out of Spain and Wellington's led British troops and allies defeated the French, insuring Spain’s independents and saving it from being a glorified colony of France? 😃
Yes, But Wellington, a descendant of Brian Boru, was Irish. Spanish have long loving links with the Irish.
Another Poundland Patriot... they didn't "beg".....you need to read some books and educate yourself.... and he was called Wellesley BTW at that time, and his army was composed of British and Portuguese soldiers who could not have beaten the French without the help of the Spanish, as he and his fellow generals admit.... .
@panchopuskas1 Another jumped up armchair generalissimo…. I know he was called Wellesley BTW, but for the convenience of non history scholars, I referred to him as Wellington as most historians do BTW. Yes I know his army was composed of more than just British troops and that’s why I said his ‘British troops and allies’ BTW.
@@MrResearcher122 Maybe not so loving when those poor Armada sailors were washed up on the east coast of Ireland...but lets not go there.
There is a log jam developing and it's not going away.
Its not that easy, rather like being unable to rent a flat because a a group of yuppies are buying up local properties making it unobtainable for the local people because of rising market value , the opposite can also be true with multi nationals exploiting cheap labour through the use of overcrowded builds , minimizing expenses for employees ,and wage growth for the employer .This was always going to be the problem with freedom of movement .' So the Brits have benefited until now through moving to spain ,Taxes, being able to use pension funds, flying back and forward for some other benefits .maybe they could put back more into their local area in spain look at housing options that don't out price the local population or degrade the property value this means interacting with local government .
Good point although again, the focus here is on what the Brits should do. The government should be taking responsibility here. Not just those Brits, who indeed should be accountable. Thanks for your perspective, I appreciate it 🙂
I'm a British guy living on Rhodes, I've been here for 15 years. In the last 2 years, a huge number of properties here have gone to Air B&B. There is hardly anything left for people who love here. There are also a lot more foreign people like me living here than there used to be. The Greeks are finding it tough due to the lack of properties and the stupid prices being asked for the ones that are available. But this problem is the realm of the government and the policies of the country. And yes, there are a lot of hotels, and landlords here, which have become a little greedy, asking very high prices.
Rhodes Town is a lovely spot, the sense of history grabs the imagination. We'll almost certainly revisit at some point.
I am worried now as having booked my hotel in Mallorca before reading this news 😢😅
I will be going to Tenerife in March because I love it there :)
@@craigrothwell6144 nice! I'm sure you'll have a wonderful time 😀 have a great day
@@Davantsi Thank you. Just got back from Mallorca, Very nice but I prefer Tenerife :)
@@craigrothwell6144 is Tenerife your favourite island? I went many years ago but I feel I need to revisit!
@@Davantsi Yes I have been there about 30 times Costa Adeje if my favourite part though.
@@craigrothwell6144 someone who has visited 30 times, I'll take that as a strong recommendation 😁 thanks!
And look how brits behave towards immigrants…
Well. you seem like a tourist as well...RUclipsrs generally are. Learning the language, culture and assimilating is the moment you will be more like a local..paying taxes means nothing but giving the government money...
I see the confusion, apologies, I should have made it clear that I've lived in Spain for 6 years, I can speak Spanish, but yes I suppose you could say I'm still learning, who isn't? I can hold a conversation in Spanish though 🙂 I definitely wouldn't call myself a tourist.
Paying taxes means everything, if you pay into the society you live in, you have a right to speak your mind. I'm a permanent resident with a permanent residency card, not a tourist. I'm very much assimilated into the culture and way of life here and I am proud to live in Spain, hence why I make the sorts of videos that I do so I can show people the amazing places in this beautiful country.
But whilst we mention it, I think tourists should be shown more respect than spraying them with water guns and telling them to go home. Assuming I'm a tourist is the fault of the person making the assumption, not mine.
Pity the UK didn't have the same attitude. I wouldn't want to live in anybody else's country?
Could say the same for the Spanish students in our country
What have we done? What have I missed?
You and I and others like us have made ourselves the victims of the politics of envy. Nothng more.
Ya veremos 👀
Boots on the other foot. Ironic for many Ex Pats as they like to call themselves .
@@sfactory8253 which is short for ex-patriot meaning one has turned their back on the country they have come from and people on they other side would in turn call them migrants.
It's a choice what term you would use.
Just don't go
It is happening all over it’s an age thing and just single minded people
Una lamentable verdad! Saludos amigo
Everyone wants come uk open borders policy so tough shit Spain what goes around comes around
@@LiamMawhinney-xb1tp I think controlled immigration is good for the country, the UK isn't controlling it well enough in my opinion, I would say the same here in Spain. But they can't benefit from the EU and then expect other Europeans to leave after given financing from the EU 😂
@@Davantsi I think your wrong not good for uk because it’s getting out of hand not enough land or housing for people that already hear population is to high Spain bigger as land mass than uk