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Jim Kelly never said anything negative about Bruce and he also thought that Bruce was "untouchable" in his skill level .....so maybe he just rubbed this guy the wrong way or just didn't like him. The way this guy is bashing him here sounds personal.
I can't believe this is on you tube I thought it was lost in time, i was a young 16 year old and a huge Bruce fan, remember being a bit star struck when meeting bob baker, still got all their autographs, remember asking a question but should of asked more but was only young lol..... and I can see myself in the video with all my hair which I haven't got anymore 😁
Yes i was lucky, Well you can still meet Bruce lee co actors im sure.. unfortunately I think Robert baker is no longer with us but john saxon robert baker they are nice people.
I was at this and the 1979 and 80 conventions Dan inosanto was warming up for a demonstration and handed me Bruce lees nunchaku to see what I could do.Great day with all my friends most of them I still see today.
this was such a blessing to me, one because i love bruce, two because i love the marsjall arts and last but not least i fuond out by dna testing that i am also chinese, very proud!
@@antoniosaxon8605 So sori for the loss of your father. He was one of my favourite actors and I remember he was also on Nightmare on Elm st. I hope you have fantastic memories of him, he was very photogenic.
Man i thought i would never see this. After the letters that broke out at the Heritage auction last week, its a revelation hearing the real Bob Baker talk. RIP to him..
It's Bob Bakers only interview. Just wish he had spoken more. There is another video of the previous day's convention in London but he more or less says the same things with a few added details here and there which could be different. Thanks for watching and leaving a comment 👍
This was great! Thanks for posting. You can sense a true understanding of the real meaning of martial arts in all of the guest speakers, especially Bruce's student. John Saxon was impressive and very sincere.
I appreciate William's testimony concerning Bruce, but from what I gleaned over the years, Bruce DID, in fact, possess Natural speed. But he continued to work at it, which is why he was so difficult to deal with in sparring match-ups!
@@antoniosaxon8605 Such an honour to have you, John Saxons son, leave a comment. Your father was an inspiring and charasmatic man. I hope people get in touch with you regards your question. Best wishes to you and your family. Thank you and take care. H
Interesting that George talked of Shih Kien being on his last legs, and that he probably wouldn't be around much longer. He actually lived another 19 years after this program, passing away at age 96. Bob Baker would unfortunately die just a few years after this interview, in his early 50s; and Howard Williams would go on another 12 years, passing in 2012. If I had attended this event, I would have probably bored everyone stiff asking JKD questions of Howard Williams, lol
Tommy always spoke very highly of Howard Williams .....Of his extraordinary power & how he understood economy & the direction Bruce was taking JKD....Seemed a nice guy too....He was just a young man when he trained with Bruce.
Many thanks Greg for uploading this video. It’s a great piece of history to watch and the likes of it, will in all probability, never happen again. Did you get the chance to speak to George Tan, Howard Williams or John Saxon on the day? Can you share any other interesting information about that day?
@@antoniosaxon8605 Thank you for taking the time to share about your father, Antonio. Glad to hear he was as wonderful as he comes across at conventions. I wish I had what you're requesting. I hope someone will come through for you. Question: was your father born in 1936, as IMDb claims? Or 1935 as fans are saying? Please take care of yourself.
@@antoniosaxon8605 Sorry sir. I am at a loss. I apologize if there is any misunderstanding.I am a fan of your father and I am on your side. Please kindly re-read. Anything that offended you has to be a misunderstanding. Which "asinine" comment? I have posted nothing but praise towards your father. I was just now responding to someone else trying to understand him. Again, very sorry for any confusion. I am saddened to have caused you grief. Not my intention. Please believe me. Peace.
@@antoniosaxon8605 Oh I think I understand. This is what happened: I did not know this was a convention about Bruce Lee. I watched this video after watching many and everyone was asking your father about "Bruce Lee'. I kept thinking "why aren't they asking about him" (which is my interest, not Bruce Lee) and someone explained to me that it was a B.L. convention. I know your father is very well-loved. I am sorry to have caused you upset. I didn't mean to come across as 'asinine' or saying something negative. I hope you will see that now. Please believe me. You have my sincere apologies.
@@GregProbert1971 extra mics didn’t really cost that much to rent back then because as a musician I have rented p.a.equipment many times. However like you said budget issues could explain it but the guy introducing everyone didn’t seem experienced at all to me. He was holding the mic wrong where it could feedback and sound distorted but I am glad they put it together.
I'm really shocked to learn the truth about Bob Wall because he has really praised Bruce in recent years. I don't understand why Bruce was pissed with Bob regarding the glass incident because he allegedly asked Bob to come at him as fast as he could, so with no disrespect to Bruce, he obviously wasnt always lightening quick to have been caught. Bless John Saxon, he's so poorly now, he was so handsome.
Random Rambler Bruce did as planned, intercepted the broken bottle with a kick , but Bob did not let it go as instructed. And Bruce accidentally jammed his fist into the sharp jagged weapon as he turned to deliver a kick .This could have severely severed tendons and arteries handicaping the star of film possibly forever ,all because an avoidable mistake.
I went to one of these conventions around the same time at the same place organized by the same people I think and met Taky Kimura & his son at that one & still have the photographs & autograph from the day. I also went to another one at the Hyatt hotel where Shannon was attending, which I am a bit gutted about, as I was the only person in the room who didn't get to meet her after the talk, as I kept on having panic attacks at the time & kept on freaking out everytime I got in the queue to meet her, which is a real bummer now, when I think about it. I did manage to get a signed photo of her though, which I must have picked up from the merchandise store. I also have a recording somewhere of the Taky Kimura convention, which I am hoping to upload at some point, although it's audio only and the sound is probably quite poor.
The Taky convention is around 1994. I think the video for it is on RUclips somewhere split into various parts. You may see yourself on there. I was there to on that day with my brother. There's a special group on Facebook with plenty of photos from that day. If you use Facebook then do a search on there for Tracking The Dragon Convention Taky Kimura and you should see it. Shannon also did a Tracking The Dragon Convention the following year in 1995 and at the same hotel in London, The Hotel Ibis near Euston station.
@@GregProbert1971 Cheers mate & I will have a look and see what I can find yeah & I am hoping that one of these days I will get another opportunity to meet Shannon as I should have done.
Amazing footage.... wish I had been there in person! Would have really enjoyed meeting Bob Baker and Howard Williams to discuss their views on WC and JKD. Still looking for their autographs too after all these years, and I can’t find them unfortunately.
This is the first time I’ve heard that Bob Wall was such an enemy of Bruce Lee. Good to know the truth, cause people do hide the truth to make themselves look good. This guy Tan is a New Yorker, and these people are very straight forward in their opinions.
Bob Wall has been quoted saying negative things about Bruce right after his death. I remember the 1992 Penthouse magazine article on Bob Wall interview. He has changed his attitude towards Bruce the last 10-15 years to his benefit I’m sure. I’m glad George shared his experience with Bob Wall. I’m know Bob is respected as a USA martial arts pioneer, but just wished he stayed consistent with his stories.
He didn't really care for Bruce Lee , only for publicity reasons did he speak good of Bruce Lee, he really wanted to believe he could beat Bruce even if it was only in his dreams.
@@moneystewart5257 Big guys don't like admitting little guys can beat them. Even though Bruce beat Bob in sparring I'm sure Bob thought if he fought Lee enough he might get a lucky punch one day. Bruce was so thin at the end and sick that Bob might have thought that was his best chance. But Bob never dared publicly say anything negative publicly when Lee was alive. So I think Bob has come to his senses and won't talk negatively now through jealousy even if he gets urge to
@1:15:45 Yes Derek Jones was definitely at the Birmingham one. Video quality/spotlight make him look like a teenager ;) that's his voice alright. I was a new student of Derek at the time. I went to the London one, some of Derek students went there(London)too. I remember him talking about it afterward about Bruce Lee & Bob Baker. He was a fan of Cynthia Rothrock at the time, if I remember correctly.
@@irened. Greetings. ...and who? Bob Wall. Feud ? Not really. More like Hypocrisy in the classic sense of that word. When Lee died and Enter went through the roof, the gravy praise train ran for decades making many people wealthy but not the way Wall and Kelly felt they should have. Now Bruce wasn't great. He was fast but he couldn't block my techniques. The corrosion had started . Kelly and Wall are both noted for disparaging remarks all of a sudden from the man who put them in the movies. I was present at least one of those times for each one so thats why George Tan is not exaggerating.
@@shihanUKS Ah ok. Thanks for explaining it. I'm sorry which one are you in the film? (I only watched it first time a couple days ago, for John Saxon) XD Oh and I also only watched John Saxon in the video above. (I think that was the first karate film I ever watched)
@@irened. Thats historic...ETD being your first karate film. What a tough act to follow for the entire genre. i remember the fire dept. at the theater back in 73. They were concerned about capacity violations, people standing shoulder to shoulder in the isles, squeezing the fire exits , sitting on stairs and armrests in the balcony watching that movie. I was not present at this interview. I met Kelly backstage at a show in Chicago. He only chatted with me because I memorized his biography so I could ask the most informed questions about "him" . He side stepped a lot of questions about Lee and dodged ETD questions when he could. He wasn't rude. Just kind of removed. Thats when he said Lee was "pretty fast" but couldn't block his backfist. Thats reasonable. But it got worse. His attitude made him lose points. Wall was a friend of my instructor so I met him more than once when he was in town. He always referred to Lee as "kid". The Kid. I showed the kid this and that. I could take all his shots so he was not that tough to me". Maybe so on a good day. Then he got worse. Quite fragile and so unnecessary given their resume.
@@shandawilliams4069 Mrs Williams, How are you doing? It's a great pleasure to hear from you. My name's Tony. Your father was a great and wonderful man. Unfortunatelly today there are no instructors like him. Take care, Tony
@@antoniosaxon8605 Hi Antonio. I'm Antonio too from Italy. I can send you an Italian interview from Rai Tv to your father. It was completely in Italian language. Good luck. Ciao. Antonio ruclips.net/video/qQvAfd2dJjQ/видео.html ruclips.net/video/AHOyvIpdoHk/видео.html
@@tonyraven4062 Yes I would like that please. Thank you my email is shandawilliams151@gmail.com You can and any pics articles or links you have of my dad. Thank you so much!!
1990 Or THE 21 CENTURY , BRUCE LEE CAN, NOT , BE FORGOTTEN .!!!! . SHOULD BE A , REQUIREMENT , IN GYM CLASS .!!!!!! .SO STUDENTS COULD LEARN TO DEFEND , THEMSELVES .!!!!! .😎👍📚📖📚😎🧠....👍..NOW THATS, AN EDUCTION .!!!!! . AND MAYBE , SAVE LIVES .???? .👍.. 😎🙏🏾😎....
2/14/2019 and I'm just seeing this for the first time ! You Tube you should be ashamed of yourself , because this has a post date as far back as 4 m/2015y.
George Tan was dead on in his descriptions of the martial arts climate with the names mentioned. He hit it on the head with Wall and Kelly. You get older and you change your tune because they didn't realize these documentaries became a gravy train because they kept getting made so why not speak well of the "myth" for profit? Ed Parker on down, when Bruce was struggling, they felt above him. When he broke the gauntlet with the movies, they saw more green being associated with him than feeling green towards him. And Lee knew it the whole time. Tan was correct.
I've got a video of Bob Wall and Joe Lewis sat together talking about Bruce. They are looking at photos of Bruce and Wall sparring on the set of Enter and they are really down grading Bruce saying how bad his form was, his arms are in the wrong place and Bob Wall was saying how easy it was to defend against Bruce. It's some pretty down playing things about him. I could upload it but the picture quality is terrible and keeps cutting off. I will find it and have another look at it, see if it's worth up loading. Thanks for your comment and watching the video 👍
@@GregProbert1971 ...absolutely and I did see that video and was depressed by it. I was ashamed of Wall. I know Wall and his wife personally. I met Kelly back in the seventies and Lewis at a function in the early nineties. And during those times , none of them could give me a straight answer about Lee without including themselves in comparison somewhere in the answer. Wall referred to Lee as a "kid", always a kid. Kelly would change the subject and Lewis said the one inch punch didn't exist, just a gimmick. The hypocrisy of it all...sellouts.
@@shihanUKS If you watch the London convention I uploaded all mention of Jim Kelly was cut out. I was there that day and clearly remember Tan stating Jim Kelly hair is completely gray now and he was a tennis coach along with all the same remarks about his attitude towards Bruce. In this Birmingham convention video when he mentions Kelly they have left the bulk of Tans remarks about Jim Kelly in but at one point when it cuts to the audience the audio is silenced for a few seconds and cuts back in to what Tan is saying about him. Three years after these conventions in 1993, Jim Kelly was the star guest ( along with ETD producer Paul Heller ). Did Shaolin Video edit Tans remarks about Kelly because they wanted Jim Kelly as a future guest? I attended that convention and Jim Kelly had nothing but praise for Bruce which lead me to think Tans words 3 years earlier were bullshit. Probably not and Jim Kelly wasn't doing his "I'm better than Bruce" act because he was on stage at a Bruce Lee convention and not a Jim Kelly convention. I really dislike Bob Wall. He's still selling " genuine Karate gi's from the Enter The Dragon set" for something like $30'000 each. There's an interview with him where he states the locker room fight in the 1978 Game of Death was filmed in 1972 with him and Bruce. He's beyond a joke! Thanks for your comments, you have some interesting things to say 👍
@@GregProbert1971 Id sure like to know what Tan said in the missing Kelly comment audio. Whatever happened to Tan anyway? He was supposed to be working on a book series called " Tracking the Dragon" back in the nineties. Nothing after that until this convention upload. Kelly was a guest at a show my instructor hosted. He had just done the"Three the Hard Way" movie. He shared a dressing room with Ron Van Clief and didn't like it. He barely spoke to van clief whose a nice guy. Some black belts present wanted to spar Kelly backstage. He said pay him three thousand for three minutes. One guy called his wife. She went to the bank, pulled it, and returned with cash. He later said his contract didn't allow matches while promoting films. He said Lee was pretty fast but couldn't block his punches especially his back fist strike. He frowned on discussing Enter the Dragon. He said it was a racist experience, his scenes shot at the last minute , his fights rushed, the extras calling him " red nigger" in chinese, his dialogue changed daily by Saxon's wife who rewrote his lines, and he wasn't supposed to die in the movie anyway. Bruce let him stage his own fights as a favor but didn't say anything about the acid pool death scene which he hated. He didn't want the close up of his face. They wanted it a lot bloodier. He was not a gracious person then.
@@GregProbert1971 Before I forget. What was up with the audience energy ? They seemed awfully about asking questions. I found Bob Baker disappointing. He could have said much about The chinese connection but he seemed disconnected.
Wow Wow amazing revelations, one blew me away though, and the offensive Jim Kelly put in his place and ostracised by all present.What comes around goes around. For me what was GROUNDBREAKING WAS THE Truthful collected response to several questions specifically when H .Williams is asked on a different video" the intercepting fist ",about the decline in talent, power ,enthusiasm of subsequent JKD followers who set out to teach JKD, ..He is asked who currently has a significant amount of speed and power from the first generation JKD students and can demonstrate it.. He said " there is only one person " ,Bob Baker .Peace.
I wouldn't have thought so as this is from 1990. Saying that though, I have seen a documentary which showed just a few minutes of this convention in it so it could be that?
bob wall and chuck norris sings bruces praises these days but back in the late 70 - late 80s after Bruces death they at first told people oh yeah i would have beaten Bruce, chuck even in an interview early 80,s he brags oh bruce and i never sparred i mean come on a was the world champ and a pro fighter" such arrogance on the man, several other witnesses say bruce and chuck did spar whilst training and chuck got his ass handed to him.
And in recent videos, both chuck and joe lewis finally admitted they sparred with Bruce. In one of the interviews, Joe Lewis even admitted to getting nailed by Bruce and that Bruce hit extremely hard, like a heavyweight
Judging by an interview I saw of him last year, I don't think he's in the best of health. His wife was answering questions for him when he was asked about Bruce Lee. Judging by that, I think he's got dementia.
@@rancedavis5106 George has a journalist background who ventured to write a multi volume book series covering behind the scenes of each of his films. He stayed in Hong Kong for a long time and had access to footage and information the industry had put away. His responses in this interview were straight from the hip as well as his manuscripts did. If he got published or not I don't know. But he did good work and his comments here were accurate.
Bob Baker was working for master Bruce Lee but he was hired by Raymond Chow to be with master Bruce Lee,, like a security guard,, however he became close to master Bruce Lee and he knew what they did to master Bruce Lee, and he did not wanted to work for Raymond Chow no more he left after master Bruce Lee was murder,, they have rumors about that he left and he went to ask for a lound of money to ask mis Linda Lee and mis Linda Lee gave it to him and that he never came back,, but I don't believe that unless mis Linda Lee Caldwell will say it her self,, people talk about only what they hear with out knowing the truth,, and he seem to be a very nice person God bless him master Bruce Lee you're the best.
The photos of them together in Hong Kong (apart from the filming of Fist of Fury) were the times Bob came to visit Bruce and give him his cocaine and other drugs. Other times Bob mailed them to him hidden in boxes containing clothes and other things. I've never seen any evidence to suggest he was hired by Raymond Chow to be with Bruce whats so ever.
@@GregProbert1971 that's not true,, master Bruce Lee had never used any kind of drugs,,who ever told you that he or she didn't not like master Bruce Lee okay,, Raymond Chow and the ones that murder him had talked so much Kroc,, and speculations and sinuations unbelievable
He reached levels people would loved to. He is what people aspire to. People will talk about him whether you hate him or love him. Yes, many hate him because of jealousy of how good he was and will talk about him
R.I.P. Howard Williams ❤🙏 ( stayed Loyal to Lee's Artform to the very End )
Well we all now know much more about Bruce's relationship with Bob outwith their love of martial arts
Interesting to watch and listen too after the revelation of Bruce and Bobs letters.
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I attended this in London - still remains one of the greatest days of my life! Thank you ❤️
MiaCat Adventures I was there to in London at the Hotel Ibis. I was a very young 19 year old. Thanks for watching. Appreciated.
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yep i was there , great day that was
Jim Kelly never said anything negative about Bruce and he also thought that Bruce was "untouchable" in his skill level .....so maybe he just rubbed this guy the wrong way or just didn't like him. The way this guy is bashing him here sounds personal.
That's most important convention for who want to becoming or was already been a Bruce Lee`s fan !
I was there.....Amazing day
I can't believe this is on you tube I thought it was lost in time, i was a young 16 year old and a huge Bruce fan, remember being a bit star struck when meeting bob baker, still got all their autographs, remember asking a question but should of asked more but was only young lol..... and I can see myself in the video with all my hair which I haven't got anymore 😁
You were lucky! Wish I was there
Yes i was lucky, Well you can still meet Bruce lee co actors im sure.. unfortunately I think Robert baker is no longer with us but john saxon robert baker they are nice people.
Saxon not doing so well these days , Alzheimer :(
@@postersandstuff :(
@@richardmail8494 Sad... time waits for no man
I was at this and the 1979 and 80 conventions Dan inosanto was warming up for a demonstration and handed me Bruce lees nunchaku to see what I could do.Great day with all my friends most of them I still see today.
THIS IS BLOODY BRILLIANT. THANK YOU
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wow this is a very enlightening about Bruce lee's life and I never seen it Robert Baker,John Saxon.
thanks for keeping memory of bruce lee alive and sharing info on other characters.
Thanks for watching and leaving a comment.
this was such a blessing to me, one because i love bruce, two because i love the marsjall arts and last but not least i fuond out by dna testing that i am also chinese, very proud!
Bob Wall got very upset. It seems everybody that knew Bruce loved him. He was a living icon at just 32.
ChrisMisc1 That's Bob Baker
Antonio saxon So sorry for your loss. Your father left a great legacy professionally and personally!
@@antoniosaxon8605 So sori for the loss of your father. He was one of my favourite actors and I remember he was also on Nightmare on Elm st. I hope you have fantastic memories of him, he was very photogenic.
Man i thought i would never see this. After the letters that broke out at the Heritage auction last week, its a revelation hearing the real Bob Baker talk. RIP to him..
It's Bob Bakers only interview. Just wish he had spoken more. There is another video of the previous day's convention in London but he more or less says the same things with a few added details here and there which could be different. Thanks for watching and leaving a comment 👍
This was great! Thanks for posting. You can sense a true understanding of the real meaning of martial arts in all of the guest speakers, especially Bruce's student. John Saxon was impressive and very sincere.
Wow, the first speaker said what everyone knew. Jim Kelly and others later came around.
I appreciate William's testimony concerning Bruce, but from what
I gleaned over the years, Bruce DID, in fact, possess Natural speed.
But he continued to work at it, which is why he was so difficult to
deal with in sparring match-ups!
Yes Bruce was blessed with natural speed and worked extremely hard at improving it.
This is an amazing upload & one I wish I had seen sooner. Very insightful & only 17 years after Bruce had passed. Thank you for uploading :-)
@@antoniosaxon8605 Such an honour to have you, John Saxons son, leave a comment. Your father was an inspiring and charasmatic man. I hope people get in touch with you regards your question. Best wishes to you and your family. Thank you and take care. H
Must be surreal to Bob Baker sitting next to John and knowing about the cocaine he sold to Bruce...
Vow I'm glad to see this
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Awesome video, this are true martial artist,not the kind we see on TV today.
Depends on who you are talking about.
But Yes. In part I totally agree.
Great upload! Why did it take me this long to see this!😀
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Me too
When the mind is free, it can create...Bruce Lee.
EXELENT AMAZING MR JOHN SAXON AND BOB BAKER GREAT PEOPLE ACTORS .
This was great thanks for uploading this.
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Bruce said you would have to kill him in a real fight...Thats why he dint do trophy fights...
when did he say that
@@kyleday5026 checkout Bruce in his own words. A mini documentary. He states this in an audio recording from an interview with Ted Thomas in Hong Kong
Bs
Interesting that George talked of Shih Kien being on his last legs, and that he probably wouldn't be around much longer. He actually lived another 19 years after this program, passing away at age 96. Bob Baker would unfortunately die just a few years after this interview, in his early 50s; and Howard Williams would go on another 12 years, passing in 2012. If I had attended this event, I would have probably bored everyone stiff asking JKD questions of Howard Williams, lol
Tommy always spoke very highly of Howard Williams .....Of his extraordinary power & how he understood economy & the direction Bruce was taking JKD....Seemed a nice guy too....He was just a young man when he trained with Bruce.
I wish the crowd had more energy considering the gravity of experience on the stage.
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Thanks Greg for posting this...
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I love❤️Bruce Lee. 李小龍🐉🐲ブルースリー🐉🐲李振藩🐲🐉Enter The Dragon👍Very nice movie.👍
Thank you for posting this!!
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Hi Greg, greetings from Germany capital City Berlin. And thank you so much for posting this Video!
I would have gone there with a Bruce Lee outfit.
I would have gone there with a T-Shirt: "KISS ME, 🥰JOHN SAXON!" 🥰 plastered across my DDD's.
Many thanks Greg for uploading this video. It’s a great piece of history to watch and the likes of it, will in all probability, never happen again. Did you get the chance to speak to George Tan, Howard Williams or John Saxon on the day? Can you share any other interesting information about that day?
hutchy1111 I attended the London one. I was too shy to ask any questions myself.
I attended this convention can't see myself on the video tho. got all autographs but no pics at this 1.
actually just watched it again and I am on it. as we all enter the venue at the start there is a fleeting glimpse of me and I wave 2 the camera.
@@johndennison8105 You are very lucky but... didn't anyone bother to ask John Saxon oh I dunno... ABOUT HIMSELF??!?! And his career?!?! :'(
@@antoniosaxon8605 Thank you for taking the time to share about your father, Antonio. Glad to hear he was as wonderful as he comes across at conventions. I wish I had what you're requesting. I hope someone will come through for you. Question: was your father born in 1936, as IMDb claims? Or 1935 as fans are saying? Please take care of yourself.
@@antoniosaxon8605 Sorry sir. I am at a loss. I apologize if there is any misunderstanding.I am a fan of your father and I am on your side. Please kindly re-read. Anything that offended you has to be a misunderstanding. Which "asinine" comment? I have posted nothing but praise towards your father. I was just now responding to someone else trying to understand him. Again, very sorry for any confusion. I am saddened to have caused you grief. Not my intention. Please believe me. Peace.
@@antoniosaxon8605 Oh I think I understand. This is what happened: I did not know this was a convention about Bruce Lee. I watched this video after watching many and everyone was asking your father about "Bruce Lee'. I kept thinking "why aren't they asking about him" (which is my interest, not Bruce Lee) and someone explained to me that it was a B.L. convention. I know your father is very well-loved. I am sorry to have caused you upset. I didn't mean to come across as 'asinine' or saying something negative. I hope you will see that now. Please believe me. You have my sincere apologies.
I was there with my sifu Dave Carnell and my wife Cherry.
Thank you for uploading this. Very interesting
Great event but only one mic for everyone? No table mics? Still great to watch.
I think their budget probably didn't stretch far enough to afford multiple mics 😆
@@GregProbert1971 extra mics didn’t really cost that much to rent back then because as a musician I have rented p.a.equipment many times. However like you said budget issues could explain it but the guy introducing everyone didn’t seem experienced at all to me. He was holding the mic wrong where it could feedback and sound distorted but I am glad they put it together.
Ty
I'm really shocked to learn the truth about Bob Wall because he has really praised Bruce in recent years. I don't understand why Bruce was pissed with Bob regarding the glass incident because he allegedly asked Bob to come at him as fast as he could, so with no disrespect to Bruce, he obviously wasnt always lightening quick to have been caught. Bless John Saxon, he's so poorly now, he was so handsome.
Get the story straight - Bob did not drop the bottle when he was supposed to
Random Rambler Bruce did as planned, intercepted the broken bottle with a kick , but Bob did not let it go as instructed. And Bruce accidentally jammed his fist into the sharp jagged weapon as he turned to deliver a kick .This could have severely severed tendons and arteries handicaping the star of film possibly forever ,all because an avoidable mistake.
@@curtisgaither3625 yeah he should have kicked furry faced bobs ass for that.
Well...Bob was Murphy's law that day.
Watch Paul Hellor describe Bob Wall, he wasn't a nice man.
I went to one of these conventions around the same time at the same place organized by the same people I think and met Taky Kimura & his son at that one & still have the photographs & autograph from the day. I also went to another one at the Hyatt hotel where Shannon was attending, which I am a bit gutted about, as I was the only person in the room who didn't get to meet her after the talk, as I kept on having panic attacks at the time & kept on freaking out everytime I got in the queue to meet her, which is a real bummer now, when I think about it. I did manage to get a signed photo of her though, which I must have picked up from the merchandise store. I also have a recording somewhere of the Taky Kimura convention, which I am hoping to upload at some point, although it's audio only and the sound is probably quite poor.
The Taky convention is around 1994. I think the video for it is on RUclips somewhere split into various parts. You may see yourself on there. I was there to on that day with my brother. There's a special group on Facebook with plenty of photos from that day. If you use Facebook then do a search on there for Tracking The Dragon Convention Taky Kimura and you should see it. Shannon also did a Tracking The Dragon Convention the following year in 1995 and at the same hotel in London, The Hotel Ibis near Euston station.
@@GregProbert1971 Cheers mate & I will have a look and see what I can find yeah & I am hoping that one of these days I will get another opportunity to meet Shannon as I should have done.
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Amazing footage.... wish I had been there in person! Would have really enjoyed meeting Bob Baker and Howard Williams to discuss their views on WC and JKD. Still looking for their autographs too after all these years, and I can’t find them unfortunately.
I'm sure George Tan has plenty of fake ones to sell you...
This is the first time I’ve heard that Bob Wall was such an enemy of Bruce Lee. Good to know the truth, cause people do hide the truth to make themselves look good. This guy Tan is a New Yorker, and these people are very straight forward in their opinions.
Bob Baker !! 😉
Bob Wall has been quoted saying negative things about Bruce right after his death. I remember the 1992 Penthouse magazine article on Bob Wall interview. He has changed his attitude towards Bruce the last 10-15 years to his benefit I’m sure. I’m glad George shared his experience with Bob Wall. I’m know Bob is respected as a USA martial arts pioneer, but just wished he stayed consistent with his stories.
He didn't really care for Bruce Lee , only for publicity reasons did he speak good of Bruce Lee, he really wanted to believe he could beat Bruce even if it was only in his dreams.
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Big guys don't like admitting little guys can beat them. Even though Bruce beat Bob in sparring I'm sure Bob thought if he fought Lee enough he might get a lucky punch one day.
Bruce was so thin at the end and sick that Bob might have thought that was his best chance. But Bob never dared publicly say anything negative publicly when Lee was alive. So I think Bob has come to his senses and won't talk negatively now through jealousy even if he gets urge to
Don't like Bob he is a liar and wasn't even worthy of tying bruce Lee shoe strings all of those guys were and are just jealous of dragon
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A great piece of history loved it, and is that the late Derek Jones getting an autograph?
@1:15:45 Yes Derek Jones was definitely at the Birmingham one. Video quality/spotlight make him look like a teenager ;) that's his voice alright.
I was a new student of Derek at the time. I went to the London one, some of Derek students went there(London)too.
I remember him talking about it afterward about Bruce Lee & Bob Baker. He was a fan of Cynthia Rothrock at the time, if I remember correctly.
Bit weird seeing Kelly and Wall interviews previously then seeing this! Kinda contradictory!
I would congratulate George Tan on telling the truth about those two. He was right. I knew Kelly and know Wall personally. Tan wasn't lying.
@@shihanUKS What are you both talking about?? Some kind of feud between Jim Kelly and who? (Dunno that other name).
@@irened. Greetings. ...and who? Bob Wall. Feud ? Not really. More like Hypocrisy in the classic sense of that word. When Lee died and Enter went through the roof, the gravy praise train ran for decades making many people wealthy but not the way Wall and Kelly felt they should have. Now Bruce wasn't great. He was fast but he couldn't block my techniques. The corrosion had started . Kelly and Wall are both noted for disparaging remarks all of a sudden from the man who put them in the movies. I was present at least one of those times for each one so thats why George Tan is not exaggerating.
@@shihanUKS Ah ok. Thanks for explaining it. I'm sorry which one are you in the film? (I only watched it first time a couple days ago, for John Saxon) XD Oh and I also only watched John Saxon in the video above. (I think that was the first karate film I ever watched)
@@irened. Thats historic...ETD being your first karate film. What a tough act to follow for the entire genre. i remember the fire dept. at the theater back in 73. They were concerned about capacity violations, people standing shoulder to shoulder in the isles, squeezing the fire exits , sitting on stairs and armrests in the balcony watching that movie. I was not present at this interview. I met Kelly backstage at a show in Chicago. He only chatted with me because I memorized his biography so I could ask the most informed questions about "him" . He side stepped a lot of questions about Lee and dodged ETD questions when he could. He wasn't rude. Just kind of removed. Thats when he said Lee was "pretty fast" but couldn't block his backfist. Thats reasonable. But it got worse. His attitude made him lose points. Wall was a friend of my instructor so I met him more than once when he was in town. He always referred to Lee as "kid". The Kid. I showed the kid this and that. I could take all his shots so he was not that tough to me". Maybe so on a good day. Then he got worse. Quite fragile and so unnecessary given their resume.
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I was at the one in ibis hotel London same year George tan was a bell end.
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2/14/2019 and I'm just seeing this for the first time ! You Tube you should be ashamed of yourself , because this has a post date as far back as 4 m/2015y.
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George Tan was dead on in his descriptions of the martial arts climate with the names mentioned. He hit it on the head with Wall and Kelly. You get older and you change your tune because they didn't realize these documentaries became a gravy train because they kept getting made so why not speak well of the "myth" for profit? Ed Parker on down, when Bruce was struggling, they felt above him. When he broke the gauntlet with the movies, they saw more green being associated with him than feeling green towards him. And Lee knew it the whole time. Tan was correct.
I've got a video of Bob Wall and Joe Lewis sat together talking about Bruce. They are looking at photos of Bruce and Wall sparring on the set of Enter and they are really down grading Bruce saying how bad his form was, his arms are in the wrong place and Bob Wall was saying how easy it was to defend against Bruce. It's some pretty down playing things about him. I could upload it but the picture quality is terrible and keeps cutting off. I will find it and have another look at it, see if it's worth up loading. Thanks for your comment and watching the video 👍
@@GregProbert1971 ...absolutely and I did see that video and was depressed by it. I was ashamed of Wall. I know Wall and his wife personally. I met Kelly back in the seventies and Lewis at a function in the early nineties. And during those times , none of them could give me a straight answer about Lee without including themselves in comparison somewhere in the answer. Wall referred to Lee as a "kid", always a kid. Kelly would change the subject and Lewis said the one inch punch didn't exist, just a gimmick. The hypocrisy of it all...sellouts.
@@shihanUKS If you watch the London convention I uploaded all mention of Jim Kelly was cut out. I was there that day and clearly remember Tan stating Jim Kelly hair is completely gray now and he was a tennis coach along with all the same remarks about his attitude towards Bruce. In this Birmingham convention video when he mentions Kelly they have left the bulk of Tans remarks about Jim Kelly in but at one point when it cuts to the audience the audio is silenced for a few seconds and cuts back in to what Tan is saying about him. Three years after these conventions in 1993, Jim Kelly was the star guest ( along with ETD producer Paul Heller ). Did Shaolin Video edit Tans remarks about Kelly because they wanted Jim Kelly as a future guest? I attended that convention and Jim Kelly had nothing but praise for Bruce which lead me to think Tans words 3 years earlier were bullshit. Probably not and Jim Kelly wasn't doing his "I'm better than Bruce" act because he was on stage at a Bruce Lee convention and not a Jim Kelly convention.
I really dislike Bob Wall. He's still selling " genuine Karate gi's from the Enter The Dragon set" for something like $30'000 each. There's an interview with him where he states the locker room fight in the 1978 Game of Death was filmed in 1972 with him and Bruce. He's beyond a joke!
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@@GregProbert1971 Id sure like to know what Tan said in the missing Kelly comment audio. Whatever happened to Tan anyway? He was supposed to be working on a book series called " Tracking the Dragon" back in the nineties. Nothing after that until this convention upload. Kelly was a guest at a show my instructor hosted. He had just done the"Three the Hard Way" movie. He shared a dressing room with Ron Van Clief and didn't like it. He barely spoke to van clief whose a nice guy. Some black belts present wanted to spar Kelly backstage. He said pay him three thousand for three minutes. One guy called his wife. She went to the bank, pulled it, and returned with cash. He later said his contract didn't allow matches while promoting films. He said Lee was pretty fast but couldn't block his punches especially his back fist strike. He frowned on discussing Enter the Dragon. He said it was a racist experience, his scenes shot at the last minute , his fights rushed, the extras calling him " red nigger" in chinese, his dialogue changed daily by Saxon's wife who rewrote his lines, and he wasn't supposed to die in the movie anyway. Bruce let him stage his own fights as a favor but didn't say anything about the acid pool death scene which he hated. He didn't want the close up of his face. They wanted it a lot bloodier. He was not a gracious person then.
@@GregProbert1971 Before I forget. What was up with the audience energy ? They seemed awfully about asking questions. I found Bob Baker disappointing. He could have said much about The chinese connection but he seemed disconnected.
Wow Wow amazing revelations, one blew me away though, and the offensive Jim Kelly put in his place and ostracised by all present.What comes around goes around. For me what was GROUNDBREAKING WAS THE Truthful collected response to several questions specifically
when H .Williams is asked on a different video" the intercepting fist ",about the decline in talent, power ,enthusiasm of subsequent JKD followers who set out to teach JKD, ..He is asked who currently has a significant amount of speed and power from the first generation JKD students and can demonstrate it.. He said " there is only one person " ,Bob Baker .Peace.
Dan Inosanto is the best teacher of JKD and is more deadly today than ever before.
@@kungfew1396 no man in his 80s is more deadlier than when he was in his prime
Was Chris Alexis at this event?
Is this the one that's listed under Way Of The Little Dragon (1997) on IMDB?
I wouldn't have thought so as this is from 1990. Saying that though, I have seen a documentary which showed just a few minutes of this convention in it so it could be that?
@@GregProbert1971 so I finally saw Way Of The Little Dragon and they use footage of Saxon and Baker from this in it.
Interesting
Sadly Bob died 2 years after this.
He means Bob Baker, not Bob Wall.
Why wasn’t Jesse glover there?
bob wall and chuck norris sings bruces praises these days but back in the late 70 - late 80s after Bruces death they at first told people oh yeah i would have beaten Bruce, chuck even in an interview early 80,s he brags oh bruce and i never sparred i mean come on a was the world champ and a pro fighter" such arrogance on the man, several other witnesses say bruce and chuck did spar whilst training and chuck got his ass handed to him.
And in recent videos, both chuck and joe lewis finally admitted they sparred with Bruce. In one of the interviews, Joe Lewis even admitted to getting nailed by Bruce and that Bruce hit extremely hard, like a heavyweight
@@alexchen5811 absolute. alex
Michael Chan did not dare to challenge Lee , if this doesnt convince people Lee was real deal then i dont know what it takes !
BOB WALL AND CHUCK NORRIS NEVER SAID/MENTIONED THAT THEY COULD KICK BRUCE LEE'S BUT,PERIOD!
But they were obviously jealous of Lee as was Ji Han Jae and Ing Sik
What is John Saxon doing nowadays?
Judging by an interview I saw of him last year, I don't think he's in the best of health. His wife was answering questions for him when he was asked about Bruce Lee. Judging by that, I think he's got dementia.
@@antoniosaxon8605 Its our great pleasure to mention about him & an honour to know your good self too. What a surprise.
He's buried close to Bruce 😢
Guys back then aged double speed
Who is George Tan?
i have that same question ? who is the guy ? he looked too young to have had any direct contact of bruce ?
@@rancedavis5106 George has a journalist background who ventured to write a multi volume book series covering behind the scenes of each of his films. He stayed in Hong Kong for a long time and had access to footage and information the industry had put away. His responses in this interview were straight from the hip as well as his manuscripts did. If he got published or not I don't know. But he did good work and his comments here were accurate.
Bob Baker was working for master Bruce Lee but he was hired by Raymond Chow to be with master Bruce Lee,, like a security guard,, however he became close to master Bruce Lee and he knew what they did to master Bruce Lee, and he did not wanted to work for Raymond Chow no more he left after master Bruce Lee was murder,, they have rumors about that he left and he went to ask for a lound of money to ask mis Linda Lee and mis Linda Lee gave it to him and that he never came back,, but I don't believe that unless mis Linda Lee Caldwell will say it her self,, people talk about only what they hear with out knowing the truth,, and he seem to be a very nice person God bless him master Bruce Lee you're the best.
The photos of them together in Hong Kong (apart from the filming of Fist of Fury) were the times Bob came to visit Bruce and give him his cocaine and other drugs. Other times Bob mailed them to him hidden in boxes containing clothes and other things. I've never seen any evidence to suggest he was hired by Raymond Chow to be with Bruce whats so ever.
@@GregProbert1971 that's not true,, master Bruce Lee had never used any kind of drugs,,who ever told you that he or she didn't not like master Bruce Lee okay,, Raymond Chow and the ones that murder him had talked so much Kroc,, and speculations and sinuations unbelievable
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Why is anyone wearing a sweater in July?
It was December 2nd 1990.
1:15:44. me in my cardy
Please leave Bruce Lee alone, the man is dead.
When you are a legend,and you are the best ever your name lives on forever, They are just praising
He reached levels people would loved to. He is what people aspire to. People will talk about him whether you hate him or love him. Yes, many hate him because of jealousy of how good he was and will talk about him