World of Warships- Hey WG, You Forgot About This
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- Опубликовано: 21 окт 2024
- Well guys, today we discuss the prospect of cross server capabilities and WG's 2 year silence on it, enjoy!
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To the best of my knowledge there is no cross-server MM going on in Clan Battles. WG tried it once and it was a dismal failure. I believe the overwhelming issue was time. Five hours from New York to London and the further East and West you travel the greater the time difference. Plus, as you stated, ping and lag. There is a lot of discussion on this topic on Reddit going back years.
Seeing the amount of player now worldwide, a cross region is unavoidable. Even getting into operation takes 1-2 minute
I would actually love this, so night playtime in the server I'm playing in (SEA) will be not like almost a ghost town.
based in europe, where we have 19k / 25k players daily on peak time if not more. I would not like a 200 ping US / Asian game... xD
Ping in this game doesn't matter that much. The tick rate is already pretty slow in the first place anyway
Hehe be me playing from asia to eu
I live in the Uk and have an account in asia server, with a decent internet connection I don't think you can tell a difference. And 200 ping is not true
I have an EU account playing from NA, the ping is anywhere from 60-100, with the average being far closer to 70-ish. I've had worse ping in the past connecting to NA servers just because my internet was shit back then. So unless your ISP is absolute trash tier, you should be more than fine connecting to NA, can't imagine Asia is that much worse. The internet infrastructure isn't as bad today as it was 15 years ago.
Sure I don't get my 30-40 ping that I get connecting to my NA account, but gonna be real, I wouldn't even have noticed the 60-100 ping if I didn't have the FPS/Ping readouts in the upper left at all times.
Just a small reminder theyjust had a CC summit... they might have talked about cross servers matchmaking and other things during it....
Mech Warrior Online does this and it works pretty well and they do let you decide which server you want to connect to for games or not. Figuring WG hasn't done this yet with WoT shows you that they will never do it until its so dire.
There is a lot of magical thinking required to get from current tech, where delays are an immutable fact for long distance comms over the Internet, to "WG forgot they could just make this one simple change."
But where are the servers located??? Once again, one's ping is a real disadvantage.
My experience might be biased because I play on SEA, but I have always felt that the test server was pretty yolo, way more than I'd see on the matches on your channel for example. Also the fact that Schlieffen pick rate has consistently been approximately 10 ties higher than on the regular server, which I'll be the first to admit I am very guilty of because it just works great on bots and getting the missions done
Well, they announced in an article yesterday that they’re starting to implement account consolidation. Letting players with multiple accounts across servers sign in using the credentials for just one account
WeeGee thing has always been that they do regional servers because other areas may have potato computers. Or at least that used to be what they would say.
Instead of adding crazy Star Trek "Specials,or japanese Animes with extra anoing voiceover,wich has nothing to do with a WW2 naval combat game imoo,WG should give us the opportunity to compete with players all over the world, absolutely agree 👍
(That insane dev strike on the SAINT LOUIS 😂...
Awesome)
Salute from the Heart of the mountains, Austria, Europe!
Azur Lane probably does more to expose a larger and more diverse audience to historical warships than WoWS ever could hope to.
It doesn’t matter how people come to appreciate naval history - it matters that they do.
@@allanbourdius When I joined alpha testing, you wouldn't believe the amount of people who were playing AL and even more so, Kancolle.
Joining ST, weebs were the vast majority.
Those are not competing priorities. They can't just decide to spend their art budget on changing physics.
[insert beating on dead horse] They really should sort the match maker before they open the flood games to game modes across the planet. Technically speaking, it would also cause issues with patching the game, since patching of the various regions do not happen at the same time. That would need to be sorted out and that WG have enough people operations at that time to handle issues.
I dont think they have, i just had a news article telling me to make sure my accounts dont clash
Playing on the NA and EU.
The diference is that on the NA players seems to go mid and one flank, while the EU goes both flanks and a few mid.
Other than that they are similar.
Would be nice if they would merge NA and EU.
My main account is on the EU and it would be nice if i could use that account on the NA server too.
Now despite this being a good concept. But remember. How WeeGee servers behaves. Even without cross servers. We have issues like bugs that shouldn’t be happening. Lagging in some occasion. Spotting bug where it sometimes it only do Minimap spotting instead of regular spotting.
With cross servers you get another factor that pretty common in WOT. Ghost Shells.
Now on the other hand if cross servers can take place by you can hop your account to servers without losing any progress would be nice. Asia server are not very talkative and I’m too lazy to grind everything again.
It would be cool to be able to chose what server you want to play on when you sign into the game.
It's hard enough Trying to communicate with your team when they all (theoretically) speak English. this sounds like a potential goat-fk to me.
As an Aussie, I wish I could switch to the NA server, the SEA server has zero chat and team work.
i will never understand why people stay in queue for more than 1 minute, like its just asking for one of those 5v5 matches...
I don't think cross-region play would be a problem, so long as it is an optional setting for players, ie they can opt out if their connection is not good enough. My main account is EU/UK. However I also play on NA and RU on those accounts. Ping/lag are often better to NA/RU than they are to EU - probably because of the different ways traffic is routed. I've played WoT to Asia without issue as well.
Lag wise, if fighting games can manage international games.. then ships can.
It would be hilarious if the SEA server gets merged into a Global server.
If you imagine the entire population of WoWS as the contents of a barrel, SEA would be both ends of the barrel. The good players tend to be better than the other servers' good players and our worst players are worse.
Lol sure buddy
@@MarvinWestmaas SEA Shitters are a sight to behold. They're slightly more skilled than Coop bots half the time and are way worse half the time.
But regardless of how shitty they are, they still somehow know how to angle and kite away lmao.
@@misot90 So you already dropped your 'we got the best players' attitude, now you just have the best mouth breathers.
@@MarvinWestmaas You may want to re-read what I said in the first part.
"Our good players are better, but our shitty players are shittier."
@@misot90'our good players are better' is ambiguous in relation to which other players they are better. It seemed to imply SEA's 'good players' are beter as other serves good players.
Keep dreaming bud.
I would really like to see you try a few games in SEA and see how different the gameplay is. I have been playing from NA on the SEA server for a while now and yes the ping does stay around 100ms.
My concerns would be dropped connections between contents and lag (lag drives me nuts),
I never wait for more than 2 minutes to start a game.
I'm honestly not convinced WG really even cares about the player experience at this point. Really just not creating more public outrage while monetizing as much as possible.
ASW update is still "recent" and thats a result of listening to few people whining a lot... so they care to some point, though you are right that they care for monetizing more than for well being of everyone in the game.
one thing i can think of, if they do cross region, for those of use that have accounts on NA and EU, would we be able to merge accounts, or choose one and sacrifice the other? I ask, because even though I haven't played on EU in a moment, I do have an OG Belfast on that acct, and i don't on NA...
yep having to deal with the toxic 'must win or [insert foul mouth insults at team]' asia player culture is something to wish for in shared servers. base servers in america so the asia players learn something through latency and lag.
War tandoor has this one, they have servers in USA, mainland Europe, and Asia/pacific wherever that server was. I usually play in the Asia server because it has the lowest lag, but when i can't find matches esp BR 8.0 for some reason, i pick USA or Europe. But yeah, m/s numbers aren't very good and the connection is kinda wonky connecting to those servers.
It shouldn't be too much to assume that it would behave similarly, i think.
I have a NA account in Japan. Don't get to play most of the other matches
I abandoned founder account in MWO because ping to Vancouver (where servers are/were) was around 400ms. The only useful weapon I could use with that was SRM. Not a fan.
I am sure they have been doing some testing of this in operations, as some off-peak hours on both the NA and EU servers you will see large numbers of people and short waiting times for the time\day on that server.
but operations being players only on one side are much more tolerant of latency etc
.... I am sure ... that WeGreedy doesn't do server merges 'just on coop, and without notice' ... so instead, anecdotes from simps claiming 'they must have merged servers lol look how many shitters are afraid of pvp at the same time' is laughable.
God I hope they never do cross region, that would be insane. Every time someone is from another continent I can tell when I am in the same fov as that player my game suffers. I will always ask if everyone is from NA just to be sure even though I know there will be an answer no, I already knew it. As a matter of fact I want a ping kicker program built into the game not just for players away from NA that play on the server but other players whos ping is bad wherever they live. People think bad ping only affects the player who has it but actually the worse it gets the opposing players have the disadvantage in playing with that player.
Think you'll find that the CIS server, while majority asian, is the former Soviet Union there chief.
I don't see how doing this is going to increase the player base on NA server. I've seen people get upset when a spanish talking person is typing. Imagine adding in more unknown languages?
IMHO The more players the better.
I play on EU servers and got a bunch of friends playing on NA servers and cannot play with them and dont want to create an account and grind all the way when i already did that
could put a server like in Africa (somewhere remote) so all players suffer similar LAG.
armored warfare went cross server and the lag is crappy. servers is hosted in euro and it sucks. it will not be the same and once they move it there is no going back and people will stop playing because of the ping.
Well thats a tough one, having played some older games, it would seem that everything is improving, right? Therefore everything should run super smoothly, right? I mean your new PC is like a formula and shopping cart, compared to a PC you had ten years ago, not to mention anything even older... Connection seems to have also improved by a lot, it really depends but lets say ten years ago average connection promised what 50 Mb? I would say it was above average, but there were optic cables in some areas too,
nowadays the average would be what, 150Mb (feel free to substitute number that you think to be right or the one you have).
One thing is that your PC has to run the game smoothly on its own, lets say the new PC vs older game has it covered pretty well,
now does that mean that where you had ping around 60, you will now have 20 on average with 3 times faster connection?
I'm afraid all that has not improved by so much and we are not nearly ready for it, in many of your videos we can see some lags, we all have that from time to time and that is to reach our "regional" server, imagine having to reach 3 times the distance there and back, instead of lag, thats an instant disconnect I'd dare to say.
The game is not that quick action, but I fear the slight differences matter even now,
when connection decides to go wild at some point, you can experience some reversed actions, when brawling, you can wait for your last shot and when you get to that point, your shells go out, but you are already dead and only get to know it later, or you want to finish someone else and when your shell land at the target seemingly still alive, it turns to be a wreck already...
I would welcome it, if you could chose it, if your connection can take it, go ahead, switch setting to all servers, or stick to your continent only, whichever works for you.
Lag will be the issue unfortunately IMO
WG servers are not in a great condition if they implemented a cross region MM expect a High ping and more delay reg for both players aka not playable for everyone unless its ok for you to play against Laggers.
EVE Online has one server for all players (except China of course). Just saying...
Japan has it's own server sadly
Nah, I don't want 100+ ping.
Make asymmetrical battles permanent.
Unfortunately WG set this all up for a cash grab.
Want to play on a different server? Grind your life away (again) and/or pay money for stuff to catch up.
They could combine accounts and any duplicate ships would be nice to get compensation but I doubt they would want to waste time and effort on something that doesn't make them money...
Unfortunately I fear WG will just die off eventually to the next war like game that does it better...
The only reason we are still playing is because it is all we have 🙄
WGing has anew tank game coming out. They are not going anywhere.
SEA-NA server = 105 minimum ping
NA-SEA server = 115 minimum ping
SEA-EU Server= 260 minimum ping
EU-SEA server = 300 minimum ping
NA-EU server = 110 minimum ping
EU-NA server = 105 minimum ping
If anyone doesn't understand delay REG .
Those must be your pings, cause i get 35 on NA server. Not about to trade that for 100+
@@dragosthule The main point is 200 plus ping will be a issue for both players with ping like yours.
yesss i love lagging
the current maintenance to change user accounts is wg working to make cross region matchmaking a no-go.
I think you have that backwards; multiple account sync for people with accounts in multiple regions seems to me to be a prerequisite for cross-server play.
@@allanbourdius read the full article, they are creating a single sign in but you will need different email / social media for the accounts by first quarter of 2025 for accounts across regions. so your na login credentials which are currently fine for an eu account as well will no longer be fine for the eu account. ( or visa versa )
they are forcing the separation of the servers.
@@jaquigreenlees Which simply lends itself to eventual encouragement of account merging.
I did read it, and the FAQ, and came to the opposite conclusion 🤷🏼♂️
SEA server merge lol. Better to shut it down. Worse player base. Every man for himself. Nobody help no one. Campers, snipers, no capping, DD behind all the BBs and CAs. CV and hybrids rampant. Lemming train to one side of the map often. Team mates hide and dont shoot etc. List goes on. 80% blow out games. You either steam roll or you get rolled. T10 games cant even get 1 kill.......
Jeezus, imagine the backline-snipers of Asia servers getting into Europe server brawling... On top I heard that there is a lot of flaming and hate speech on the NA server...
War thunder can do it easily, so why cant WG do the same ??
I disagree. You don't want asian campers on other servers... imo 😂
no worries you wont meet asian players since they still stuck at line B / I
Do we really want to lower the standards of the game letting the Yanks on our server?😊
Buff german sec WG. Ty😊
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