I often hear "if a single 36v battery goes down, it's dead. If i have 3x 12v batteries I can swap it over to 24v" Is that practical? How many people would be able to do that on-the-fly?
@@goodmanfishing Tell yea why i did it this way....First off the Boat is by Blue Sky Boatworks , a Jackson Kayak Company...This boat is called a Tri -Cat 360 Cataram Special . And to power this boat after all my mods are done..I wanted a Twin Drive Electric Newport NK300 setup ... So now getting back to the batteries ..what i did is make each drive with two batteries so i would have 120 Amps better to have enough than not enough... This way if i do have problems, i would have the other drive , fire it up and off i go ... Nice content on the video '' thanks '' PS >> Far as i can see..Miller Tech is the way to go, they are the BEST battery you can go with...And only battery Lithium made in the USA.
Great video! One item I don't think is correct ---> 100% discharge is a half-cycle. 100% charge is another half-cycle. A cycle can be completed across multiple sessions and/or it can alternate between charge and discharge any number of increments that add up to 100% in both directions, but it must complete 100% in both directions to count as complete.
There's a lot of gray area lately because OEMs commonly publish cycle counts where they discharge to 80%, skipping the bottom 20% since it drastically improves the total. Recently, a few OEMs have been moving the goal post even further to 70% in order to make their cells seem to have superpowers. At 70%, I think most modern LiFePO4 cells can push above 10K cycles, so it's mostly a marketing game that means very little. Above 10K, they'll degrade from calendar aging before you can use every cycle anyway, so babying them w/ 70% doesn't make much sense. I wish they'd all publish both 80% and 100%, but anyone who publishes 70% is just being silly.
I took very close notice when he talked about the warranty. He said Millertech will warranty the battery no matter what goes wrong with it without pro-rating for the length of time you have owned it. I checked their website and thats not true. No matter how long you have owned the battery they have the discretion on whether or not they'll warranty it... Just saying..
I bought 312 V batteries. If one of my batteries goes out, I only have to buy one to replace it. If your battery goes out, you have to buy the equivalent of three of my batteries to replace it. I didn’t have to change chargers. You do have to change chargers with a 36 V battery. These are the reasons why I think three 12 V batteries are better than one 36 V battery.
Awesome video/videos! Please help me… I am a 2-3 times a month angler with a 2012 Ranger Reata Fish/Ski (Mercury 150 -4 stroke) …New Garmin Force trolling motor, 106 (bow) and 93 (helm) fish finders. I love the idea of the 36 volt for the trolling motor. What Lithium batteries do I need for my electronics and cranking? What on-board charger will work for all 3 if I invest in the battery from this video? THANK YOU!!!
Thanks for the comment! Unfortunately, I do not have experience with lithium cranking batteries and how they interact with the charging systems on older outboards. I know that the newer outboards will work well with a lithium. I'm not sure there is a lithium cranking solution available. That said, you are likely going to need something in the 50-100Ah battery range for the electronics, if it is a standalone battery. There's a new video on the channel to determine what size you would need! As far as chargers go, a 36v battery is going to require a divorced/1-bank charger. I am not aware of a charger that will manage multiple voltage ranges. Hopefully that helps - Michael
Got the 36v battery & onboard charger form MillerTech , battery arrived DEATH zero charge and to make matter worse the chinese charger didn’t work … ruined my fishing weekend
Does that charger that comes from MillerTech have the anderson style of connector? I know it designed to be mounted but I would only charge it home and looking for a quick connect.
Stupid question, does the "on board charger" literally means it can only be used on board? I'm looking for a battery for my Newport NK300 trolling motor for my kayak.
I often hear "if a single 36v battery goes down, it's dead. If i have 3x 12v batteries I can swap it over to 24v"
Is that practical? How many people would be able to do that on-the-fly?
Man you do the best breakdowns . Simplified and fast. Awesome vid!!
Thanks!
I took a gamble on the 36v 100ah on amazon. Already used it a couple of times and man what a difference. Never going back
Great Content ... I also run Miller Tech 36V Lithium 60 Ah ... I have 4 of them
That's quite a setup!
@@goodmanfishing Tell yea why i did it this way....First off the Boat is by Blue Sky Boatworks , a Jackson Kayak Company...This boat is called a Tri -Cat 360 Cataram Special . And to power this boat after all my mods are done..I wanted a Twin Drive Electric Newport NK300 setup ... So now getting back to the batteries ..what i did is make each drive with two batteries so i would have 120 Amps better to have enough than not enough... This way if i do have problems, i would have the other drive , fire it up and off i go ... Nice content on the video '' thanks '' PS >> Far as i can see..Miller Tech is the way to go, they are the BEST battery you can go with...And only battery Lithium made in the USA.
Now that’s a boat!
Great video! One item I don't think is correct ---> 100% discharge is a half-cycle. 100% charge is another half-cycle. A cycle can be completed across multiple sessions and/or it can alternate between charge and discharge any number of increments that add up to 100% in both directions, but it must complete 100% in both directions to count as complete.
There's a lot of gray area lately because OEMs commonly publish cycle counts where they discharge to 80%, skipping the bottom 20% since it drastically improves the total. Recently, a few OEMs have been moving the goal post even further to 70% in order to make their cells seem to have superpowers. At 70%, I think most modern LiFePO4 cells can push above 10K cycles, so it's mostly a marketing game that means very little. Above 10K, they'll degrade from calendar aging before you can use every cycle anyway, so babying them w/ 70% doesn't make much sense. I wish they'd all publish both 80% and 100%, but anyone who publishes 70% is just being silly.
I took very close notice when he talked about the warranty. He said Millertech will warranty the battery no matter what goes wrong with it without pro-rating for the length of time you have owned it. I checked their website and thats not true. No matter how long you have owned the battery they have the discretion on whether or not they'll warranty it... Just saying..
Maybe I'll go oooh later in this video, but I'm really shocked about how much he's touching both terminal at the same time by hand
I bought 312 V batteries. If one of my batteries goes out, I only have to buy one to replace it. If your battery goes out, you have to buy the equivalent of three of my batteries to replace it. I didn’t have to change chargers. You do have to change chargers with a 36 V battery. These are the reasons why I think three 12 V batteries are better than one 36 V battery.
Certainly a fair point, but you also have three BMS that could fail, more components in general. Pros and cons to each 👍
Awesome video/videos!
Please help me…
I am a 2-3 times a month angler with a 2012 Ranger Reata Fish/Ski (Mercury 150 -4 stroke) …New Garmin Force trolling motor, 106 (bow) and 93 (helm) fish finders. I love the idea of the 36 volt for the trolling motor.
What Lithium batteries do I need for my electronics and cranking? What on-board charger will work for all 3 if I invest in the battery from this video?
THANK YOU!!!
Thanks for the comment!
Unfortunately, I do not have experience with lithium cranking batteries and how they interact with the charging systems on older outboards. I know that the newer outboards will work well with a lithium. I'm not sure there is a lithium cranking solution available.
That said, you are likely going to need something in the 50-100Ah battery range for the electronics, if it is a standalone battery. There's a new video on the channel to determine what size you would need!
As far as chargers go, a 36v battery is going to require a divorced/1-bank charger. I am not aware of a charger that will manage multiple voltage ranges.
Hopefully that helps - Michael
Ok… thanks! Keep up the great videos.
I’ve had lead acid trolling motor batteries lasted for 5 years.
Got the 36v battery & onboard charger form MillerTech , battery arrived DEATH zero charge and to make matter worse the chinese charger didn’t work … ruined my fishing weekend
Try grade A , LTO 39000 cycles
Does that charger that comes from MillerTech have the anderson style of connector? I know it designed to be mounted but I would only charge it home and looking for a quick connect.
It comes with the ring terminals only. I've used these connectors with other setups that were pretty easy to install. (ad) amzn.to/48P205m
Stupid question, does the "on board charger" literally means it can only be used on board? I'm looking for a battery for my Newport NK300 trolling motor for my kayak.
You can leave it on a bench with a quick connect. It does not have to be affixed
I'm looking for a load test video on a MillerTech LiFePo4. Any chance you will run one on the battery featured...?
I may in the future, but I likely need to get a bigger tester for this type of battery. My tester is maxes out at only 180w.
Nice setup! What trolling motor are you using?
Garmin Force 👍
Where can I find the video on the battery that you're have warranty issues with?
I've not put that video together yet, still working through it 👍
Do the 36 volts ever get hot when using the 112 pound thrust trolling motors?
I have not experienced any heat issues, it has been plenty hot this summer in Texas!
good deal! Do you have an onboard charger?
@@goodmanfishing
I just went to website and it says 5 years only you said 10
The total warranty coverage is 10 years. It's on the site and it's printed on the battery case itself.
Do you have to buy a 36v charger ?
Yes, you will need a way to get above 36v to charge it.