CipiRipi00 he or she, who really cares. This beauty kicked Turkish @sses for good, we owe Aegean Sea and islands occupation to this sole ship ! Either a he or a she, this ship has a d1ck 😂😂😂😂😂⚰️⚰️⚰️⚰️🇹🇷🇹🇷🇹🇷🇹🇷🇹🇷
@@_Laskas_ Which can be considered a giant clit; the regarding of a ship as 'she' is an Anglo-Saxon tradition (I'm not even sure if the French follow this) that I feel reinforces the crew's relationship w/ the vessel and at some level may lateralize yardworkers' creative impulses (a crew of 'mothers').
Actually it was to be scrapped in the 1930s but the outbreak of the Greco Italian war dilated this and after operation " Marita" began ( the German attack on Greece and Yugoslavia ) every warship available was rushed in to service in order to evacuate the Greek government and as much of the Greek army possible to Egypt After ww2 averoff carried back the Greek government and also was used as HQ for the king and his cabinet , every terratory that was liberated especially the Islands was visited by the king and his prime minister carried by averoff As a matter of fact averoff still has a crew and is called " the honourable flagship " 😉
If she had been built as such, Georgios Averof would have been an almost ideal convoy escort in areas that might see enemy raiders show up. A fast enough turn of speed to be able to go off and investigate sightings while still being able to rejoin the convoy afterwards, large enough guns and good enough fire control to be able to engage raiders outside the range of their ~ 6" guns, and sufficient armor to be able to fight off and probably survive an encounter with enemy cruisers. She may have been old, but she still had value.
Against suspicious-looking merchant ships / possible merchant raiders (Italians had some in Somalia before it was captured, Germans also sent some to the Indian ocean and the Japanese had some too) yes as long as she kept her distance (out of the raiders' torpedo range and possibly gun range). Against light cruisers - she didn't have the speed to catch them unless they were already damaged or had broken down. Against heavy cruisers she had neither speed nor firepower (number of guns, range, penetration, rate of fire...)
I'm not even Greek (but met some good folks in Melbourne), and this great story brought a little tear to my eye. Very moving to see the beautiful restoration/museum photo at the end.
When your battleships are iron, and their superheavy armored cruiser is equipped with cemented armor, 20th century optics, and modern rifles, it's not going to be a good day.
Battleships from the world's warship flea market,... And then, what the ottomans did to them. With no ammunition hoists and rangefinders, and condenser issues, giving them 8-10 knots top speed. And not working wather tight doors.... it honestly isn't suprising, that they lost.
not exactly "private investor". Mr. Averoff, quite likely a slave trader, left a huge steaming pile of money to Greek navy in his will. it was used to pay for the ship.
@@klegdixal3529 so a man who was invovled in a legal field of business in the part of the world he was in (hint it wasn't fucking Greece he did it in as slavery was never legal with in the modern Greek state) great attempt at poisoning the well by the by left money for his nation what exactly is the issue
I‘ll go see her this autumn, if circumstances allow it. My parents asked me, if I wanted to join their holiday in Greece and I said, only, if we go to that ship. They agreed, so I‘m going and I‘m very excited.
@@egooidios5061 Yes I did. It was great. Barely any people and lots of pictures. One of them being my current profile picture. Surely a ship that I'll visit again.
Get so used to the ending "...she was scrapped" that its a delight to see a navy appreciating the stirling work this old girl gave over two world wars.
Drachinifel, thanks for clearing up the fact that the GEORGIOS AVEROFF is, like the U.S.S. OLYMPIA, is an armored cruiser; not a battleship or pre-dreadnought. She often described as such in some websites and reference books. Thank God that Greece, unlike those knot-heads in Great Britain regarding the H.M.S. VANGUARD, saved this fine ship from the scrap pile.
Olympia and Aurora are protected cruisers, themselves the only examples left of their type, Averof is a late type armoured cruiser and the only one left. Despite the cruiser name, they have little in common, an armoured cruiser like Averof could be best described as a scaled down battleship, the Pisa class of the Regina Helena class more precisely. They are not comparable, and in fact an armoured cruiser was actually a cruiser killer, much like the battlecruisers were originally designed for, being the armoured cruiser's successors in the dreadnought era.
George Kapadoukakis, thanks for posting the info about the comparisons between OLYMPIA and GEORGIOS AVEROFF. These two ships were the proud ancestors of the cruisers that would follow.
@@Deevo037 Not really.Most of the time after we win a war or have a strategic/ diplomatic victory we decide to have a civil war. Its just the way we do things.
Also the navy started repairing her Crain engine, A\C system, the boiler room,admirals rooms, bridge, and more. All this because they want her to be a moving museum ship across the Aegean sea. (with the help of tagboats offcource) Just imagine this ship moving by its own power again!
I am so glad to hear this ship is now a museum for others to explore and enjoy. So many of the old wargirls were broken up and sold for scrap over the years, it's nice to see the heritage of the past live on as a means of educating and inspiring future generations!
Hahahaha I actually just visited the ship today as part of a school tour! Glad you covered it though it is a pity that your video had more info about the ship active history than the ship had itself. There was no mention of its actions during the second world war other than it server under the British fleet.But to someone like me who have visited other ships as well such as the Belfast in London it was very interesting to see the differences in design philosophy. Greeting from Greece and keep up the good work.
The Greeks had some major balls to go to lengths to save the ship and contributed to the Allied effort, despite the vessel being older than the sailors.
I do believe that Greeks can say that we did our part as best as we could during the war. Though if anyone wants to read more about balsy actions I do recommend the story of the Greek Submarine Papanikolis. Allthought outdated by the time to the point they had trouble finding spare parts the sub did multiple convoy raid and commando drop of mission in the Aegean and more which you can find out yourself
Imagine a private citizen of any major country putting up a major portion the funds to buy a first class cruiser today. I read the last Ticonderoga class cruiser cost around $1 billion dollars. Even covering a quarter of that cost would be an insane $250 million.
The mutiny over blue cheese suggests an entire episode devoted to notable mutinies--surely if cats get an episode (much deserved!) then mutinous crews do as well.
The Greeks used to call the ship " Lucky uncle George" . During her long career of fighting no crewmember got killed, and she was never seriously damaged, just a couple of minor hits. The Turks on the other hand were terrified by her, even became superstitious of it, and called it "Hell's ship". During WW2, while she was in Alexandria port, Egypt, she fended off many axes bombing raids. Her recently installed AA system would not allow enemy bombers to get close enough for precise bombing, so the raids were ineffective .
@@5peciesunkn0wn i am not saying that's not impressive. It definitely was, but it's better to say things as they are, in order to dodge any misrepresentation of history.
Very nice! I would certainly like to get to see her. A nice looking ship, and so glad the Greeks kept her. She deserves the honors. I served with a Greek, Christos, and if the the crew of the Georgios were anything like him, they were crazy, and probably a lot of fun! Not to mention, out for blood.
As always, amazing work sir......love your videos and your work. Please keep it up. I'd love to be in the room when the Greek officers decided to break out for Crete. Like that scene from Battle of Britain. Greek High Command- Return to port. Georgios Averof- Repeat please Greek High Command- We said return to port and disarm. Georgios Averof- Repeat please
From a public forum on topic: "I have a book on the Averoff that I bought at the Naval Museum in Piraeus. In it there's the account of her original captain running her aground off Spithead. This led to loss of confidence by the crew. The near mutiny came while the ship was being repaired and was due to the Captain's inability to organize all the logistical requirements of repair and the running of the ship while she was in port. He was replaced for the return voyage. The only connection with cheese during this time was the crew's belief that the cheese they were provisioned with in England was bad. This was because Greeks weren't used to yellow cheese and thought that it looked spoiled. No mutiny though, they just refused to eat it." From: Το θωρηκτό Αβέρωφ, FINATEC, A.E.
And this posted below: "I found the exact passage included on the Wikipedia page. It's from a book 'Lucky Uncle George' by James Shneer. It looks very much like a book born of passion for the subject, rather than academia. Possibly a self-published book. Doesn't necessarily mean it's not reliable - but I'd be inclined to look for a second source. This link is to the book on Google Books books.google.com.au/books?id=27TJAwAAQBAJ&pg=PA3&lpg=PA3&dq=georgios+averof+blue+cheese&source=bl&ots=hyV0FINdxX&sig=cCUoie-obrmj79c0xLBA3lCh_pY&hl=en&sa=X&ei=_cnyU8y2EsmzuASwr4HABg#v=onepage&q=georgios%20averof%20blue%20cheese&f=false
Well i want to add to the last comment over Greeks in WW2 and i would wanted to connect to the Greek Character. In general greeks have strong Ego and see them selves the only rulers over themselves .In contrast in Europe there is a logic obidience and following orders. I live in Netherlands and i see that every day i had to level down my ego in order to communicate with the dutch.. This makes Greeks fierce fighters but sucking in organizing and thats why the French fleet got destroyed while the Greek escaped thats why Greece fought in ww2 more than one month and the dutch 1 week
The Dutch ship that disguised itself as an island in the Asian theatre of operations to keep fighting the Japanese (HNLMS, then RNAS, then back to HNLMS Abraham Crijnssen) would like a word with you...
@@tcpratt1660 comparison with the Dutch might be a bit off here, I have visited the Netherlands too and I have to say they are warm people, totally not expecting this from northeners. I think they are the middle ground between Greek anarchy and German discipline, that is why they ruled the seas but didn't have a monster state like the Germans did.
I'm honestly not surprised in the slightest that Greek sailors would mutiny over cheese. They take food very seriously, that's why there are so many Greek restaurant and grocery owners.
Such a gorgeous ship if you see the full modern documentary or visit it in person. It looks like it’s fresh from the shipyard. While it has rich woods and copper everywhere, it still actually look fairly modern.
How about the HMAS Diamantina, only a baby compared with most of your ships but did a bit towards the end of WW2 around New Guinea and Solomon Islands and the Pacific. It is permanently on display in a small dry dock on the Brisbane River. It is part of the Queensland Maritime Museum.
Pride of a nation a beast made of steel Averof in motion king of the ocean he was made to rule the waves across the Mediterranean Sea. To lead the war machine to rule the waves and lead the Greek navy.
Great video, Thank you! I would like to follow up on the cheese riot. While drydocked in England, the sailors were not familiar with the mould in blue cheese. This lead to the misunderstanding.
and ocked on the other side of the harbor is a fletcher class destroyer, you could even see it in some of the pictures. 2 entierly different ships from different eras.
I had just watched the original video last night - for the umpteenth time - just to remember the deeds of a heroic crew on a fine ship... And to hear dry British wit concerning the difference between good fire control and just killing fish. (roflmbo)
How do you think the Regia Marina got all the mackerel, anchovies, and tuna that supplied the Italian military kitchens - the Littorios' shell quality was probably deliberately designed just for this purpose...!
It is a ship than alone turned the tides of a war. A ship that wherever it sailed gave hope and courage to my fellow countrymen. A ship that carried the king and the government. The "Sword of Mediterrenean Sea", undefeated in battle, it is Argo in flesh.
Must be superheating those boilers! BTW, you did a great job with the Gato-class boats of the USN. I'd love it if you could give the same excellent treatment to the S-class boats.
The story sounds apocryphal. I can't find any solid source for that. There are only unsourced references to a bar brawl by Greek sailors in Britain who were served bleu cheese and were insulted by the moldy food with which they were unfamiliar, and a near mutiny just after that caused by the sailors mistrust of the officers who happened to have run the ship aground. An official publication of the British naval training mission mentions the poor discipline and the grounding but says nothing about cheese. Having been a sailor, and having known Greeks, I can say that unfamiliar cheese is as good a reason as any other for drunk sailors to brawl, but I doubt there is any actual connection between cheese and the onboard discipline problems.
The real heroes of the ship. The crew that recieved orders to scuttle her and instead gave its government a silent screw you and fled to crete to help the war effort. saving the ship.
Even though it's not a battleship it's still technology of the turn of the century which makes this absolutely amazing. Even if the main guns are only 9.2 in as opposed to the 11 or 12 in of the pre-dreadnought it's still the older armament layout vertical triple expansion engines and all. They say A picture speaks a thousand words well the actual thing is probably worth every word at least in one language
The Giorgis Averof is often mischaracterized as a battleship but in actuality it was a saiyan. Its funnel smoke turned golden yellow as it charged the Ottoman Navy and chased them out of the Aegean.
I've been to visit this ship recently. It's an excellent museum and a bargain at 5 euros/adult. Not all part of the ship are open to the public. It's a shame we're not allowed to the engine room or lower decks.
Hey Drachinifel, could you perhaps make a playlist that contains all the videos made with your voice? I've been recently binge-watching your vidos, and your voice is magnificent, however the odd robot voiced film is super jarring. It isn't that much of a priority, and don't do it if it's too much work, but a playlistlist of videos only with your lovely voice would be grand.
As I replace the robovoice videos I'm shuffling them to their own playlist. Once the process is done, all videos on the main playlists will be human voiced.
well we dont have much ships and most of them where pre dreadnought era ships if they want to add them they need to put them in the pan-europe tech tree that they want to make
Nice video, but one correction. Georgios Averof, the rich citizen who paid for the downpayment, didn't 'step in', ( 1:33 ) like said at he had died years before in 1899, and left 300,000 pounds in his will to the Greek navy, who kept it in reserve and then used it years later for the downpayment for the ship
Marine Nationale: "Vive le fromage! Vive la France! Vive la Grèce! Vive la RHS Georgios Averof! Amiral, envoyez à l'honorable navire grec du fromage vraiment délicieux, s'il vous plaît! Liberté, égalité, fraternité, et fromagerié!"
Just a quick comment, the sentence about the Royale is a bit unfair. Situations were not the same, a good part of the french navy was not found to join UK navy after Mers-El-Kebir event (1 300 deads) and secondly, the main issue was a lot of the ships were not ready to sail (no more fuel in the tanks for example). They at least managed to prepare to sabotage the ships despite inspections (allowed by the french government of the time). Some did even better and effectively join the allied forces (mainly submarines).
I looked up Georgios Averoff; he died in 1899 so he didn't just buy this specific ship as a patriotic gesture. Rather, money he had left the Greek navy upon his death a decade prior was used to purchase it. Small detail, but I was a little surprised to find that, having always read it as stated here. "A patriotic citizen stepped in and bought the ship for the Greek government", etc.
A patriotic greek had left in his will the Helenic Navy enough money to buy half a modern ship, after a humiliating defeat in the Grecko-Turkish war of 1897. Do you know many wealthy citizens around the world that proceed in such actions?
He specifically demanded in his will that these money will be spend for equiping the Hellenic Navy with a modern and capable ship, he didn't just left money for the Navy at random.
facts... the girl saved all of hellenic islands to aigeon sea , all of them and are many :) in my counry always trying to save pieces from our past , we have a long one, but ppls working on that day per day :)
@@sotabaka It was definately not paid by EU, was saved due to a combination of donations from citizens and from businesmen for the largest part. Hellenic navy and shipping/military industry put the work. Mind you Hellenic military has (had?) its own financial assets and investements to spare (well, it used to at least) for anything outside of things like buying weaponry/ammunitions, salaries, fuel, standard maintainance etc and these money weren't (well back then again) comming or going to the government, in fact it did better than all of the other sectors of the state with managing its assets (which is quite funny and interesting if you had actually lived through it but as unbelievable as it might be, thats how it was) and even did better that lots of the private business sector too.
With all of the modifications that the Greeks had made to the basic Pisa-class design, it's a pity they didn't opt to replace the twin 7.5" turrets with 9.2" singles.
Yes, I had thought of tha as well. With a uniform 9.2 inch battery it would be even more interesting. But having more guns was opted out at the time I would guess
What you people forget is that there was also a feeling of urgency for the ship to be bought, arive and be operational. To point out how urgent was that Hellas will have this ship asap, I will remind you that one of the guns barel had a (initially thought critical) serious "scar" (construction mistake) inside and was to be switched with a new one. There was a quick inspection by the Greeks it was considered of no importance, even more so because they needed that ship "now" and not "later" and they would rather have one injured gun shortly than perfect guns during/after a "party" had started and as anyone can read now there were lots of partying in the horizon. Mind you the Ottoman navy was considered one of the greatest (albeit a known paper giant) of the time and even though quite old (and not adequately maintained) it wasn't really in a worse state than the then Hellenic fleet (minus Averof). At that same time period the Ottomans were looking to buy modern warships too and in fact this specific one was one of those they were eyeing, albeit failed to do get anything in the end due to a combination of reasons (diplomatic, financial and -mostly- bad timing). That doesn't mean that the modification you propose would be considered but I am saying that there was no time for any considerations and delays even if someone had the same opinion as you or any other redesigning/modifications.
Yes. Averof is late design armoured cruiser, a miniaturised battleship if you like, with heavy guns and armor for her size. You could say she is more like the coastal defence battleships of the Scandinavian navies, a role similar to what he Italians had in mind when they designed the Pisas. Belfast is from a couple of generations later, a light cruiser designed for speed and range.
Georgios Averof literally did one of the best investments in Greek history
Well done to the Greek government for saving her!
CipiRipi00 he or she, who really cares. This beauty kicked Turkish @sses for good, we owe Aegean Sea and islands occupation to this sole ship ! Either a he or a she, this ship has a d1ck 😂😂😂😂😂⚰️⚰️⚰️⚰️🇹🇷🇹🇷🇹🇷🇹🇷🇹🇷
@@_Laskas_ Which can be considered a giant clit; the regarding of a ship as 'she' is an Anglo-Saxon tradition (I'm not even sure if the French follow this) that I feel reinforces the crew's relationship w/ the vessel and at some level may lateralize yardworkers' creative impulses (a crew of 'mothers').
@@jamesbugbee6812 sure, if u see it this way. Though I can’t imagine how a clit can f*ck a whole fleet and thus conquer all of the Aegean Sea
@CipiRipi00 no, this one is not.
@CipiRipi00 technically yes but its always mentioned as a he so i dont know for sure
honestly it's good to see another ship be saved from the breakyards.
Actually it was to be scrapped in the 1930s but the outbreak of the Greco Italian war dilated this and after operation " Marita" began ( the German attack on Greece and Yugoslavia ) every warship available was rushed in to service in order to evacuate the Greek government and as much of the Greek army possible to Egypt
After ww2 averoff carried back the Greek government and also was used as HQ for the king and his cabinet , every terratory that was liberated especially the Islands was visited by the king and his prime minister carried by averoff
As a matter of fact averoff still has a crew and is called " the honourable flagship " 😉
Especially such a beauty. She's a beautiful baby battleship.
What a brilliant ship history. The Greeks have their own Warspite and had the good sense to keep her.
That's neat if I ever go to Greece that is definitely going to be high on my list of things to see
Chris Britt i have visited it. It’s definitely worth it, you can also see other ships aswell. And it’s only 3€ so it’s more than worth it
If she had been built as such, Georgios Averof would have been an almost ideal convoy escort in areas that might see enemy raiders show up. A fast enough turn of speed to be able to go off and investigate sightings while still being able to rejoin the convoy afterwards, large enough guns and good enough fire control to be able to engage raiders outside the range of their ~ 6" guns, and sufficient armor to be able to fight off and probably survive an encounter with enemy cruisers. She may have been old, but she still had value.
Against suspicious-looking merchant ships / possible merchant raiders (Italians had some in Somalia before it was captured, Germans also sent some to the Indian ocean and the Japanese had some too) yes as long as she kept her distance (out of the raiders' torpedo range and possibly gun range). Against light cruisers - she didn't have the speed to catch them unless they were already damaged or had broken down. Against heavy cruisers she had neither speed nor firepower (number of guns, range, penetration, rate of fire...)
I'm not even Greek (but met some good folks in Melbourne), and this great story brought a little tear to my eye. Very moving to see the beautiful restoration/museum photo at the end.
Who would win?
A fleet of 3 battleships or one private investor cuiser boiii?
Gotta love history
When your battleships are iron, and their superheavy armored cruiser is equipped with cemented armor, 20th century optics, and modern rifles, it's not going to be a good day.
Battleships from the world's warship flea market,... And then, what the ottomans did to them. With no ammunition hoists and rangefinders, and condenser issues, giving them 8-10 knots top speed. And not working wather tight doors.... it honestly isn't suprising, that they lost.
not exactly "private investor". Mr. Averoff, quite likely a slave trader, left a huge steaming pile of money to Greek navy in his will. it was used to pay for the ship.
@@klegdixal3529 so a man who was invovled in a legal field of business in the part of the world he was in (hint it wasn't fucking Greece he did it in as slavery was never legal with in the modern Greek state) great attempt at poisoning the well by the by left money for his nation what exactly is the issue
No way
It's the war thunder dude
6:35 - Not only this gorgeous old cruiser, but in the background, a Fletcher also preserved, former USS Charrette, DD-581. Classy bunch!
The Velos (Arrow), as it was known under the Greek Navy. Also a museum ship!
@@raindrain1 also worth visiting. Kinda Rundown though...
I‘ll go see her this autumn, if circumstances allow it. My parents asked me, if I wanted to join their holiday in Greece and I said, only, if we go to that ship. They agreed, so I‘m going and I‘m very excited.
so did you made it?
@@egooidios5061 Yes I did. It was great. Barely any people and lots of pictures. One of them being my current profile picture.
Surely a ship that I'll visit again.
@@fabianzimmermann5495 Wasn’t the ship absolutely gorgeous. Did you get to see the captain’s bathroom. Such a cool little detail.
Get so used to the ending "...she was scrapped" that its a delight to see a navy appreciating the stirling work this old girl gave over two world wars.
5 wars the Averoff fought in and she brought all but two of her crew home alive while fighting like a demon out of hell in every fight
Drachinifel, thanks for clearing up the fact that the GEORGIOS AVEROFF is, like the U.S.S. OLYMPIA, is an armored cruiser; not a battleship or pre-dreadnought. She often described as such in some websites and reference books. Thank God that Greece, unlike those knot-heads in Great Britain regarding the H.M.S. VANGUARD, saved this fine ship from the scrap pile.
Olympia and Aurora are protected cruisers, themselves the only examples left of their type, Averof is a late type armoured cruiser and the only one left. Despite the cruiser name, they have little in common, an armoured cruiser like Averof could be best described as a scaled down battleship, the Pisa class of the Regina Helena class more precisely. They are not comparable, and in fact an armoured cruiser was actually a cruiser killer, much like the battlecruisers were originally designed for, being the armoured cruiser's successors in the dreadnought era.
George Kapadoukakis, thanks for posting the info about the comparisons between OLYMPIA and GEORGIOS AVEROFF. These two ships were the proud ancestors of the cruisers that would follow.
Glad to see that she's still afloat and thank you to the crew that saved her from the Germans.
"Hence fourth it shall not be said that the Greeks fight like heroes, but that heroes fight like the Greeks"
Winston Churchill
My Greek boss used to say that the Greeks spent so much time fighting each other they could never wage a good war with someone else.
@@Deevo037 Not really.Most of the time after we win a war or have a strategic/ diplomatic victory we decide to have a civil war. Its just the way we do things.
@@somber4315 Yeah we are just built different
Also the navy started repairing her Crain engine, A\C system, the boiler room,admirals rooms, bridge, and more. All this because they want her to be a moving museum ship across the Aegean sea. (with the help of tagboats offcource)
Just imagine this ship moving by its own power again!
Captain Johny
Holy shit. That would be awesome. A mobile museum ship, and one that actually did have a significant impact in history too!
It would truly be a sight to behold.
I am so glad to hear this ship is now a museum for others to explore and enjoy. So many of the old wargirls were broken up and sold for scrap over the years, it's nice to see the heritage of the past live on as a means of educating and inspiring future generations!
Hahahaha I actually just visited the ship today as part of a school tour! Glad you covered it though it is a pity that your video had more info about the ship active history than the ship had itself. There was no mention of its actions during the second world war other than it server under the British fleet.But to someone like me who have visited other ships as well such as the Belfast in London it was very interesting to see the differences in design philosophy. Greeting from Greece and keep up the good work.
The Greeks had some major balls to go to lengths to save the ship and contributed to the Allied effort, despite the vessel being older than the sailors.
I do believe that Greeks can say that we did our part as best as we could during the war. Though if anyone wants to read more about balsy actions I do recommend the story of the Greek Submarine Papanikolis. Allthought outdated by the time to the point they had trouble finding spare parts the sub did multiple convoy raid and commando drop of mission in the Aegean and more which you can find out yourself
Imagine a private citizen of any major country putting up a major portion the funds to buy a first class cruiser today. I read the last Ticonderoga class cruiser cost around $1 billion dollars. Even covering a quarter of that cost would be an insane $250 million.
In 1909 Ottoman Government ordered 2 modern dreadnoughts from the British, funds for these two ships were raised by the donations of the people
I can see Bill Gates asking the U.S. Navy to build two or four more Zumwalt Destroyers and he paided for them
Averof willed it. And he’s gotten so much bang for his buck. His name will be forever famous now.
The mutiny over blue cheese suggests an entire episode devoted to notable mutinies--surely if cats get an episode (much deserved!) then mutinous crews do as well.
The Greeks used to call the ship " Lucky uncle George" . During her long career of fighting no crewmember got killed, and she was never seriously damaged, just a couple of minor hits. The Turks on the other hand were terrified by her, even became superstitious of it, and called it "Hell's ship".
During WW2, while she was in Alexandria port, Egypt, she fended off many axes bombing raids. Her recently installed AA system would not allow enemy bombers to get close enough for precise bombing, so the raids were ineffective .
Actually, only 2 crew members died and only 8 were wounded.
@@koprotheka6055 still a *miniscule* number for fighting in several wars.
@@5peciesunkn0wn i am not saying that's not impressive. It definitely was, but it's better to say things as they are, in order to dodge any misrepresentation of history.
🇹🇷actually we called her “devil steamer”
@@samanli-tw3id to be honest that's sounds even cooler 😉
Thanks for the do-over with the human voice, you are way easier on the ear than the old text to speech.
Seconded! :-)
But not nearly as amusing when it flubbed pronouncing words not in its database.
Very nice! I would certainly like to get to see her. A nice looking ship, and so glad the Greeks kept her. She deserves the honors.
I served with a Greek, Christos, and if the the crew of the Georgios were anything like him, they were crazy, and probably a lot of fun! Not to mention, out for blood.
The Greeks definitely got their moneys worth with this ship. A very solid performance thanks to good work of its crew.
As always, amazing work sir......love your videos and your work. Please keep it up.
I'd love to be in the room when the Greek officers decided to break out for Crete. Like that scene from Battle of Britain.
Greek High Command- Return to port.
Georgios Averof- Repeat please
Greek High Command- We said return to port and disarm.
Georgios Averof- Repeat please
Old ships sticking around for the public to appreciate makes me happy
If we can look today at a map of Aegean sea and say, "I'm gonna visit the Greek islands this year", is because of this ship.
From a public forum on topic:
"I have a book on the Averoff that I bought at the Naval Museum in Piraeus.
In it there's the account of her original captain running her aground off Spithead. This led to loss of confidence by the crew. The near mutiny came while the ship was being repaired and was due to the Captain's inability to organize all the logistical requirements of repair and the running of the ship while she was in port. He was replaced for the return voyage.
The only connection with cheese during this time was the crew's belief that the cheese they were provisioned with in England was bad. This was because Greeks weren't used to yellow cheese and thought that it looked spoiled. No mutiny though, they just refused to eat it."
From: Το θωρηκτό Αβέρωφ, FINATEC, A.E.
And this posted below:
"I found the exact passage included on the Wikipedia page. It's from a book 'Lucky Uncle George' by James Shneer.
It looks very much like a book born of passion for the subject, rather than academia. Possibly a self-published book. Doesn't necessarily mean it's not reliable - but I'd be inclined to look for a second source.
This link is to the book on Google Books
books.google.com.au/books?id=27TJAwAAQBAJ&pg=PA3&lpg=PA3&dq=georgios+averof+blue+cheese&source=bl&ots=hyV0FINdxX&sig=cCUoie-obrmj79c0xLBA3lCh_pY&hl=en&sa=X&ei=_cnyU8y2EsmzuASwr4HABg#v=onepage&q=georgios%20averof%20blue%20cheese&f=false
Such a great warship. There might be twenty thousand other places to visit in Greece, but this is a must.
Amazing that this ship is still around well done Greece!
and still sailing
Only with the help of tugboats, though. (I guess refitting the old coal boilers would damage the ship too much).
@@raindrain1 don't forget how expensive coal is these days
One of the fire things we managed to get right
My great grandfather served on here during WW2 and yeah the ship is a beautiful example of a museum ship. Very much so worth the visit
Well i want to add to the last comment over Greeks in WW2 and i would wanted to connect to the Greek Character. In general greeks have strong Ego and see them selves the only rulers over themselves .In contrast in Europe there is a logic obidience and following orders. I live in Netherlands and i see that every day i had to level down my ego in order to communicate with the dutch.. This makes Greeks fierce fighters but sucking in organizing and thats why the French fleet got destroyed while the Greek escaped thats why Greece fought in ww2 more than one month and the dutch 1 week
The Dutch haven't ever said...
Molon Labe.
The Dutch ship that disguised itself as an island in the Asian theatre of operations to keep fighting the Japanese (HNLMS, then RNAS, then back to HNLMS Abraham Crijnssen) would like a word with you...
@@tcpratt1660 comparison with the Dutch might be a bit off here, I have visited the Netherlands too and I have to say they are warm people, totally not expecting this from northeners. I think they are the middle ground between Greek anarchy and German discipline, that is why they ruled the seas but didn't have a monster state like the Germans did.
There is no better summation for the Greek personality than tax evasion is national pass time in Greece
I'm honestly not surprised in the slightest that Greek sailors would mutiny over cheese. They take food very seriously, that's why there are so many Greek restaurant and grocery owners.
I mean it's totally fair to mutiny being sold moudly food.
Good shows for the Greeks they certainly got their money's worth out of her
Such a gorgeous ship if you see the full modern documentary or visit it in person. It looks like it’s fresh from the shipyard. While it has rich woods and copper everywhere, it still actually look fairly modern.
Thank you...the voice-over helps make this a fascinating "listen"
How about the HMAS Diamantina, only a baby compared with most of your ships but did a bit towards the end of WW2 around New Guinea and Solomon Islands and the Pacific. It is permanently on display in a small dry dock on the Brisbane River. It is part of the Queensland Maritime Museum.
As a Greek this video makes me happy can’t wait to go see it one day.
Pride of a nation a beast made of steel Averof in motion king of the ocean he was made to rule the waves across the Mediterranean Sea. To lead the war machine to rule the waves and lead the Greek navy.
Oh thank the gods! It always breaks my heart to hear about ships with this kind of service record and history going to the breakers.
I am so proud of this ship. Fighting spirit at its best.
Great video, Thank you! I would like to follow up on the cheese riot. While drydocked in England, the sailors were not familiar with the mould in blue cheese. This lead to the misunderstanding.
I suppose if you've only eaten feta all your life, stilton would come as somewhat of a surprise.
*collective high five to for averof*
and ocked on the other side of the harbor is a fletcher class destroyer, you could even see it in some of the pictures. 2 entierly different ships from different eras.
Also a historic ship cause it was the one which mutinied against the Dictatorship regime in the 60's
I was very happy to hear such a ship was kept! Good on the Greeks for that!
Well that just gives me one great reason to go to Greece one day I ever get a chance that ship is at the top of my list
just check if the ship is in port because they move her to other citys
Having been on this floating iron brick, i really liked this vid
I'M quickly becoming a war ship enthusiasts, graet video my man !!
I had just watched the original video last night - for the umpteenth time - just to remember the deeds of a heroic crew on a fine ship...
And to hear dry British wit concerning the difference between good fire control and just killing fish. (roflmbo)
How do you think the Regia Marina got all the mackerel, anchovies, and tuna that supplied the Italian military kitchens - the Littorios' shell quality was probably deliberately designed just for this purpose...!
What a happy ending for this interesting ship!
It is a ship than alone turned the tides of a war. A ship that wherever it sailed gave hope and courage to my fellow countrymen. A ship that carried the king and the government. The "Sword of Mediterrenean Sea", undefeated in battle, it is Argo in flesh.
Must be superheating those boilers!
BTW, you did a great job with the Gato-class boats of the USN. I'd love it if you could give the same excellent treatment to the S-class boats.
Dude, cheese is serious business. Don't downplay it.
Same here my interest was... roused by the single sentence lol
The story sounds apocryphal. I can't find any solid source for that. There are only unsourced references to a bar brawl by Greek sailors in Britain who were served bleu cheese and were insulted by the moldy food with which they were unfamiliar, and a near mutiny just after that caused by the sailors mistrust of the officers who happened to have run the ship aground. An official publication of the British naval training mission mentions the poor discipline and the grounding but says nothing about cheese. Having been a sailor, and having known Greeks, I can say that unfamiliar cheese is as good a reason as any other for drunk sailors to brawl, but I doubt there is any actual connection between cheese and the onboard discipline problems.
Great bit of history. Thanks!
Great video as usual. Would love to tour her. Didn't even know the old girl existed before now.
ruclips.net/video/_1E5MkAxbWE/видео.html
Here, I have you covered.
The real heroes of the ship.
The crew that recieved orders to scuttle her and instead gave its government a silent screw you and fled to crete to help the war effort. saving the ship.
Added to my list of things & places to visit once travel restrictions are lifted.
So many of these wonderful ships get broken up, Im glad this one has survived.
I've gotta say she looks well preserved, she looks almost brand new. Can't really see much rust in the picture of her
In addition to that, the ship went on a restoration/repair process just recently.
I've been to see her in 2017, and she doesn't have a lot of rust. A small speck here and there and that's it.
That’s far more than can be said for the USS Texas😢
Georgios Averof not only paid for the ship, he also funded the 1896 Olympic Games.
All things considered, she's a good-looking ship .
The cheese near mutiny is hilarious. It looked and smelled like rotten feta
Fun fact: technically it still is a oporational ship in the greek navy
Murdering the local fish population, where do you come up with these lines? You are cracking me up.
erdogan claims over 274kg frozen fish from 1912 blown up by ottoman fleet
I'm going to see her in Piraeus in a few weeks...can’t wait!
That ship anchored next to her is a fletcher class destroyer purchased by the Greek government after ww2
As of 2022, Themisocles' trireme is in the dock next to her. The king of the Persians should worry.
Virgin Bismark vs Chad Averof
She is a fine old warship and deserved to be saved.
Even though it's not a battleship it's still technology of the turn of the century which makes this absolutely amazing.
Even if the main guns are only 9.2 in as opposed to the 11 or 12 in of the pre-dreadnought it's still the older armament layout vertical triple expansion engines and all.
They say A picture speaks a thousand words well the actual thing is probably worth every word at least in one language
The Giorgis Averof is often mischaracterized as a battleship but in actuality it was a saiyan. Its funnel smoke turned golden yellow as it charged the Ottoman Navy and chased them out of the Aegean.
sounds like she put in good service.
A correction: It is pronounced AvErof. Αβέρωφ in greek. The tone is on the e, not the A.
That was a surprising ending! It’s usually “scrapped. The end.”
You are 1 year ahead of Wargaming
I've been to visit this ship recently. It's an excellent museum and a bargain at 5 euros/adult. Not all part of the ship are open to the public. It's a shame we're not allowed to the engine room or lower decks.
The uss olympia is also a surviving armoured cruiser...
By armour layout Olympia is a protected cruiser. :)
Protected, not armored
Everyone mistakes protected cruisers with armored ones lol
Fantastic repost...thank you...
Hey Drachinifel, could you perhaps make a playlist that contains all the videos made with your voice? I've been recently binge-watching your vidos, and your voice is magnificent, however the odd robot voiced film is super jarring. It isn't that much of a priority, and don't do it if it's too much work, but a playlistlist of videos only with your lovely voice would be grand.
As I replace the robovoice videos I'm shuffling them to their own playlist. Once the process is done, all videos on the main playlists will be human voiced.
@@Drachinifel Fantastic, thanks so much for the answer :)
Yesterday I visited the battleship georgios averof i love this ship because is from Greece and i am from Greece
I feel the biggest scene of De jam Vu... I have seen this video before
Come on World of Warships....Greek Navy!
well we dont have much ships and most of them where pre dreadnought era ships if they want to add them they need to put them in the pan-europe tech tree that they want to make
Nice video, but one correction. Georgios Averof, the rich citizen who paid for the downpayment, didn't 'step in', ( 1:33 ) like said at he had died years before in 1899, and left 300,000 pounds in his will to the Greek navy, who kept it in reserve and then used it years later for the downpayment for the ship
How do you get so angry over cheese, you have a mutiny. White Mediterraneans 100
Marine Nationale: "Vive le fromage! Vive la France! Vive la Grèce! Vive la RHS Georgios Averof! Amiral, envoyez à l'honorable navire grec du fromage vraiment délicieux, s'il vous plaît! Liberté, égalité, fraternité, et fromagerié!"
Whoever is willing to eat blue cheese should get their mental health checked.
Just a quick comment, the sentence about the Royale is a bit unfair. Situations were not the same, a good part of the french navy was not found to join UK navy after Mers-El-Kebir event (1 300 deads) and secondly, the main issue was a lot of the ships were not ready to sail (no more fuel in the tanks for example). They at least managed to prepare to sabotage the ships despite inspections (allowed by the french government of the time). Some did even better and effectively join the allied forces (mainly submarines).
You can see her here ruclips.net/video/HcgOQCYTQkQ/видео.html being ceremoniously tugged into the port of Salonica and hear her haunting howl.
I looked up Georgios Averoff; he died in 1899 so he didn't just buy this specific ship as a patriotic gesture. Rather, money he had left the Greek navy upon his death a decade prior was used to purchase it. Small detail, but I was a little surprised to find that, having always read it as stated here. "A patriotic citizen stepped in and bought the ship for the Greek government", etc.
A patriotic greek had left in his will the Helenic Navy enough money to buy half a modern ship, after a humiliating defeat in the Grecko-Turkish war of 1897. Do you know many wealthy citizens around the world that proceed in such actions?
He specifically demanded in his will that these money will be spend for equiping the Hellenic Navy with a modern and capable ship, he didn't just left money for the Navy at random.
Good on you Greek dudes for saving this old girl.
facts... the girl saved all of hellenic islands to aigeon sea , all of them and are many :) in my counry always trying to save pieces from our past , we have a long one, but ppls working on that day per day :)
I presume the ship is docked at Pireas?
Palaio faliro district, next to the yacht marina
yes with a general meaning... :) the main por of peiraias are a little big, so are located into a smaller part of peiraious port
Exilent inventment
turks for many years , used to call that ship " evil ship "
'Satan's Ship' would be more accurate.
3rd then I guess. Liked the video and trying to encourage u to keep up the good work
How nice. A distinguished ship whose narrative did not conclude with “and sold for scrap”.
Soo.... Greece could scrape together enough drachma together to save a historic 20th century ship but the mighty British Empire, not so much
the EU paid for it ? so one more brexiter argument? :)
greetings my good friend..the " great mighty British Empire" was always good to.. you know.. with old historica items from all over the world... :)
@@sotabaka It was definately not paid by EU, was saved due to a combination of donations from citizens and from businesmen for the largest part. Hellenic navy and shipping/military industry put the work. Mind you Hellenic military has (had?) its own financial assets and investements to spare (well, it used to at least) for anything outside of things like buying weaponry/ammunitions, salaries, fuel, standard maintainance etc and these money weren't (well back then again) comming or going to the government, in fact it did better than all of the other sectors of the state with managing its assets (which is quite funny and interesting if you had actually lived through it but as unbelievable as it might be, thats how it was) and even did better that lots of the private business sector too.
Nicely done 👍
With all of the modifications that the Greeks had made to the basic Pisa-class design, it's a pity they didn't opt to replace the twin 7.5" turrets with 9.2" singles.
Yes, I had thought of tha as well. With a uniform 9.2 inch battery it would be even more interesting. But having more guns was opted out at the time I would guess
What you people forget is that there was also a feeling of urgency for the ship to be bought, arive and be operational. To point out how urgent was that Hellas will have this ship asap, I will remind you that one of the guns barel had a (initially thought critical) serious "scar" (construction mistake) inside and was to be switched with a new one. There was a quick inspection by the Greeks it was considered of no importance, even more so because they needed that ship "now" and not "later" and they would rather have one injured gun shortly than perfect guns during/after a "party" had started and as anyone can read now there were lots of partying in the horizon. Mind you the Ottoman navy was considered one of the greatest (albeit a known paper giant) of the time and even though quite old (and not adequately maintained) it wasn't really in a worse state than the then Hellenic fleet (minus Averof).
At that same time period the Ottomans were looking to buy modern warships too and in fact this specific one was one of those they were eyeing, albeit failed to do get anything in the end due to a combination of reasons (diplomatic, financial and -mostly- bad timing).
That doesn't mean that the modification you propose would be considered but I am saying that there was no time for any considerations and delays even if someone had the same opinion as you or any other redesigning/modifications.
HMS Belfast isnt an example of a armoured cruiser?
Belfast is a fast cruiser right?
Yes. Averof is late design armoured cruiser, a miniaturised battleship if you like, with heavy guns and armor for her size. You could say she is more like the coastal defence battleships of the Scandinavian navies, a role similar to what he Italians had in mind when they designed the Pisas. Belfast is from a couple of generations later, a light cruiser designed for speed and range.
One of the ships in GWX im still looking forward to finding and sinking 😂
Kudoos to a ship that survived
Now, maybe it's time to watch here a video about stories of SMS Goeben / TCG Yavuz (and ofcourse, SMS Breslau/TCG Midilli)