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  • in tower defense simulator accelerator isn't the only hardcore tower to buy, there's also engineer now. for the price, which is a better tower?
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  • @GDILIVES
    @GDILIVES  2 года назад +785

    accel is cooler
    twitter.com/M1A2_AbramsTank

  • @idontwannabeayoutuber6109
    @idontwannabeayoutuber6109 2 года назад +5

    John: if i lose i will scream as hard as i can
    Me with headphones:no no no NO NO NO NO NO

  • @PixelatedAspects
    @PixelatedAspects 2 года назад

    Ty John this really helped my because I was gonna grind for her but I'm keeping accelerator and leaving

  • @SmackyGuy
    @SmackyGuy 2 года назад +1061

    add a button into the game where if you press it you can drag your mouse across your towers to sell multiple towers at once. It would be very helpful in the difficult modes.

    • @29kmarch25
      @29kmarch25 2 года назад +68

      He is only just dev bc he trailer man

    • @Galoric
      @Galoric 2 года назад +25

      Make it so that theres a keyboard key u can press to sell

    • @_BONKED_
      @_BONKED_ 2 года назад +29

      What if you accidentally sell towers you don’t want to sell

    • @cfor9971
      @cfor9971 2 года назад +5

      @BONKED maybe make cooldown thing like when buying passes by robux

    • @yeetmusxdhey6540
      @yeetmusxdhey6540 2 года назад +15

      he isn't a dev

  • @puff.3809
    @puff.3809 2 года назад +249

    Accelerator upsides
    - Has hidden detection at level 0
    - Amazing DPS at all levels
    - DPS at level 5 pretty much negates a lot of downsides
    Accelerator downsides
    - Damage is affected by RNG, each tick will deal 70%-100% of damage, max accel can do 270-375 DPS
    - Same targeting as the Pursuit, can only attack and target the same enemy until it dies
    - Levels 1 and 2 are near useless lol
    - Extremely weak against stuns
    -Has short range for an endgame tower (even though it’s 20)
    - Will struggle against extremely tanky bosses if it’s a lower level (and it won’t be able to clean up the weaker that pass by enemies)
    Engineer upsides
    - An incredible 500 DPS
    - Can actually be used for early game (not as good tho)
    - Sentries can’t be affected by stuns that don’t deal unit damage (Boomer stuns, Void Reaver spheres, Fallen Guardian pokes, etc.)
    Engineer downsides
    - Sentries aren’t affected by buffs (DJ and Commander)
    - A max level engineer costs 54k
    - The worst tower against stomp stuns (will be fixed in the next patch)
    - Sentries don’t have hidden detection
    - Not that good at early game, especially against shadows
    Despite all of the downsides that the Accelerator has, it’s MORE WORTH IT than the Engineer because a Level 5 Accelerator’s DPS basically makes up for all of the downsides.

    • @cj_scout1
      @cj_scout1 2 года назад +2

      but you have to put in the fact that for engi you can use dj to lower the price and cheap to place, you need some other good early to mid-game towers to support the engi till you get it maxed out

    • @jaywildmommymilker2350
      @jaywildmommymilker2350 2 года назад +23

      Accel still better

    • @mrcreepychicken6452
      @mrcreepychicken6452 2 года назад +17

      @@cj_scout1 You realize dj also applies to accel right which completely negates your point and same goes for your second point.

    • @icanonlyhave50charactersin30
      @icanonlyhave50charactersin30 2 года назад +2

      @@jaywildmommymilker2350 If you'd actually read the comment you'd see that this person already said Accel is better

    • @epic10l2gaming6
      @epic10l2gaming6 2 года назад +1

      You forgot about engineer has flying detection!And doesn’t has stupid targetting!In statistics it’s better!

  • @pronoob5259
    @pronoob5259 2 года назад +30

    tower defense is pay to lose

  • @Cosplay_Enjoyer
    @Cosplay_Enjoyer 2 года назад +49

    8:22 john sounds like he is evolving into a demon

    • @cloudy8902
      @cloudy8902 2 года назад +5

      Ishowspeed took control

    • @insertpng6289
      @insertpng6289 2 года назад +1

      Devolving* monke better than demon. Monke must rip and tear demon, any transformation would be devolution

    • @deadwrong283
      @deadwrong283 2 года назад +1

      I am dying of laughter

    • @TheCookerLuk
      @TheCookerLuk Год назад

      Bro has furry profile picture

    • @scooberyy
      @scooberyy 29 дней назад

      @@TheCookerLuk and whats wrong with furries exactly?
      whats wrong with people cosplaying as furries on the internet?
      what have they ever done to you?
      and why do you waste your time trying to bully someone you'll never meet again in the future?

  • @RamdmUserHere
    @RamdmUserHere 2 года назад +302

    honestly if they just added sentries having hidden detection oh a higher level it'd be "ok" against hiddens (depends what level they get it) and if they doubled engineer's fire rate, that would make it a decent amount better just cause then it could be a reasonable early and mid tower, and letting the sentries being effected by commander, that would be op but for almost double the price it needs to be, the sheild will help, although since they're considered units it might be a bit harder (aka take longer if they even consider this)

    • @howardhi2773
      @howardhi2773 2 года назад +7

      u mean halve the engineer's fire rate

    • @RamdmUserHere
      @RamdmUserHere 2 года назад

      ye my bad

    • @cfor9971
      @cfor9971 2 года назад +3

      Sentrys are bots why no hidden detiction dosent mean sense

    • @christinasantos4182
      @christinasantos4182 2 года назад +10

      @@cfor9971 its just like tf2, sentry cant see invisible spies

    • @the-db9bn
      @the-db9bn 2 года назад

      @@christinasantos4182Uber charge will probably demolish a level 3 sentry

  • @pigeonman9313
    @pigeonman9313 2 года назад +141

    the fact that engineer has more dps but is worse overall is funny

    • @firerice5650
      @firerice5650 2 года назад +20

      Most potential dps. It's measured with all sentries deployed but most of the times either they get stunned or one exceedes the time limit

    • @Sebastian-dw1kv
      @Sebastian-dw1kv 2 года назад

      lol no have has more dps and if sentries get stunned they dissapaear and theres time limit lol

    • @eaaeaa9558
      @eaaeaa9558 2 года назад +5

      Engineer > Accelerator
      Accelerator does 300~ dps
      Engineer does 450~ dps
      Engineer does 50% more dps.
      Accelerator costs $43,000 to max.
      Engineer costs $54,000~ to max.
      Accelerator with 300 dps, multipled by 8, 2400. 2400 dps for $344,000. That's $143,000~ per 1,000 DPS.
      Engineer with 450 dps, multiplied by 6, 2700. 2700 dps for $324,000~. That's $120,000~ per 1,000 DPS.
      Engineer is more cost efficient, plus no charge up.
      Another thing is:
      You can use engineer for early game just fine, but can you use Accelerator for early game? No!
      The charge time is too unreliable in early game.

    • @VTpier
      @VTpier 2 года назад +31

      @@eaaeaa9558 sounds like skill issue 🗿

    • @filya303
      @filya303 2 года назад +1

      haha engineer SUCKS

  • @yeejkoobyang1692
    @yeejkoobyang1692 Год назад +5

    8:23 edit(0.25😂😂😂)

  • @scout447
    @scout447 2 года назад +37

    Looking back at this video, people dont seem to notice the fact that engineer and accel are meant to be used in unison to make them both better and making a win way easier then just one of the other, since their cons contrasts with the other's pros, and after all of that, i still think that engineer should be a 2.5k gem tower.

    • @HamstaRoblox
      @HamstaRoblox 2 года назад

      rn engineer has a dps of 400+ and accelerator has 328 dps on max and minimum 240

    • @Superstars6421
      @Superstars6421 2 года назад

      I totally agree

    • @eybrr8928
      @eybrr8928 2 года назад +6

      ah yes using 2 extremely expensive late game towers in unison

    • @bnd780
      @bnd780 Год назад

      That money doesn't magically appear

    • @dansmith6300
      @dansmith6300 Год назад

      That's a stupid argument considering accel can win on its own. The fact that you can win with accel and engi with supports means nothing as accel can win fallen with literally any early game tower. Hell, just accel and supports can do it.

  • @poluefemus
    @poluefemus 2 года назад +81

    i like how engineer did worse with support than without support lol

    • @enroxdd
      @enroxdd 2 года назад +6

      John didnt chain with engineer but he did with accel bruh

    • @enroxdd
      @enroxdd 2 года назад

      He kinda did but a little later

    • @tartisweet
      @tartisweet 2 года назад +21

      @@enroxdd it wouldn't have mattered, engineer sentries are the main dps and they don't get buffed by commander

    • @Knightpiecerules
      @Knightpiecerules 2 года назад +6

      @@enroxdd your wasting time doing coa chain

    • @maivuong495
      @maivuong495 2 года назад +1

      I think engineer is only good at dealing swarm enemy, kinda useful to beat hardcore cuz there are so many enemies

  • @WhiteZtine
    @WhiteZtine 2 года назад +46

    They can release the mecha base that can be supplementary for the engineer. They never have towers that get buffs if both are placed and within a certain perimeter. For instance, if engineer and mecha base are both placed, mechs will be tankier or some random thing maybe spawn goku idk

    • @samcod6393
      @samcod6393 2 года назад +5

      that is a good idea

    • @therealfantaman
      @therealfantaman 2 года назад +8

      how about the same idea with military base? she has a passive that increases the respawn speed of the tanks (cus she engineer she build tank or smnt)

    • @AmITheRealMenace69
      @AmITheRealMenace69 Год назад +2

      maybe spawn goku lol that had me laughing ngl

  • @Misteramen
    @Misteramen 2 года назад +16

    In the end,Golden Minigunner still dominates in terms of spammability and universal/generalist usage

    • @Pixolotl_26
      @Pixolotl_26 2 года назад +3

      I think accel, ranger, and gold mini combo can solo all modes if no place limit and inf cash

    • @phm904
      @phm904 2 года назад

      need 50k coins to get a golden crate + not guaranteed minigunner

    • @NeerX682
      @NeerX682 2 года назад

      golden minignner is good, but not better then accel or engineer.

    • @ceplus6491
      @ceplus6491 2 года назад

      golden mini no it's better tower

    • @Chair_hater
      @Chair_hater Год назад

      ​@@Pixolotl_26 litteraly everything can solo with inf cash and place limit

  • @pytherxs
    @pytherxs 2 года назад +39

    You have to also understand the seconds the engineer spends making the sentries will add up eventully

  • @-4k1ng-88
    @-4k1ng-88 2 года назад +10

    So Enginner is 80% more expensive and weaker than accel?

    • @fafiiii_12
      @fafiiii_12 2 года назад +2

      Yes dude accel more stronger then engineer

    • @-4k1ng-88
      @-4k1ng-88 2 года назад +1

      @@fafiiii_12 Wow having a female tower makes u get scam.

    • @thefunny9
      @thefunny9 2 года назад

      @@-4k1ng-88 bro one time i saw someone with engineer AND ONLY ENGI AS THEIR MAIN TOWER SAYING "have fun losing" EVEN THO ENGI IS FUCKING WORSE

  • @jaydenjagessar2791
    @jaydenjagessar2791 2 года назад +7

    Accel is better
    Change my mind

  • @gian4992
    @gian4992 2 года назад +5

    8:22 Unleash the beast!

  • @Contemplatingspider
    @Contemplatingspider 2 года назад +6

    Nah I rather use accel I also rather touch grass then grind my life away

  • @skeletonbois5082
    @skeletonbois5082 2 года назад +2

    accel is more better than engineers I just save you 8:26

  • @fimabourymenko3093
    @fimabourymenko3093 Год назад +10

    !IDEAS FOR DEVS OF TDS! (Please read)
    You should add a skin for an accelerator as a Santa or a gingerbread man for the mini(and accel too) And a candy cane skin for the Engineer. You can make a farm skin a gingerbread house. You can also make a skin for ace where it's Santa in a sleigh, and a Chinook shin for the helicopter would be cool. You could also make ice skins that look similar to the ghost skins from 2020. I also have an idea for an event tower:
    Yeti. this tower throws rocks, and eventually big boulders
    ( he can stun enemies just like the warden), and his boulder can go through multiple enemies just like the archer. ( Yeti is relatively bigger than the other towers and has a cool idle animation)
    Another cool tower I was thinking of was: Gladiatrix this tower has a trident and a net. She can make enemies stuck, and poke them with her trident (she can throw it when they are far away).
    Thank you :)
    fima100

  • @michaelprimer3183
    @michaelprimer3183 2 года назад +14

    The engineer should have lower price than accelerator like 1000 gems or 1500 gems

    • @MisteriusKW5
      @MisteriusKW5 2 года назад +4

      yes I'm regret buy Engineer I still use Accelerator Bc Better

    • @meatbaIls
      @meatbaIls 2 года назад

      hell naw man make it a bit higher cause that would make anyone who bought engi rage

    • @MisteriusKW5
      @MisteriusKW5 2 года назад

      @@meatbaIls yes I alr buy Engineer in first event start I'm grind 18 Hours for Engineer and yes Engineer look like MAFIA but he's Can spawn sentry but sentry will destroy if boss or Major boss stun 🙁

    • @user-in6fe9bh3r
      @user-in6fe9bh3r 2 года назад

      Hell NO, engineer is really good, 500 dps??? and accel with only 300??? imagine how good engi would be after the shield buff

    • @michaelprimer3183
      @michaelprimer3183 2 года назад

      @@user-in6fe9bh3r atleast accelerator have 8 placement limit

  • @icantafford_azii3502
    @icantafford_azii3502 Год назад +7

    accel is based off of phaser from tb which everyone knows. And phaser is known for locking on and dealing (from what i know) the 2nd highest dps in game. Phaser is ONLY USED FOR THE VOID and really strong bosses. Accel follows the same concept. Which is why Accelerator performs the best in the game in terms of boss slaying. However Engineer is the best tower to cover Accelerators downsides (Golden mini is also something you could consider but overall engineer is better) and it can defeat bosses at a decent rate and aswell the lower dudes very well.
    These towers should not be compared at all, rather used together to make the most deadly duo in the game. Pair these two towers together and fallen and all other modes are light work. Which is also why these both should be 2,500 gems. Even if engineer has higher dps, accel lvl 5 is also extremely op and in many things is accelerator better.

  • @battleshipconsumer
    @battleshipconsumer 2 года назад +108

    the reason why the sentries dont get buffed is the same reasion why humvees also dont get buffed becuase it has health its kinda like an attacking humvee that doesnt move even if its on the track that does damage pretty well

    • @ThisLunitic
      @ThisLunitic 2 года назад +4

      But it costs gems and the only reliable thing about engineer is her sentries which aren’t reliable in the slightest

    • @battleshipconsumer
      @battleshipconsumer 2 года назад +3

      @@ThisLunitic yes but each sentry at max level does 100 dps being able to place 2 max level sentries equates to 200 dps + the sentry gunners shooting that nail gun thing or whatever which is 240 dps compard the max level accelerator with a dps of 230 and also about the engineer thats only the max level sentries with engineer to get 240 dps and also the sentries in later updates are getting a shield it might replinish too.

    • @sir_ghost107
      @sir_ghost107 2 года назад +7

      @@battleshipconsumer did u just realise accel have 300+ dps and sentry can dia in a stomp and also sentry wont will get shield cuz devs lazy

    • @nekuggames1607
      @nekuggames1607 2 года назад +8

      Sentries dont get buffed bc they are nanomachine kids they are not humans they are machines

    • @Knightpiecerules
      @Knightpiecerules 2 года назад

      @@nekuggames1607 yet again.. tell that to the turret

  • @itswalt
    @itswalt 2 года назад +3

    Noob simp for accel while I'm here chilling with my Minigunner and won every matches

  • @WhiteZtine
    @WhiteZtine 2 года назад +10

    They can either reduce its price a bit gemwise or balance its upgrades and add some abilities. If they didn't do that, then you only have bragging rights for owning it.

    • @BuckStinks
      @BuckStinks 2 года назад +1

      I think it's far too late for reducing the price at this point due to the fact that people have already spent robux (and their time) getting this tower. All they can do, gem-wise, is increase the amount of gems you get from Hardcore, which they apparently already are doing (only for the triumph though).
      Personally, I think that as soon as the sentries are able to get buffed by the commander, that will make the price of 4500 gems much more worth it, although we will most likely never see this happen due to the sheer destruction they will do at that point. The sentries seem to excel the accelerators (without commander buffs) in terms of DPS when fighting against enemies who do not stun, who the hell cares about that though, the minigunner can do the same thing lol
      Oh and yes, I am writing this because I have The Engineer. While I do not regret my purchase (as there is nothing else I can spend my gems on), I am definitely quite disappointed that this tower is overpriced yet doesn't even surpass the Accelerator in terms of DPS. At the moment it's just there for bragging rights, as you said.

    • @clownwithpoo
      @clownwithpoo Год назад

      the video isnt about price its about how good it is and its too late for reducing price now

  • @vulture6068
    @vulture6068 2 года назад +6

    Engi sucks for a desperate "last-stand," because not only is it outrageously expensive, but it takes time for it to reach it's full damage potential (it has to shoot enemies before it can build a fortress of sentries). Engis aren't great for selling and replacing.

  • @reconsider3735
    @reconsider3735 2 года назад +60

    accel is a tower that specialises in powerful, single target dps. its early levels suck pretty badly, but its later levels, more specifically level 5, have incredible dps that is unrivalled by anything else in the game. In order to combat this godly power, accelerator has a charge up which not only weakens its power against faster enemies, but also against stuns. It goes very well with supports and is a late game tower with an expensive cost and weak early game. Engineer on the other hand is pretty good at all stages of the game. it does have some weak categories, such as how it doesn't go well with supports or how it has pretty weak hidden detection. However, it speciallises in being an all around tower, useful for every mode. It has adaptive dps, meaning the more damage it deals, the higher its dps rises, eventually reaching a whopping 450 dps. Despite the many upsides of engie, most people hate on it for costing a lot and "being worse than accel" completely ignoring the flaws of accel because clearly, all we care about is max level dps.

    • @teqnl
      @teqnl 2 года назад +3

      Accel and engi + supports is godly

    • @paradox8442
      @paradox8442 2 года назад +9

      🤓🤓🤓🤓🤓

    • @s9ir
      @s9ir 2 года назад +2

      nerd

    • @atNguyen-kl9pb
      @atNguyen-kl9pb 2 года назад

      and also that 8 accel more expensive that 6 engi

    • @Tinygelatin
      @Tinygelatin 2 года назад +1

      yes, we only care about endgame dps because that decides if we WIN OR LOSE

  • @Bcordepic
    @Bcordepic 2 года назад +28

    i prefer engineer rn but thats probably just since ive used accel so long ive gotten bored of it
    both towers good

    • @cryptain6142
      @cryptain6142 2 года назад

      same

    • @Contemplatingspider
      @Contemplatingspider 2 года назад +11

      Nah accel is better I don’t wanna grind my life away for a worst tower

    • @genjigameplays
      @genjigameplays 2 года назад +2

      @@Contemplatingspider dont forget about milicant

    • @ProGamerguy000
      @ProGamerguy000 2 года назад

      @@Contemplatingspider same

    • @genjigameplays
      @genjigameplays 2 года назад +1

      i mean, accel is better but its either u used accel for too long or ur a simp

  • @matsonjones2441
    @matsonjones2441 2 года назад +2

    I feel like enigineer is more of a support tower😕

  • @pibka5712
    @pibka5712 2 года назад +2

    Hmmmmmmm accel + engineer + Axe thrower= R.I.P all bosses

  • @RobGaming8
    @RobGaming8 Год назад +3

    yeah i think accel is better because of the cost and the more dps he does.

  • @anisumarni6329
    @anisumarni6329 2 года назад +15

    Bruh why does below make a tower that is literally worst than accel and cost 2k more gems

    • @Simply_King
      @Simply_King 2 года назад +2

      I think we all should stop trying to look for logic in Tds

    • @acs5809
      @acs5809 2 года назад +5

      Because below is gonna buff it, i think engineer got kinda rushed

    • @warmachine5640
      @warmachine5640 2 года назад +2

      @@Simply_King correct,
      Just like me, i have these cool armour and blue visors but no hidden even tho im an admin tower and yet a scout can deal damage to everyone

    • @Simply_King
      @Simply_King 2 года назад

      @@warmachine5640 damn dude that's harsh hope u get ur buff

    • @NotAlpha69
      @NotAlpha69 2 года назад

      because its a women and simp people will grind for this tower

  • @TheTlank
    @TheTlank 2 года назад +4

    in my opinion i think the sentries should get buffed by support towers and also have sentries with hidden detection

    • @TheTlank
      @TheTlank 2 года назад

      @DA HAMSTER WHO STARES AT YOU CREEPILY wdym by that

  • @ethanwang2384
    @ethanwang2384 10 месяцев назад +2

    I like when johnroblox screamed

  • @norp1136
    @norp1136 2 года назад +5

    Accelerator just built different

  • @DuoDingDong
    @DuoDingDong 2 года назад +3

    Engi is worse due to store price,total cost and the sentries dies,ik the shield update but if the Fallen king stun twice sentries will die and engineer’s limit and stages,the more stages,the more things u have to place,also accel has slightly more range also accel get hidden detection at lvl 0 AND accel can take buffs unlike engi,well engi does take buffs but the sentries/the main Dps cannot take buffs AND sentries doesn’t have hidden detection

  • @28xCB
    @28xCB Год назад +3

    looking back at this, engineer is a lot better for early-mid game. its cheaper to place and buy the first few upgrades

  • @kingadam2217
    @kingadam2217 2 года назад +2

    The scream at the end LOL
    Accelerator is cooler then engineer

  • @notCSScode
    @notCSScode 2 года назад +2

    GDI went call of duty zombies mode at the end there

  • @noobiebloxy9239
    @noobiebloxy9239 2 года назад +6

    I think they should buff engineer bc more expensive

    • @gabrielobillo2514
      @gabrielobillo2514 2 года назад +4

      They will nerf the engineer

    • @kabe34
      @kabe34 2 года назад +1

      nerf lol

    • @noobiebloxy9239
      @noobiebloxy9239 2 года назад +1

      @@gabrielobillo2514 bruh

    • @noobiebloxy9239
      @noobiebloxy9239 2 года назад +1

      Hope it don’t nerf hard or else everyone waste robux or gems ._.
      Edit: not everyone is some peoples who bought for robux or gems

  • @Dkdvsg
    @Dkdvsg 2 года назад +12

    The only good think about engineer is that it’s cheaper to place than accel but it’s much more expensive to upgrade than accel but it target first unlike accel.
    Edit: bro I have never had this many like before yoooo.

    • @Dkdvsg
      @Dkdvsg 2 года назад

      @TimmyG4222 Brother yeah everyone know that from the video

  • @LenCupH.2601
    @LenCupH.2601 2 года назад +4

    Finally, now I don't regret buying the accel than saving up for some tf2 rip-off

    • @V3locities
      @V3locities 2 года назад

      same

    • @user-in6fe9bh3r
      @user-in6fe9bh3r 2 года назад

      After the engineer shield buff you will be grinding for engi non stop, engi right now has 500 dps, even higher than accel, imagine how op it would be when the shield buff gets added(prob gonna be the meta)

    • @LenCupH.2601
      @LenCupH.2601 2 года назад

      @@user-in6fe9bh3r you are right but why would I waste my time grinding on like, hardcore for a few days when I already got the accel

    • @LenCupH.2601
      @LenCupH.2601 2 года назад

      Sure the engineer will get a buff but trust me, it will probably be nerfed in the future
      like all other good towers

    • @200iqdumbass7
      @200iqdumbass7 2 года назад

      @@user-in6fe9bh3r after the buff, (i have engineer) is still not good. the upgrades are just wayy too expensive to be actually be good

  • @Mevishavingastroke
    @Mevishavingastroke 2 года назад +1

    Engineer=a LOT of gems and worse then accel
    accel=god

  • @Kev1nTheKev1n
    @Kev1nTheKev1n 2 года назад +2

    wait why did you bring farm if you can just give yourself cash
    couldve replaced that with medic

  • @chocolover3922
    @chocolover3922 2 года назад +4

    Nice video dude

  • @vulture6068
    @vulture6068 2 года назад +12

    Accelerator's targeting functions just like pursuit. It won't switch targets until the current target dies or moves out of range.

    • @nancyhwu2160
      @nancyhwu2160 2 года назад

      still accel does better

    • @LS_John
      @LS_John 2 года назад

      Max accel can easily wipe out the enemy (unless it's a boss) so it's doesn't actually matter

  • @Neofung87
    @Neofung87 2 года назад +9

    imagine the devs seeing this video and say ok.... WE ARE BUFFING THE PRICE OF ENGIE

    • @Vernnie
      @Vernnie 2 года назад +1

      They dont care

    • @Vernnie
      @Vernnie 2 года назад

      @D Alvarez you dont get both joke

  • @djmixinator7855
    @djmixinator7855 2 года назад +1

    i spent 4k robux on the tower already so they better not change the price

  • @leonelleonel2467
    @leonelleonel2467 2 года назад +1

    moral of the story : engi isn’t worth the 4,500 gems

  • @The_Wendervour_1945
    @The_Wendervour_1945 2 года назад +3

    Well at least we know who s accelerator wife it's engineer

    • @NotIbad
      @NotIbad 6 месяцев назад

      what 💀

  • @speedyduckling
    @speedyduckling 2 года назад +3

    if they reduce the price of engineer i better get a refund. but they should just buff it anyway, it's not meant for casual players, so keep the price the same. also no one cares if you aren't gonna play 20h+ to get it, that's the point, it's hard to get.

    • @thesandwich7151
      @thesandwich7151 2 года назад

      20 hours though, a strong commitment to a roblox game of all things.

    • @speedyduckling
      @speedyduckling 2 года назад

      @@thesandwich7151 yes it is a commitment. engineer was made to be for committed players.

  • @SauliusB
    @SauliusB Год назад +3

    Now with shield enginner got from B to A+

  • @thunderryan7380
    @thunderryan7380 2 года назад +1

    All this time I been wasting my fricking time thinking Engineer is better because of the gems cost but I realized Accelerator literally is better then Engineer and when I saw it take away 13000 health from fallen king out of its range I was shocked Accel does really good damage all this time I was grinding for stupid Engineer until this video popped up. I knew my boy Accel wouldn't let me down

  • @YamatoMaru1471
    @YamatoMaru1471 2 года назад +2

    8:22 *DEMON MONKE* : Active

  • @Vezdekhod69
    @Vezdekhod69 2 года назад +6

    Tbh too many people complain about the fallen king, honestly what should matter here is if engineer is fun to use, we all play tds for fun not like we are gonna get a real life benefit, engineer doesnt need to be insanely OP to be fun and i dont think people even consider using engineer and accel both at once, you will be OP.

    • @dadif6947
      @dadif6947 2 года назад +2

      Fun is not grinding 23 hours

    • @allisonomoruyi6281
      @allisonomoruyi6281 2 года назад +2

      Stop simping for engineer
      Face it accel better

    • @Knightpiecerules
      @Knightpiecerules 2 года назад

      Idk man... Grinding for 20+ hours is not fun

    • @Asm0sday
      @Asm0sday 2 года назад +4

      is these commenter dumb? the OP said "fun to use" never fun to grind, y'all should keep cope about it lmao

    • @Asm0sday
      @Asm0sday 2 года назад +5

      @@allisonomoruyi6281 and who said eng is better

  • @bean_creature2.05
    @bean_creature2.05 2 года назад +8

    The thing is accel is more of a tank killer while Engineer is good for every category in stat for hidden detection flight firerate range damage but it does not accel in damage as well as the.. Accel and once the sentries get its shield its probably gonna be better then accel because the sentries will last longer and do the damage that it needs to rival accel in its damage. And Engineer isnt early game its used in mid or late game

    • @darktanyan5811
      @darktanyan5811 2 года назад

      Engineer suck with hidden

    • @bean_creature2.05
      @bean_creature2.05 2 года назад

      well it certainly does not accel at hidden detection but it does 48 dps per second at max no sentry's and no commander the only time where engineer does bad against hidden detection is in hardcore because the hidden boss has 750 hp instead of the 450 which I do admit that it isn't perfect for hidden detection. That's about the only not great stat it has but in general its better then accel. and when are you gonna use engineer by itself its pretty good in mid game but amazing in late game.

    • @aksGJOANUIFIFJiufjJU21
      @aksGJOANUIFIFJiufjJU21 2 года назад

      accelerator is also kind of mid-late game, but if you can get 3500 cash easily, then it could be late early game

  • @trimothy2465
    @trimothy2465 2 года назад +16

    I think the engineer is supposed to be a troop killer instead of a boss killer but the accel still does a better job at both

    • @Ulaanbasaar
      @Ulaanbasaar 2 года назад

      I like accel more but that’s not even true. Engineer is better against final waves because accelerator locks on only to the boss and not the actual zombies ahead. An accel only run would maybe get decimated sometimes due to accel ignoring fast zombies like circuits or anything else

    • @LiamArmstrong2
      @LiamArmstrong2 2 года назад

      @@Ulaanbasaar why tf would you only have accel

    • @aksGJOANUIFIFJiufjJU21
      @aksGJOANUIFIFJiufjJU21 2 года назад

      i think golden minigunner or militant can outclass engineer

    • @tizianaceraolo58
      @tizianaceraolo58 Год назад

      @@aksGJOANUIFIFJiufjJU21 BRUH NO,militant is decently good for molten,and MAYBE FALLEN,golden mini is really good,but engi has like 500 dps,the engi itself kinda sucks,but the sentries are REALLY STRONG,max engi only sucks for hiddens,so i would say that engi is good,but yeah gold mini is still good for hidden detection,but if you don't need hidden detection,engi is really good.

    • @aksGJOANUIFIFJiufjJU21
      @aksGJOANUIFIFJiufjJU21 Год назад

      @@tizianaceraolo58 dude militant could outclass engineer if its spammed
      5 golden minigunners could outclass engineer too

  • @EllisKervick
    @EllisKervick Год назад +2

    What I think is accel and engi are good tag team. Accel for big dmg but doesn’t focus on enemies in front and engi will do good dmg and focus on the enemies in front.

  • @mdsiddique7396
    @mdsiddique7396 Год назад +1

    Accel + engineer is ultimate God level, engineer can take out smaller bosses but accel is the main dps

  • @firekitty4263
    @firekitty4263 2 года назад +7

    Guys remember, although the performance of engineer is slightly more disappointing, remember, the engineer does better killing multiple towers, it also takes less time to start up, meaning the engineer can kill faster mobs but the accel will struggle a lot more.

    • @RedGoji
      @RedGoji 2 года назад +1

      Engie does better killing towers?

    • @Altrouxx
      @Altrouxx 2 года назад +2

      @@RedGoji Yeah, they kill each other.

    • @VVooshbait
      @VVooshbait Год назад

      max lvl accel doesn't really struggle killing fast bosses since the dps makes up for it

  • @Yourlocal1di0t
    @Yourlocal1di0t 2 года назад +14

    Both Towers are good on their own field, Engineer is better in terms of horde sweeping (not counting hidden enemies) and the Accel is a good choice for boss slaying. Both placed down and they can do massive DPS. If you want an easy-to-get high dps tower, best to obtain the accel. If you want to destroy hordes in seconds, get the engineer after the accel if you feel like it. But for me, I got plans to make the TF2 team on TDS.

    • @idontknowaname2224
      @idontknowaname2224 Год назад +1

      baseball warden for scout mechanic engineer for engineer sniper for well sniper, and minigunner for heavy and pyro for pyro and rocketeer for soldier?

    • @thesmileman6931
      @thesmileman6931 Год назад

      @@idontknowaname2224 stroke

    • @idontknowaname2224
      @idontknowaname2224 Год назад

      @@thesmileman6931 I guess so?

    • @Random-ky9ey
      @Random-ky9ey Год назад

      @@thesmileman6931 yes stroke

  • @Stabbant2000
    @Stabbant2000 2 года назад +6

    Engie:
    -quite a lot more overall damage
    -less maximum deployment
    -can be placed early game (not recommended)
    -more expensive to max out
    -(yet to come) 1 use of stun shield on sentries allowing DPS to be consistent when facing major boss
    -doo doo hidden detection
    -nearly 2x the price to unlock in shop
    Accel:
    -lower damage
    -higher maximum deployment
    -mid ~ late game
    -free hidden detection
    Overall Engineer is pretty situational and requires more strategy to utilize her strength, while Accel is good in almost all situations and is more cost efficient. You can grind for Engie but she isn’t a must.

    • @madnesslocura7620
      @madnesslocura7620 2 года назад

      Fun fact:
      RNG has RNG damage(25-18) and bc engineer doesnt have lower firerate and damage it would have winned fallen
      What i mean:
      Accel has 25-18 RNG damage if you just use maths (25+X damage) it could give even BETTER damage than engineer itself

    • @pitchblack4157
      @pitchblack4157 2 года назад +1

      You forgot the hardest part
      Grind to level 60

    • @samuelchinandra4430
      @samuelchinandra4430 2 года назад +1

      @@pitchblack4157 no lol grind 4,5k GEMS is harder than grind to level 100

    • @FernandoYBA
      @FernandoYBA 2 года назад

      @@samuelchinandra4430 i grinded 2.5k gems and got to level 100

    • @samuelchinandra4430
      @samuelchinandra4430 2 года назад

      @@FernandoYBA i get accel at level 200++ 👀

  • @howdoimakeausername8013
    @howdoimakeausername8013 2 года назад +1

    “bUt EnGinEeR iS a SuPpOrT tOwEr”

  • @LifeIsKaizen
    @LifeIsKaizen 2 года назад +2

    accel + engineer = GAMING

  • @cryptain6142
    @cryptain6142 2 года назад +3

    all people can argue about is the price the damage mainly matters

    • @thestrngman3060
      @thestrngman3060 2 года назад

      Yep,like grinding for 24 hours just to get bored of it right,literally the engineer doesnt even have 2x the damage of accel,+its turrets can get destroyed by stuns,not a good price even for the damage,yes it has much dps than accel,but its still not worth it for the price

    • @pachurro2762
      @pachurro2762 2 года назад

      Price to place or price to buy?

    • @cryptain6142
      @cryptain6142 2 года назад

      @@pachurro2762 buy

    • @cryptain6142
      @cryptain6142 2 года назад

      @@thestrngman3060on my opinion it’s about stats not price yea it’s hard to grind for but yet not worth it same with accept on my opinion its not worth the grinding 23 hours can be spent a lot better

    • @sssssssssss14
      @sssssssssss14 2 года назад

      The cost efficiency for the damage matters too you know:/ if the damage was ridiculously high but the price is absurdly high, like 20000 gems, you wouldn’t buy that would you?

  • @_senpaiko_6474
    @_senpaiko_6474 Год назад +4

    That's all well and good, but the trick is to combine them and deal a lot more damage.

    • @loah672
      @loah672 Год назад +2

      Ah yes, a trick where you need 100k+ cash to max all of them.

    • @nothingness653
      @nothingness653 Год назад +1

      @@loah672 100k isn't much lmao

  • @computritori
    @computritori 2 года назад +1

    LOL DUDE I GIT SUM KIND IF JAPANISE ADD AT 8:24 LITTERALY AFTER JOHN SCREAMED

  • @slayplayz9617
    @slayplayz9617 2 года назад +1

    do u k why gamepases are gone?!?!??!?!?

  • @bakerideal4797
    @bakerideal4797 2 года назад +2

    8:23 Belownatural: Thanks John! We will now use this voice line for your own tower ability in the upcoming future.

  • @jesscph
    @jesscph 4 месяца назад +1

    Engineer can now speed run molten boss since the buff for it and accel nerf make accel worse

  • @Michael19019
    @Michael19019 2 года назад +2

    Fun fact: if you put engineer on corner of the path and fill the yellow circle it wont spawn any turrets.

  • @mcdull68
    @mcdull68 2 года назад +2

    The thing we were hyped about is engineer then 4500 gems and accel being half the price is better

  • @el_rubinio3565
    @el_rubinio3565 2 года назад +1

    engineer SUCKS for its price being lower the dam price then everyone will be happy again

  • @phobia7347
    @phobia7347 2 года назад +2

    To people saying engineer needs a buff, it is getting a buff which solves the problem of losing dps which is why this video won’t be valid in the future. Nevertheless, cool video.

  • @wildraserxd7554
    @wildraserxd7554 2 года назад +1

    Virgin Engineer Chad Accel

  • @animevincy3235
    @animevincy3235 2 года назад +1

    Farm, Accel, Mini Gunner, Commander and DJ is my best team so far

  • @matthewlove6097
    @matthewlove6097 Год назад +1

    You didn’t you commanders ability with engineer but you used it with aceel

  • @xdelliott3680
    @xdelliott3680 2 года назад +1

    took me halfway through the video that he is in an echo-ey room and its not a voice changer loll

  • @wssoup
    @wssoup 2 года назад +1

    You sound like you are recording in the backrooms with all that reverb

  • @flockyguy
    @flockyguy Год назад +1

    dude i noticed that accel with no supports beaten engineer with supports xd

  • @fard5861
    @fard5861 2 года назад +1

    like you did with the accelerator and sledger, can you do 1000 engineers vs bosses and other zombies?

  • @rcplays6590
    @rcplays6590 Год назад +1

    I get that accelerator is better for dps but you would of died in a normal game bc of all of the things that went by

  • @tyxgo
    @tyxgo 2 года назад +1

    make it so if you right click on a tower it auto upgrades one time since people struggle with farms since you only get 5 seconds. And if you use it for the first time make a notification pop up with ´Are you sure you want to upgrade?´ and make a option with ´Dont show again´. But do show when they clicked no, if they clicked YES dont make it pop up anymore.

  • @kenoroblox4225
    @kenoroblox4225 2 года назад +1

    The fact that a guy with a death ray plasma energy beam gun costs less than a girl who builds sentries

  • @ademhavva5087
    @ademhavva5087 2 года назад +1

    dear john roblox please im beggin you could you add comunity into your group bc maybey phww i dont no too our too talk over buissnes I dont no man just for fun bye

  • @seek2481
    @seek2481 2 года назад +1

    8:23 that make me so laugh amd almost die lolll

  • @richardgonzalez4338
    @richardgonzalez4338 2 года назад +1

    New update in tds

  • @dededank7652
    @dededank7652 2 года назад +2

    8:23 “it awakens”

  • @fulIonnow
    @fulIonnow 2 года назад +2

    engineer..... engifar

  • @hell_maddness
    @hell_maddness 2 года назад +1

    they make engineer expensive only cause it female xd

  • @MrArsant
    @MrArsant 2 года назад +1

    Now this is why i don't want grind for engi cause ITS JUST WASTING TIME AND ACCEL IS better

  • @virastardrop7065
    @virastardrop7065 2 года назад +1

    i want the player to wait for the player in hardcore mode
    Someone Like me, the net can be bad when they join the game, they lose immediately without playing and it makes them unable to keep buying.

  • @estelacisneros8125
    @estelacisneros8125 11 месяцев назад +1

    you can won with medic and accel that all you need to win

  • @gamingpro420
    @gamingpro420 Год назад +1

    40 normal maxed mini gunners vs 8 maxed accels

  • @Will10m
    @Will10m 2 года назад +1

    Accelerator = Goat

  • @132o4_
    @132o4_ 2 года назад +1

    And Monke charges up his accelerators scream. Thanks monke for killing our eardrums faster than an accelerator kills an abnormal

  • @r4y985
    @r4y985 2 года назад +1

    John you sound like your on a giant house that has a echo

  • @Nyara_rawr
    @Nyara_rawr 2 года назад +1

    obviously accelerator is gonna deal more to the bosses because it targetting just the boss and nothing infront so if accel would be fized he would still deal huge ammounts of dps but it would be much more fair

    • @notharris3557
      @notharris3557 2 года назад

      i mean the sentrys do splash damage

  • @DriftScooterLife
    @DriftScooterLife Год назад +1

    Engineer is better to buy bc it’s not really worth all 23 hours to grind while accel isn’t worth to buy but it’s worth to grind