VALETON Dapper Bass............ got a VALETON auto wah today, supposed to be analog. I'll open te box later, nice rich wah bubbly sound.............. MMMMMMMMMMMMMmmmmmmmmmmmm
What I got out of this is that this pedal in no way could replace what I already use for these effects. Thank you very much for the review though! I like what you do, man. Keep up the great content!
Hey Dan, I'm an old fart player... I play both bass and guitar and you are by far my go to guy for video. Your videos are both entertaining and informative, and you're just a likable guy! Thanks for sharing so much with so many! For the record... I just turned 63... been playing since I was 13, and it took me 50 years to suck at it as badly as I do!
Guitar or not, we still need a Flying V bass! I had an Ibanez Flying V bass for a while back in the late 70s. I traded my brother-in-law for my 64 Gibson Thunderbird, but we traded back because neither of us wound up liking the others’ bass.
The Sonicake pedals I’d like to see reviewed are: Multi-effects: Rock Stage because they claim it can make you sound like you’re playing through a Marshall Plexi with good sounding delay and chorus, and who on earth doesn’t want THAT?!? And the Twiggy Blues, because sounding like you’re plugged into a Dumble amp, Tube Screamer, and analog-sounding reverb and delay is something every guitar player should aspire to!! Finally: ALL of their mini stompboxes! Just because we need to hear them all, why else?! Ever since your reviews on mini stompboxes I’ve grown to love them! The right ones not only sound great, but they take up so little space and are so much lighter and easier to pack, carry, and they allow me to have more room on the stage. But the best part is, when the wasted on alcohol barflies decided to jump up on stage, they’re so small that the lushes usually can’t find them to step on them! 😂
The gods would smile on you if you did a second review of this playing guitar through it - commenters all over the place say it's fantastic on guitar too.
You haven't truly experienced the bass guitar until you've played the My Generation bass fills through the Boom Ave with fuzz at noon and a hair of octave 1.
Dan you’re a killer bassist my brother. I’m looking to get a bass because our church only has 1 bassist and 3 guitarists. I figure I can sit in on bass if our regular bassist is unavailable. This is a fantastic option.
I didn't think the slapping sounded that bad. You could probably just have another compressor to toggle between. Also, I may just buy those ear buds. That's a pretty good deal.
Yeah I think I will still use my specra comp since it handles all styles with grace, but in a pinch I think I would just shut off the comp when slapping and still use it for fingers or picking because for those it really sounded good.
Yeah the compression did seem to leave more to be desired on the pedal. But other than that I'm sold, definitely picking one up for the holidays. I've been running the same SansAmp in my kit for about 5 years now, and my old DigiTech anniversary whammy octave broke/stopped working. So this'll hopefully fill out that lil something-something I've been missing. Impeccable taste and reviewing as always Dan, thank you for the recommendation.
Thanks jay, that means a lot to me! Didn’t notice you commented again, ignore my reply to your other comment. I agree about the compressor on this, for slap it is just way too heavy. For fingers and pick it is actually quite nice though.
@@GunsandGuitars yeah it's surprising that finger and pick sound so much better. I suppose slap is just much more sonically dynamic that they just couldn't nail it. Have you tried the Sonicake out with any of your other basses? Just wondering if the results and sound happened to be better or worse in response.
The Sansampy/Ampeggy emulation and DI out on this guy is worth it just by itself. The fuzz is meh, the octave is kinda junky. The comp works too hard. It's REALLY cool if your gear is suddenly broke and so are you and you have a gig tonight? You'll be really happy to have this unit.
I’m going off my 8 semesters of music theory courses I took in college for my music degree...lol. I read lots of music that had “8vb” and “15mb” written on it (especially as a bass player)
Mine is supposed to be here tomorrow, gig on Sunday. Since it is a church gig i don’t need major effects, but the ability to kick it up for up tempo songs. Currently using a Fender ‘65 Reverb pedal, but planning on using a HOF mini in the future. They don’t want amps because of the small size, so hoping this will cut my stuff carried to minimum. Wanted the Mooer volume pedal, but went with the Sonicake because of price. I will let you know how it shakes out. Recommendation for a Bass mini reverb would be nice, but I will try the HOF mini for now. Thanks for all your reviews.
Wow that's cool. It's missing the important reverb and chorus effects that I love on bass. And the fuzz and od are way too much as you said. Still a great pedal.
i think the fuzz is perfect for a Chris Wolstenholme (Muse) style sound but a lot of these pedals are missing a clean sound with eq and then OD on top of that
This is more of a sansamp flyrig alternative. I doubt that it can replace everything that the Sansamp fly rig does just because the sound out of those things are so nice. It's like comparing the Sans amp to the Behringer bass pedal. Comparable but not quite the same.
I think the issue is the chain. If preamp goes into fuzz, sounds terrible. If it's inverted, gives another taste because the input is not saturated. Octave as layed on the pedal is really used by bass players, is a thing since Boss OC2, used for a thicc sounds. Oct2 is more for sub. A big, big issue is (by my standard and experience) the chain. Octave at the end is really bad. Ideally should be Comp-Octave-Fuzz-Preamp, or even delete fuzz and change for a chorus, at the end of the chain.
I think my darkglass b7kuv2 is the sansamp killer i want. Paired with my hyper luminal ,b3kv2 and my t.c electronics sub n up.. 399.99 +199.99.169.99+299.99+75.00 (korg pitchblack tuner) so my current pedal board set up cost 1,000. More then this pedal lol not counting my isp decimator 2 and mxr mini iso brick and power conditioner lol awesome vid.. Awesome pedal too for anyone wanting a all in one solution and on a budget sounds solid..
@@GunsandGuitars I definitely am interested in this, but I already have 2 override/distortion pedals and a fuzz (I have a problem, I know. Soul Food, Tube Screamer, Big Muff Pi) but...there is always room for more.
Sans Amp killer Na. I played this through a GK rig and it sounded thin. And mind you this was with a Gibson Tbird. Ran the same setup through an older Sans Amp pedal and the Sans Amp blew this thing outta the water. 🤷🏽♂️
I was so glad to find your video on the Sonic boom, I need a good sounding pre for recording Bass. I’m a guitar player, so I guess you can call me a frustrated Bass player, and I need all the help I can get. The comp sounded great on Fingers, Pick and slap, yes it’s a bit like throwing a limiter on the slap, but to my ears in a mix it would stand out like Jaco. Thank you for the video. Also you are an amazing player. I just hit subscribe.
👍, got the Rockstage and I think of it more as a mini pedal board vs a multi effects pedal. no scrolling thru menus just stomp on the switch you want. Hope you're staying warm on the road, just got back from Denver and noticed it's getting cold over there! Take care bud.
Hey I think that any bass pedal should include a built in chorus, and reverb. I would like to see a bass pedal with Boost/Compressor>Reverb>Chorus>Preamp>Octaver. But as it has an effects loop its ok. I found on mine that the octaver does a weird modulation effect (like this guy shows in his demo). When onlt Oct1 is selected it jumps between the lower octave to one octave higher and back. 5his is not what an octaver should do. Other than that this is a great pedal. I add a chorus and reverb in the effects loop. Bass>Comp>Preamp>Chorus>Reverb>Amp/Pa.
I'm not actually in love with my sansamp... It's entirely possible I need to fool with it more but I spent half a practice session trying to fix sound problems I didn't have coming straight off my bassman... I may try this one. But the thing is- having compression 4 stage eq line out pre/post XLR out etc on my amp... Kinda makes it not worth it for me
That looks and sounds like it would pair up nicely with my DOD Meatbox. I'm going to have to order one if I have a little extra left from my Christmas bonus this year.
I like this review. So close to a great pedal. When Sonicake switches suboctave 2 to an octave up, ditches the useless fuzz, and lowers the minimum compressor setting I'll buy one for sure!
I think you don’t have to wait, if they make all those changes, it’ll be the perfect pedal and they can charge $500 for it. Get one now for $99 and don’t look back.
Dan, have to say. You're saving me a lot of bucks and heartache to figure out what cheap clone pedals to stock. For a lil country (NZ) with no direct amazon route, I can be their Amazon 😍 lol. I used to just stock Rowin but really the donner and sonicake multis (and let's face it they aren't a zoom 505, we can unhate multis now) are a good future plan right there.
I hate multi’s still, but I like Sonicake’s take on it. Only 4 effects with 4 foot switches. No paging through hundreds of effects, blending them together, programming banks, etc. too hard to tweak that stuff on the fly. I like to be able to bend down and tweak a knob a tad to make a small adjustment. That’s all.
I won't say I hate multis but I do hate dealing with them and trying to dial in my sound is a total pain. But, you mention the Zoom 505. I have a 506 for bass. One thing I have to give it a plus for is the octave generator. You can play full chords through this unit, guitar, bass, even CD's and such and it picks the lowest note and harmonizes a perfect octave down. No glitches that I could hear. I would love to have that as a separate pedal. None of my more expensive pedals could pull that off.
I'm almost 50 years old, and have been playing bass since 1985. I've owned or tried out via borrowing, just about EVERY bass effect/pedal that's ever been made. The BEST purchase I've EVER made on bass effects is the Zoom B3n Multi-Effects processor. Buy one of those, and check it out in detail. It won't be long before you make a video on it, and you'll gush about it through the whole presentation. Trust me.......get one, and you'll be nothing but impressed. :-)
I personally agree with you fully. B3n has so many options that can be configured in so many different ways. I find new sounds it can produce, everytime I turn it on. Adds an increased fun factor to practice, and thoroughly impresses at jam sessions. Jmho
I think that sonicake pedals is a must if you are gigging everywhere but yeah that illuminated knob will obscure your view about which knob is labelled in a darkened room.
Awesome demo, dan...the effects sounded pretty cool. I did like how preamp sounded with the fuzz. it sounded pretty heavy. \m/ if it has a chorus effect, I'd buy one. other than that, I'd buy it along with a joyo or mooer chorus and flanger pedals to complete my set-up. also that schecter stiletto stealth sounded killer. I've actually tried out the 4-string version a few months ago and I really like how it sounded. I am thinking about getting the 5-string version of that bass. that or a sterling sub ray 5.
I bought this after I saw your video. I agree, there are some minor issues with this pedal, especially when I match it against other pedals. The Pre-Amp is great for my silvertone and bassman because these amps do not have a mid level. This helps give these amps a bit more adjustment, when dialing the mid down and up. I do like the octave settings. Overall - I only paid under $70.00 for this pedal and I will use it for my practice travel gear. I still have not matched this against my sans-amp pedal yet. I will have to tryout some of their other pieces, I just wish the guitar pedals had an XLR out as well....might need to break out the drill and soldering iron for those????
Great review, thanks. I was seriously tempted, but no. If they lost the fuzz and added a tuner, and an octave up, I'd have snapped one up. Would have been the perfect one stop shop, but as it stands I'd still have to have two more separate pedals, which defeats the point.
I didn’t have much luck with the preamp on or off using the compressor for slap. But the compressor really complimented the preamp for fingers and picking.
As a touring/recording musician in a wheelchair for almost 40 yrs, continue to learn from others and constantly look for equipment that makes my stage and studio time run smoothly... you seem to have pointed into the direction of a good tool. Do you know if they ship to Canada? I presently use a GT-1B multi-effect from Boss, but wanted something straight forward. I think how this one is built, the Sonicake could be strapped to the front of my chair on the frame beside my knee so I can operate it with my hand, by use of a wireless. Just might work for me. TY bass brother Daryl 'JD' Adolph Bassist for Bastard Black, Cyanide Lullaby and the Queensryche Tribute band 'Best I Can Be'.
I've also got this pedal. I feel exactly the same as the reviewer. Not bad for a one stop gig/practice pedal. A lot of features for a hundred bucks and a steel case :)
Hey Dan, thanks for this review. I'm really hesitant about sound effects for a Bass, because I'm also not sure what is available for a beginner like me. could you do a run down for us bass beginners. Thanks again and it is good to see you doing content for groove hackers.
Have you ever tried sandblasting as a guitar finish? Fender had a limited edition years back and they looked really cool and similar to the one you did with the different colored grain finish.
I’d like to see you build your own pedal or mod one. Ds1 modded for bass sounds great FYI. I know you’re afraid your skills w an iron aren’t up to par but the only way to get there is to get there.
the octaves aren't really comparable because they work very differently. the XVI is granular (runs a buffer and stretches it) whereas the boomstick is a copy of the boss OC-2, which uses a binary counter to divide by 2 (and by 4 for the octave 2)
Wow you’re a lot more educated on this than I am. I was just using my ears and liked the low octaves on the boom ave better. But miss the high octave on the xvi
@@GunsandGuitars at some point I want to start my own pedal company so I'm a bit of a nerd about often-cloned circuits, heh. in theory theres no reason you couldn't put both circuits in one pedal and blend between, aside from maybe cost
Should have done a back to back on the compressor slap thing. I thought it sounded AOK but I don't play slap bass so what do I know? BTW, you're a fine guitar player but you totally kill on bass! If I was half my age I'd be tracking you down to start a band :) aaaaaaaaaaand, hope you have a peaceful Christmas and a blessed prosperous New Year.
I actually tried the sharpie, unfortunately it did not help (still shined through the sharpie). Might try a paint marker or like you said glue on something like a sliver of foil
I know the Black Hammer is made for a guitar and not bass. But I wish someone would demo what a bass hooked up to that bass d boy would sound like just for fun.
![Octave + Preamp + Fuzz + Compression for $100?! - Sonicake Boom Ave. [Demo]](http://i.ytimg.com/vi/safWFUtLBKY/mqdefault.jpg)
Sonicake makes killer stuff! I've got their Black Hammer pedal. High Gain + Boost + Chorus + Delay = "instant guitar hero".
Haha sounds exactly like what I need. Does it also have a “suck less” effect?
Ali Express has them for ~60 bucks
@@chrisg0001 thanks for the heads up! I'll definitely look into it.
VALETON Dapper Bass............ got a VALETON auto wah today, supposed to be analog. I'll open te box later, nice rich wah bubbly sound.............. MMMMMMMMMMMMMmmmmmmmmmmmm
i know it's kinda randomly asking but does anyone know a good website to watch newly released movies online?
Hurts my soul you didn't play the octave with the fuzz lol great video though!
Hmmm...come to think of it I’m really not sure why I didn’t...sorry about that!
bought my first bass last week and you release the perfect video for exploring some affordable bass effects.. thank you
What I got out of this is that this pedal in no way could replace what I already use for these effects. Thank you very much for the review though! I like what you do, man. Keep up the great content!
Hey Dan, I'm an old fart player... I play both bass and guitar and you are by far my go to guy for video. Your videos are both entertaining and informative, and you're just a likable guy! Thanks for sharing so much with so many! For the record... I just turned 63... been playing since I was 13, and it took me 50 years to suck at it as badly as I do!
LOL Me too.
you are my favorite review channel. this is dope
Thanks josh!
Come on we need that flying v bass, it's on the shirts. We need a real one.
That's a guitar bro. Look closer.
Guitar or not, we still need a Flying V bass! I had an Ibanez Flying V bass for a while back in the late 70s. I traded my brother-in-law for my 64 Gibson Thunderbird, but we traded back because neither of us wound up liking the others’ bass.
@@jamesthe-doctor8981 I agree!!!! I've been saying this for awhile! Lol a flying v bass with a kill switch arcade button!
Saucy McSqueeze perfect! 😂
The Sonicake pedals I’d like to see reviewed are:
Multi-effects: Rock Stage because they claim it can make you sound like you’re playing through a Marshall Plexi with good sounding delay and chorus, and who on earth doesn’t want THAT?!? And the Twiggy Blues, because sounding like you’re plugged into a Dumble amp, Tube Screamer, and analog-sounding reverb and delay is something every guitar player should aspire to!!
Finally: ALL of their mini stompboxes! Just because we need to hear them all, why else?! Ever since your reviews on mini stompboxes I’ve grown to love them! The right ones not only sound great, but they take up so little space and are so much lighter and easier to pack, carry, and they allow me to have more room on the stage. But the best part is, when the wasted on alcohol barflies decided to jump up on stage, they’re so small that the lushes usually can’t find them to step on them! 😂
"This pedal works in theory"
"You know what else works in theory? Communism!"
-Pedal works very well in practice.
GnG confirmed for communist comrade!
😂😂😂🤦♂️
Great review Dan. You are a good guy. God Bless you and your family.
Wow thanks Glenn! Good to hear from you
Thank you Dan, for introducing me to this company and their products. Never heard of them before. As always, another great video! Thanks again.
The gods would smile on you if you did a second review of this playing guitar through it - commenters all over the place say it's fantastic on guitar too.
I bet you are right Rob
this is the only channel where I feel like I'm being rude if were to skip an ad section. lol
Yeah, I kinda feel that
Whew...just as I was about to type how much I didn't like the compressor on the slap, you came back and saved the day! Faith restored!!!
You haven't truly experienced the bass guitar until you've played the My Generation bass fills through the Boom Ave with fuzz at noon and a hair of octave 1.
Like that fudge effect! Nice to see you back!
Thanks diy gene! Good to see you too!
Dan you’re a killer bassist my brother. I’m looking to get a bass because our church only has 1 bassist and 3 guitarists. I figure I can sit in on bass if our regular bassist is unavailable. This is a fantastic option.
Man, I thought it had googly eyes for knobs
I didn't think the slapping sounded that bad. You could probably just have another compressor to toggle between.
Also, I may just buy those ear buds. That's a pretty good deal.
Yeah I think I will still use my specra comp since it handles all styles with grace, but in a pinch I think I would just shut off the comp when slapping and still use it for fingers or picking because for those it really sounded good.
I just want to know if this contains a speaker sim like the sansamp through the DI
Yeah the compression did seem to leave more to be desired on the pedal. But other than that I'm sold, definitely picking one up for the holidays. I've been running the same SansAmp in my kit for about 5 years now, and my old DigiTech anniversary whammy octave broke/stopped working. So this'll hopefully fill out that lil something-something I've been missing.
Impeccable taste and reviewing as always Dan, thank you for the recommendation.
Thanks jay, that means a lot to me! Didn’t notice you commented again, ignore my reply to your other comment. I agree about the compressor on this, for slap it is just way too heavy. For fingers and pick it is actually quite nice though.
@@GunsandGuitars yeah it's surprising that finger and pick sound so much better. I suppose slap is just much more sonically dynamic that they just couldn't nail it.
Have you tried the Sonicake out with any of your other basses? Just wondering if the results and sound happened to be better or worse in response.
I've seen your videos for a while, and your playing is so much better.
The Sansampy/Ampeggy emulation and DI out on this guy is worth it just by itself. The fuzz is meh, the octave is kinda junky. The comp works too hard. It's REALLY cool if your gear is suddenly broke and so are you and you have a gig tonight? You'll be really happy to have this unit.
Nice pedal for $99, but I'm keeping my Tech 21 and MXR bass preamps.
I dare you to try it. I thought nothing would replace my sansamp. I was shocked to like this better. Still not ditching the spectra comp though
Can you say the same now 4y after?@@GunsandGuitars
Depending who you ask "8vb" or "15mb" don't exist, should just be "8va" or "15ma" below ;) great video as always!
I’m going off my 8 semesters of music theory courses I took in college for my music degree...lol. I read lots of music that had “8vb” and “15mb” written on it (especially as a bass player)
You GOTTA check out the B3 pedal if possible. Best multiFX, in that it does recording interface among other things.
Mine is supposed to be here tomorrow, gig on Sunday. Since it is a church gig i don’t need major effects, but the ability to kick it up for up tempo songs. Currently using a Fender ‘65 Reverb pedal, but planning on using a HOF mini in the future. They don’t want amps because of the small size, so hoping this will cut my stuff carried to minimum. Wanted the Mooer volume pedal, but went with the Sonicake because of price. I will let you know how it shakes out. Recommendation for a Bass mini reverb would be nice, but I will try the HOF mini for now. Thanks for all your reviews.
I dig your honesty and transparency. Been watching you for a while and your consistency is on point.
Thanks Brendan!
Wow that's cool. It's missing the important reverb and chorus effects that I love on bass. And the fuzz and od are way too much as you said. Still a great pedal.
i think the fuzz is perfect for a Chris Wolstenholme (Muse) style sound but a lot of these pedals are missing a clean sound with eq and then OD on top of that
I bought this pedal because of this video and I love it to no end!!!!
Nice playing!
This is more of a sansamp flyrig alternative. I doubt that it can replace everything that the Sansamp fly rig does just because the sound out of those things are so nice.
It's like comparing the Sans amp to the Behringer bass pedal.
Comparable but not quite the same.
BASS player here, caqnnot see the markers??? Paint it black, the marker, that is.
Informative, nice video. Makes me hungry for one!!!
Once I saw this in my notifications I clicked on it as fast as I could. Love your videos. 🔥Keep it up man. 👍
Thanks Tracy! I appreciate you!
€55,- on ali 😉
*flies away
I think the issue is the chain. If preamp goes into fuzz, sounds terrible. If it's inverted, gives another taste because the input is not saturated.
Octave as layed on the pedal is really used by bass players, is a thing since Boss OC2, used for a thicc sounds. Oct2 is more for sub.
A big, big issue is (by my standard and experience) the chain. Octave at the end is really bad. Ideally should be Comp-Octave-Fuzz-Preamp, or even delete fuzz and change for a chorus, at the end of the chain.
I agree, ditch the fuzz for chorus or a tuner
I think my darkglass b7kuv2 is the sansamp killer i want. Paired with my hyper luminal ,b3kv2 and my t.c electronics sub n up.. 399.99 +199.99.169.99+299.99+75.00 (korg pitchblack tuner) so my current pedal board set up cost 1,000. More then this pedal lol not counting my isp decimator 2 and mxr mini iso brick and power conditioner lol awesome vid.. Awesome pedal too for anyone wanting a all in one solution and on a budget sounds solid..
Ow yes, B A S S.
Edit: the video and the effects are like, really cool. You rock man
Thanks hextray! Good to see you again!
Love this review, Dan! You just keep giving great suggestions on quality gear at reasonable prices!
Thanks Tyler!
The only weakness is compression with slap. I *never* slap, pick 90% of the time, so this is a huge win for players like me.
Agreed. I find that I rarely slap these days, if I do, it’s pretty much only for a RUclips demo.
@@GunsandGuitars I definitely am interested in this, but I already have 2 override/distortion pedals and a fuzz (I have a problem, I know. Soul Food, Tube Screamer, Big Muff Pi) but...there is always room for more.
Sans Amp killer Na. I played this through a GK rig and it sounded thin. And mind you this was with a Gibson Tbird. Ran the same setup through an older Sans Amp pedal and the Sans Amp blew this thing outta the water. 🤷🏽♂️
yeah, it's probably easy to make this sound good at home. The real test is when out at a gig
@@mercedesescobarmusic yep! DI on mix... I doubt there is such a big difference.
I was so glad to find your video on the Sonic boom, I need a good sounding pre for recording Bass. I’m a guitar player, so I guess you can call me a frustrated Bass player, and I need all the help I can get. The comp sounded great on Fingers, Pick and slap, yes it’s a bit like throwing a limiter on the slap, but to my ears in a mix it would stand out like Jaco. Thank you for the video. Also you are an amazing player. I just hit subscribe.
BOOMSTICK! 😂😂😂
Seriously Dan it sounds great! A buddy has a full Geddy Lee setup and a bunch of other stuff and this thing sounds just as good!
👍, got the Rockstage and I think of it more as a mini pedal board vs a multi effects pedal.
no scrolling thru menus just stomp on the switch you want.
Hope you're staying warm on the road, just got back from Denver and noticed it's getting cold over there!
Take care bud.
It´s such a catch for the price, but I really wish the fuzz had a blend/dry knob ...
Hey I think that any bass pedal should include a built in chorus, and reverb. I would like to see a bass pedal with
Boost/Compressor>Reverb>Chorus>Preamp>Octaver. But as it has an effects loop its ok.
I found on mine that the octaver does a weird modulation effect (like this guy shows in his demo). When onlt Oct1 is selected it jumps between the lower octave to one octave higher and back. 5his is not what an octaver should do. Other than that this is a great pedal. I add a chorus and reverb in the effects loop.
Bass>Comp>Preamp>Chorus>Reverb>Amp/Pa.
It's sunday, and I'm taking my Sonic cake to church so we can worship the Lord. Thank you for this review, you sold me on it.
Heck yeah! Use it for His glory brother!
So excited to see Guns and Guitars did a review on this, always trust him!
I'm not actually in love with my sansamp... It's entirely possible I need to fool with it more but I spent half a practice session trying to fix sound problems I didn't have coming straight off my bassman... I may try this one. But the thing is- having compression 4 stage eq line out pre/post XLR out etc on my amp... Kinda makes it not worth it for me
That looks and sounds like it would pair up nicely with my DOD Meatbox. I'm going to have to order one if I have a little extra left from my Christmas bonus this year.
Thank you for your comprehensive review!
Have that same bass and looking at that pedal.....thanks for making my decision much easier!!!
I like this review. So close to a great pedal. When Sonicake switches suboctave 2 to an octave up, ditches the useless fuzz, and lowers the minimum compressor setting I'll buy one for sure!
I think you don’t have to wait, if they make all those changes, it’ll be the perfect pedal and they can charge $500 for it. Get one now for $99 and don’t look back.
@@GunsandGuitars Good point!
Great review. Thanks!
Dan, have to say. You're saving me a lot of bucks and heartache to figure out what cheap clone pedals to stock. For a lil country (NZ) with no direct amazon route, I can be their Amazon 😍 lol.
I used to just stock Rowin but really the donner and sonicake multis (and let's face it they aren't a zoom 505, we can unhate multis now) are a good future plan right there.
I hate multi’s still, but I like Sonicake’s take on it. Only 4 effects with 4 foot switches. No paging through hundreds of effects, blending them together, programming banks, etc. too hard to tweak that stuff on the fly. I like to be able to bend down and tweak a knob a tad to make a small adjustment. That’s all.
I won't say I hate multis but I do hate dealing with them and trying to dial in my sound is a total pain.
But, you mention the Zoom 505. I have a 506 for bass. One thing I have to give it a plus for is the octave generator.
You can play full chords through this unit, guitar, bass, even CD's and such and it picks the lowest note and harmonizes a perfect octave down.
No glitches that I could hear. I would love to have that as a separate pedal. None of my more expensive pedals could pull that off.
I'm almost 50 years old, and have been playing bass since 1985.
I've owned or tried out via borrowing, just about EVERY bass effect/pedal that's ever been made.
The BEST purchase I've EVER made on bass effects is the Zoom B3n Multi-Effects processor.
Buy one of those, and check it out in detail.
It won't be long before you make a video on it, and you'll gush about it through the whole presentation.
Trust me.......get one, and you'll be nothing but impressed. :-)
I personally agree with you fully. B3n has so many options that can be configured in so many different ways. I find new sounds it can produce, everytime I turn it on. Adds an increased fun factor to practice, and thoroughly impresses at jam sessions. Jmho
Did you try fuzz + octave? Did tracking suffer? Usually, octave is before fuzz in the chain...
Same question
I think that sonicake pedals is a must if you are gigging everywhere but yeah that illuminated knob will obscure your view about which knob is labelled in a darkened room.
Yeah it really simplifies the setup quite a bit
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Awesome demo, dan...the effects sounded pretty cool. I did like how preamp sounded with the fuzz. it sounded pretty heavy. \m/ if it has a chorus effect, I'd buy one. other than that, I'd buy it along with a joyo or mooer chorus and flanger pedals to complete my set-up. also that schecter stiletto stealth sounded killer. I've actually tried out the 4-string version a few months ago and I really like how it sounded. I am thinking about getting the 5-string version of that bass. that or a sterling sub ray 5.
Sounds like a good plan!
I bought this after I saw your video. I agree, there are some minor issues with this pedal, especially when I match it against other pedals. The Pre-Amp is great for my silvertone and bassman because these amps do not have a mid level. This helps give these amps a bit more adjustment, when dialing the mid down and up. I do like the octave settings.
Overall - I only paid under $70.00 for this pedal and I will use it for my practice travel gear. I still have not matched this against my sans-amp pedal yet. I will have to tryout some of their other pieces, I just wish the guitar pedals had an XLR out as well....might need to break out the drill and soldering iron for those????
Have you tried your other pedals with the fx loop feature? If so. Like or dislike? Great videos. Great channel. Appreciate your hard work and honesty.
Thank you very much for this review, very instructive.
Welp... I know what I'm getting my wife for Christmas now. Thanks!
Sweet! You should get her a gun too ;)
A sharpie or black paint pen will fix not being able to see the marks on the knobs.
I actually tried the sharpie, no go. The paint pen might work.
really nice bass playing. been toying with the idea to get on bass. maybe time to learn something new.
Great review, thanks. I was seriously tempted, but no. If they lost the fuzz and added a tuner, and an octave up, I'd have snapped one up. Would have been the perfect one stop shop, but as it stands I'd still have to have two more separate pedals, which defeats the point.
I agree, a built in tuner would have made it perfect.
This review made up my mind. Have had it for about 6 months. Excellent sound but the Octave does NOT track well at all.
I wonder if you could adjust the preamp to make the compressor a bit better. Either way killer demo and great playing love the vids as always
I didn’t have much luck with the preamp on or off using the compressor for slap. But the compressor really complimented the preamp for fingers and picking.
As a touring/recording musician in a wheelchair for almost 40 yrs, continue to learn from others and constantly look for equipment that makes my stage and studio time run smoothly... you seem to have pointed into the direction of a good tool. Do you know if they ship to Canada? I presently use a GT-1B multi-effect from Boss, but wanted something straight forward. I think how this one is built, the Sonicake could be strapped to the front of my chair on the frame beside my knee so I can operate it with my hand, by use of a wireless.
Just might work for me. TY bass brother
Daryl 'JD' Adolph
Bassist for Bastard Black, Cyanide Lullaby and the Queensryche Tribute band 'Best I Can Be'.
If amazon doesn’t I’m sure you can order direct from the Sonicake website or I think someone mentioned they have a good price on Ali express.
@@GunsandGuitars TY... will check 'em.
As value for money for gigging this is incredibly good value.
Great review!
Awesome video Dan!
Thanks Jeff!
I've also got this pedal. I feel exactly the same as the reviewer. Not bad for a one stop gig/practice pedal. A lot of features for a hundred bucks and a steel case :)
Hey Dan, thanks for this review. I'm really hesitant about sound effects for a Bass, because I'm also not sure what is available for a beginner like me. could you do a run down for us bass beginners. Thanks again and it is good to see you doing content for groove hackers.
Have you ever tried sandblasting as a guitar finish? Fender had a limited edition years back and they looked really cool and similar to the one you did with the different colored grain finish.
I’d like to see you build your own pedal or mod one. Ds1 modded for bass sounds great FYI. I know you’re afraid your skills w an iron aren’t up to par but the only way to get there is to get there.
13:07 get your Adam Neely on with that octaver !
I owned a Tech21 VT bass for a bit. Tried hitting Reverb up for a used one and, well?.....
Pissed. Mos Def want to try one of these.
the octaves aren't really comparable because they work very differently. the XVI is granular (runs a buffer and stretches it) whereas the boomstick is a copy of the boss OC-2, which uses a binary counter to divide by 2 (and by 4 for the octave 2)
Wow you’re a lot more educated on this than I am. I was just using my ears and liked the low octaves on the boom ave better. But miss the high octave on the xvi
@@GunsandGuitars at some point I want to start my own pedal company so I'm a bit of a nerd about often-cloned circuits, heh.
in theory theres no reason you couldn't put both circuits in one pedal and blend between, aside from maybe cost
Should have done a back to back on the compressor slap thing.
I thought it sounded AOK but I don't play slap bass so what do I know?
BTW, you're a fine guitar player but you totally kill on bass!
If I was half my age I'd be tracking you down to start a band :)
aaaaaaaaaaand, hope you have a peaceful Christmas and a blessed prosperous New Year.
Position marker lines that disappear when lit? Draw over lines with a Sharpie! (Or Gorilla glue on dark linear pointers of your choice.)
I actually tried the sharpie, unfortunately it did not help (still shined through the sharpie). Might try a paint marker or like you said glue on something like a sliver of foil
What are the differences with the valeton drapper bass or the tech 21 bass fly rig?
I've been debating on getting one of the Caline bass preamp for a bass rig. Those seem pretty good for the price but this is pretty killer too
You gotta do the valeton dapper bass multi effects pedal. Its like this one but has chorus and envelope instead of fuzz. Wonder how it fairs
Try the zoom ms - 50g! I really think you’d enjoy it and for 100 bucks it’s definitely worth it
this looks like one i need to look at I havent started using any pedals yet
Sharpie mark would fix that tick mark issue
Sweet! I am totally picking up one of these.
Can you connect headphones to this as well as audio in for practice or do you need external speakers? All I see is XLR out and 1/4 inch out.
Hi mate, question, so is this enough to go straight to the PA even if it doesn't have cab simulation like the simplifier?
Hi forgive me to my question i really like your review demo.. im just wondering if i use this pedal for my electric guitar to earn bass sound.. ?
Yay for bass content!!!!
Set like when heard P.O.D. You too cool, man
Hi, where abouts did you have the compressor set to? I've got this pedal and I've yet to use the comp on it
man I didnt know you could play bass that good. very cool. For $100 thats a killer deal.
Why does everyone forget I’m a bass player? 😂 that’s how I started my music career lol
I wonder if there are any 8 string DIY kits that would be awesome to see you do!
Can I use it as a DI-Box? So, go directly from the pedal through the XLR-out into my PC? Does someone know?
I know the Black Hammer is made for a guitar and not bass. But I wish someone would demo what a bass hooked up to that bass d boy would sound like just for fun.
Nice review Dan ! I think they have a regular guitar Sonicake too which would be a good one to review as well. :-)
They have a few different “sonicbars” for guitar. Trying to decide which one to try!
@@GunsandGuitars "Twiggy Blues" sounds like a good one to me ! :-)
Sweet action dan. Ya got me seriously considering that
I think you won’t be disappointed