PRUSA MK4 Special Delivery by Josef Prusa!
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- Опубликовано: 28 июн 2024
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Jo Prusa brings. PRUSA MK4 to ME! Let's get the MK4 out of the box and chat about some of it's new features!
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00:00 Jo Prusa Shows Up with a MK4
01:55 Prusa mk4 Out of the Box
03:32 First Power On
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12:41 Quick Nozzle Swap
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Wow! thanks for the mention Joel! Keep up the good work! I love your videos! 🙂
hello mirage 👋
great designing skills!
For some reason he didn't mention your hotend Olympics! 😛
Heck yeah! Now that is a cool way to unbox the mk4. I have seen mk4 kits arriving with people now as well!
Hi Uncle Jessy!
@3DPN You got a shout out from Snapmaker on their 7th Anniversary as their favorite 3D printing ambassador! Congrats!🎉
Wow that’s awesome!!!
I made the mistake of ordering a complete Prusa Mk4 and an Mk4 upgrade kit for my Mk3 simultaneously. It looks like this kicked my actual ship date to the curb in line with just the upgrade kits.
Hope to see Mr. Elegoo next.
You rang 🤣😂🤘
Awesome! I'm testing MK4 these days. There are some problems but, MK4 shows great quality so far.
Anyways, I'm happy to watching collaboration joel and jocef.
Happy printing~
what are the problems?
Yeah I am in too. Everybody praises those printers. And the price. So I am surprised. Problems?
@@enosunim I've heard of some oddities with the filament sensor, but it's otherwise been a pretty quiet release, under the obvious shadow of Bambu. Personally, mine has been excellent. Not as fast as my P1P but holy smokes I've never gotten such great print quality, the nextruder is legit.
I'm wondering if you got updated firmware or not. I heard the build plate damage issue was either lessened or even fixed. I do wish they would put the first test point out of the print area though. Sooner or later that is going to get damaged. If you put it on the outside it will never be an issue. Where it is now it could be a minor issue if your print is big enough.
I think Prusa have forgotten how much better the competition has gotten since the mk3 with that proce
Exactly - my AnkerMake M5 beats the MK4 in just about everything and is HALF the price,
yea im sticking with my Elegoo Neptunes !
After years of "R&D" prusa has 4 new things
RGB LED ...sigh..
Load cell probing for level.. not exactly new but ok
Quick nozzle swap ..how often am I changing nozzles to make this a bonus? 60seconds vs 120 seconds?
Drive gear...if you are still printing slow who cares.
And also importent to remember that some of the new competition is sending encrypted data back to the mother company.
And if this company happens to be Chinese, they are REQUIRED to share user data with the state security service.
And you have no way off telling what data is sent, because it is heavily encrypted. All we know is that the file is disproportionally large for a simple problem.
@@LilApe Yes, but those cheap no name components have caught up with the higher end stuff, happens in every single industry. So now it's hard to justify spending 1k on a printer for that reason alone anymore when you have people using Creality printers 24/7 now with little issues with some tweaks
I've upgraded to an X1 Carbon, but honestly, I adored my Prusa. If I had to select a printer thats a bed slinger, it would definitely be a Prusa. The customer support is exceptional, and it simply performs flawlessly.
I own a X1 and really thinking about getting a prusa mk4. Owned a prusa mini+ as my first 3d printer n loved it!
Maybe in 5-10 years they can catch up to Bambu and actually make a working machine at release.
Nope they will keep using the first rushing costumers as beta testers!
Joel himself received 3 mk3 none working. It’s still up in his channel.
About the other features it will be swept under the carpet like the others
Looks like a great printer but I think the price is a little hard to justify the buy. I have a Bambu x-1 with ams and that has much more capability then this printer in my opinion. However, the attention to detail with customer support and proper quality checks are a breath of fresh air.
Yeah, got a P1P and I don't understand what reason there is to buy a Prusa given the price. It's old tech.
It's looking like supporting Bambu will lead to 3D printing being more closed source. Prusa has remained open source and interactive with the community, so we have to pay for what we'll accept.
@@mfreem50 that is true. I hope prusa will rise to the challenge but the mk4 just isn’t it in my opinion.
God luck repairing that when is out of warranty
Hope to get my MK4 by next week. Delivery is pretty much delayed ... however, looking forward to get my MK4 Kit and the fun building it and compare it with my MK3+ and Mini+ :)
Great review Joel! I'm waiting on the kit to arrive. I have seen a few reviews and everybody has the same issue with the nozzle poking small "holes" when it probes the bed. I don't used smooth PEI sheets anymore, I use satin and textured. I'm curious to know if the nozzle leaves anything behind when it probes on those. I'm assuming, nothing since it's coated steel.
Looks good, I wanna see some stuff from Flexi Factory printed and see how well it comes out, maybe on the non textured sheets you got. The Biker Starfish is fun, and the Phoenix is definitely a test of precision for some printers...
My build plate got a dent too. Mine is bigger. I will contact Prusa support so they can gather data.
It looks like during calibration of the first layer, the extruder tip may decide to sink into the build plate.
Until I saw this video, I thought it was my fault, that maybe I left a piece of debris under the build plate.
I have been printing for just 2 weeks and I am loving it. I have a long pipeline of projects to print so the MK4 is working around the clock 😅
One of the projects is a Tarmo 5 ❤
Every Mk4 owner ive seen has had the same issue with the nozzle denting the build plate. Really hope they fix it and don't just dismiss it as the plates being consumable
My MK4 initial nozzle touchdown is not showing surface damage at that location. It does have a bit of plastic there that needs to be cleaned off, but no damage. There are some resonances at times that make it slightly noisier than it should be, but those seem to be reducing over time. The print quality is slightly better than the MK3 and the speed is modestly faster. The load cell based first level accuracy is excellent and I especially like changing print sheets without having to readjust the Z height. The matte sheet is particularly nice. The MK4 is a highly optimized MK3 and we are looking forward to the coming software improvements like input shaping that will keep it the best in class while still being easy to maintain.
My haribo bears were a monolithic block of melted sugar. It must have gotten quite hot in transit.
Bambu lab X1 never looked so good as of now
you mean the piece of junk that makes you buy a whole new heatbed if the thermistor fails, that glues the rods and can never be serviced? Yeah looks great to the uninformed
Pretty cool that it only probes where the model will be. I only have one printer with a probe but it hits the same 9 points for every print.
That was a special delivery !!! Nice ..
allot of respect for prusa .
The way he talks gives me some elon musk vibes xD the little stuttering and thinking because his brain is going way faster then his mouth :P but i LOVE IT.
prusa mk4 seeya soon ^^
Nice machine but too bad all the other companies caught up and way cheaper. Don’t see this being the printer to get anymore. The Neptune 4/pro looks amazing. You can buy 3 for the price of one.
Nice, These printers do the job and are easy to repair no expensive non replaceable components
Perfect for manuf. With a series on the shelf
My MK4 is cranking away right now. Wonderful printer. It's a very nice upgrade from the MK3S+. I thought I was going to keep my MK3S+ unmodified, but the MK4 is so much nicer that I'm seriously thinking about buying the upgrade kit so I'll have two. I had a similar-looking "defect" on my PEI sheet after bed leveling, but on very careful inspection, I realized it's just leaving the tiniest little bit of PLA residue from where the nozzle touches. The latest firmware does a nozzle cleaning step outside the print area before it does the leveling step, and that has reduced this residue. I believe if any remains, it will just be printed over and that little bit of plastic will be incorporated into the print.
It looks like they used the Dropeffect Omnidrop filament feed system. I had one of those from a couple years ago
New video for morning coffee. Perfecto!
Josef: "RTFM people" 😅😂
NEVER!
Delivery, Prusa is here~ (literally)
I'm really curious to see a full review of this, especially one that will compare this printer with the Bambu labs when it comes to the quality of the print. Obviously being CoreXY Bambu has them beat on speed, but as a hobbyist I care more about print quality usually.
Also very curious. The p1p is considerably less money than the mk4 where I am. The P1P is 50% cheaper than the mk4...
Will be interesting to see how the mk4 settles in to life at the print farm.
On a different front, Joel, do you white balance your camera's occasionally? The A camera seems too red, the B camera seems too blue.
Where the robo dog go?
Hey Joel, just saw you on the Alfonso National Channel in the background, Transformers Premiere!!!
Great video as always. 👍🏼
It would have been useful if Prusa was delivering a sample print like Califlower so that the owner knows the expected precision of its machine. Then, it's easy to understand that your printer needs maintenance.
Paid for mine waiting waiting waiting marked as new not yet made or shipped
I myself am trying to print tires for an rc airplane with the material ColorFabb - Varioshore TPU, I have a hard time getting the top layers to turn into a nice surface, maybe MK4 can do it
I love this video. It's for the common man. And the machine is amazing.
I love love love Galaxy Black! It is the best filament!!!
the Boss man getting he's hands dirty hands up to that
we got a double JJ going on here
All MK3/4 machines need a boden tube from spool to toolhead. It solves a number of filament management problems with their feed design. #1 being jamming of the spool itself. Without it, you will randomly fail your prints or cause toolhead crash detection.
Just from my own experience I think no matter what there will always be a constant requirement to maintain tolerances in your printer. I don't think there will ever be a time when you won't need to do some maintenance, but we will eventually get to a point where it is a lot less frequent than is required now.
Yes maintenance will be always needed, but maybe with time the machines will come with more (and more advanced) devices and sensors to check every meaningful tolerance in a more scientific way, rather to leave it to the user skills, hand and eye.
Looks like you have the older version of the MK4. The cover on the nextruder has 4 screws and the R2 has three.
Yes, but it has no difference at all in function, it was just to make production faster
Now THAT is concierge service!!!
I have a MK4 on order, I also ordered the MMU3. I have very limited space, so I'm starting to rethink the MMU3 as it seems it needs a fair amount of room to work correctly. Should I just pass on the MMU3? If it is going to be overly complicated and take a ton of room, I think it will go against some of the main reasons I spent extra to go with the Prusa machine. Thoughts? Thanks!
Awesome!
When is Mr Bamboo coming along ?
I have both prusa mk3 and x1c, looking at the mk4 speed it’s just ridiculous how slow this printer is without the input shaping. It still lacks a lot of features that are present in the bambu printers and I don’t see myself going back to prusas anymore taking into account the speed. Of course I leave my mk3 as a backup but these printers are just slow. Bambu is definitely taking over a great piece of 3D printing market right now.
until they break out of warranty, then you are f***d. Irreparable USA mentality (planned obsolescence) garbage made in china
I was never a big fan of using the nozzle to probe the bed. What if you have a little bit of filament right at the nozzle?
10:10 he gives that exact example..
@@mvadu yes i saw that part.
I still don't trust that. But I guess we'll see how well that works in practice when more users get these machines.
@@NuarStanger they have literally been testing it for a abut a year and a half before release...
nice detail . hope everytechnology go better.
That’s where my mk4 went, guess I’ll wait another week. Haha
We need tpu prints ! Great Video
Why is the floating camera glitching? Is that the software video stabilization?
Congratulations on obtaining the latest and best revision of this classic printer. I've not had a chance to play with one of these machines yet, but I'm sure it would be very inspiring, especially in the area of UI and UX. I'm especially keen to see how it performs with Input Shaping, as machines with a moving Y bed present the a bit more challenge for that feature.
Thanks, Scott!
Two man praising already cold coffee 😊
Release the XL already!
I'm going to do the poopy thing and say that technically, the XL already was released... in pre-assembled, single head models.
Put as a day 1 pre-orderer of a semi-assembled 5-head model, I understand your pain.
Their blog just released some more "precise" release dates for the XL: June 19th for the semi-assembled 2-head version, and an agonizing 4 weeks later for the 5-head version. It's the second time they mentioned these dates, so it doesn't seem to change anymore. However, the release of the XL was delayed so much in the past (for quality and testing purposes if I understand right), so it's a possibility it gets delayed again. I hope not.
@@AdamSamson1991 Thanks for the update!
@@woodwaker1 My pleasure
Love seeing Jo in the studio again!
Still no touch screen 😢
With the release of the new A1 the MK4 is a pile of old Tech!
Hahaha. You’re good at jokes.
Is he bringing mine too. Week 10 on kits and week 9 on full machine.
grinding of filament is exactly why I think MMU will be far, far, far more reliable on the MK4 than the MK3. It's also why I'm kind of not doing much printing right now. I'm waiting for my MK4 and MMU3. (although the mk3s+ will get an MMU upgrade)
It's a nice printer, but definitely not great. After the XL I expected way more from a new release.
The MK4 finally caught up with all other printers that have the same features for years already.
Again, It's a nice printer, but definitely not great, especially for the amount of money you pay for it.
But it is proudly produced not in China. I hope all parts too, and metal, and ore! They say it is produced in America though. The box saying else. What next? Hong Kong?
Go straight to the bears nice!
When the MK3 came out they mentioned that we'd be able to upgrade to the MK4. I haven't heard anything about upgrading the MK4 to a future MK5. Is the i3 line dead, or is just too early to talk about upgrading?
Honestly the Prusa will go the way of the Dinosaurs if they don't pick their game up. I can't see why people consider it over an X1 Carbon which has far more features and it isn't a bed slinger and prints far faster with as good quality ,f not better but I suppose you will always get the die hard Prusa fans.
@@jayson8118 Fixability for one, being able to use standard parts to mod it or fix it, nice support, not waiting for replacements, etc. etc.
If the MK5 is not CoreXY then the company will die lol.. The game has moved on, and they're on the back foot still producing bed slingers. They might get away with it for another year or two, but beyond that no one is going to buy their stuff anymore when the market has moved onto CoreXY as standard.
The I3 line is probably dead for good, this release was more of a way to make the 150k+ I3's upgradable to todays hardware. While bedslingers were a great way to get cost down, their time is slowly coming, with CoreXY and H-Bots being cheaper to make then ever, I think the MK4 is the end of the I3 family. But, ofcourse I could be mistaken - Mk2.5s owner
Awesome as ever, can't wait for my XL to ship, hopefully we'll see one with yourself and you can pull it apart and let us know your thoughts.
Just ordered one. Hope it performs as good as or better than my mini. My Prusa mini has been absolutely kick-ass the past three years.
lol I think Joe was happier to see you than you were to see him. lol
I canceled my MK 4 kit pre-order to buy a Bambu P1P. Needless to say, the thing was garbage, and I spent three months fighting with tech-support over numerous ongoing issues, and it wasn’t until I filed a chargeback that they finally caved in and took the defective unit back. If you ever want to get something resolved with a Chinese company, play with the money and you’ll get results. I am re-ordering a MK4 .
Tell us more about the robot dog!!!!! I want one or two!!
It’s called the Go1 and you’ll see more of it!
On my machine I had the same "defect" on the build plate. I've seen a few other videos with similar results. But I realized, at least on mine, that it was actually just a build up of filament. I was able to use my finger nail and scratch it off and the build plate was fine. Would be interesting to use a USB microscope or similar and take some up close footage of it.
special delivery, but im still waiting on mine 3 months later...
I'll be interested in seeing how the input shaping is configured. Does the MK4 even come with a accelerometer? I don't see one in the packing list. I'm enjoying my MK3s on Klipper so it would be nice if input shaping trickles down to the older models if it can with the older boards.
Why is everybody so negative about Prusa, yes it slower , yes its not the cheapest. For me the most important thing its opensource and crazy reliable! Furthermore its made in Europe in stead of China.
Prusa supports 100+ employees with a decent wage and proper working conditions. That is what I care about.
I also do not understand this, I do not understand if they do not like the brand and its printers, why do they follow and watch the videos, posts and pages.
Here is my anecdote of 1 user. I have/had ender 3, mk3s+, x1c and m5.
first the mk3s+ is a fine printer but I easily sidelined it for the newer printer. (you can guess which)
When I buy a product I start with what can it do and how it can benefit me. I am not buying an inferior product because I want to make a business richer. If they succeed it's because they have the better product.
The mk4 is not much better than the mk3. The marketing of the mk4 is not the product they shipped. Showing off a single walled lightning infilled benchy is not indicative of quality. Prusa has had years of being at the top of consumer printers and rushed the mk4. We shall see if the firmware updates make it better(turn on the touch screen) Make prusa link and connect better.
@@ashleys3dprintshop Hey, well that is indeed not so good. I agree that their communication can be a bit better. (And maybe their planning.) However I buy everything I eat locally and don't eat meat. (I live in Europe) For me personally this is important. I do understand that not everybody has the same priorities or luxury to do this.
I wouldn't consider the Mk3S all that reliable with it's leaky v6 extruder.
@@brntwrmn3197 sounds like you need to learn to use and maintain your printer. Ever reached support for help? They are there 24/7, how about reaching them instead?
Who put the spool holder on? Could’ve been 3 for 3 lol.
Would love to see what they could do with a design that isn't a bed slinger.
Well they have the XL (though you could argue it isn't "finished" until the 5 toolhead models ship). In their print farms they have a smaller Core XY machine, maybe that will be the basis for the next "mid size" printer from them.
I've been looking for information on the robot dog everywhere but can't find anything any information about it would be greatly appreciated
Look up the Go1
did u use supports on that crane i just downloaded it says 21 hrs default settings
No supports!
Please share what is written on that paper note
I think Jo was still pickled from the Prusa User Group meetup in Seattle. Getting to meet him, Joel and especially Mikolas at PUG was awesome! They had a 2-headed XL on display and man, was I disappointed. It was SLOW! And there's no way to enclose the top unless you have a 3.5-foot high bubble to clear the wiring and tubes. How are we supposed to print large prints without warping? I guess the big thing going for the MK4 is the board and the ability to have more advanced features compared to the MK3, but I agree with most everyone else here - it's fairly mediocre especially given all the other options currently available. You can hate on Bambu but fact is you can buy an X1 that is already enclosed for the price of the MK4 with an enclosure that you have to build yourself, and get it far more quickly than the MK4 and without any import taxes if you're in the US. So I really would not understand anyone buying a MK4, except maybe tinkerers who want to play with their printer instead of just printing on them. And while I have had my pre-order in for the 5-headed XL since day one (something like 2 years ago!) I feel like apart from the multiple tool heads, it has nothing over my Voron 2.4 which is enclosed and takes up less room. I love Prusa Research and I think they make the best filament and slicer, but the printers are falling way behind.
Print quality on my MK4 is much better than I've managed on my P1P. The large single extruder design is excellent.
You're also getting a printer that would be $500-600 if it was assembled in China. But that isn't the case. Prusa is unfortunately going to suffer a similar fate to a lot of other 3D printing companies that couldn't compete in the race to the bottom.
Aside from speed (which isn't everything given part quality and strength starts to wane) the biggest thing the Bambu printers have is the price point and better internet integration.
@@TheFatAssCat I totally agree with the quality of the print as I do see better quality prints coming from my MK3s compared to the P1P / X1C. Speed is not everything and I do find the Bambu printers to print too fast for the hot end to keep up resulting in lower quality and worse layer adhesion. I just wish the MK4 did not feel rushed out the door in order to stay relevant. I hope Prusa sticks around because they really are the best printer company. I don't see Bambu doing things like Prusa User Group meetups, or anything that makes the community better other than just selling printers. Also Bambu's branded filament really sucks compared with Prusament. I would love to see Prusa completely move on from the I3 style and evolve. But maybe that's for another year.
They should have done a mini XL.... Corexy is the way to go nowadays
Yea, or a crossed gantry. Though on the other hand a mini XL from prusa would probably be a lot more expensive than an i3 style design.
I have a feeling the Mini is getting a new feature soon... on the comparison for the printers, it says a Farm mode is coming soon... on the PrusaSlcer 6.0 loading image, it shows a Mini with a MMU print too..
They will make a mini XL, but this is not just another release, this is about not abandoning the 150k+ I3 printers that they already sold like most brands do.
Love to see the personal delivery experience! Can’t wait for my MK4 kit to arrive. Like setting out cookies and milk for Santa, does Joe have a particular treat I should set out? 😂
Omg..do you have a video on your robot dog? I want one!
I will soon :)
Great to see Joe, wish he had told about the progress of the XL multiheads. Am curious of any idea of when the kits may be released.
No offense but Prusa dropped the ball years ago 🙄😎
How many beers did Jo have???
How many colors is the mark4?
I love the printables platform but I'm so glad I bought an X1 Carbon AMS combo instead of a mk4.
Very happy with my BambuLab X1 and the era of the Prusa printers feels a bit overdue, there's almost no innovation the past half decade. Does Prusa have anything to offer over X1? They are almost the same price and X1 has like a gazillion more features and it just works perfectly out of the box. In fact just the first evening with it I was printing absolutely flawless high resolution gears in PC with zero leveling or tuning, good luck doing that on a Prusa MK4.
I feel Prusa got a bit too comfortable with delivering almost the same printer year after year. Same as with Creality and similar companies. Prusa didn't feel any need to really innovate because their brand is so well known, and people are still buying their printers because they know they work and the customer service is obviously great.
Then Bambu Lab came around and offered a printer with 10x the features for the same price.
Seeing as people are generally skeptical of Chinese companies I don't see the I3 style Prusa machines disappearing just yet, but Prusa really need to step up their game now before its too late. The longer the X1 Carbon is on the market and performing like it is, the more people will switch over and not look back to Prusa.
And the fact that there are so many years in between the Prusa model, yet they still deliver printers with the hardware in place for certain features but without the firmware and software finished, is honestly a little insulting to the customers who pay a premium price for these machines.
I finally pulled the trigger myself on an X1 Carbon Combo a few weeks back and it's an absolute dream to use this machine. I've messed around with I3 design bedslingers for many years, starting with the Anet A8, and finally got tired of having to calibrate, fine tune and mess around with machines.
The Prusa machines are reliable, but even the MK4 is a simple design with very few features.
Bambu Lab are capturing several big groups of people with the only two machines they have. The X1 Carbon is great for people who use the printer as a tool, it's great for people who use it for hobbies who want to step up from Creality and Prusa machines and it's great for companies running print farms.
The P1P is the perfect printer for people who are just starting out with printing, it's super simple to use yet it delivers amazing results.
I feel like the Prusa MK4 barely hits any of these really.
@@NorwayVFX the copycats are all copying bambu now. they follow who they perceive is the leader and that is no longer prusa. and look at all the activity on printables now - there's a massive influx of bambu content. i'm sure prusa has to be feeling pressure now.
@@NorwayVFX creality makes a bunch of different styles of printers including core xy and belt style. Honestly they have TOO MANY models and variations that it gets confusing. impossible to beat what you get with a $99 ender from microcenter though, period.
After I saw what the X1 is capable of I was forced to sell my two Qidi printers and buy an X1. I figured now is the best time to dump them while they still have some value.
@@TMS5100 Let's see if Bambulab survives the copiers like Prusa.
Galaxy black the "BEST FILAMENT EVER " yep.
Disapointed that Josef did not give Joel his trademark blue filiament
And result after 4 mounths?
I've had my mk4 for 2 weeks every print has been perfect it hasn't stopped it costs a lot of money im getting it back print by print
4 Screw Gearbox Cover 🧐
I mean for how much the MK4 is he should personally deliver it and set it up for you.
My mom printed me in place.
YEAH SHE DID
Does mine come delivered by Prusa as well?
@@LYTC22277 Dude you are so bitter about the price, maybe one day your parents will buy you a MINI
Would like see more from your robot Doug.😮
Joel, Joel why did you now attempt PETG with that brand new machine! BTW HIGH FIVE!
the real important question is.. did he catch the flight? 😂
HE DID!
I'm definitely not printing that crane on my Kobra. Poor thing has no hope.
I want one but they are just WAY too expensive with all the competition on the market, Prusa needs to lower their prices...
Most of that competition is coming from china. Consider the fact that Prusa manufactures their printers in Czech, EU where manufacturing is more expensive and enviroment and safety rules are more strict.
@@keytron888 I don't care, they are pricing themselves out of the market.
@@cgwworldministries83 How very rational argument. Pricing is not the most important aspect of a good 3D printer. Market is flooded with cheap shit that barely works and has questionable support. If you want a good product you have to cash out more.