Rolls-Royce Phantom : You won't believe how much is really cost to do an oil change!
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Good thing your Rolex is oil proof.
Only the best mechanics work with a Rolex on.
Also, pre-filling the oil filter canister is bunk. Not needed. Its a myth. The engine is not harmed at all.
I dont taste new oil either. Lol. Its already been indentified.
Pretty sure the filter will be "filled" when you put 2 gallons of oil in there! 😂
There are comments from RainmanRay regarding filling the oil filter which caught me off guard: oil passes from the filter directly to the main bearings in most engines, thus any debris introduced in the clean side of the filter assembly could lead to a worse problem than the mere running of the engine letting it pump the oil through the filter and passages.
70,000 miles on it and it had as much replaced as a Toyota Camry with 470,000 miles... What a great machine ...
I admire you for changing your own oil. I am eighty years old and still change the oil in my four cars. It’s fun and rewarding.
I spent about 2 years at Rolls Royce / Bentley in Crewe, UK, back in the 90's. I was part of the process that was getting the company profitable so it could be sold off to BMW and VW, but that's another story.
One of the best parts of the job was hearing the stories from the Customer Service department..
So, they get a call from a woman who's car has broken down. Apparently, it was going along as usual, then suddenly seized up and stopped.
Owner: "Well, I was driving along and the car just stopped! The engine won't do anything and I'm completely stranded"
Service: "When you say stopped, do you mean nothing happens at all?"
Owner: "Yes, it's seized up completely and wont do anything"
Service " I'm very sorry to hear that Ma'am - A team of technicians is on their way, but could I ask, when was the oil last changed?"
Owner: " Oil change?"
Service: "Yes Ma'am, the oil in the engine - when was it last changed?"
Owner: "Well, I don't know.... it had oil in it when i bought it"
Service: "And when di you buy it?"
Owner: "About 15 years ago."
Service: Silence.....
Honestly, you wouldn't believe how utterly off the chart superb the care and attention to detail was in those days. Crankshafts were polished by being tumbled in broken apricot kernel shells for a week...
Happy days!
Her Rolls ceased to proceed.....lol
I have a 67 Silver Shadow, check my videos on that. It fires right up every time, but it costs me about $20 in RR363 every trip I make!!!
Just a thought. In Sweden we are never using a watch, never use trousers with rivets or a belt with metallic clip. We use a overall with hidden buttons so we never can scratch the car.
Nothing says high-class luxury like a bottle of Lucas Oil Stop Leak
I’ll bet it’s the rear main seal too
If he wasn't hooked on buying Costco oil for the couple of bucks saved, he could simply buy high milage oil, which has seal conditioners for the same effect, without diluting his synthetic oil or possibly taking his oil viscosity out of OEM oil system design specs.
I've maintained my vehicles myself since 1970. When people ask me "Isn't that a problem?" I tell them: *All the hard work was done to get the car built. A car is the end product of an industry of precision parts & system manufacturing enabling mass production in the shortest time possible resulting in a trouble free transportation device you take for granted. Maintaining it yourself requires only that you can read a shop manual and follow the simple logic to keep it roadworthy.*
Don’t own a RR, but it was entertaining watching this guy that I just happened to come across. Good sense of humor and down to earth. Entertaining to say the least.
Never trust a man who wears suspenders and a belt at the same time
Hahaha
Great video. In my Phantom, I use a suction method to get out all the oil through the dipstick tube. Super quick, simple and no mess. I’ve cut open the oil filter and found that it has virtually -o- parts / contaminants / metal in it. I change the oil filter every 9,000 miles and change the oil every 3,000. Seems like a great way that saves tons of time.
The oil filter is the most important part to replace..not the oil...if you just replaced the filter every 3000miles and topped up your oil for the next 30 you would have no issues at all and save alot of money no?
Who changes oil wearing a Rolex? A Rolls-Royce owner
A leak on a BMW...? How unusual...! 😆
I switched from using M1 for decades to the kirkland 5w-30 (Produced by Warren) about 100k miles ago. My 2006 Matrix has 207k miles and runs perfect with 5k OCI and OEM filter.
Its leaking oil because its a BMW motor.
Dreadful engineering. Volvo or SAAB way better underneath.
@@serenan920 Volvo is owned by a Chinese company and Saab is non-existent
I remember an engineer from BMW Munich tell me that it's ok for an engine to "sweat a little" when I asked why my 2002 always seemed to have leaks, especially around the distributor shaft. Meanwhile, years later I had Japanese cars without a single drop of oil out of place. Sweat my ass.
@@emekaiheanacho274 Last I heard the assets of Saab and brand name are also under Chinese ownership but with no plans to relaunch
@@harrisfogel6992 Japanese cars are the most reliable in Europe, which is quite funny
I would say he’s privileged, he has a cleanup guy for his garage!
Of all the stars you know and have commented on your channel, I find that I am most impressed with one of them. Down to earth, talks to me like a friend, and puts time and effort into what he does and how it affects others. ( You know, actually thinks before he speaks. ) I wish I was back in Henderson living again. (I meant Videobob if anyone was confused.)
I don't care about the Phantom but I do envy you that pit. I want a pit!
Love the pit! That makes life sooo much easier. Good call on the duplicate tools too.
Now I can save a few bucks changing my own Rolls oil
YOU HAVE THE RIGHT ATTITUDE WITH DIY , LEARN AND SAVE, GOOD THERAPY AS WELL . GOOD JOB MATE !!
Just another reason I won't own any BMW product (not counting the bad experience with their bikes). I bet that RR dealers don't actually use the drain plug at all, but do what Mercedes dealers do: they use a vacuum pump to drain every last bit of oil from above. Of course, MBs also have the oil filter in a housing on top of the engine so you never need to lift the car just for an oil change. Btw, my understanding is that Kirkland oil is made by Warren who also makes Amazon's oil and some of Canadian Tire's synthetic oils. Here in Canada Costco sells only Kirkland and Castrol Edge oils.
that pit you have is awesome! how many times have I just wanted to get under my car to have a look at things....
I'm pretty sure that pit cost more than a reasonable lift plus your not dealing with claustrophobics 😖😁😂👍
My guy…I wear fancy watches and do my own oil changes on my Bentley’s, too. Got a bunch of fancy cars and thinking of getting a Phantom. I am changing my own oil and keep suspension like new. Could I afford to have the dealer or shop do it? Sure I could. But…I want it done right, love doing it and don’t like getting ripped off. People are too afraid of these cars. My Bentley’s well they are basically a lot of VW/Audi. The Rolls Royce….well, its basically a lot of BMW. Your video just made my decision getting a Phantom probably over a Ghost.
German torque specifications: Gudentight. Hahaha! 👑☂️
I am a big fan of the Japanese made, instal once and done, oil change valves that make the regular oil change plug bolts look primitive. It would certainly eliminate the mess video bob is complaining about, until he got to the filter. The valve is shaped so that a hose can be slipped on easily, which is usually superfluous, might be needed with this car.
My car is very different , and has a lot of baffles in the oil pan, so I let it drain for 15 minutes. If I had bad oil seals, I would switch to a high milage oil , which has seal conditioners for that issue, because changing the viscosity on an engine with passages designed for a specific viscosity might not oil as well with thicker stuff, plus on my LS1 engine the oil also acts as a temperature carrier in areas where coolant vaporizes as it passes, and I really am not informed well enough to take critical systems outside of OEM specifications.
As someone that has worked on cars all my life, I agree with you that engineers who design cars aren't the ones that have to work on them. 🤬
Agreed, but we can't blame BMW for designing the sway bar to block the drain plug!
that was one of the best videos I have seen on cars, first class BOB great
I love your frugality. Good job. Yes speedy oil-change places fuck up. It's always better when you do it yourself. You control the narrative.
My moms always told me, if you gon change your rolls Royce engine oil, do it right cuz I’m not buying you another one
i LOVE THIS!! Icon tools, and Kirkland oil are a great value. I am happy you are using a good oil filter. The efficiency is higher on the more expensive ones. Mann is one of the best!
So cool, brother! Enjoyed watching! Sweet garage.
I think I recall that in the dim past the hood of a Rolls was locked and only the dealer had access to it.
Kirkland oil is made by warren. It’s not Mobil 1. Also you should probably check the manual on that rolls because I’m sure the Costco oil doesn’t meet the euro certifications. It’s an American spec as told by the GM Dexos 1 rating.
Now you're just trying to make the guy feel bad when he used to be perfectly happy saving a couple of bucks and avoiding professionals who might have given him the good word about his choice of oil .
Besides, If he can buy a roller , he can also afford to screw it up, but most syn oil is probably ok, if you don't have any particular goals for the car. from the looks of the car, Cosco oil and motor honey might not meet his long term expectations. Sometimes it seems like it takes some mistakes to learn how to keep old cars on the road.
When I was a Merchant sailor, I worked with highly educated, experienced , well paid , and intelligent engineers. They all went , without exception, by the operating manuals for the systems they ran. If you loose power on a supertanker and run aground , it is a Muti billion dollars mistake, Any deviation from operating specs would have to be explained in court
Love the long videos keep it up! ❤️
Thanks for the video. Very insightful. I'm tempted to buy one now.
Oil change wearing a Rolex 👍🏻😄
The way how you Paying attention to the details that’s what makes you expert in my opinion, Thank you Sir for sharing ✊🇺🇸
Nice watch, bro. Quite a display of class that matches the exquisite work of changing liquid gold on the Rolls-Royce!
That was fun! Love the oil change pit!
I have a RR Silver Shadow that's probably due for an oil change. I just need to find it amongst all the other matchbox cars in the grandkids room.
Also a true car guy loves doing their own oil changes!
Hi Bob, and thank you from the UK! In Knutsford, just up the road from Crewe :)
Love the fact you're changing the oil with your subby on!
Easy peasy
Sold my Cornish for peanuts,everything was wrong with it,could not handle it anymore, wife called it the Rolls Canhardly; it rolled well downd the hill but could hardly make it up the next one; brakes were intermittent also, sometimes i needed both feet, had new sensors, computer,more sensors, injectors,pump, cats, intake gaskets, you name it, still could not pass state inspection first time,CO through the roof; a gimmick saved the day,but i was sick of it; now i went back to my V12 XJS Hess and Eisenhardt convertible, still runs like new, i just finished the oil filter housing gasket,that was the only oil leak,and a very serious one, the oil lands right on the red hot cat!! ; a monster of a job due to the exhausts, but the part is only 12 dollars;also very easy to cut it yourself.
It's always funny to me how the BMW/Audi Rolls/Bents are so much more reliable than the OG Bents/Rolls...The "real" Bent/Rolls were hilariously bad, even when they were new. Carb/CIS fuel systems and hydraulic everything. I hated changing the cam driven hydraulic pumps in the valley of the engines. Cool vid. Subscribed.
Tip from a Swedish hobby mechanic. You have these pet plastic 1,5l bottles? Cut off the top part of the bottle, tejp it on the allankey and it will work as oilcatch when you remove the plugg. Kind of an upsidedown funnel. No more oil an the arms.
your way is cheaper, I bought an oil change valve.
Agree with everything you said bob - it’s enjoyable to look after a nice car like that yourself, you get to know the car and its condition overall.
At last. Another rolls video
To make a part that is in a vulnerable spot that if broken could destroy the engine fairly quickly out of plastic is insane. To do it on a $200,000 car is actually an insult.
you forget this is a German design, not a yank tank. That plastic probably has a service interval and torque specifications that are expected to be followed precisely at all times., so a German designer would probably think it would never be a problem. .
I like the way you are doing it you are just relaxed and you know what you are doing
Im happy for you and i think its awesome that you have the life that you do! Thanks for sharing.
Grinding that Elvis belt buckle up against that paint?........
Really? ...you ain"t changing my oil..
I would never replace the sump plug while oil is still draining - that makes it a partial oil change, with the thickest sludge left behind. When the old oil is as thick and dirty as we saw it there, I would chase it out with some cheap fresh oil oil and let it drain completely before refilling it with the good stuff. That's just my own experience - it might not be for everyone!
I changed the oil on a 1984 Silver Spur on our driveway with ramps, it was a piece of cake
I am glad that you survived the covid crisis, I last seen one of your videos when you were in Texas. I am living in a hotel since my house caught on fire bored so I decided to check out your videos, I know you're not a mechanic but I would trust you to fix my car if I had one. Is that the black Rolls Royce you had in Texas it's surely a nice car and great video.
If I had a Rolls I would change my own oil too. Ain’t nobody else gonna screw with my cars.
Mann filters are probably the best and most famous filters in Europe
I like how you turned your passion into a business making Night Rider cars and Deloreans etc. Inspiring.
I enjoyed watching that oil change Bob!
I remember a friend of my father took his RR on a drive through the Serengeti and the transmission broke. RR made the repair without hesitation or customer cost saying Our transmissions never break. You won't hear that from BMW EVER. Sad to see an iconic vehicle reduced to what it has become. Sad. Just sad.
The VW buyout of Rolls-Royce Motors did not include the Rolls-Royce marque from Vickers. The BMW lawyers noticed that and bought the rights from Vickers thus starting Rolls-Royce Motor Cars. VW manufactured Rolls-Royce cars until BMW spun up manufacturing. It was only a few years ago that RRMC could sell merchandise since all merchandise rights was licensed to the Rolls-Royce Owners Club in the USA. And that happened when RRMC forced RROC to transfer to keep sponsorship for their yearly meets.
Amen, brother... Another thing about doing your own maintenance (at least the minor things) is that it gives you a MUCH better idea of what's going on with the car. When you're under the car you can see all the minor leaks that may be too small ever to generate puddles on the garage floor. You can examine things like exhaust hangers for tightness and generally lubricate rubber items that might otherwise get neglected (yes, even by a dealership).
I'm a Mercedes guy and have been doing my own maintenance for over 30 years; I KNOW the work is done correctly, and it certainly does save some money. Haven't had a Rolls in a long time, but I worked on the two I owned back in the day (didn't have two at once, just one at a time). Of course, they were simpler back then - no hydropneumatic suspension, just dampers and springs (leafs in the back on my Cloud) - and the parts were probably harder to find because RR only sold a few hundred cars in the USA per year. Keep the faith!
I think what you were trying to say in the first couple mins. It's one of the finest rides around.
If I could afford a Rolls-Royce phantom and if I had a garage with a pit I sure wouldn't be changing the oil myself
Hypothetically , I would kick some cash down to some very earnest auto shop kid, but if it was something I enjoyed, as Bob says he does, you never have to worry about errors and the results. ..
I saw the viscosity index (5W-30) of the engine oil, and of a full synthetic type. I remember that a multi-grade oil (mineral) had something like 20W-50 with an 'SF' specification, and was quite ok to use in general purpose applications. I currently use a semi-synthetic type with 10W-40 viscosity (2001 Toyota Camry). If the car uses oil, (smokes a little) I would be inclined to go one step greater in viscosity, say, 10W-40, and semi-synthetic, rather than putting an additive as 'thick as molasses' with the manufacturer's original specification oil. You would then at least know the actual viscosity of the fresh oil. With additives, I would experiment with fuel additives, which might well completely solve the smoke problem...
I agree
Rich man doing his own oil? Never thought I'd see the day
Be nice.
Hi Bob, just subscribed to your channel Really enjoy watching the video easy, listening, great content and enjoyable to watch. I live in the UK. I work in London. There are many of these beautiful cars parked up in the basements of the Luxury apartments, in our city so sad to see covered in dust for many of us it’s just a pipe dream, Owning one, I always give way, or let them out in traffic and always receive a smile 😮 Many thanks. Peter
Great video. Had a 1962 SC II. Also had 2 Jaguar MK IX models (like the Silver clouds) Crankcase held 13 quarts of oil and was a real pain to change. Good memories.
13 gallons is ridiculous. Try 13 quarts/pints.
Hate to burst your bubble on Kirkland Signature oil but it is NOT Mobile One. It is made by Warren Oil who makes a number of private label oils.
i have neither a Phantom or oil pit but if I someday end up with both, I'll know what to do 👍
Great video, Bob!
There’s something about seeing the size of that RR Phantom that just blows my mind everytime!
I don't have a rolls Royce, a oil pan, or my own house with a garage 🥴
it looks like if you didn't have an oil change pit, it would be easy to cross thread the oil change bolt, which does seem to have some threading issues.
@@richardelliott8352 😂😂😂
The cars that seemed easiest for the customer to work on were the Japanese cars at least in the early years. Manufacturers kept in mind the owner's convenience in maintaining it. Your German joke of torquing to "Gudenteit" (good 'n tight) reminds me of the time I was going to say that but then sneezed! My friend then said "Gazunheit"😂
Back in the day i had a rich people house painting business in Dallas' Park Cities, where the old money was. At a gas station on Preston & NWH sat like a 30's something Rolls limo for $4000. I so wanted to buy it, rename my business Rolls Royce Painting, and use it as a paint wagon. HEY, DIME! My x-wife used to be one of their top girls at the Cluhouse in 2005-2007. (Indian/Asian, "Sita") My table was rite next to theirs! RIP Dime & Vinnie!
Love the self deprecating humour Bob
What about fender covers? Shouldn't you want to protect the paint?
Not necessary. Rolls Royce paint has a special diamond top coat. Even an angle grinder won't mar it. You obviously don't own of fleet of RRs like I do....
@@RSole9999 It's not that tough but this is a $30K paintjob, with 6 layers of paint and 2 layers of clear. it doesn't scratch easily.
"A couple of fat girls and some Faygo."
😂😂😂😂
Must be from Detroit?🤷
good job love what you do.
Bob, I enjoyed this content, so I'm commenting.
I'm a DIY'r till the day I die or become so physically limited that I can't anymore. I'm waiting for a youtube DIY surgery channel to pop up.
I really enjoyed going along with you on your RR service. I like the content, so I hope you post more.
Keep up the good work! 😉
Lucky you didn't need to pull the engine for the oil-change! 🙂
That car is huge and the tiny little drain plug is exactly where the bar is, german engineering I guess
Great job. Great info. Thank you
I had an '07 Aston Martin DB9 Volante for about two and a half years. I rarely drove it, so the service reminder only triggered one oil change during that period. Two AM dealers quoted $575 plus tax which, no matter how much money you might have, the idea of willingly permitting anyone to rake me over the coals never sits well. I did a brief Google search and learned AM recommends Mobil 1 European Blend (sold in 5 gallon containers). The car's 5.9 litre V12 called for 15 gallons so, within 5 minutes, I ordered the oil and an OEM Aston Martin oil filter (which I'm sure wasn't necessary) and shipped them to a local independent mechanic. All in, I spent about $150.
Are you sure that's not 15 liters rather than 15 gallons of oil?
A metal belt buckle against that expensive paint .... YIKES !!!
I'd blame Rolls for the mess. It was an existing BMW oil pan, but Rolls didn't arrange things so that it would miss their bar.
First time here! really good vid. you have my sub..=)
Regarding the mess when taking off the drain plug, I installed a drain plug valve on my car back when I did my own changes and it worked pretty well.
No surprise. I know that an oil & filter change for a Bugatti Veyron is about $25.000.
why? can you break it down,just curious,as to how that is possible
(i know that, flat out, the Veyron will go thru a full tank in 16 minutes...)
Absolutely beautiful top luxury sedan that still looks amazing today and age extremely well like it’s designed for forever.
Love the Rolls videos.
Honestly I like Rolls-Royce they're very beautiful looking cars I didn't think on that kind of luxury car oil changes were that easy it's nice to know even luxury cars still have some simple things on them still that you can do yourself
Old engine oil should be blackened, it shows that it is doing it's work & suspending particulates which then drain out.
When you are looking for something, why is it always in the last place you look?
Because when you find it, you STOP LOOKING!
Nicely done!
I like to watch your videos, nice car, nice that explains that you can actually do everything yourself, greetings from the Netherlands
want to add something for you. ALWAYS shake your new gallon/bottle of oil Before putting it in. (additives settle in bottle).
That's worrying. The car doesn't shake the sump before the engine fires up and the oil pump doesn't scavenge from the bottom of the sump
You had me at Costco!!!
A trick I have used to prevent oil running down my arm (and to my armpit) is to wrap a towel around my wrist. The towel will catch any oil! Works perfectly!🙂
Love and thank you Bob❤️❤️❤️❤️🎯!