How to remove water stains from a comic book in 1 video
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- Опубликовано: 29 авг 2024
- How to remove a water stain tideline from a comic book. Comic conservation is the preservation of these classic pieces of art. Removing stains can be a challenge. in this video, a calcium hydroxide solution is used to remove a water stain from the cover of a 50-year-old Ghost Rider 2 comic. Calcium hydroxide de-acidifies the paper further preserving it for the future.
Calcium Hydroxide bath recipe:
I follow Dr. Paul's procedures at Liberty Hill Comics with the addition of 1oz of 12% Hydrogen Peroxide per gallon of mixture.
Mix up the following super concentrate formula in one container then dilute that in a 1:3 ratio with warm water for the bath. I heat the water to 140F to ensure the powered calcium hydroxide is fully melted into the mixture.
2 grams of Calcium Hydroxide
1 liter of water
.5% by volume Triton-X
1oz of 12% Hydrogen Peroxide per gallon of bath (This may form some micro-bubbles during the bath. This is normal.
Bath should first be tested for 5 min to ensure that there is no color loss or to strong of a mixture. No more than a 30 min bath.
Why I put Hydrogen Peroxide in the bath and not mist it?
The sprayer you use, no matter how fine of a mist it produces, will cause micro-specking of the paper that is visible under an ultraviolet light. Yes, CGC uses a UV lamp. Putting HP in the aqueous bath, allows for a uniform absorption into the paper, Cover or wrap. Then once the paper is exposed to 460nm Blue LED, the absorbed HP whitens/lightens the paper.
BLED exposure
I have tried multiple wavelengths of blue leds and I have found that 450nm-460nm works best at a 3hr exposure time followed by a 3hr dwell (rest) and a 2nd 3hr exposure. I don't use a box with a blue LED. I built a multi-tier mirror chamber that can handle an entire comic (cover & wraps both sides) at a time. (Visit the Instagram for Flying L Comics to see it).
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The Blue LED exposure will cause the paper to contract and dry out. Re-humidify it and put the cover or wrap into the heat press at 155F for 5 min. Re-assemble the book. Re-humidify the assembled book once more. Re-fold it then press as usual.
Cheers!
@DrPaulKosnik Liberty Hill Comics
@ImmaculateComics
Holy moly! You made that old comic book look de-aged and brand new like it was just hot off the stands! Freaking amazing!
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That’s beyond impressive. Great work!
Thank you! Cheers!
I really enjoyed your video! Very well done and informative. Thanks!
Awesome video. Great technique for fixing this issue. ❤
That’s amazing bud! I had no idea you could do that!
Can't wait for the grader notes... I'm more interested in seeing if CGC can detect that staple manipulation and if that tool is effective as it looks.
Well now that it’s back as a 6.5 blue label that should settle that 😁. Rick Morgan at immaculate comics makes the most impressive tools please go visit them and tell him I said “Hi” 😎
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The Capable Staple Tool from Immaculate Comics (Rick Morgan) is an awesome tool. Well worth the money.
Do you think a second run would get every trace of the stain? Obviously you’d have to let it dry maybe wait a week and repeat the process? Not gonna lie that was very good! Great job 👏
Thank you. No, I think just once is enough in this case. I don’t know what the original stain was composed of. I’m going to send it in for a grade as is.
@@FlyingLComics well you know more than me so do what you will. Me, I think I would’ve attempted it just cause. I’m actually tempted to try this with X-men 99 and 100 as I have both with water stains as well. I know it was water for sure.
Fun and useful content. Nice job. Looking forward to CGC grade
@@lifeinasmrsays
Excellent video, Larry; thanks for the shout-out! I should send you one of my xylan-coated staple tools and ask you to compare it to your Teflon spatula to see if you have a preference!
Thanks Rick. Anytime I use one of your tools, which is pretty much every video, I will always link you. 🤗
Great comic ! And awesome work.
Excellent & informative video!!! I hope to have the time to experiment with this!!! Well done!!!
You can do it!
This was very informative and helped me some great information, thank you. I subbed your channel up.
Amazing!
Thanks!
My jaw dropped when I saw the final result. I have a Web of Spidey 1 that has water stains on the spine. Is that curable? If so I wouldn’t mind trying this out on it. Only costs me ten bucks and is a very high grade other than light staining. I wouldn’t dare try this treatment on an expensive book. At least not at first
Thanks for sharing. I just liked and subscribed
Great video
Thanks for the visit
Great video and thanks for sharing!
Thanks for watching!
Have you tried this with album covers? I guarantee you will get a bunch of clicks if you can pull it off!
Well, I am taking the seed that you planted in my brain and I have acquired a Beatles second album with water stains, and I am going to make a video dedicated to that. So let’s find out!
Captain Larry, even more impressive now that we know it came back Blue Label! What was the BLED protocol and did you take any intermediate pictures? How much of the stain removal was the wash and how much due to the photo bleaching in your estimation?
Great question Dr. Paul! My protocol for the BLED chamber is always three hours exposure followed by three hours of dwell, followed by another three hours of exposure. That seems to be the sweet spot at least in my opinion. Unfortunately no I didn’t take any inbetween pictures as I have the system fully automated. If I were to guess at how much stain removal was due to the washing process, I would say almost 90%. The photobleaching really just whitened the paper and did very little cleaning of it.
Great work!
Thanks!
Loved this. Subbed!
Does CGC catch this as resto? I’ve seen cases of guys doing this and getting a purple label, I’ve seen it fly through
Hi Eric, if it’s an extreme cleaning, they can possibly flag it as restoration, but that would be something extreme. I just recently made a video about two books that I got returned to me with purple labels that I cleaned myself. They were both Silver age and after looking at them, they were done with hydrogen peroxide overlays which leaves spots underneath an ultraviolet light. I no longer use this method. if I do hydrogen peroxide, I do it in the aqueous bath other than that I’ve never had one come back.
Pretty amazing fix. How much of a grade bump is it to go from a "visible stain" to a "faint stain"?
It’s currently with CGC. Hopefully I’ll have some great results in the next three weeks and I’ll share it with everybody with a follow up.
Great work! Where are you getting the polytex from and after you pat it down.. what is your stacking in the press overnight? Have any expansion or shrinkage issues? Thank you!
Greetings and thank you! I will attach the link for the Hollytex.
museumservicescorporation.com/products/hollytex-type-3257?_pos=1&_sid=d2d3f6e83&_ss=r&variant=16478525161538
As for the stacking overnight, I have changed my method since the video. After it comes out damp from the tray, what I am now doing is using my heat press with an initial sandwich of a 15x18 sheet of galvanized steel (Home Depot) , 2 layers of paper towel, the wrap in it’s Hollytex sandwich, another 2 layers of paper towels and another steel plate. Heat it for 10 minutes at 160°. That’s enough to pull almost all the moisture out of the wrap and into the paper towels and it is under pressure so it keeps it from shrinking much. After that, I put it into the blue light chamber. This will draw any extra moisture out and shrinkage will be minimal. From there, the wrap is now clean and treated with blue light. I put it back into the humidity chamber for five minutes to re-introduced moisture. From there, the new sandwich is, the steel plate, two new magazine backer boards, side-by-side, a sheet of 11 x 17 printer paper, the wrap without the Hollytex, another sheet of 11 x 17 paper, two more backer boards and another steel plate. This I heat for an additional 10 minutes and you have a dry perfectly flat wrap with no shrinkage. The reason I changed my method is that I have so much work to do and not enough time so I need to make my methods more efficient. Using this method, I am able to do a complete book with all the wraps in one day. That to me was very important. Waiting overnight was just too much . I’ve already had this book come back from CGC with a blue label. I will post a follow up video to this one soon.
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Awesome! Thank you very much!
Amazing. Thank you for sharing. What is holly paper and where can I get some? What does .5% by volume Triton-X mean? Thank you.
Hollytex is a non-woven fiber that is used in conservation. Here’s a link
museumservicescorporation.com/products/hollytex-type-3257?_pos=1&_sid=aeb8ccc0e&_ss=r&variant=16478525161538
Well, when measuring, most people are used to teaspoons and cups and things like that the best way to calculate this is a kitchen scale using grams. Whatever you mix up half a percent of that but to be very quick and dirty about it I think of it as five drops per liter , so not very much at all.
Do you have a detailed video? That includes all chemicals what paper you use as well as what the blue lighting is?
Greetings. This is the only video that I have for this book. However, if you look into the information on the front page, it lists all the chemicals and quantities. Also, I’ll be happy to answer any questions directly that you might have. As for the blue light that is used to lighten, the whites of a book and also to kill the foxing of a book. Foxing is like a fungus and it last a long time this helps in the removal.
@@FlyingLComics yes I know what foxing is. Blue light do you mean ultra violet light?
@@KISS1975 460 nm the blue spectrum. Ultraviolet will destroy your comic book, where blue light will not.
Looks great but would be surprised if cgc gives it a blue label. Maybe. Its really white.
Agree, it’s going to standout against the book too…. Purple label. Looks good though.
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So that's 300ml of straight (undiluted) CaOH? Plus how much peroxide?
Also, how long under BLED?
Not straight. I should clarify that it is a diluted mix. I will post the recipe shortly. On a flight atm.
Super concentrated Calcium Hydroxide
2 grams calcium hydroxide
1 liter water
.5 % by volume Triton X
Wash:
100 ml cal hyd
300 ml water
1 oz 12% Hydrogen peroxide per gallon
30 minutes max
Time of exposure is two 3hr sessions separated by one 3hr dark dwell time
Will this solution cause the book to come back with a restored grade?
@@mistercool8728 it should not come back as a restored grade. Unless it’s excessively white.
is it possible that in the long-term the calcium hydroxide will damage the book?
No. The calcium hydroxide provides a base additive to the paper to protect it from further acidic deterioration. Pulp paper is only designed to last around 50 years before it starts breaking down. This will stop that process.
@@FlyingLComics thanks for clarifying!
@@nae9615 You are quite welcome!
What does your blue light chamber look like? And where did you get it
You can visit my Instagram page and there’s a picture of the BLED cabinet. And I built it myself from scratch.
Where can I get that clear plastic staple tool?
@immaculatecomics
Sorry for the slow other ply, but that’s correct. immaculatecomics.com. Rick Morgan makes great tools.
Can I send you a picture of my af15 with stains to see if you think your technique would help
Sorry, I’m very tardy at responding to comments but of course yeah you can send me a picture of your AF 15. I’ll try to give you my best thoughts
What do you charge to clean
Sorry for the slow reply, but I don’t clean customer comics. I’m just providing an educational video that anybody can use to clean their own.
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great video. too bad the book is miswrapped.