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  • Опубликовано: 20 окт 2024

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  • @cochu444yt
    @cochu444yt 3 месяца назад +43

    Hey First of all I want to tell you that this is my theory! (Cochu 444) and not that of "T and me". He was just a good friend who produced the artwork, this excellent animation! to accompany my research on the sinking. Just because he made this animation doesn't mean he supports my theory! It just helped me with Graphic material! As most of us know, there was a lot of confusion between the testimonies of passengers, testimonies that left others invalid, and testimonies that said the complete opposite to others. It is really difficult to know what really happened that night, but by studying the physics, the design of the ship and trying to mediate between the testimonies without trying to make anyone out to be a liar. passenger, I tried to develop my own theory about the final plunge of the Titanic, a theory that did not leave any testimony out, but rather tried to mediate everyone to reach a conclusion that obviously makes sense and is credible, a possible reality, a so-called "theory" about the sinking of the Titanic. I'll clarify right now that I didn't wake up one morning with an idea and it occurred to me to invent a theory. I have seen many people underestimate my research by calling it "garbage" and using other unpleasant terms to describe my theory, which is much more realistic than other theories such as: ""V-shaped break" and other unfounded theories that even have the courage to falsify testimonies. Obviously, the fact that my theory is more realistic than others is not a valid basis to maintain that it is the most acceptable and realistic theory about the sinking of the Titanic, So I hope that this brief report that I will leave you below will help you understand better, or at least know my foundations to support my theory. Mmmm, actually, it was precisely in that context that I founded some parts of my theory. The striking thing is that some people said that the sea was illuminated and everything was seen perfectly, while others stated that nothing could be seen except its dark silhouette. Some claimed that the ship broke in two, while others claimed that the ship sank intact. Even people who were on board swore that the ship never broke up and that it sank intact. I have the following explanation for this: The lights go out completely after the second funnel falls; in fact, the same failure generates sparks coming out of its upper hole. After the funnel fell, amid panic and total darkness, many thought that the ship had already split in two, while those who were closer still saw the stern, And the propellers sticking out of the water. At this point, the bow completely under water, stretched with force, while the air in the stern towards it will rise, and its own weight bent the metal and split the wood of the decks. Since the second funnel fell, the total darkness caused many, if not most, of the passengers to stop paying attention to the sinking ship, for this reason, The last thing many people saw was the stern rising into the air until the lights went out, so they deduced that the stern ended up rising vertically and sinking in one piece. But others managed to see the ship break in two. The completely flooded bow stretched strongly from below, while the third funnel falls and the fourth remains Instead. When the stern falls backwards, people still on board the boat felt the fall, but they did not attribute it to a breakage, but rather to a more level final immersion, since, Finally the stern sank level with the sea, with few degrees of heel and inclination. The last thing seen of the ship was the top of the funnel still standing, and the stern mast. When the ship broke in two, the bow tore the central part, dividing the ship into 3 or even 4 parts (the central part). At this point, the bow was pulling strongly from below. Its total weight stretched from the stern, still afloat. After a few seconds, the metal plates (the double reinforced hull) It began to give way. In this way, as the bow stretched from below, it tore the entire lower part of the stern, stretching it no longer from the area of the break, but from the center. Finally, the bow came loose and with it two blocks of the double hull, which can still be seen separated on the bottom today. With the bottom torn off, the stern compartments simply did not work at isolating water from one another, which would have caused it to rise vertically, Therefore, since there were no functioning compartments, the water entered with force, flooding everything. The stern sank levelly, being at the same level and being covered by water at the same time The lifeboat deck and stern end. For this reason, when the people who were on the boat until the end were asked if it had broken in two, These people affirmed and swore that they did not, because they simply felt the stern fall, and then sink level, without rising vertically. On the other hand, the people in the lifeboats who ensured that the ship did not break up, It is because the last thing they saw of the ship was seeing it semi-vertical shortly before the lights went out, and they deduced that the ship sank intact and upright in the darkness. Furthermore, it should be noted again that many people claimed that the last thing seen of the ship was the fourth funnel and the mast. When some passengers said "it looked like a vertical needle towards the sky" they were referring to the mast, which looked vertical and high, the highest point of the stern sinking. I see that there are too many doubts and the community has a hard time accepting my theory, so in the long term I hope to make a much more professional animation about the underwater breakup And the damage to the stern after the breakup, which explains its level sinking.
    Thanks for reading everything! I hope this gives you an idea of what the last minutes of the Titanic were really like. Also, thanks to T and me for creating this animation about my theory! It really is the best animation he could have made ❤️‍🩹😊.
    thanks for reading everything! Sorry for the spelling errors and so on, I had to translate everything into English because my native language is Spanish. I hope this report has given you a new point of view on what may have happened that night in 1912! or at least you can know the foundations to support my theory.

    • @a-guy1912
      @a-guy1912 3 месяца назад +4

      I'm not reading all of that, but cool

    • @cochu444yt
      @cochu444yt 3 месяца назад +5

      ​@@a-guy1912 Don't worry! It is undoubtedly the most accurate theory about the sinking of the Titanic.

    • @simonpfennigergonzalez3154
      @simonpfennigergonzalez3154 3 месяца назад +4

      That's very interesting indeed. Is your theory based in any way on Mengots theory? Or took anything from it to develope it further? Just asking, and apologies if the english is somewhat rough.
      Btw i LOVE that Grand Staircase shot. Absolutely stunning and very quick

    • @tomemeornottomeme1864
      @tomemeornottomeme1864 3 месяца назад +4

      @@cochu444yt The ship went vertical. There is no way around it when EVERYONE said that it did.

    • @cochu444yt
      @cochu444yt 3 месяца назад +3

      ​@@simonpfennigergonzalez3154 Hey! No, I had never heard of his theory before! Wow, I've seen it and there really are quite a few coincidences! It's interesting, but it doesn't take into account the Final Sinking of the stern. At this point, I've been doing some simulations and such...Actually the stern may lean a little more, but it still wouldn't be enough to please those who love "the stern sinking vertically" I've had to deal with them since I even published the first version of my theory.

  • @LiamPayne-w9o
    @LiamPayne-w9o 3 месяца назад +186

    the scene where the aft grand staircase shatters was intensely awesome, I've never seen that before

    • @LiamPayne-w9o
      @LiamPayne-w9o 3 месяца назад +19

      also what the heck was the stern doing post break-up, why does it behave like the way how Lusitania's stern sank!

    • @TandMe
      @TandMe  3 месяца назад +9

      @@LiamPayne-w9o don't know, the theory is certainly interesting

    • @LiamPayne-w9o
      @LiamPayne-w9o 3 месяца назад +2

      @@TandMe ah ok

    • @pimuce
      @pimuce 3 месяца назад +1

      @@TandMe1 last minute of the shipwreck is not exactly 😮!!!

  • @History401
    @History401 3 месяца назад +87

    This is the first time I’ve seen the Aft Grand Staircase animated during the breakup, as well. It’s like a knife to the heart. 😭 Nice work.

    • @GabrielNeves-gf9ie
      @GabrielNeves-gf9ie 3 месяца назад +2

      O naufragio da H&G de 2023 tb mostra a aft grand staircase

    • @Nomadik_Animations
      @Nomadik_Animations 3 месяца назад +2

      ​@@GabrielNeves-gf9iesim mas não mostra ela sendo destruida pela quebra do navio

  • @Rudnaz_127
    @Rudnaz_127 3 месяца назад +50

    My only 3 problems with this theory is the lights failing before the collapse of the second funnel, the speed at which the breakup area foundered & the angle at which the stern foundered.

    • @TandMe
      @TandMe  3 месяца назад +8

      @@Rudnaz_127 yep! I totally agree

    • @olivierdochez4141
      @olivierdochez4141 2 месяца назад +3

      Well the official timeline was exactly this, Remember, between the first funnel collapsing and the final plunge of the aft section there were only 3 minutes! it seems longer in this video, but I think it is spot on, with the exception that it was less than 15 degrees, she split under water, hardly visible to most survivors and only then went up to a 38 to 40 degree angle to slip down. Remember, she did not make a big splash when she split in two, she "settled down" then rose up immediately. So it had to be a very shallow angle. The waterproof doors were partly opened to let tubes through for the pumps in those areas too, which made her stay at a lower angle until the first funnel crashed and the dome imploded. If that first funnel would have stayed upright she would have had a few minutes more and she might not have split in two. The mass of water going down the smoke stack and the grand staircase split Titanic but immediately. Sha was strong, but no steel at freezing temperatures could withstand that amount of pressure in less than 1 minute.

    • @billvanek5570
      @billvanek5570 Месяц назад

      There are a lot more than 3 problems with this theory.

    • @shellereyes3523
      @shellereyes3523 2 дня назад

      OMG

  • @teamtripledent31nextgentls94
    @teamtripledent31nextgentls94 3 месяца назад +51

    NO WAY, WE GET TO SEE THE AFT GRAND STAIRCASE DESTRUCTION

  • @rraddena
    @rraddena 3 месяца назад +45

    That was excellent although I'm not entirely sold on the final angle in which the stern section slipped under. Loved it nonetheless....good job.

  • @Matuatay
    @Matuatay 3 месяца назад +16

    This animation is an incredible work. I'm inclined to disagree with the angle of the final plunge as we have so many witnesses saying the stern went verticle, or near verticle, with one such witness vividly describing the stern as looking like an "accusatory finger pointing toward the sky", or something very close to that.
    That doesn't change the fact this is very good work. And I believe you are the very first in the century plus since the sinking to depict the destruction of the aft grand staircase, which is very well done and worth commending on it's own.

  • @alexsuarez5630
    @alexsuarez5630 Месяц назад +3

    2:04. 2:22. I loved how you included never-before-seen scenes of the sinking like in Titanic 1996

  • @emreekinci4258
    @emreekinci4258 3 месяца назад +43

    The text disappears a bit too fast, as well as the funnels' collapse and break up are too fast, and the water is glitchy, still, a very impressive animation, the grand staircase crushing during the break up is an interesting addition

    • @hen.5136
      @hen.5136 3 месяца назад +1

      also the ship wouldn't have evened out so fast

    • @changethetimes
      @changethetimes 3 месяца назад

      Can't wait for you two fuckers to do one better!

  • @PietroLombardo-b4c
    @PietroLombardo-b4c 3 месяца назад +63

    While I do disagree with this theory, I still find the animation impressive & horrifying.

    • @brianwhitford6086
      @brianwhitford6086 3 месяца назад +8

      I personally believe that the stern went down vertical. But, You can't help but wonder... Seeing that it was pitch black and at the only light given off after the backup generators went out was the oil lamp on top of the aft mast, let's just say, for the sake of argument, it might be possible that her stern DID sink at a shallow angle? And what they saw, or what they believed they saw was actually the oil lamp on top of the mast that gave the ILLUSION that the stern was vertical to the sky?
      Now clearly, there are plenty of holes in this theory , considering the weight of the engines and the keel cling-on. However, at that moment when the lights went out, it was hard to see, And the only thing that they could use to map out the ship's angle was the black silhouette it gave off against the stars in the sky. Moreover, it's been considered that the people who thought they saw the ship breaking into 3 pieces was more likely them spotting the third funnel breaking off of the stern in a cloud of sparks (Despite the Forward and Aft towers being confirmed at the wreck sight). Though, we can't say for sure and it is still being debated today whether the Forward tower broke off at the surface or just before the stern hit the ocean floor.
      In conclusion, the combination of the darkness and light fixtures on the ship can play tricks on the mind. The only ones who know how the stern went down for sure are the ones who rode her down.

    • @Nomadik_Animations
      @Nomadik_Animations 3 месяца назад

      ​@@brianwhitford6086 are u blind? This is not T and ME theory

    • @brianwhitford6086
      @brianwhitford6086 3 месяца назад +4

      @@Nomadik_Animations I can see that. I read the title. U however clearly need to read up on your manners.

    • @ChrissonatorOFL
      @ChrissonatorOFL 3 месяца назад

      @@brianwhitford6086 Not as vertical as shown in the movie Titanic. In fact, James Cameron did a documentary since then with a more physics appropriate breakup.

    • @cochu444yt
      @cochu444yt 3 месяца назад +3

      ​@@ChrissonatorOFL In that same documentary, James Cameron showed that it is impossible for the stern to fall "sloshing in the water" and then rise vertically to sink.

  • @subman721
    @subman721 3 месяца назад +9

    Fact is most of those people, DIDN’T DROWN!! They froze to death!

  • @sp1n4l_sn4p
    @sp1n4l_sn4p 2 месяца назад +3

    2:54 as interesting as this is, survivor testimonies do state that the ship pulled vertical and even swung over some of their heads as she did a 360° spin (normal for ships during final plunges to spin around sometimes)

  • @HMSPrinceOfWalesEditor
    @HMSPrinceOfWalesEditor Месяц назад +4

    2:05 This shot reminds me of the 1996 miniseries breakup. Because it also includes the aft grand staircase breaking.

  • @cochu444yt
    @cochu444yt 3 месяца назад +16

    Hey buddy! Thank you very much for encouraging my theory! I know that without a doubt you have worked hard! You have followed every indication perfectly! I am very glad that you have represented my theory in this way! Everything is correct! I have also seen the moment in which the ship stabilizes, when the port wing of the bridge is flooded and the powerful wave of water drags everything away! I liked the camera shots, the angles, the timing and also the breakage! In short: your animation was excellent! The final dive was great!
    I appreciate you very much! Besides your friend, I have been a big fan for years! I am happy about this collaboration with you, it means a lot to me 🥹

    • @lochlanmuir2291
      @lochlanmuir2291 3 месяца назад +3

      This is just a beautiful comment. I love it. One of the best I’ve seen. Same with the video. Perfect.

    • @cochu444yt
      @cochu444yt 3 месяца назад +1

      ​@@lochlanmuir2291 Thank you! I really express my gratitude to the creator of this artwork ❤

    • @billvanek5570
      @billvanek5570 3 месяца назад +4

      This theory is just like most of the others---except with the very inaccurate behavior of the stern as it is shown here, which makes this theory below average. The nearly vertical position of the stern at the very end (the 3rd plunge) is the aspect of the sinking that is most agreed upon by witnesses. That is, there are 3-5 testimonies about the 4th funnel or about the momentary bow rise, but there are at least 30 about the stern standing up at the end. And the freely floating stern---not connected at all to the bow, and having a long duration---is also well documented:
      1. She then seemed to settle very, very quiet until the last, when she rose up (Henry Etches)
      2. she broke forward, and the afterpart righted itself (Alfred Olliver)
      3. The poop is going to float. (George Symons)
      4. Stern righted itself without the bow (George Symons)
      5. the after part came up right again (Frank Osman)
      6. the after part came up and staid up five minutes before it went down. (Seaman Buley)
      7. we could see the afterpart afloat, and there was no forepart to it (Seaman Buley)
      8. the afterpart of her settled out of the water horizontally after the other part went down (Seaman Buley)
      9. the afterpart settled down again, and we thought the afterpart would float altogether (Seaman Buley)
      10. She uprighted herself for about five minutes, and then tipped over and disappeared (Seaman Buley)
      11. then the afterpart righted itself again and the forepart had disappeared (Quartermaster Bright)
      12. The after part then seemed almost to right itself and we thought she might keep afloat (Alfred White)
      13. The after part of the ship came down on the water in its normal position and seemed as if it was going to remain afloat, but it only remained a minute or two and then sank. (source?)
      14. I am sure it floated for at least a minute (John Collins)
      15. the stern stayed up a minute (Ruth Becker)
      16. the ship broke in two, and the after part came up on a level for a brief space, the bow having already disappeared (Albert Horswill)
      17. Then the ship broke in two between the middle funnels and the bow disappeared. The stern slowly settled, and at last sank (Fred Hoyt)
      18. about four or five minutes in that horizontal position (Frank Evans)
      19. Rowe agreed that the ship broke in the centre and that the after part came to the surface again after once being covered with water. (Gosport and County Journal, May 16th, 1912)

    • @IloveCruiseShips1912
      @IloveCruiseShips1912 3 месяца назад +2

      @@billvanek5570 The 13th testimony was Joseph Scarrots.

    • @billvanek5570
      @billvanek5570 3 месяца назад +2

      @@IloveCruiseShips1912 Thank you!

  • @cooldude815doesthings14
    @cooldude815doesthings14 2 месяца назад +1

    Gotta say, this is probably the best animation I’ve seen! THG’s is really good, but this one just feels so much more cinematic, and we actually see the level of destruction a little more in this one. Also that opening shot was really cool. Keep up the good work!

  • @TandMe
    @TandMe  3 месяца назад +23

    fun fact: this isn't my theory! please read the title before watching the video!

  • @alejandromonge2182
    @alejandromonge2182 3 месяца назад +4

    The music, the background OMG amazing to here with pods oh boy...

  • @NotXak
    @NotXak 3 месяца назад +11

    The stern did reach an almost vertical angle when she slipped under. Nothing like the movie lol but it did nearly get to a vertical angle. It didn’t do what it did there where it slowly sloshed below the waves

  • @josephensworth7044
    @josephensworth7044 Месяц назад +1

    Jack, this is where we first met!

  • @toddkurzbard
    @toddkurzbard 3 месяца назад +5

    Very nicely done, one of the best. The ONE thing I would criticize, is the stern not going vertical before it founders.

    • @TandMe
      @TandMe  3 месяца назад +1

      not my theory

  • @BlueTopHatVR2010
    @BlueTopHatVR2010 19 дней назад +1

    The thing i dont understand is why the stern barely rose in my theory she breaks at a 25° angle ans the stern risws to an 87° angle the physics just cant work with what their theory did

  • @parfumextraitfan7453
    @parfumextraitfan7453 Месяц назад +2

    Edith Brown did say in an interview that “she went flat down into the sea”
    It was also Ruth Becker that said the ship broke between the 2nd and 3rd funnel. Nobody believed her until they found the wreck. And even then, people tried to say it split between the third and fourth funnel. It wasn’t until very recently that Ruth’s story was proven to be true

    • @TandMe
      @TandMe  Месяц назад +1

      @parfumextraitfan7453 I'm stil not sure about the stern sinking as very many accounts said the stern rose

    • @billvanek5570
      @billvanek5570 Месяц назад

      The ship broke in front of the 3rd funnel, AND aft of the 3rd funnel. That's why both locations were spoken of. The difference is the timing. The break forward of the 3rd funnel happened during the 1st plunge, at a low angle, while still lighted---where one lady said that it split open as if cut with a knife, but Jack Thayer clarified that by saying that it was only the superstructure that split, not the whole ship. The breaking aft of the 3rd funnel came later, after the 2nd plunge to a high angle, and after the lights went out; it was the complete parting of the ship. At that time, the bow tore loose and disappeared (and the word "plunge" was used for the third time in the sinking sequence). After floating horizontally for a few minutes, the stern tilted up nearly perpendicularly, 100-150 feet in the air, and plunged down (the 4th plunging spoken of that night). With two breaks and 4 plunges, it's quite difficult to sort through what happened.

  • @cameron_nzl
    @cameron_nzl Месяц назад +2

    in no way does this stern sinking make sense.

  • @Bondek1996
    @Bondek1996 3 месяца назад +3

    1:14 oh nice, audio of Kenneth More from Night to Remember

  • @OnurKaratas-oc6nc
    @OnurKaratas-oc6nc 3 месяца назад +1

    Finally someone modelled the aft grand staircase during the breakup. I was waiting the THG team to actually show interior animations during the split but the day had never came.

  • @austinkub2337
    @austinkub2337 3 месяца назад +3

    A very good video and interesting as well. The point of failure occurring at or near the aft grand staircase is also interesting as well, especially given the artefacts found in the debris field that originated from the area. It's believed that the lounge was more the epicenter of the breakup as artefacts from the galley have been found all over the place as well. It could've very well been a multi-section breakup where it fractured in both areas for all we know. Nicely done, though.

  • @brendantv8520
    @brendantv8520 3 месяца назад +2

    This animation was so unique! Honestly, you did such a good job!

  • @mesittinhere
    @mesittinhere 20 дней назад +1

    Water pressure at or very near the surface of the ocean would be zero. How does water pressure cause the funnels to collapse?

    • @TandMe
      @TandMe  20 дней назад +1

      id suggest you check your research on water pressure again, are you 100% sure the water pressure was 0?

  • @TPDR-1
    @TPDR-1 27 дней назад +3

    Cochu444 I disagree with your theory because the stern after the break up went to a near vertical angle but it is still interesting

    • @TandMe
      @TandMe  27 дней назад +2

      @@TPDR-1 it's not my theory

    • @TPDR-1
      @TPDR-1 27 дней назад +2

      @@TandMe I did already know that

    • @TPDR-1
      @TPDR-1 27 дней назад +2

      @@TandMe I was seeing if cochu444 would see this comment

    • @TandMe
      @TandMe  27 дней назад +2

      @@TPDR-1 oh I see

    • @TPDR-1
      @TPDR-1 27 дней назад +2

      @@TandMe sry for the misconception

  • @andrewmarino5441
    @andrewmarino5441 Месяц назад +1

    I've always wondered if the aft broke off clean if she would have remained afloat

  • @Faust-v4q
    @Faust-v4q Месяц назад +2

    The stern would have obviously went vertical a tad bit than slip underneath the waves like that.

    • @TandMe
      @TandMe  Месяц назад

      @skinnylegend2621 yep I agree

    • @rantgant5234
      @rantgant5234 9 дней назад

      ​@@TandMeYou agree, and yet you create and post inaccurate garbage.

    • @TandMe
      @TandMe  9 дней назад

      @@rantgant5234 this inaccurate garbage has made me $100 so

  • @Bluestreak-w3m
    @Bluestreak-w3m 3 месяца назад +9

    This is beyond impressive

    • @cochu444yt
      @cochu444yt 3 месяца назад +2

      Friend you are everywhere 🗿👌🏻👍🏻

  • @ShawnieP512
    @ShawnieP512 2 месяца назад

    I've been watching all these sinking animations from several RUclipsrs. I love the interior scenes. The aft dome implosion was really impressive.

  • @grantpilcher8402
    @grantpilcher8402 3 месяца назад +2

    Sadly only 4 men would be pulled from the water only 3 would survive the night

  • @xbgamerx05
    @xbgamerx05 3 месяца назад +1

    sometimes, seeing realistic concepts like this is creepy knowing how she sank. i can't imagine being somewhere in the interior of the bow when she split.

  • @joshuavoida6137
    @joshuavoida6137 3 месяца назад +4

    The 4th Funnel: I’m still standing! I’m still standing!

  • @jebbroham1776
    @jebbroham1776 2 месяца назад +1

    The stern went vertical before it sank, bur other than that this is excellently done.

  • @Kasubaz
    @Kasubaz 29 дней назад +2

    I disagree with this theory but find it interesting still

  • @jadyphan5892
    @jadyphan5892 3 месяца назад

    This has to be one of the most intense and dramatic Titanic sinking animation ever produced. Scary with the music too.

  • @randombelugaman
    @randombelugaman Месяц назад +1

    1:11 R.I.P Italian man

  • @Nomadik_Animations
    @Nomadik_Animations 3 месяца назад +3

    Dang, this is incredible, cochu is lucky wish i my theory was animated by you, great work!

    • @cochu444yt
      @cochu444yt 3 месяца назад +2

      Good luck! I loved the animation! 😊

  • @Tressie13
    @Tressie13 Месяц назад +1

    The sounds omg!!!!!!! 😭😭😭

  • @ChrisGarfield
    @ChrisGarfield Месяц назад +2

    Is this what really happened? The official narrative is not like it is in the movie now?

  • @Shingojira-bi1lg
    @Shingojira-bi1lg 3 месяца назад +2

    Wow, everything is so precise! There's only one bug with the folding boats, but anyway, it's a good animation! I see that this theory is new, I think everything is fine, Why do all the lights go out at the same time? Wouldn't it have been in different sectors? It is curious to see how the stern sinks, but I think it is the closest thing to how it would have sunk, a little more vertical and that's it. The video looks like a movie! Good work and research

  • @teddybetts3254
    @teddybetts3254 3 месяца назад +1

    As soon as this video finishes on my phone, an advertisement for a cruise line comes on. 😅

  • @flashbackfnd1099
    @flashbackfnd1099 2 месяца назад

    the aft staircase breakup animation was insane ive never seen something like that before

  • @Blessed_fatima78
    @Blessed_fatima78 16 дней назад +1

    I don't think the breakup happening in 3 sections is very accurate.

    • @IloveCruiseShips1912
      @IloveCruiseShips1912 15 дней назад

      Please can you explain why you don’t think it is very accurate?

  • @Adalee_Animations
    @Adalee_Animations 3 месяца назад +4

    impressive.

  • @Italy55
    @Italy55 2 месяца назад

    Even animated this scenario is absolutely horrifying.

  • @Robert-ug5fp
    @Robert-ug5fp 3 месяца назад

    This animation is incredible. Makes me feel bad for the people and the ship itself. Amazing work!

  • @maudale
    @maudale 3 дня назад

    Interesting how every animation has a different version of the sinking, even the final plunge of the stern section, how far it rises as it sinks etc...

  • @davidkelly2124
    @davidkelly2124 3 месяца назад +2

    27 years after James Camerons film the cgi is only a bit better

  • @jackganimations
    @jackganimations 3 месяца назад +4

    Incredible work

    • @MrPoopYTP
      @MrPoopYTP 3 месяца назад

      Oh hello there :D

  • @stevendegner9916
    @stevendegner9916 Месяц назад +1

    The final plunge of the stern is inaccurate but what do I know I'm just a fan not a researcher. But this is as you said a theory nice work

  • @nager1997
    @nager1997 3 месяца назад +1

    I believe the break up to have happened more under the water.
    Based on survivor accounts that some say broke others whole.
    For this to happen. I believe them to both be right to some degree.
    In order to agree with both sides equally.
    My theory is that the super structure gave out as the water washed over the boat deck and started to crack between the 3rd and 4th funnel as the water flooded the boat deck and the ship then started to crack straight down to the B deck level but the crack was almost immediately concealed by the ocean washing over the ship. Causing the stern to drop back down slightly and opening up the top decks long enough to show that it had started to break apart before the water hid it. And then the stern, it stayed attached to the bow and as the stern rose up the mid section began to crumble underneath the water and then the keel broke off detaching the stern as it went completely vertical before plunging down into the ocean.
    I could be wrong but it’s just a theory. Being a dark night, yeah it would have been difficult to see what’s happening clearly. By they said they could see her shadow between the stars. So yeah I believe it was possible to see her break.
    If on the surface it did break somewhat but not all the way down to the keel just the white parts of the super structure and as the bow pulled the stern down, once submerged under the water, the break zone keel it weakened and the crack got bigger and the keel gave out and the stern and bow separated with the superstructure debris between them crumbling into pieces underneath the water as the stern shot down and then imploded under the water with lots of explosions.
    People testified they heard explosions once the Titanic was gone.
    I don’t know if this makes any sense but my point is I believe she did kinda sink intact. But she did partly break on the surface but didn’t show her wound for more than a few seconds before it was concealed by the water. Exposed for enough time for some to see that she was breaking in two but not long enough for everyone else to see it hence the confusion on two or whole debat. She largely broke in two underneath the water giving the illusion of sinking completely intact.
    The survivors I believe were both right she did sink both ways.
    One just has to listen to both sides of the argument for the truth.
    Or at least get a clearer idea of what was actually going on.
    For I believe everyone should be heard no matter how conflicting opinions and statements might be. To just outright dismiss any claims of a break. One loses a considerable number of pieces of the puzzle.

    • @cochu444yt
      @cochu444yt 3 месяца назад +1

      Mmmm, actually, it was precisely in that context that I founded some parts of my theory. The striking thing is that some people said that the sea was illuminated and everything was seen perfectly, while others stated that nothing could be seen except its dark silhouette. Some claimed that the ship broke in two, while others claimed that the ship sank intact. Even people who were on board swore that the ship never broke up and that it sank intact. I have the following explanation for this: The lights go out completely after the second funnel falls; in fact, the same failure generates sparks coming out of its upper hole. After the funnel fell, amid panic and total darkness, many thought that the ship had already split in two, while those who were closer still saw the stern, And the propellers sticking out of the water. At this point, the bow completely under water, stretched with force, while the air in the stern towards it will rise, and its own weight bent the metal and split the wood of the decks. Since the second funnel fell, the total darkness caused many, if not most, of the passengers to stop paying attention to the sinking ship, for this reason, The last thing many people saw was the stern rising into the air until the lights went out, so they deduced that the stern ended up rising vertically and sinking in one piece. But others managed to see the ship break in two. The completely flooded bow stretched strongly from below, while the third funnel falls and the fourth remains Instead. When the stern falls backwards, people still on board the boat felt the fall, but they did not attribute it to a breakage, but rather to a more level final immersion, since, Finally the stern sank level with the sea, with few degrees of heel and inclination. The last thing seen of the ship was the top of the funnel still standing, and the stern mast. When the ship broke in two, the bow tore the central part, dividing the ship into 3 or even 4 parts (the central part). At this point, the bow was pulling strongly from below. Its total weight stretched from the stern, still afloat. After a few seconds, the metal plates (the double reinforced hull) It began to give way. In this way, as the bow stretched from below, it tore the entire lower part of the stern, stretching it no longer from the area of the break, but from the center. Finally, the bow came loose and with it two blocks of the double hull, which can still be seen separated on the bottom today. With the bottom torn off, the stern compartments simply did not work at isolating water from one another, which would have caused it to rise vertically, Therefore, since there were no functioning compartments, the water entered with force, flooding everything. The stern sank levelly, being at the same level and being covered by water at the same time The lifeboat deck and stern end. For this reason, when the people who were on the boat until the end were asked if it had broken in two, These people affirmed and swore that they did not, because they simply felt the stern fall, and then sink level, without rising vertically. On the other hand, the people in the lifeboats who ensured that the ship did not break up, It is because the last thing they saw of the ship was seeing it semi-vertical shortly before the lights went out, and they deduced that the ship sank intact and upright in the darkness. Furthermore, it should be noted again that many people claimed that the last thing seen of the ship was the fourth funnel and the mast. When some passengers said "it looked like a vertical needle towards the sky" they were referring to the mast, which looked vertical and high, the highest point of the stern sinking. I see that there are too many doubts and the community has a hard time accepting my theory, so in the long term I hope to make a much more professional animation about the underwater breakup And the damage to the stern after the breakup, which explains its level sinking.
      Thanks for reading everything! I hope this gives you an idea of what the last minutes of the Titanic were really like. Also, thanks to T and me for creating this animation about my theory! It really is the best animation he could have made ❤️‍🩹😊

    • @nager1997
      @nager1997 3 месяца назад

      @@cochu444yt I think your theory is very good. I don’t think there is any acceptance needed, nor is there a right nor wrong theory as everyone’s theory is good because the more theories they are the closer to the truth we will all be. Every theory is equally as valid as anyone elses. Well whatever did happen that night was extremely extraordinary based on the extant of the debris field. The bow is largely intact but the stern looks horrendous with a huge debris field separating them and large tower debris. So the break up was something that was out of the ordinary. The put ourselves in their place on the ship as she broke. It must have been a living nightmare.

  • @QueenMaryStan
    @QueenMaryStan 3 месяца назад +3

    Bro is Gordon Ramsay 🙏😭 this is straight 🔥

  • @DLAbaoaqu
    @DLAbaoaqu 3 месяца назад +1

    I always liked this exchange from A NIGHT TO REMEMBER:
    LIGHTOLLER:
    There are quite a lot of "ifs" about it; aren't there, Colonel? […] If we'd been steaming a few knots slower, or if we'd sighted that berg a few seconds earlier, we might not even have struck. If we'd been carrying enough lifeboats for the size of the ship instead of just enough to meet the regulations, things would have been different again, wouldn't they?
    GRACIE:
    Maybe. But you have nothing to reproach yourself with. You've done all any man could and more. You're not… I was about to say, you're not God, Mr. Lightoller.
    LIGHTOLLER:
    No seaman ever thinks he is! I've been at sea since I was a boy. I've been in sail. I've even been shipwrecked before. I know what the sea can do! But, this is different.
    GRACIE
    Because we hit an iceberg?
    LIGHTOLLER:
    No. Because we were so SURE! Because even though it's happened, it's still unbelievable! I don't think I'll ever feel sure again. About anything.

    • @billvanek5570
      @billvanek5570 Месяц назад

      I saw a special on TV about the weather conditions that night in 1912. Bottom line: it was a cold-water mirage that kept the iceberg hidden until it was seen too late. Normally they could spot one 12 miles ahead (30 minutes of reaction time), but this one they hit gave them less than 1 minute. The mirage also caused the captain on the CALIFORNIAN to see the TITANIC twice as tall as it really was, so that it did not look like a long ship, but a shorter one. Finally, the weather caused scintillation of lights, so that the distress signals from TITANIC to CALIFORNIAN got randomized and unintelligible. The weather tricked all the people who thought that their eyesight was certain---what they were seeing wasn't correct, while they thought it was. I think that the show was called "The Last Mystery" of TITANIC, and it was fascinating.

  • @joeblogs-vx4ep
    @joeblogs-vx4ep 2 месяца назад

    This is a lot more frightening than most of the modern depictions of the sinking this portrays some of the true horror of that fateful event

  • @Reimu__Hakurei
    @Reimu__Hakurei 3 месяца назад +5

    2:10 I like how in the break up we just see the people surf the deck as it slides under lmao

  • @szr891
    @szr891 3 месяца назад +1

    Наконец то хоть кто то показал кормовую парадную лестницу с куполом, которая находилась в районе разлома 👍👍👍

  • @PedroGarcianunes
    @PedroGarcianunes 3 месяца назад +12

    This animation is very good! I have seen all the theory videos on your channel and others, this is without a doubt the most accurate theory about the Sinking! Each event is represented cinematically,It's great! The fact that the lights go out before the ship breaks up gives a touch of realism! The breakage itself seems a bit fast to me, but I understand that it is not a real-time video. Finally, the final sinking of the stern is the most realistic! Maybe it would have stood up a little more, but I think it's okay! The best I've seen in a long time. Is this theory solely Cochu's or have they investigated it together? Great advance for the Titanic historian community, I had not seen it before.

  • @RedDeadRogue
    @RedDeadRogue 3 месяца назад +1

    A very cool animation overall, very nicely done! I will offer a couple of quick critiques, if I may be so bold:
    0:52 This is Collapsible A, not Collapsible B. Not quite sure if this was just a typo, as you correctly identify Collapsible B a few seconds later.
    2:30 Many survivors described the stern rising back up to nearly vertical and beginning to twist clockwise (from a top-down perspective) after the breakup and not staying on a more or less even keel. Not quite sure if that is your contribution or @cochu444yt 's but yeah, that's the generally accepted version of the stern's sinking.
    Again, this is merely constructive criticism, not meant to sound harsh or like you've done something "wrong." As I said, this is very well done overall and I loved every second! Nice job!

  • @IloveCruiseShips1912
    @IloveCruiseShips1912 20 дней назад +1

    Hi T and Me, I have a question:
    Do you believe the stern imploded?
    I used to but no longer believe it due to Oceanliner designs recent video (Also, since the ship would be completely full of water) and also that those that talked about explosion sounds after the stern sank can be easily explained and also, since some said the stern sank gradually post break and there was no explosion sounds after it sank.

    • @TandMe
      @TandMe  19 дней назад +1

      idk I havent rlly been doing theories recently

  • @RobloxianX
    @RobloxianX 3 месяца назад +2

    cochu burnt his house down so T&Me could build him a mansion

  • @wrigloo3758
    @wrigloo3758 3 месяца назад +1

    This animation is good, but i think you have gotten collapsible a and b mixed up when collapsible a gets cut free

  • @kittipobglanarongran3311
    @kittipobglanarongran3311 3 месяца назад +1

    The nightmare in 1912. 😢

  • @michaelmacleod7051
    @michaelmacleod7051 3 месяца назад +3

    Really good animation. I think the one differing factor in most other variations of the breakup is the flooded bow remained partially attached to the stern by the mangled keel and the bow carries the the stern to a higher angle before it severs while the stern resists sinking due to the amount of air trapped in it. Once the bow detaches the weight of the engines at the outer edge of the stern cause the whole structure to submerge while maintaining a steeper angle.

  • @TheBrister
    @TheBrister 3 месяца назад +4

    This is one of my favorite new animations of the final plunge. It feels chaotic. And abrupt. Which is probably what happened once Titanic itself starting falling like a rock!😊

  • @yametekudasaii01
    @yametekudasaii01 2 месяца назад +1

    EYYY THE AFT IS AWESOME. Make another animation where it took a Vertical Final Plunge please 😢😢😢😢 I love this animatio one.

  • @ShinawaDoesStuff
    @ShinawaDoesStuff 2 месяца назад

    Watching the aft grand staircase collapse caught me off guard ngl

  • @jahmire3509
    @jahmire3509 3 месяца назад +1

    I like this theory tho but the stern sinks like lusitania

  • @user-fz9zk3v7h
    @user-fz9zk3v7h 2 месяца назад

    I really enjoyed the video about the sinking of the RMS Titanic ❤

  • @ammeben7469
    @ammeben7469 Месяц назад +1

    What model of titanic do you use?

    • @TandMe
      @TandMe  Месяц назад +1

      @@ammeben7469 I use Jealouse Statements model

  • @flourypathgamermolinaquese9301
    @flourypathgamermolinaquese9301 3 месяца назад +1

    Keep going and your videos will more realistic than a backrooms k pixels video

  • @eivoMSeb
    @eivoMSeb 3 месяца назад +2

    Right from the start I want to ask… Wouldn’t lights stop working under water? Especially lightbulbs from the 1910s lol

    • @TandMe
      @TandMe  3 месяца назад +2

      I think so but its not my theory so yeah

  • @AlanDarden-ys4uw
    @AlanDarden-ys4uw 2 месяца назад

    Pretty sure the sky was a lot darker than that. I was there to see it 💯

  • @jimlunsford1236
    @jimlunsford1236 3 месяца назад +1

    lol, at the end of this video they ran an advert for a cruise line.

  • @haroldanderson8884
    @haroldanderson8884 3 месяца назад +1

    Great animation-the scene of the aft grand staircase being destroyed was very powerful. But at 0:54 wasn’t it Collapsible A that got free from the falls? I think it’s noted as Collapsible B.

    • @TandMe
      @TandMe  3 месяца назад +1

      @@haroldanderson8884 thank you for noticing! I didn't realize before I uploaded it

  • @Sean-dd9ts
    @Sean-dd9ts 3 месяца назад +1

    2:05 💅💅💅💅💅 well done

  • @Titanic8436
    @Titanic8436 3 месяца назад +4

    This look good

  • @Night789-e4n
    @Night789-e4n 3 месяца назад +1

    Imagínense todo los desaparecidos bajo las profundidades del mar que nunca van a volver ver la luz es simplemente triste

  • @aysinabirdcage7131
    @aysinabirdcage7131 3 месяца назад +5

    Aft grandstair😢

  • @a-guy1912
    @a-guy1912 3 месяца назад +3

    I can't stop watching this

  • @jazzmodern
    @jazzmodern 2 месяца назад

    There still would've been a final rise of the stern attempting 90 degree angle, it's been proven over and over due to that rear of the stern acting as a balloon and since by that point most of he weight would've been at the front of the stern section and also the bow section bringing a massive amount of water down with it- ultimately sucking down anything near it.

  • @VoidvexVR
    @VoidvexVR Месяц назад +2

    On the thumbnail, Isn’t it supposed to say Cochu instead of cohu?

    • @TandMe
      @TandMe  Месяц назад +2

      @@VoidvexVR it's supposed to say cochu just a little mistake I had made

    • @VoidvexVR
      @VoidvexVR Месяц назад +2

      Cool, absolutely beautiful animation though

    • @TandMe
      @TandMe  Месяц назад +2

      @@VoidvexVR thank you!

    • @cochu444yt
      @cochu444yt 15 дней назад +1

      ​@@TandMehahahha ☠️

  • @lifeiscruisey1912
    @lifeiscruisey1912 2 месяца назад

    Every few years they change the angle of the breakup and the final plunge. Soon it will be oh she just went down absolutely flat and broke up underwater due to some other stupid reason.

  • @willhemmings
    @willhemmings 2 месяца назад

    Must be difficult to get the lighting right and still be able to see what's going on; and in this matter your animation is the best yet

    • @TandMe
      @TandMe  2 месяца назад

      @@willhemmings thank you! I always spend a lot of time working on getting the lighting to be perfect

  • @cccco9095
    @cccco9095 3 месяца назад

    100% the stern section went vertical, basic physics says this, also some survivors said the same. Funny though none of the surviving officers said she broke, but many passengers were certain. Imagine being there, if ever time travel becomes a thing.

  • @Ruffusthedog-v9e
    @Ruffusthedog-v9e 3 месяца назад +2

    Good video! I liked it. The water looks weird in some parts hahahah, but it's okay. I never agreed with the stern rising vertically after breaking and I hate people who have falsified testimonies for their convenience. Finally I find an animation, theory in which the stern sinks realistically. Congratulations! New subscriber

    • @Wolfric_Rogers
      @Wolfric_Rogers 3 месяца назад +1

      While I also hate the use of edited accounts as evidence, I'm a bit perplexed. What are you referring to in terms of falsified accounts in this context? There are many known authentic accounts of the stern practically upending post-break. I could provide many examples.
      Frank Goldsmith: "You could still see the Titanic, but you could see only the back, halfway between the mast and the last funnel with the propellers straight up in the air and it hung there for, as a kid, it seemed five minutes. Then it gave a slight whoosh and down it went. There were no lights, but you could see the silhouette of it because the night was clear, the stars so bright." - Boat C
      Caroline Brown: "Her bow went under first and she seemed to settle. Then we heard the most awful roaring and rumbling that seemed as if it must be heard over the ocean for miles. Next(,) the stern of the once magnificent vessel reared high in the air and seemed to stand upright in the water for some time before it went down with a long(,) slanting plunge." - Boat D
      Cosmo Duff-Gordon: "The stern rose a hundred feet almost perpendicularly, the ship standing up like an enormous black finger against the sky." - Boat 1
      Walter Hawksford: "It was a very cold but beautiful night, starry, and the sea as smooth as glass, we watched her bow gradually getting lower, then at about two o’clock, all the lights went out, her stern rose in the air, and she slowly glided away." - Boat 3
      Martha Stephenson: "After what seemed a long time, I turned my head, only to see the stern almost perpendicular in the air so that the full outline of the blades of the propellers showed above the water. She then gave her final plunge and the air was filled with cries." - Boat 4
      Juliet Taylor: "Then we lay and watched the lights go down one after another until they were all gone. Then the Titanic slowly up-ended and went under." - Boat 5
      Jennie Hansen: "Slowly, the ship tilted straight on end and slipped quietly out of sight beneath the waters." - Boat 11
      Ruth Becker: "To our amazement, we watched the Titanic break in half, the prow slipping down quietly beneath the waters and the stern remaining in an upright position for a couple of minutes - seeming to say: ‘Goodbye - so sorry!’" - Boat 13
      George Crowe: "(...) the aft part turned on end and sank." - Boat 14
      Earnest Archer: "(...) when the ship went down, she seemed to come up on end." - Boat 16

  • @BautistaDelsignore
    @BautistaDelsignore 3 месяца назад +3

    La gente dijo que parecia un dedo apuntando al cielo

    • @cochu444yt
      @cochu444yt 2 месяца назад +2

      Se referían al mástil de popa.

    • @IloveCruiseShips1912
      @IloveCruiseShips1912 2 месяца назад +3

      ⁠@@cochu444ytSeveral survivors specified it on being the stern that rose vertically into the air. Hardly anyone said it sank horizontally post break and the majority said it went vertical. Sorry for any offence, no offence meant.

    • @cochu444yt
      @cochu444yt 2 месяца назад +2

      ​@@IloveCruiseShips1912 In reality, my theory is precisely an attempt to include all the testimonies. The issue of the stern sinking horizontally is due to the testimonies of the "Sinking in one piece" It's the only thing that can explain it!

    • @IloveCruiseShips1912
      @IloveCruiseShips1912 2 месяца назад +2

      @@cochu444ytOnly a few said it sank in one piece, the majority were not sure or said it broke. Those that said it sank infact were either not in a good position to see, or might have mistook the lights going out as the ship disappearing. If it went vertical, the break area would definitely be underwater from the rising so no one would have seen the break area once the stern went vertical. It was also very dark that night so not everyone would be sure if it broke or not.

    • @IloveCruiseShips1912
      @IloveCruiseShips1912 2 месяца назад +2

      @@cochu444ytMost of those who said the ship sank intact more likely mistook the lights going out as the ship disappearing. Many witnesses seem to have mistook this and likely didn’t see the stern, even when it was rising due to the darkness and different POVs. Lightoller and Patrick Dillon who said it sank intact also said it went vertical or rose up when it sank.

  • @johnnydao8056
    @johnnydao8056 3 месяца назад +2

    Great work and what music is playing during this sinking Theory

    • @TandMe
      @TandMe  3 месяца назад +1

      @@johnnydao8056 don't remember the name but it should come up if you search dramstic suspenseful music

  • @sabrinastratton1991
    @sabrinastratton1991 2 месяца назад

    Nice work guys

  • @William_James_Official
    @William_James_Official 3 месяца назад +2

    0:54 why the hell is the collapsible a is called "b"?

  • @somanshbaru
    @somanshbaru 3 месяца назад

    The stern sank like the luisitania

  • @monstevo3295
    @monstevo3295 2 месяца назад

    I watch the film my favourite part was when the funnel collapsed p s. I like the sound of it collapsed

  • @Donker_Dank
    @Donker_Dank 11 дней назад

    My only question is what about the people who said the stern stuck up like a finger to the sky? Maybe they couldn't really see it

    • @TandMe
      @TandMe  11 дней назад

      @@Donker_Dank idk ask cochu

    • @Donker_Dank
      @Donker_Dank 11 дней назад

      @@TandMe hey cochu

  • @ArronHawken
    @ArronHawken 3 месяца назад

    Personally I don’t believe the dome ever imploded, I think once the staircase flooded, the wood ripped itself upwards due to its buoyancy and crashed upwards through the dome and skylight.
    Just my personal opinion

  • @CalifornianTheAnimator
    @CalifornianTheAnimator 2 месяца назад +1

    Can you do my theory animated?

  • @anthonyferreira9094
    @anthonyferreira9094 2 месяца назад

    incredible

  • @ThatWolfFromHyruleGaming
    @ThatWolfFromHyruleGaming 3 месяца назад +2

    Decent animation. Kind of ignores the survivor testimony that all said the forward starboard LP cylinder slid out and caused an imbalance. This meant that the stern rose into the air again and was slowly turning to port and eventually sank facing East, towards England.