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Exploring Ever After High's "Rip-Offs"
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I feel that Royal Academy, in premise, has a LOT more in common with Winx Club itself hah.
Earth girl goes to magic school bc she finds out she's not actually just an earth girl?
Agreed!
At least Bloom isn't named "Bloom FireFairyPrincess" lol
it was made by the same studio
Wait- Regal Academy?? Are you talking about Rose Cinderella? I remember having a HUGE crush on Hawk Snow white as a kid 😂
It's kinda funny how Disney kinda made the perfect honey pot, they did Pocahontas and now whenever any franchise targeting to do the whole "fairytale" lineup tries to add Pocahontas to their line they can immediately go "oh yeah they're copying us, no one in their right mind would add Pocahontas to a list of fairytale characters without being directly influenced by us"
but she's not a fairytale...
@@AUSTIN-mi2 yeah that's literally what I'm talking about. She's not a fairytale but people believe everything Disney does IS, so when other companies do the entire fairytale lineup if they also add Pocahontas it's clear that they're just ripping off Disney
@@AUSTIN-mi2exactly the point of the comment
I feel like the heavy emphasis on "deconstructing" fairy tales in mid-2010s fandom culture is something interesting to examine in that time period, and it was not only driven through doll lines, but also in the YA novel space and through the popularity of stuff like The Wolf Among Us/Fables and Once Upon a Time
I partially blame Disney for its demise, because the live-action remakes + Descendants definitely fell into the pandering to nostalgia side of the coin, and I now feel like any weird or subversive take on fairy tales feels more over-played and commercialized than a straight-forward take on fairy tales would be
the whole "deconstructing fairy tales" thing goes back to before the 2010s, it's not a doll line or even a franchise with teens like eah or descendants, but shrek basically did the entire deconstruction back on the 2000s ^_^ it honestly does the entire moral debate / destinies / nature vs nurture as well as eah imo, I know it got memed to hell and back but the story is incredibly well written
This trend goes back to Shrek, but this pop-dark fantasy flavor in particular gain notoriety with movies like Tim Burton's Alice in Wonderland and The girl in the Red Riding Hood and then everyone ran with it.
Anyway, fairy tales are kinda like a cyclical thing, they always come and go in waves of idealism (kinda what we are currently dealing with) and cynicism. Heck, Fairy tales are an oral tradition and they are always adapted to fit the current mood of whatever time we are going through.
Omg I read this book series called Dorothy Must Die around this time period that was just “what if Dorothy was evil?” Where the main character is a girl from Kansas who has to basically coup d’tat Dorothy. What were we even doing back then
there was also the school for good and evil for books. i think it was released a few months before ever after high and descendants.
it's a shame that things like descendants changed the concept and made it much more popular. i personally love the concept of changed fairy tales so much but most of the current things using this concept are just soooo tame. they dont actually want to be different so their "spin" is just the same as all the other fairytale-spin series
"Teen Pocahontas" legit made me recoil. Then when I spotted her again in the lineup of generic knockoff princesses, I had to pause for a moment to collect myself like omg.
Funny story about the Once Upon a Zombie dolls- I attended NY Toyfair the year they were being released, and saw the display for them, if you could call it that. Their booth was literally a black table with the dolls displayed on stands, with several very uncomfortable suited marketers behind the table. Literally nothing else, no signage, nothing. Set that with the backdrop of the rest of toyfair, and all of the colorful loud booths, and it was a very strange picture.
I remember my introduction was getting it recommended to me on YT wayyy back when they just came out with those mini movies and I thought it was interesting but not enough for me to get a doll. It was an interesting concept ( even when you put into perspective that my favorite version of Alice that wasnt Disneys was American McGee's take on the character) but it just, fell flat.
Yikes 💀
The fact that the School for Good and Evil also came out in 2013 makes me more likely to think that "fairytale, but next-generation" was just an idea a lot of people had at the time. Either way, great video 👍
"Zombie Winnie The Pooh trademark specifically for NFTs" has caused me tangible psychic damage
I think the most obvious answer to the rip off issue with some of the lines being in production way before EAH launch is that they weren’t meant to compete with EAH but with monster high instead. With some parents’ panic about horror characters inspired dolls making headlines, the fairytale characters provided a safer and tamer concept to roll with while having similar aspects such as familiar character basis and fantasy designs
“Teen Pocahontas” like the real Pocahontas wasnt 12 YEARS OLD, A PRETEEN EVEN 😭
Yeah she was aged up to like 13 in the story. She was actually 9 or 10 when it happened. The Disney sequel seems like a terrible concept (I haven't seen it). She died from a European disease on the boat ride back at the age of 21.
@@cthulhucult3230i thought she was 22.
And Alice was pre teen also!
Prince Charming and Peter Pan look so awfully uncanny omg.
Like, they look exactly like an Alpha CC Sim 😭
Worse actually
Or IMVU Avatars 💀
Regal Academy would be a lot cuter if some of those mouth animations weren't absolutely terrifying. I know Rainbow was getting used to a new medium but holy crap some of those of absolutely uncanny.
Rainbow has done cg before I think it was just a really damn weird creative choice
Ikr! Whenever they open their mouths it's like staring into the abyss!
Totally agreed because a lot of the character designs were actually pretty charming in their own right, just really uncanny movements..I feel like it would've worked far better in 2D animation
They also made Hawk Snow White's bangs too long. They often make Male characters have too long bangs that it covers up one of their eyes 😢
I think Regal Academy should had been animated in 2D
The "There goes cousin Cassandra again" picture had me absolutely floored
Honestly I don't care which came first but ever after high will always have a special part in my heart.... the mystery of the first episodes, the aesthetic, the characters, the atmosphere and the plot which.... yeah it's not the best revisiting it and even the books do have their plot holes but no piece of media is perfect!
this
I can't believe the Fairy Tale High folks thought making a doll of Matoaka of all people was a good idea at some point, holy shit.
I’m like 90% sure there were also plans to feature her in once upon a zombie 😬
@@numbuhbee Alexa, define "tasteless" 😬😬😬
Do we have to remind the Italians that she was a real person
@@numbuhbee holy ass balls
I can’t be the only one who noticed that the Beast from Descendants looked like Dexter Charming. I thought it was a little too close and is probably copyright infringement. 🤣
No, you're not the only one. The first pic of comparaison between EAH and Descendants I've seen in Internet back in 2015 was litterally Ben and Mal (in their Coronarion outfits) VS Dexter and Raven Date Night. 😂
Slightly unrelated but I felt this way about Disney’s Rapunzel when compared to Barbie’s Rapunzel. Why’s the Disney version in such a similar dress???
@@neverendinglute3125 tbf, both of those stories are different in their own ways. its not as bad as the descendants and ever after high debate.
@@neverendinglute3125 I think that's because Rapunzel was mostly represented into this kind of purple/lilas dress with blonde hair into books and other medias before Barbie and Disney made a movie with this princess.
I remember when I saw the movie for the first time and saw Ben, I thought," Why is Dexter Charming in a Disney Movie? And why isn't he wearing his glasses?" I also thought the design for the Beast in Descendents looked like an older Dexter Charming due to both characters wearing blue and having glasses.
The thing that bothered me about Fairy Tale High was how lazy it looked, how Snow White had seven little brothers, and that they just start dancing in detention.
Ever after high was different in the sense that there was an actual storyline plot within the movies/series. It was great but unfortunately never actually got to reach its fullest potential which is very sad to think about
You ate and left no crumbs with your outfit tbh
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yesss omg
@@Aldclover93 is it not she ? just asking
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Alrighty, as the resident old fart I explain this era as "The Post Shrek" era. So, while it's memed to death now I just want to assure everyone that Shrek was MASSIVE, especially Shrek 2 . It ushered in this era of fractured Fairy Tales. It was all over places like Deviant Art long before Mattel or Disney jumped on the band wagon. The first "twisted" version of a classic tale was American McGee's Alice series, which actually came out alongside the first Shrek. Like most pop culture things it started with teens/young adults and then trickled down to the kiddy market about a decade later.
So, was there any ripping off between Mattel and Disney? Probably, but it'll never be provable. I personally believe they just happened to get onto the same zeitgeist band wagon a bit late, Rainbow too. Gotta admit I'm a bit thrilled with Brandy coming back as Cinderella though. Normally I'm not interested in nostalgia pandering, but I'll let it slide this time.
Ever After High will always be the best one, but Descendants is quite fun and I freaking love Regal Academy and miss it a lot
YES they honestly all have their own little spark (for EAH all if it is the spark)
Those 3 Series were literally THE core trio of my childhood 😂 I literally roleplayed pretending that I was one of the characters in those shows.. good times 💖
Fairytale content was big around then tbh, like it wasn’t just dolls.
fairytale reimagination was definitely most popular a bit before the dolls and stayed till a bit after.
I'm sorry the "there goes cousin Cassandra again" is the funniest thing I've seen in the last two weeks.
Fairy tale high is such a funny concept to me because like, aside from Alice who I think was like 12 at the oldest, most of the characters were teens in their original stories? Tinkerbell I'm unsure, she might be an adult, but the rest of them I'm pretty are like 14-16 originally, in the disney versions and in the original fairy tales
Not only that, but how would a fairy and a mermaid go to a human school. And wasn’t rapunzel in the tower since she was a baby. They really didn’t think that out.
Not you unlocking a buried memory😭god, I remember my obsession with Fairy Tale High and Once Upon A Zombie. There was no way they’d ever make it to my country but they intrigued me so much😭😭hearing all you said no is absolutely wild
Somehow they did sell them in my country which is insane because almost nothing gets imported here lol. I still got Rapunzel and Snow white
I was in my "dolls are for children phase" still but I remember looking at ever after high so hard and ultimately passing. I was broke. I'm still very fond of the line. Their moon faces are good for customs
22:52 K, now I wanna know how Teen Peter Pan works
What is "missing the central premise of the story" , Alex?
"...the daughter of Genie." I'm sorry _what???_ How does that work???
the absolute charisma, uniqueness, nerve and talent of cousin cassandra
I am sooo intrigued now by whatever was going on with Fairy Tale High, Toon Studio, and the parent companies. I love that all the lines they were associated with had at least one doll that was *completely* shameless in how it was ripping off Disney. They remind me of mockbusters and rip-off animated movies that seem to only be made to confuse clueless grandparents who don’t realise they’re buying the wrong movie for their grandkids from the DVD rack. And that brand presentation - brilliant stuff. I’d kill to hear the story from people who were involved.
If it wasn’t actually an attempt to cash in on confused Disney fans (or rather, their grandparents) then I have to wonder what they were thinking. It almost looks like some kind of elaborate and expensive shitpost just to provoke Disney, but I know it’s more likely they just saw some way they could turn a profit on pushing the copyright boundaries lol
I oughta incorporate "There goes cousin Cassandra again!" into my daily vernacular
11:50 The Descendants books are a mess of trying to fit the movies and webshow together, I've read them all. I respect the author for trying her best though.
There are two different authors.
I remember being younger and shocked that eah „ended because“ of descendants because EAH was my favourite show ever and descendants was my favourite movie franchise at the same time •_•
Odd that they made Apple White a blond considering her mom is known for her black hair.
I think it’s said or indicated that she got that from her dad.
It was stated in the book why her hair is blonde i just forget why
There’s actually an old fairy tale about Snow White and red riding hood that had a blonde Snow White. It’s just now the way Disney’s is. I think the actual red character was called rose red. (Hence why they are in the same story.)
@@lamorthonyfairyfriend4082 Yeah Snow White and Rose Red it didn’t have anything to do with red riding hood though.
I remember reading in one of the diaries or books, that Apple mentions that her blonde hair is actually a point of insecurity for her, since her mother has black hair and it’s part of the fairytale
Regal Academy isn't Rainbow's first CGI series. There was Mia and me in 2014, and also the Winx movies (the first came out in 2007) and seasons 5 and 6 which were half-CGI. They knew how to do CGI.
I love the once upon a zombie line! It’s not necessarily because it’s the best quality. And unfortunately they are very expensive in the resale market. But I love the mixed themes of horror and fantasy. A romanticized vision of an apocalyptic fairy tale
Royal Academy was definite one of those shows that made me go “Huh, girls and guys are cute.” as a kid, which evolved into “Oh, I’m bi”. But I feel like I can say that with half the properties in this video.
There’s so much inconsistency across Descendants lore throughout the movies, books, and animated series. One could argue that they are all different canons, but the books actually tried to connect them all together(Captain Hook having three kids, who are Harriet, CJ, and Harry. Dr.Facilier having two daughters, who are Freddie and Celia). Hades actually had a son named Hadie who had a minor role in the second book. When it was revealed in the third movie that Hades was actually Mal’s father, the author of the books was asked about Hadie and revealed she had to cut/drop/retcon his character as if he never existed…
Once Upon a Zombie was also a book that I’m unsure was published or not. I bought every doll and they reached out to me to read the draft and give any notes.
Yesss it was published :D I think I got the book at a middle school book fair. I still haven't finished reading it tho, but it got me into the concept which I personally like
Fellow Texan here lol!!!!!! Wanted to say I love your videos, you completely reignited a love for dolls in me I feel like I haven’t known since I was a kid lol. You seem like such a sweet thoughtful person and you kinda remind me of my younger sibling lol. Everything your doing is amazing hun and it’s epic watching you talk about follow and share something you’re passionate about lol. Ur the grooviest 🤘
there goes cousin cassandra again
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Another great video! I have the Italian dolls of Regal Academy and love them, could only get through a few episodes, but may try again. I have the Once Upon a Zombie line too, good articulation, inset eyes, and rooted eyelashes. Big EAH fan, never got into Descendants but never saw them as a ripoff, just different. For fairytale fans these were good days!
It honestly does get better, surprisingly. The first 2-3 episodes are just, like, REALLY bad compared to the rest of the series for some reason
@@DarlingDollz I will definitely watch it again, thank you for the tip :) Due to one of your videos I got my 1st Storytime Princess doll which I adore! I never even heard of them before your video, thank you so much for that
Omfg you explained the differences and similarities to descendants and eah SUPER SUPER WELL!! Its the best I’ve heard anyone explain it 😭
Just want her (EAH) back 😭😭😭
Same!!!
Mattel better not make those damn Descendants dolls 😤
Descendants brings massive nostalgia to me, I remember just singing my little heart out to all the songs and I honestly kinda preferred it more than ever after high
There goes cousin Cassandra again 😀💦💦🐠
what did they mean by that 😭
I mistook regal academy as supernatural academy and watched it on peacock and was surprised it’s pg-14 haha I had to come back and double check if they had dolls
Ngl, while not a doll line, I would love to hear how you feel about the designs for Disney’s Twisted Wonderland, a JRPG/visual novel that has characters based on Disney villains (a couple are directly related but the rest are just based on them).
I don't play it, but I do like the character designs! I'm more of a bishoujo gamer when it comes to gachas, but I still see the appeal for the twisted wonderland guys haha
Fun fact for you if you ever heard of the manga called black butler the author yana toboso is the key visual design for the game and is also the reason why these last few years the chapters to black butler are shorter than usual cause she's been busy with that
I wish they would bring back eah. I'd love to see them with the diversity and quality of mh 2023
I LOVE the Regal Academy boys, they look like protagonists from a card game anime!
regal academy was EVERYTHING to me as a kid!! i learned about it through those flash dress up games online and binged the whole series and ATE IT ALL UP. i had ocs i made with the dress up games that i obsessed over [but that was also what i did with eah and lolirock] and couldnt focus because id be thinking about stories i made for them.. i still know the theme song lyrics by heart!! it might have been a bit odd but to me it was the best thing since sliced bread u_u
I genuinely want some of these dolls now, especially Regal Academy, especially the boll gown ones! best thing about obscure ish doll lines is that I can actually afford them- and I neeeeeed the teen Rapunzel doll
“And monsters-there was a lot of monsters”
Wrong.
There were a lot of monsters AND goths
Regal Academy suffers this issue where the characters look good in 2D artwork but thet look really uncanny in 3D
as someone who watched all of regal academy... never in my life have i harbored so much hatred and annoyance towards a main character in my entire life.
Wait, LoliRock season 3 was confirmed? Hell yeah!
Oh gosh, if mattel will be producing new Descendants dolls... than how close to EAH doll design may they be?!??!??!?
I mean, the dolls will based off of the designs in the new movie, so you don’t have to worry about that. Unless they make some original doll designs, but they could also have completely different designers than Mattel had back then during EAH’s run, so there’s that.
Can’t tell if this is a good or bad thing but they better look WAY better because im gonna be buying them both 😍
Regal Academy!!! The nostalgia I just got is insane, I loved that series so much
Honestly, if any of these doll companies could make anything half as cool as Ever After High good in ‘em. The Ever After High characters had such cool, well-thought out designs so it’d be cool to see if anyone could make designs half as cool
i’m not much of a commenter generally but i watch every single one of your videos and have for a long time, i always really adore your frankness, knowledge and wit when speaking about your passions. i’m currently on the psychiatric ward so it’s very nice to have some new videos to watch while i twiddle my thumbs here. beautiful outfit, lovely new little set up i’ve been loving with all your pretty dolls, and as always a very well-spoken and well-done video. appreciate you and your brain :)
Descendants was a book series before it was ever a movie. The characters in the animated series and the movie are all in the books. Freddy and Celia in the animated series are sisters. Cj and Harry Hook are siblings and they have another sibling, Harriet that only exists in the books. They picked and chose who to put in the movie and who to put in the animated series. Fun fact, Chyna voiced Freddy in the animated series and played Uma in the movie. It may have been timing but Disney choose to turn the books into a movie, it wasn't something they themselves came up with. The first book, Descendants Isle of the lost was written by Melissa de la Cruz and published April 2015, 3 months before the first movie.
once upon a zombie sounds like such an amazing premise, when the dolls came up I was so dissapointed...
i definitely remember being super into ever after high and then descendants as a kid but WOW i completely forgot about regal academy, i remember loving that show and watching ever episode for it to just drop off the face of the earth one day
I enjoyed this. I remember Royal High, I was a Winx Club fan and kept an eye on the studio.
I’m so happy you made this! I was hoping you would after you did the MH vid. Let’s not forget the cancelled Bratz Twisted. Great vid as always ❤❤❤
thank you thank you thank you, ive been searching for FairyTale High for years!, i had a sticker of the teen cinderella when i was a kid that i was obsessed with because i thought she was so pretty
as someone who grew up with descendants rather than ever after high, I do have a lot of nostalgia for it (although I can recognize that eah is better overall)
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Straffi just bought back Viacom's shares of Rainbow in January, so many of the current shows are stuck in production limbo at the moment. I think Regal Academy might be one of them, and the fully CGI season 9 reboot of Winx Club definitely is.
i had a few dolls from each of those lines...and all the zombie dolls for some reason. They were cheap at Tuesday Morning. I hate how most of these dolls were so skinny i felt like i was going to break them while posing them.
toon studios of Beverly hills is known for copying stuff from disney, they have there own disney princesses and they even created a snow queen that looked just like elsa
Off topic but your outfit is sooo adorable~!!! 💖💖💖💖
omg your outfit in this vid is ADORABLE, i love it
Omg! Your cutest outfit yet! Love it! 💗💖✨️
Omg your outfit is SO CUTE in this one. I'd definitely rock that 😍🥰
It's nearing the end of 2023, where the hell are my Zombie Winnie the Pooh dolls with collectable and tradeable NFTs?!
Regal academy's art style was pretty awesome, it's a shame that it got written off, and they didn't really stick to the concept designs which were really awesome, along with the story, writing, and plot. I thought the animation was pretty cool looking, even though I would have preferred it in 2d, I think it would have been a good step in the right direction.
Yeah, I read the comics as a kid and I loved it! The 3d animation really threw me off when I finally watched it though.
I need "there goes cousin Cassandra again" stickers, tshirts, mugs
Your outfit is snatching and I can't stop staring at it omg, iconic
yay another video to play when i need videos to draw to ( when i finally get motivation :[ )
( also love ur outfit )
I’m gonna say Travis was my favorite from Regal Academy, expected to be the beast but he just loved art but was discouraged cause he’s “a beast” But then he was the only one to recognize Ling Ling and saw past the appearance to see someone for who they were like (I assume) his grandmother did.
This unlocked a hidden memory about regal academy omg I had forgotten about it 😭 I used to watch it when I was little
It’s not just marketing teams looking out for upcoming trends; it’s companies spying on each other. “Oh, you hear that Comp A is making this? We gotta jump on that!” “Omg, did you see what Comp B is doing? Quick, back to the drawing board! We must make revisions!” “We must pivot! We just got word that Comps A and B are working on this! We can’t miss out!” “Uh, did you hear about Comp C? They’re doing it too. We’ve gotta do something to catch up, quick!”
As a long time cartoon geek, I love Regal Academy. Ever After High had better story telling, with an in depth exploration of the conflict between duty and free will (pretty heavy stuff for a doll commercial), but Regal Academy was a lot more fun.
Rose geeking out over her favorite fairy tale characters was too adorable.
I have all three American DVDs and the full series of season one in Italian. I can only find season 2 in French so far.
Cammy you are looking SO cute today! And congrats on the sponsor! And also #stankururun
Thank you!!
fun fact regal aacdemy was made in development during 2000s before ever after high
i loved Regal Academy as a kid bc i never got to watch ever after high that much
and i shipped hawk and rose heavily
thank you for this video bc i bought a bunch of second hand monster high dolls a while back and they were dressed in clothes from all over. i had one in a torn up pink ballgown that i knew wasnt MH and this video showed me it was actually once upon a zombie. that's a load off my mind
I knew, on first glimpse at Regal Academy, that they HAD to share creators with Winx. (which reminds me, I have a Mattel Flora around here SOMEWHERE, but do you think I could FIND her? Nope.)
The whole "who copied whom" debate is always so cyclical. It's like there's a "click" that goes off...and then BOOM. Everyone has the same idea at nearly the same time. Orphaned wizard boy with glasses? Here you go. Kids/grandkids of monsters/fairytale creatures? Here they are!
Ever After High has the best outifts and accessories of all the ones you covered.
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omg I'm early! Hi there! I never thought I'd be so interested in dolls as someone who has never really had any? But I absolutely adore your content!!! You're super fun to watch! Have a nice day :3
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Teen Alice? For a prequel? Wasn't she like 7 in the books?
i remember almost all of these because i was obsessed with eah and quickly found the other lower quality lines that no one had ever heard of
I seriously doubt they're related in any way but Once Upon a Zombie is also a book series (which I haven't personally read), but the books came out in 2016 so I guess everyone just had the same ideas
The first book came out in 2015, and it is related to the doll line. It was supposed to be a multimedia franchise(dolls, webisodes, books, merchandise, miscellaneous products, etc.), but after the dolls were discontinued, they decided to settle into making it into solely a book series instead(funnily enough, some characters went through redesigns and they look even more like the Disney versions, so make of that what you will).
Just thought of this, and it could change EVERYTHING! Ever After High, Descendants, and Royale Academy were all ripping off one show . . . Super Why from PBS kids. The show was made and shown far before any of these properties were in production and it follows the children of fairytale characters, namely Jack (from Jack and the Beanstalk), a pig (from The Three Little Pigs), the princess (from The Princess and the Pea), and Red Riding Hood (pretty self explanatory). They even have some of that rebelliousness of Ever After High and Descendants as they travel into fairytales and often change their endings. It's a conspiracy that goes all the way to the top!/j
Comparing them to the source material (the "teen Princesses" dolls), the source being the Disney Princesses, aren't all of the princesses teens already?
(save for Cinderella since she was used as a maid by her stepmother [mainly] and step sisters, she became a princess [by marrying prince charming], she wasn't one beforehand.)
Sir that outfit needs to be in my closet right now you slayed it
YOUR OUTFIT IS SO CUTE!!
Are we going to mention how the 'Royal/Rebel' concept made no sense and they dropped it pretty quickly lol