Will the NBA’s 65-Game Rule Lead to More Player Injuries? I Off Guard With Austin Rivers
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- Опубликовано: 1 фев 2024
- Austin and Pausha discuss the irony of the NBA’s 65-game rule and how it affects players like Joel Embiid, who recently pushed himself to play through an injury.
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"Joel Embiid is a guy who historically plays most of his games" 😂 Embiid has played in 55.7% of possible games since joining the NBA.
After playing 35 games in his first 3 seasons, that’s not that bad of a percentage
That's technically most, but I do agree with you
Making excuses for guys like Embiid and LeBron is what today’s NBA is about
@@BrazilianBeast45 discounting those first injuries he's still barely above 70%
@@CollaredConsulting Black privilege.
"The rule cost him an injury" if hes legitimately hurt, sit. It was him wanting the award that caused him to push himself. "Its costing guys money" you get paid out your full amount of your contract as long as you dont breach contract, whether you play or not. You miss out on 40 mil but make how much in game checks while sitting on a bench? This isnt to disparage anyone whos hurt its just that rules were created as a response to whats been going on. Other players fucked it up for them not the reactionary change in rules
“The majority of the people are not happy about it”. I call B.S. the majority of the players are happy because performance incentives provides the TV corporations guarantees that the best players will play, which provides the money paying for all those big contracts. The people unhappy about it are the dozen or so players talented enough to be in the running for awards that don’t want to push themselves off season and on season to be able to stay healthy.
This was not imposed on the players. This was negotiated with them.
So crazy you gotta do 80% of your job to be get credit. I really have no sympathy for the players. Get healthy and win. The money will come.
If the job can cause physical injuries then there is a balance when determining those credits. Freak accidents are endeavoured by healthy people too. If the work you do is prone for injuries do you believe any bonuses should not be considered for you if you were injured for a period of time but majority of time you have enabled your company to make higher profits?
@@ebok33643what ?! Every player knows for what job they are signing up for. Everybody is free to choose a different career. Second, there are insurances that every player can get to secure their future.
Bottom line… if you want to be on top of the mountain and be a top earner in a highly competitive field, you gotta meet the criteria for it. Durability and,of course, luck are part of it, just like size, strength, speed etc.
Its not like the non-max salary players earn pennies
From the NBA perspective there will always be a next Embiid, a next KD, a next Tatum etc. it s not the 70s anymore were it needed Magic and Bird
No other jobs have this injury risk stop comparing their job to your dead end low risk job
@@ebok33643they are paid more than enough for those “risks.” Stop making excuses for low effort players.
@@Macdaddymanplaying basketball isn't even close to the top ten most dangerous professions
Anytime in history, if a player gets an injury, it sucks. How many other players got injured and missed all-nba? Missed their chance at DPOY/ROY/MVP? COUNTLESS!! I do feel bad for Haliburton, but not any more than I did when any other player had their season award potential ripped away by injury. But if you want me to feel extra bad because he's "only" gonna make $200 million instead of $240? You gotta be fuckin kidding me.
All I really got out of this from Austin is Joel embiid would rather win MVP again or get all nba rather than be healthy for the playoffs. And I’m supposed to be sympathetic?
You're contradicting yourself by saying you feel bad for Haliburton, then saying you don't when it comes to his $40M gap
@@leeswift7883 I feel bad he's injured. I feel no ways about him losing out on $40 mil when he's getting 200 other million dollars. Please. If you got $200 mil you got 5 generations you can support.
@@gabdex83 then I hope you're never underpaid what you're worth, the most you can get, or both and don't give that advice to those you care for to undersell themselves
@@leeswift7883 undersell? He is injured. How many players have gotten injured and lost out on shit? This happens in every sport in every country in every league in the world. Why is Haliburton so special to get all this sympathy?
The frame is wrong from the start.
It s not because of the 65games rule.
It s because the player CHOOSE to take a risk !!!
No player is forced to take that risk. The player wants the bigger cheque and gambles with his health. It s a decision by a grown up !!
I understand it from a human perspective, but take responsibility for your actions as an adult. It s very simple actually
If the old timers were showing up night after night while RIDING the BUS then these guys should play when available and injuries are just part of the game that needs to be accepted.
Damn right! I’m glad I grew up in the 90s and 00s.
@@dreamcage1801 those guys were on the planes but they def had different mindsets and played hurt or else they'd be labeled as soft.
@@SaltyChip right and that’s the difference real men played like real men who weren’t sissies and c***s
6:20 im bout to puke with them saying new guys doing more dangerous stuff. They wore non padded chucks in game and all the dudes inside were huge and there was no such thing as an open layup!
If 65 game rule was a factor in Embiid playing agaisnt Warriors, then he's got to be one of the most idiotic people in the world. He had already missed 12-13 games at that point. A bit less than half a season left or 37 games? Given those numbers and his injury history, it was a simple mathematical improbability that he would make it to 65 games at that point. Same with Haliburton. Don't whine about the rule when you already missed so many games and you are coming back from doing splits so chances are, he's gonna be out more games. That's a legit injury, which is very unfortunate but at the same time, none of that has anything to do with the new rules.
And if playing 65 games mattered that much to Embiid, maybe shouldn't have ducked the one against Nuggets? I don't put it past him that he sat out against Blazers right after that for good measure so he can claim the "injury" was legit. His mouthpieces on the media was surely running with it at the time. Anyway, you reap what you sow. Embiid dished out plenty of dirty plays to his opponents so not shedding any tears over what happened to him.
Acting like Embiid doesn't have a whole career of him missing half a season or entire season before the 65 game rule. I bet 65 was chosen simply because it was one less than the 66 Embiid had last season.
If you think 65 games, a season is too much, then you need mental help
The rule is fine. The issues enter where contract maximums are dictated by year end awards. They need to sever that connection.
"Joel Embiid is out there every night"... actually, he's NOT. He's not even out there 4 out of every 5 nights. That's the problem.
If you play, you get paid, if you don't play you get paid. Already sounds like a pretty good deal to me
The ringer gave him this podcast because of his dad
The attitude of the players non commitment to the game that pays you not to be a normal person anymore will be the downfall of the NBA. Once LeBron retires the NBA will struggle to garner views and notoriety.
You guys are off on this. This rule was to protect the paying FANS who allow this league to exist. We pay an arm and a leg to see these players, and we’re happy that they’re held accountable to play. Just read the comment section.
Austin Rivers just like SAS should consider talking to Ben Simmons or more importantly an orthopaedic surgeon about lower disc problems, nerve damage and how they ultimately affect rest of the body prior to criticizing on medical matter that you don’t have any knowledge nor training.
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The money that Halliburton may miss out on is an extra incentive that never used to exist. So we're not talking about him missing out on a normal max contract, we're talking about a SPECIAL max contract. If he's hurt don't play but I'm struggling to have sympathy for a guy missing out on making $50 mill a season and will ONLY make $40 mill a season.
This is one of the FEW recent rules changes that actually makes sense and has had a tremendous impact on the league in a good way…
I’m sorry that players can’t just call out and decide not to go do their job for 20% of the season anymore
Counterpoint: I hate being in a situation where I have to debate spending a couple hundred dollars on tickets because I'm worried if the people who I want to see are going to play or not. This rule benefits ticket sales, TV ratings, etc. It's a great, if unrefined, rule.
65 out of 82 games is the equivalent to your run of the mill office employee getting 10 weeks of PTO per year.
The fact that it doesn’t have anything in place for injuries is definitely bad.
funny thing is? there is no total game minutes limit for game appearances - so Obviously, that is the next player/franchise exploit... playing 5-10 minutes in a game instead of full rest day. Well... until they make a rule for that too.
They should show two types of stats. The traditional averages we see today for games played and a second set showing averages for games PAID.
They should give a zero stat line for every game these so called “players” miss while they’re at it.
Create the obligatory 4 game minimum rule for any absence.
Philly didn’t get fined because Embid didn’t play. They were fined because he wasn’t on the injury report. Vegas doesn’t like this.
The PLAYERS agreed to the 65 game rule in the new CBA. They did it to themselves.
Embiid got hurt by playing basketball. It was a freak injury cuz he played the game. Had nothing to do with the rule. Not surprised nepo baby Austin Rivers is complaining about doing more then the bare minimum
What’s erkin me is people saying embid got hurt because he forced himself to play when he clearly got hurt because kaminga jumped on his fuckin knee like why is everyone pushing that
Nothing wrong with players having rights, but when they disregard the PAYING FAN'S rights, then they need a lesson on where those fat paychecks come from!!!
We talking about injuries and winning awards. "It's not fair, I got hurt!"....so are we stripping championships because one team was devastated by injuries? No? So why is it different here?
These divas are so entitled, they could literally miss 30% of the season and win a scoring title over a player that played in all 82 just because they averaged less than 1 pt more, this league is a joke.
Defense is harder to play when players are shooting so many threes. NBA players are employees and should not be rewarded for not playing in games.
Move the line back, get rid of the corner 3 and illegal defense.
Officially the worst rule change in sports history. Name another rule change that had this disastrous of an effect.
Idk man if you require the game to be slowed for you to leep your body right get it done on a team level or take your foot off the gas a little while
This league is so soft. In the 80s and 90s in a more physical league without the luxury travel. And played all the games. Yall are soft. And coddled. A bunch of babies.
Everyone is crying over the rule for 2 guys. Halliburton and Embiid. 2 out of the 450 players in the NBA. The 65 game rule worked because we got AD, PG, Kawhi and many other players playing night in and night out. This is the first season in a long time that i can remember no major stars has season ending injury. Y’all are crying more than embiid does in the 2nd round. Now y’all are expecting the NBA to change the rule back for embiid?! He doesn’t have that privilege. Win a chip then the rules can change for him.
Austin reaves is out of pocket on this one. Both of them are. What’s new is old. He’s a young cat though and I get it.
If you want to blame pace and usage then blame coaches for not using their bench or running systems that require 1 player to pound the ball for 15 seconds so he can switch 3 times to get the matchup he wants. Luka can’t competently dominate the ball every single game and then him and his coach complain about 3 or 4 games in a week!
By the way, look at all the comments and I prove my point
It’s insane how much the rivers family profited off basketball 😂😂😂 it would be like me making millions from rocket science
Silvers starting to make the league look like a big scam.. Too much betting scamming fans, sus reffing with no consequences and rules scamming players outta millions.. Hes fukin with the history books at this point.
The season is too long…58 game home and away schedule would be a win for fans and players, no more back to backs/load management
They won’t get paid as much though, I don’t know why they don’t just space out the schedule where teams aren’t playing back to backs.
Joel Embiid can't stay healthy because all he does is flop flop flop. He's always falling down for no reason. Well when your that big and you fall, injuries happen. It's a damn shame the league has allowed Philly and Boston and Miami to flop exclusively. None of those teams win more than .400 percent if flopping was enforced.
At the amount of money these players are being paid these days, the least they can do is actually play games. Such an entitled league, probably because they grew up on free welfare and ebt from the government so they’re used to it.
Ibuprofen and penicillin 😂
terrible rule
What did Austin Rivers ever do that was so athletic. He's 30 and out the league. What is his excuse. GTFOH.