I was always impressed with the Soviet sport system. I was especially impressed by Soviet sport science. More sport research than any other country in the world combined.Despite the fact that the data is 30-40 years old it's still applicable in many cases even today. But the system that created it is gone. Desperate conditions breed fantastic results but at what price ?
Sanjay Soekhoe I have seen Red Army. It did open my eyes somewhat but i already had a working knowledge of the Soviet sport system. I was a client of Dr. Michael Yessis in the 80's (as i was attempting to be an olympic lifter) Subscribed to his quarterly the Soviet Sports Review and Yessis Review of Physical Education and Sport as well.Meeting him was my first exposure to Soviet sport. Later i trained with Jay Schroeder (of Adam Archuletta fame).Much of his training philosophy was Soviet and Bulgarian based. Then there was my friend Soviet sprint coach and researcher Ben Tabachnik who was a "speed" consultant to the Chicago Bulls and Denver Broncos for a period of time. Next there was Morris Silber who worked in the Leningrad Institute of Physical Culture. Last but not least was friends for a short time with a Olympic weightlifter that was actually a competitor in the Soviet Union. Could talk for days about them. Saw the Soviet volleyball team live in 87' in a round robin tournament at the old Laker forum in Inglewood, CA as well as the Soviet national team in basketball (minus Sabonis) at the San Diego sports arena about the same time
That is amazing! I know all these people, Tabachnik has some great books! I can't even imagine being surround by these great people, their books are already amazing, must have been at leat 10 times better in person. What happend with your olympic weightlifting then?
Sanjay Soekhoe For various reasons it fell flat not the least of which i was in the Navy for 12 years ! Now i am on the road to attempting to be a Master's Olympic lifter.
The point of this doc was the horrors of the USSR behind the scenes although even they shyed away from the direct ugly truth. Go read a book by one of the people living in the ussr that was thrown in a work camp in Siberia. These athletes were literally fighting for their lives. Fuck up once and you're in Siberia at work camp walking ten miles to and from a job site everyday in negative temperature with no socks. If you stop walking they shoot you and keep it moving. I think you missed the point tbh.
Interesting how the last few minutes predicted a precipitous decline of Soviet/Russian sports, when as of today at the close of the 2020 Tokyo Olympics Russia won one gold medal for every 7.2 million of their people, while the US figure was lower at one gold for every 8.4 million Americans.
Pure American Propaganda! The USSR did so well in sports because people had pride in their country , unlike in the US they just did it for the money and fame. Sports was a way of representing your country for the Soviet citizens.
Gareth Peters Yeah no this has been confirmed a gazillion times over now by whistleblowers, there's been lengthy investigations into doping in the former German Democratic Republic who used the same system. It was systematic and pervasive. Patriotism shouldn't blind you that much. Mind you, other countries did it too... probably most of them, just less systematically, so not as easy to catch. But they all did it and still do...
Go read gulag archipelago the book you moron! Written by the people who loved that country so much....bc if they didn't say they did they were tortured and killed after watching their entire family tortured and killed. Although your ignorance isn't surprising given the lengths everyone went through to avoid the truth.
'Usa boycotted moscow games to protest soviet unions invasion of Afghanistan ' HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH
Bibi Landin The irony does not escape... it's always bad when someone else does it 😆
I was always impressed with the Soviet sport system. I was especially impressed by Soviet sport science.
More sport research than any other country in the world combined.Despite the fact that the data is 30-40 years old it's still applicable in many cases even today. But the system that created it is gone. Desperate conditions breed fantastic results but at what price ?
+Brandon Green Spot on man! Have you seen Red Army, the documentary? Also a fantastic documentary
Sanjay Soekhoe
I have seen Red Army. It did open my eyes somewhat but i already had a working knowledge of the Soviet sport system.
I was a client of Dr. Michael Yessis in the 80's (as i was attempting to be an olympic lifter) Subscribed to his quarterly the Soviet Sports Review and Yessis Review of Physical Education and Sport as well.Meeting him was my first exposure to Soviet sport. Later i trained with Jay Schroeder (of Adam Archuletta fame).Much of his training
philosophy was Soviet and Bulgarian based. Then there was my friend Soviet sprint coach and researcher Ben Tabachnik who was a "speed" consultant to the Chicago Bulls and Denver Broncos for a period of time.
Next there was Morris Silber who worked in the Leningrad Institute of Physical Culture.
Last but not least was friends for a short time with a Olympic weightlifter that was actually
a competitor in the Soviet Union. Could talk for days about them. Saw the Soviet volleyball team live in 87' in a round robin tournament at the old Laker forum in Inglewood, CA as well as the Soviet national team in basketball (minus Sabonis) at the San Diego sports arena about the same time
That is amazing! I know all these people, Tabachnik has some great books! I can't even imagine being surround by these great people, their books are already amazing, must have been at leat 10 times better in person.
What happend with your olympic weightlifting then?
Sanjay Soekhoe
For various reasons it fell flat not the least of which i was in the Navy for 12 years ! Now i am on the road to attempting to be a Master's Olympic lifter.
Ah I see, makes sense! All the best to you!
that story about the football brothers is terribly sad.
kareharpies Yes... why even let the teams compete if you already know who is supposed to win. Why have sports at all? Sucks!
This doc in a nutshell-- If you fund and support it, you can do miracles. But if you stop funding and supporting it, it's going to wither away.
The point of this doc was the horrors of the USSR behind the scenes although even they shyed away from the direct ugly truth. Go read a book by one of the people living in the ussr that was thrown in a work camp in Siberia. These athletes were literally fighting for their lives. Fuck up once and you're in Siberia at work camp walking ten miles to and from a job site everyday in negative temperature with no socks. If you stop walking they shoot you and keep it moving. I think you missed the point tbh.
Interesting how the last few minutes predicted a precipitous decline of Soviet/Russian sports, when as of today at the close of the 2020 Tokyo Olympics Russia won one gold medal for every 7.2 million of their people, while the US figure was lower at one gold for every 8.4 million Americans.
СССР Великая страна, с Великими людьми и Великими победами и достижениями.
The cowboy roping the Indian would not go over well in 2018 hahahaha
They never dominated baseball.
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Elena Baltacha RIP
Ugh, Nellie Kim. Biggest ego of any gymnast ever with the possible except of Khorkina. Was enjoying this til she made an appearance.
Pure American Propaganda! The USSR did so well in sports because people had pride in their country , unlike in the US they just did it for the money and fame. Sports was a way of representing your country for the Soviet citizens.
Gareth Peters Yeah no this has been confirmed a gazillion times over now by whistleblowers, there's been lengthy investigations into doping in the former German Democratic Republic who used the same system. It was systematic and pervasive. Patriotism shouldn't blind you that much. Mind you, other countries did it too... probably most of them, just less systematically, so not as easy to catch. But they all did it and still do...
Or they didnt wanna go to siberia
Go read gulag archipelago the book you moron! Written by the people who loved that country so much....bc if they didn't say they did they were tortured and killed after watching their entire family tortured and killed. Although your ignorance isn't surprising given the lengths everyone went through to avoid the truth.
@@LVXMagick ah the gulags
@@LVXMagick The Gulag archipelago is a work of art