Jamey Heath: Healing My Broken Parts | The Man Enough Podcast
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- Опубликовано: 12 сен 2021
- Co-host Jamey Heath opens up about his life, courageously sharing personal stories about being abused, infidelity, accountability, and the work it takes to put down our armor, create safe spaces, and repair.
This episode contains a discussion of sexual abuse that some may find triggering. Viewer discretion is advised.
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JAMEY HEATH: HEALING MY BROKEN PARTS
How can we hurt the people we love so much? Jamey Heath, award-winning producer, musician, and our beloved co-host, shares his dynamic story with profound authenticity on difficult topics including:
-- Being a survivor of sexual abuse, and how burying that trauma affected his life and relationships
-- Navigating a white world while maintaining his identity
-- Infidelity and betrayal
-- Accountability, therapy, 12-step programs and what finally led him to face his shit
Jamey’s courageous transparency gives us permission to put down our armor and open up, as he inspires us to do the work to heal, make amends and be fully human.
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Wow, I just came across this podcast. What a gift it is.This episode is so eye-opening. I'm a 29yr old, 5,11 white lesbian, who lives in one of the safest, opened-minded countries on earth. I don't have men like you in my life. I'm always checking if I'm safe. The most 'I'm a feminist'-guy, betrayed me the most in my life. Your awareness is so rare, listenting to your stories, friendship, pain makes me emotional, because it seems so genuine. When you ask questions, you seem to be really interested in the answer, without wanting a sexual favor in the end of the conversation. A transformational, rather than a transactional dialogue. I felt really seen, thank you.
Jamey's vulnerability was beautiful.
When Jamey shared what his therapist brought to light, I got chills.
Took the breath right out of me.
Thank you so much! I am a woman with trauma from sexual abuse perpetrated by men when I was a teen. I have felt so much anger and pain towards men in general as a result. Listening to a man share a similar story and be accountable for his past transgressions helps me find compassion for men again, which in turn helps me to reverse some of the internalization of hatred from others that resulted for me. It’s interesting how forgiveness and compassion for others makes me love myself more
19m- This is the single greatest episode I've seen of this show and I've seen them all.
Jamey is so powerful. He is now my favorite host (sorry Liz). Men rarely show this level of vulnerability so he is incredible. He owns the mistakes he's made but also says he's a survivor of sexual violence. Ordinary men don't do that in today's society but Jamey is no ordinary man. He's an exceptional man.
Also this level of representation is so important. Him speaking out gives men the courage to do the same. Bravo, Jamey and Man Enough Podcast. And thank you ❤️
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This episode was stunning, thank you so much to Jamey for telling his story and speaking his truth. It helps so many people to be open and not hide your true self. I also can't wait for Liz's episode, as a woman watching this podcast I always relate so much to everything she says and I'm truly excited to hear even more from her. Thank you all for doing this each week :)
A way to make spaces safe for WOMEN AND MEN (there everyone happy now?) is to allow them to speak freely, without gaslighting, minimizing, or interrupting. Although they were discussing allowing safe spaces for women in the video because MEN hold the privilege...
And, as women who are wanting of these environments, we must create the same spaces for men, too. It’s minimizing when we only champion those spaces for women. We can’t forget the silent battles men live with every day damn.
And, as women who are wanting of these environments, we must create the same spaces for men, too. It’s minimizing when we only champion those spaces for women. We can’t forget the silent battles men live with every day damn.
Yeah not everything un life is about women you know you are acostumbrated to have everyone
You should make a safe space for Men and Women to allow them to speak freely, without gaslighting, minimizing, or interrupting.
@@raulrussell2571 Ok add men to this... they were discussing spaces for women... I'm in agreement with everyone's comments here... lol.
That was the best question, " How can we make a space safe for everyone" and what does a safe space look like..
Love it men can be so open, transparent and Vulnerable...and say it how it is and has been for them.
Thank you guys for opening your hearts out.😊
Dear Justin, friends, family & team. I want to thank you from the bottom of my heart for the work you do. I first became aware of you through your Me Too panel discussion. It's my most watched RUclips video by far. I have bawled over that video more times than I can count. It's one I go back to whenever I need to believe in the good parts of humanity again.
My father is essentially a Harvey Weinstein. He has, to varying degrees, sexually scarred every single woman in his life, including me. I can't express enough to all of you what it means to see men finally grapple with these important issues, for the healing of themselves and the women in their lives. It is a literal exercise in healing for me. And every single podcast of yours has been that for me so far.
Jamey, thank you so much for your bravery and vulnerability. Thank you for shedding a light on the far-reaching, damaging effects of sexual abuse, especially for men, who feel forced to submit to the unwritten rule of being stoic, strong and unaffected at all times, no matter the pain they are facing. You never deserved that pain. We see you. You never should've had to be this kind of hero. You are one though. Thank you.
ETA: Pleeeease have Terry Real on. He's phenomenal as well.
what a beautiful comment, thank you for that. About to hear this episode too, I cant wait. Wishing you much healing and please continue to express yourself, you have a gift with words
*World’s biggest internet hug* 🤗
Thank you for sharing. The comment section is healing too. 🤍
Back in May, I blew up my life when, while blacked out, I had said something inappropriate to a woman I respected. This culminated in my "cancelation", being let go from my jobs, etc. It showed me that I was not only hurting (read: killing) myself but had really hurt others in the process. Once I got through the first few weeks and realized that I wasn't going to take my own life, I was terrified of not being able to find a way forward. Just as Jamey wondered, was I evil or just broken? I'd searched for what to do when someone in my situation was saying they knew there was a problem, that they needed help, and wanted to change, so as to be a part of the solution and not a problem. And I found next to nothing in that search. And then I remembered Justin's TedTalk that had so moved me. That led me first to his web series, then this book, and not long after that, this show began.
To say that this show has been a revelation, is to put it mildly. It has led me to any number of books on the subject (Man Enough, For The Love Of Men, and The Will To Change have been in constant rotation on Scribd), podcasts, TedTalks, and organizations (A Call To Men!) discussing the topics of conscious masculinity/healthy manhood. In particular, this conversation and Karamo's have really helped me to understand that there is a path forward and that the one I'm on is the most meaningful and healing one. It allowed me to begin to confront the sexual & physical abuse, feelings of abadonment from a father I've never met, and the bullying from my childhood through counseling, SMART Recovery meetings, and other resources like 1in6.org.
To finally stare that trauma in the face and feel it fully while in recovery is a level of pain that I wouldn't wish on anyone, but it's the work that must be done for all of us men in a similar situation to heal and hopefully be able to extend a hand to others that may need it too. As Tony Porter says (and I paraphrase), if women could have ended this abuse, it would've been gone a long time ago. It's up to us as fellow men to bring it to an end, together.
I can't say I know what amends looks like just yet, I'm still workig on that part, but I do know that shows like this are exactly the kind of thing that men that want to be better need and are desparately looking for. I love that Liz mentioned a sort of Recovery program for toxic masculinity because I had written the same in my journal just last week. I think shows like this are opening the door to what that looks like. A few more face-to-face conversations asking "How Are You?" will do every single one of us a world of good. So to Justin, Liz, Jamey, and everyone involved in this show, thank you from the bottom of my thankfully-still-beating heart.
Thank you so much for sharing this, and many times before in our comments, so openly and honestly. It means so much to us to see you doing the work and we know that it is extremely beneficial to the rest of the community too. We appreciate you. You are enough - please always remember that.
I commented earlier, but I wanted to also say “ Jamie, your story and words were so powerful on many levels”. Thank you.
26:23 "I've made mistakes before. I can live with that. I deserve darts thrown at me till the day that I die. But that doesn't mean I don't deserve compassion."
Jamey, I've been struggling with self acceptance after making mistakes in my life and that line really speaks to me.
Thank you Jamey for your honesty and vulnerability, this episode brought me to tears. As a mom of a 12 year old boy, I can't imagine your suffering, I really felt your pain. You are an amazing human being, and have a wonderful soul, I know you will keep touching lives with your story. And thank you Justin for this amazing project, I can't wait for Mondays to listen to a new episode! your message is being heard around the world! sending you all my love from Honduras, Central America.
So powerful. Thank you Jamey for owning your s*** and for the courage of your vulnerability.
This is one of your best episodes. Thanks, Jamey for sharing your story. Thanks for airing the episode. I watch every episode to see the types of conversations and types of friendshops that I want to have modeled. Thank you for producing such a powerful tool for change.
Also, please do produce an episode with Liz sharing her story. What she brings to the show is dynamite and it is not near as powerful without her witness and contribution.
Thank you, Steve. Liz's episode has already been recorded as well and will be released this Fall! Appreciate you being here and giving your feedback.
Wow! Jamey...You are Truely "Man Enough " to open up and share your journey of pain and healing.As well as admitting and apologizing for your mistakes and pain you have inflicted on the people in your life..Even though it is not an excuse for men who have been abused or molested as young boys to become abusers and molesters.you have proved have just once again that this does happen and how important it is to open up to somebody when it happens or that it did happen because it can prevent the victim from going through the same loss you have in your adult life. So hopefully this is an indirect message or rather plea to men to reach our and seek help even if it is tough..Thanks Again Man Enough Team..And Blessings🙏🙏🙏❤❤❤
So sad Justin didn't mention the title of what book he was reading. 😖 I love this episode so much. I really need to ask the men and boys in my life what I can do to make sure they have a safe space with me. They've always been such great safe spaces for me.
Beautiful as always. Thanks for making my Monday’s a time for healing. 🤍
Thank you guys so much for making this episode. Like Jamey, I myself had some childhood trauma that in the process of healing from. I suffered from physical and emotional abuse at the hands of my mother and step-father!!! I was also in a situation where I was sexually abused as well. I'm in therapy and doing the work in my process of healing. Mental health awareness is one of my passions, especially being a black man myself, I want to help erase the stigma and help create a safe space for everyone to heal. Jamey Heath, thank you so so much for being that safe space for me as a black man and also being LGBTQ+. You guys are helping me heal everyday!!!
Donald, thank you so much for sharing your journey. We're so glad you're here on this journey with us and applaud you for doing this hard work to heal.
These conversations are so needed for our community, the sincerity and authenticity of the content is unmatched.. Thank you for blessing us with this… touching so many important things, food for thought
My definition of safe space in general is when not only you are heard, not minimize or interrupted but also where you can be wrong and be corrected by the people that have compassion for where you are but are willing to teach you so you can be better. A safe space is where everybody is human and its able to learn from there humanity. You let your emotions, your though out you embrace them and your learn from the good and the wrong.
love you guys! Loveee this episode as a women is always a teaching moment seen men from other perspective
There’s nothing more beautiful, powerful, respectable, or manly than a man who’s strong enough and secure enough to be vulnerable! That wows me - every time! Those men are absolute studs!
This was so unbelievably powerful. I am at a loss for words. Thanks for sharing Jamey, thanks for airing this. Having been hurt by broken men in my past, I experienced healing through this powerful testimonial 👏🏾
thank you all so much for being so vulnerable... I am learning so much
Thank you guys!Thank you Jamey..it's always a pleasure to hear from you..your story is really emotional & just depicts how brave and vulnerable you are as a man to speak about it today and change to be a better man for the people around you..Was a honour to hear you speak Jamey..Thank you guys..wishing you a happy life and You are Enough!
I'm here like always every Monday morning!Ready to be hear Jamey's story!
Maaaan...... no words. Kudos to him and his recovery. ❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤
Wowwww, this really opened some channels for me..... Heavy, deep, long channels....Good job, guys. It helps to light the candle in the large, dark space... Thanks!
This was such an important episode. The discussions around being broken brought a quote I read recently to mind:
“We’re all broken. It’s what gives us strength. Only the broken can grow” - Mariel Pomroy
You guys really dove into what it means to grow after the realization of brokenness and I just loved this episode. Thank you.
Thank you for sharing such a poignant quote, and we are so glad you responded to the episode! We truly love Jamey and the bravery he models in sharing that with us. So glad to have you with us!
I know I've been repeating myself but, this is definitely the best podcast our there period!
Wow! I’m crying at the real and honest words. It is so refreshing and wonderful. Thank you! Thank you! Thank you!
Transparency is needed with those we can trust (on a mutual level) in order for us to fully heal.
Absolutely amazing! Thank you all for sharing this, specially Jamey.
This was the best episode. I always appreciate Jamey's words.
Thank you, Jamey. Your courage is truly inspiring.
Damn. Jamie. I am si honoured to be able to to listen to you, to what you have been through and to how you are dealing with it. I Hope you are now proud of were you are at. Your past actions and how you have dealt with them are so encouraging, so powerful and helpful to show us that with work and help we Can BE BETTER than yesterday, that there is hope. That we can change.
i now understand better your way of expressing yourself, and I just hope, you are not too tough on yourself, what a long way you have come. Thank you for being so open, so vulnerable and thank you for being a beautiful example on how to overcome our demonds, our fears, our tendencies.
Thank you. What an inspiration! Gracias 🧡
Beautiful, Jamey. Thank you for sharing your story 🙏
I just discovered you guys, saw a couple of episodes, but this one specifically has me shaking. Thank you all for your insight and more specifically Jamey for your vulnerability.
BTW, I'm staying. For sure.
Papa Sam, Mama Emily, and this episode made me cried so bad!😭 Thank you for sharing & being vulnerable, Jamey☺
Aw, Jamey! What a powerful episode! I’m so happy you gave him a space to share his story publicly, and the way he’s become aware and has worked on his past experiences also really reminded me of the episode with Karamo! Both have gone through a lot and hurt people on the way, but are now showing us that people can indeed change and become part of a positive force (Star Wars pun may or may not be intended) like this podcast! Truly amazing ❤️
Jesus said he that is without sin cast the first stone. No one should through darts at Jamey. Thank you Jamey for your transparency. I find that everyone can't handle your truth, and that causes most of us to hide are issues. I have seen people began casting stones when you share your truth. I see how therapy would be the only safe place. Some of us are broken but we have learned how to glue the pieces together and function through life. They say hurt people hurt people and I can see that in Jamey. As women we sometimes don't feel we measure up because I find woman to be the most judgemental. Here's to you Jamey for getting your life in order. God Bless!
Jamey. Thank you. Your redemption story is a beautiful one. This is something I’d see as a real redemption story so many people can work their own personal ways towards. You owned it, you didn’t gloss over it and you sought to right the wrongs and are still doing the work to keep making sure you do better because of the safe spaces you had to fall apart and be rebuilt again. And what a beautiful rebuilding you’ve shown for all of us to see. Thank you.
Now following and subscribed to " The Man Enough Podcast" as Jamey is a long time friend from years and years ago I have not seen in decades. Good to hear his voice and his story. He is not only a talented man, but grew, as we all have, by being hurt, as "Hurt people, hurt people." Then we search to heal ourselves and repair as best we can. Much love to all three of you. And so does God love us. Jamey, you are one Cool Cat. Therapy!!! Word!!!
Thank you for teaching us how to start making spaces safe not only by words but by showing us what one looks like. Jamey, that was an amazing display of vulnerability and personal accountability... a great example for others. This is a great episode to see where you are all at with the work you are doing so that we all know that there will be days, like today, that are uncomfortable, but in that discomfort is where the work gets done.
Liz, great advice... if we see something and we're not sure, ask. It may not be much to the asker, but to that woman it could make the difference.
Just a really really great episode. Thank you! Love you all!
Thank you for sharing this episode and thank you jamey for being so strong, humble and share your story. I feel weird, im feel soo emotional right now. The question about 'how can we make safe space for other people' is stuck in my brain. Thank you for sharing this conversations, they are very necessary, i learn new things. Thank you!
Thank you Jamey for sharing your heart and soul. It helped me to understand a bit more why Ive been so hurt by cheaters. I could really feel your pain when you talked about your mother too. I'm sorry you had to go through that, having to be grown up when you should have been a child having child level responsibilities. I went and found SoulPancake and the blend and it was awesome to see how you four get along together to parent your son. What a solid foundation he has, when there was a chance that he was going to have a rocky foundation.
Beautiful conversation!! ❤️ 👏🏽
This is just powerful. Is so beautiful seeing a listening a man being this vulnerable and honest. THIS is being man enough.
Thank you Jamey for sharing your story. It was a beautiful and smart discussion. I loved it. I love the feeling I feel after your podcast. Watch u next week❤
I absolutely love what this podcast is doing! Thank you for doing this!!!
Jamey thanks to open your heart, by doing that you encourage other men to open up and find a safe space to share difficult times, possible trauma, or abuse, you are brave.
Send you a big hug!!!
That is what "men up" means to me. Vulnerability is so powerful and manly. Thank you for sharing and using your trauma to bring more light to this Univers Jamey. ❤
Jamey,your resilience and strength brings hope to humanity .
Thanks so much for sharing your story and being vulnerable in a world where all of us are struggling to face ourselves and our past experiences.
Thank you for your appreciation. It means a lot to Jamey.
This episode was so good. Jamie was so venerable and incredible.
When Jamey said that his wife saw him and saw that he still had good in him and his potential I lost it bruh. Literally everything I've been feeling the last couple years. First time I've ever heard a man be vulnerable like this. This podcast is therapy for my soul. Thank you for creating this space to have these conversations.
Thank you for sharing how this affected you. Jamey is quite unique, but he doesn't have to be. We'll all find more joy and growth if we let ourselves work through our pain like this.
Wow !!! Thank you Jamie for sharing your vulnerability… your mistakes were NOT in vain.💟
Again, I am so thankful for the healing messages.
Thank you.
Thank all 3 of you for this. I've been going through several videos since this showed up this morning. It's truly helpful.
Thank you Jamey for such remarkable vulnerability. 🤗🤗🥰🥰.
I just watched this after going back in your channel and listening to all the podcasts already made and I cannot thank you enough for giving Jamie the space to share his story . The way this helped me is beyond words. Thank you for being our safe space.
Thank you. That means a lot. Glad you're here with us.
man, I love you guys. Such important role models!
One of the most raw and powerful podcasts I have ever listened to. As a woman, it gave me an insight on perhaps why men behave the way they do and in turn leave so much hurt behind. My tears were rolling down my cheek listening. Women want to understand and we want to stop blaming ourselves for the pain. Because that's what we do. We tell ourselves that it's our fault. Thank you, all of you, for this safe space!
Breathtakingly moving. Fifty-five minutes of sublime vulnerability, honesty, hard-won wisdom and emotional plenitude. One of the most transformative programs I've ever had the privilege to experience.
The best part about all of this is that men are allowed to make mistake just like women but the fact that there's a person here acknowledging those mistakes which is a big deal because I've had men in my life who have never acknowledged the mistakes they've made, the hurt they've passed forward.
Wooooow.....
First of all, thank you Jamey for honoring us, the listeners with your story and vulnerability.
Secondly, thank you for your courage.
And lastly, Man Enough Podcast, you are a gem. In a world flooded with Podcasts, this podcast is one podcast I subscribed to so that I don't miss the gem shared here. I love the authenticity, rawness of this podcast. Don't change in the future please.
That means so much to us! We are so grateful for you being here with us. We strive for authenticity for our community, and so glad it resonates. Excited to hear more of your thoughts on the episodes.
Sending you love and prayers. Thank you
Love y’all podcast and how human everything is, definitely surprised this doesn’t get much views on yt😢 but keep grinding we (or at least I am) listening
Thank you. Our main push has been to the podcast (e.g. Spotify, Apple, etc.) so it's partly a lack of marketing to this version. We appreciate your support and we know it will grow over time.
OMG this has been one of the best podcasts so far! Jamie you are an amazing person for sharing your story with us! We all have a story to tell!
We do indeed.We encourage more people, especially men, to share their stories. It's healing for them and for people that hear them to understand that they too can find safe spaces to do so.
Thank you Jamey.
Great podcast! Thanks a lot! You guys have make me want to go to therapy for the first time in my life and made me realize all the privilege I have and how my masculinity affects the people around me! Thanks a lot for creating this space it’s helping my to make changes in my life!
Thank you Jamey 🙏🏼♥️
Thank you, Jamey.
This podcast was extremely candid, therapeutic, relatable, and understandable. I appreciate this particular episode. Food For Thought.......and the Heart/Soul. Thanks For Sharing.
Thank you! So glad it resonated with you.
Thank you.
I love this podcast. Shows that men need as much as women for help. God bless you three. A big hug from Santiago Chile
Thank you! Sending love.
Time to listen for the 20th time. My favorite
Beautiful closing moments. Sending hugs.
Why can't the world be a safe space? That question hits different. It's a great video. I know this feeling of always needing to know whats going on behind me.
Wow!
I love this show!! As I watched every episode, I learned more about me all the time
Thanks for joining the conversation! We're happy to have you with us.
I love this conversation.
This is beautiful! ❤️
this episode is so powerful!! i could not love this podcast more, can’t wait to show this podcast to my boyfriend♥️
Thank you! We love you too. So glad you're going to show this to your boyfriend - we can't wait to hear what he thinks.
Jamie. You are awesome!!!
i love what Jamey speaks about safe places for men, but sometimes i also think is that there is a miss conception about it. A lot of people see it as "oh, women have safe places and men don't" as if someone had left them out in the creation of an institution; what actually happened was that women didn't feel safe anywhere, so took it in there hands to create a safe place. No one stud up one day and said "The kitchen is going to be the place where women can talk, gossip, etc." nor did they say "from this day on women will go together to the bathroom so they can talk about all their intimate situations" NNOOO As a group that felt mistreated, disrespected and not taken in consideration, women took the kitchen and all the other places were we were being confined in and turned them into the places we could regroup with no one judging or suspecting. Now its men's turn to create those spaces, where they can acknowledge what baggage they carry and turn it to something better.
Jayme you're accountable
I loved this conversation. Im gonna keep it real and just say, yeah it’s easy to tell anyone how important therapy is. I agree. It’s a hard reality to actually try to do it. Therapy is expensive. Even with your better help discount. Having to pay that much is not financially realistic for a lot of people. So it’s great to highlight these things but the reality is there are barriers.
We know and we completely agree. It's a huge challenge that we've spoken about from time to time, especially in our series with Healthline last year. Ultimately, health care needs to be affordable and available to all, if we truly want to create a healthy society with people that are empowered to heal and grow.
when we come to the end of ourselves, that’s when God steps in. I salute you Jamey Heath, for your organic transparency. Thank you.
Thank you. It's a beautiful thing to see someone open up like this.
🙏🏽 phenomenal!!!!!
It's really beautiful how Jamey brings his story so honestly, isn't it?
Inspired by the Ted Talk, we're now present in the Netherlands hosting gatherings and talking about that comes with being a man and a human! Would love to have you on our podcast! Starting in November!
Opening up my figurative heart is a serious challenge and enjoyable work. That needs to be addressed truthfully.
Displaying Indifference concerning the struggles of Boys and Men, this situation starts with myself.
Afterwards talk about what you have learned with a person that can be trusted to be there for you.
-John 8:32,44
This is just beautiful ❤
Thank you. It's amazing how open Jamey was here.
Please please pLease don’t ever stop making this podcast
Thank you so much. Please, please, please share it (especially the audio version) so that we can keep making it. :)
@@WeAreManEnough you got it!
Please do a podcast about trans men. They need a space too. And I feel like they have a perspective on masculinity and manhood in society and in certain spaces with cis men and women and just in general that isn’t talked about enough.
they had Alok on already. Go to their video section you will see it. It was really awesome.
@@lumav7440 I know I saw that ep already but alok isn’t a trans man.
@@skyebrooklyn yeah I think I misunderstood. I don't understand all the different terms for trans yet I'm new to it, my cousin just came out a couple of months ago. :-)
We completely agree. We are in the process of booking trans men and more non-binary people. It has been more an issue of scheduling than intention, we promise. Some other really cool projects in the works in that space at Wayfarer Studios too. Thank you for being here and for pushing us to pursue true representation.
@@lumav7440 that’s okay. It’s perfectly okay to not know something. But just for future reference, there are trans men and women, trans masculine and feminine and other identities, they’re not all the same. Trans just means u don’t identify with the gender u were assigned at birth.
34:30 the phrases "be a man" and "man up" is often times said by women, whether that be from mothers to their sons, wives to their husbands, girlfriends to their boyfriends, or sisters to their brothers. How about we teach women to stop down playing men's expirences or feelings and stop brow beating men with the terms "toxic masculinity" when they don't feel like sharing their feelings. Have the door open if men want to share their feelings and let us go through that door when we are good and damn ready to.
Thank you for your perspective. There's still a lot of work to do on all sides. In some cultures, women are propagating the oppressive aspects of traditional masculinity as much as men are, if not more. Men certainly need the space to find their own balance, while also being pushed to more immediately act in ways that create a more equitable, respectful and balanced world between people of all gender identities. We appreciate you being here and expressing your unique view on what is needed to move humanity forward in a positive direction.
@@WeAreManEnough thanks. I would be curious as to the view point of the cast as to whether femininity can be toxic. If one side of the spectrum has a tendency to be "toxic", wouldn't you agree the other side can be as well? I think there's a lot of push back to those terms, because it often comes off as divisive and one-sided, even if there are good intentions behind.
@@justicewilson7929 At Man Enough, we don't use the term "toxic masculinity" (or toxic anything) because it's so polarizing and alienating. We absolutely believe there's work to be done on both sides. Liz is a very different, modern type of feminist who does not adhere to the anti-men mentality that a lot of the original feminist movement of the 70s brought. Her book is titles, For The Love of Men, after all.
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Mentally nutritious! TYSM.
4:43 Yes, as you should because he's trying to tell you, "Don't do it, again," in an "I'm still your friend" way. This should be the same type of revelation as the one you had when you realized that finishing your wife's sentences was bad. Getting inside someone's personal space is bad. We are not extras in your movie. Lose that sense of entitlement. It hurts your relationships.
37:15 Yes, imagine what it's like to be attracted to men, and always know that men physically could take your life at any moment if they wanted to do so.
One thing I’m curious about is, is the fear thay I and many men I’m sure have, that if we actuallt talk about the stuff we’re thinking or hurting over, if we cry erc. Will that lessens us in the eyes of women? Becsuse we are often told it will. I’ve been told it before, many times by women. So, something I’m curious about, cause obviously every individual is different but eh..
We hear you about that concern. Women have internalized that view much more in some societies than others, but we agree that it is present everywhere. That said, what's the cost of suppressing your feelings and struggles, even if some people (including women) see that as a weakness? Who do you want to fill your life with and which people truly uplift you, allow you to be who you are, ultimately help you to be stronger? It's up to each of us to define a new normal and reject the oppression of suppression. So we encourage you to tell those people that tell you that you're not enough, or lesser, that you don't agree. Show them the strength that comes with the courage to be honest and liberate yourself from your pain. In the long run, we believe that it will help you, and all people, to heal and connect more deeply with each other. Thank you for being here and for sharing your honest, vulnerable truth with this question.
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