@@peachesandpoets look, nothing is 100% genuine 100% of the time. It IS CALLED RESPECTABLE RECIPROCITY. AND YOU BETTER DANCE TO THE TUNE!! And butter that doggone biscuit!!!!
That's cap. I haven't seen one do that. Just be honest it's a community of black women who spend their lives trying to downgrade us by bigging up them. They talk about their hate for us more than their supposed love for them. But we act like those divesters and swirlers don't exist.
Exactly. He goes out of his way to say negative things about black women, disguise as jokes. He's never been held accountable and see us as easy targets.
Congratulations on hitting 30s. Next step in to them with your full chest as well, take up space in the room after BEING OBSERVANT FIRST. People will show you *EVERY SINGLE TIME* who they are, proceed accordingly. Some will be wonderful Some will be disappointments. Put yourself first, a drowning person cannot help anyone. Stay focused and may you be great!
🙏🏾The reason I support this Kevin and his ecosystem is because he supports BW. I love his relationship with his family and his beautiful wife. I don’t believe we should put people on a pedestal but I do like what Kev is choosing every day to stand for. We are not looking for perfection we just need to see something.
and saying to the black guy "you were double slaved"........as a Black-Brit we don't claim them. They have always been terrible but the accent and the laughing makes them seem harmless. A lot of UK men feel that they have to hate black women as a rite of passage kmt
@@Maceyee1he was calling him a potato slaves that his mom is Irish a double slave I believe comprised of both his Irish and Black Trinidadian parentage.
With this whole Shts/Gigs situation, at this point black women HAVE to only choose those who are allies. If you don’t like us, we don’t like you. And you need to like us UNAPOLOGETICALLY and LOUDLY
One thing I really want everyone to think about following this SnG situation is why is it so normalized for people to ask bm if they like bw? Have you ever heard another race of men get continually asked if they like and date the women in their own race?! To me it's crazy. Everyone expects bw to be unloved and its honestly infuriating.
James and Fuhad almost lost me when they said Drake was winning the beef because Kendrick’s lyrics were too hard to decipher. I was like 😬 yeahhhh yall should be quiet sometimes 😂😂
They got so much shit for that. James feels like Drakes twin so he took Kendrick’s diss personal 😂. But yeah, after that video I knew what they were about.
Enjoyed Angel going in. Very disappointed in S&G. Even if we aren't your preference. We're still your sisters, mother's, aunts, cousins, homegirls, family, community and supporters. Why not stand up for us?
James and Fuhad went to Flagrant because they see themselves more in these Americans than in Black Americans. However Andrew showed them he doesn't see them as equivalents.
Cause what you not gone do is call me and my mama a potato slave to my face AND James mama is white and they still disrespected her. They have the backbone of cooked pasta
Also the Flagrant podcast came out in JULY! Why are you just now apologizing in SEPTEMBER?! They felt no type of way about what went down until the backlash.
The black women who listened to them did so because they thought these were safe black men. Seeing them on Andrew's sofa cackling while Andrew denigrated black women was disappointing. Either way, I got denigrated by a black woman for saying this, but forcing these people to apologize is silly. Black women need to learn to remove their attention and move on. No explanation, just remove our energy.
When things like this happen, the audience doesn't really ask for an apology (not from what i've seen). They are more so looking for an explanation as to the why. People just decided to "apologize" to try to appease the audience.
i dont think its forced, its just the smart move to make..you better get some sense and apologize to the women of your community..white folk durn sho aint coming to save you. no other community is coming to save you. at the end of the day, they belong to the black community..make it ritght as best you can. simple as that.
@@thecatthatcan8976 I hear you. I saw calls for an apology and people saying versions of, "let's wait to see what they say before we decide" type of thing. I'm suggesting that BW need to believe what they see when it is that flagrant, and not wait to be placated. Our energy is coveted currency, hence the rage baiting that people usually engage in hoping we will bite. I don't know, I guess it's all valid as there's no blueprint for dealing with the disrespect.
I don't support them, 😊but I agree. I feel the "apology" was a whole bunch of NOTHING. On this podcast alone, they've cited 2 separate incidents when these people didn't support bw. They apologized for 1 incident by blaming someone else when THEY SUPPLIED THE ANSWERS. The man didn't force them to say something against black women. He asked a question, and they VOLUNTEERED the answer then blamed it on being "uncomfortable"
Thank you for saying something, over here we are lead to believe the racism is not as open and widely broadcasts as it is in America. We are often taught that people of color across the pond have microagressive acts of racism here and there, verses what we openly see like targeted police shootings and politicians outright making racist statements.
As a SNG subscriber this isn’t the first instance of anti-blackness that I perceived. First it was their response to the Little Mermaid live action, then the Atlanta to Spain (shitty) flight and now this. I’m with Angel you can tell who they like and in 2024, believe people the first time, so I unsubscribed from them.
I didn't see those episodes but I did see the one with the AI generated women FULL of snow bunnies. One brown AI person, they called everyone baddies except the brown one. Dude! These women are fake!
Yessss that rubbed me the wrong way too omg! There were so many instances that I've brushed off, that I'm seeing in this comment section. I'm ashamed I didn't unsubscribe and block sooner.
I’m disappointed. It’s my fault for never watching a full episode. I used to watch one of their segments that I saw on shorts and then would skip the whole rest of the episode so I didn’t even catch it. Super frustrating to see. I haven’t watched in awhile but I’ve unsubscribed now
You know why people always say Kev and Tony be pandering to black women? It’s because so many other platforms purposely choose to disrespect and demean them.
And to be clear, Shane Gillis only pushed back on the Downs jokes because his brother, I think, has Downs Syndrome. He's OK with racist, sexist, LGBTQ jokes, though. As long as it's not something that directly affects them or someone they love, they don't care. As for James and Fujad, their mistake was going on the Andrew Schulz podcast in the first place. Andrew gets worse every year on the racism tip.
I loved that he did push back, but there is that element of would he have done so if he wasn't so directly affected by it. Side note - his episode on SNL is one of the funniest I've seen in recent years! That Jamaica sketch?! 😂😂😂😂😂😂
British black men tend to prefer snowbunnies tbh. Listening to the SnG's podcast, I just knew. However, there is a limit. What they let slide on Flagrant is something different. You are allowed to have your preferences, but don't go around disparage black women or don't disrespect black women (also don't be complacent. there's a limit to what you let slide that others say).
I was looking for someone to say this! Cause their preference is clear if u watch the show. But the times I’ve seen they have never been disrespectful. And now they got caught up being like u said complacent.
Im glad they got on the host too bc her response was I’m not from Atlanta. Ma’am he said he hasn’t seen any baddies in ATL, that means ALL WOMEN WHO ARE IN ATL not women from ATL. So if you sitting your ass in ATL for any length of time they mean you.
As a Black Woman (living in The USA); I absolutely LOVE how KevOnStage & H.T.T. RIDE FOR BLACK WOMEN. THANK YOU ANGEL. I thank GOD that my husband RIDES FOR BLACK WOMEN, THE SAME WAY. 💯❤✊🏾
Ain’t nobody who ever seen ANY SnG episode would EVER think them two fellas like Black womenfolk in a sexual way 😂. They are prettyyyy clear (and bold) on their preferences being beige
@@thiscatrocksFuhad does tend to just match whatever James says whenever he gives opinions on things from what I’ve seen. He seems kind of passive or something
@@Rae777I don't even feel like it's passivity as much as it's maintaining plausible deniability. The calculation seems to be that James can get away with more and also he's built up his persona as the more flagrant and daring one while Fuhad is the more down-to-earth, reasoned character.
I didn't even know about this drama, but I loved every minute of Angel calling everybody out! I even went to see Flagrant cover the apology, and I'm already annoyed. They are trying to laugh it off. It's very corny. We need Angel to go over there and see if they try it!
I was literally about to finally sign up for their log cabin thing because they'd started teasing episodes, then this came out lol. Lemme take my talents to south beach 😂
I’m not gonna lie. I was already heartbroken from shit and gigs. Also going through a break up and I’m just excited to see you guys post and I’m like I saw the title and I’m like did they not talk about the SNG situation because I’m like they had them on there. We was all rooting for them just for them to spit in our face is crazy Because of the podcasts that invited them on when they were barely breaking through were black like dude yall can’t be for real, but not surprised by it at all… That apology was very I’m sorry we fucked up our bag
I feel bad when I think this about real life events. In saying that I need a half season of SVU dedicated to this with a mashup with Organized Crime during the arrest episodes.
I don't watch them boys but that apology was sandwiched right before their podcast and they apologized to their "community" not black women. they'll be fine monetarily but they definitely treated black women as an afterthought.
After seeing more of the podcast, they also allowed them to talk trash about their own Nigerian and Trini/Irish cultures, so I'm thinking that's why they addressed the "community".
Thats cause they had more to apologize for lmao The let the Irish Disrespect slide too much too. If I was Irish I woulda been highly offended at what Andrew said. He dragged that shit too far. Like how you let this man drag your whole life and disrespect every community you’re apart of. Lmao They need to cancel themselves 😂
I had no problem with SnG's Atlanta statements. Diff culture, diff preferences. The cowardice shown during the Flagrant podcast is what bothered me. They didnt defend against the racist statements about BW or themselves. It was sad to watch.
I also didn't take issue with it. I did take issue with the woman's reply because she clearly didn't get he was still talking about her. It was to put herself above the women he deemed unbaddies which made her look silly.
They didn't defend because it's how they always felt. They like mixed and white girls. They are still wounded women when they were girls made fun of them🙄.
No the people expect that kind of talk from Andrew, a white person, not with a black person. We expect when your in the company of another race who is speaking about us in that manner to defend, not laugh and go along. THAT'S THE POINT.
Yall didn’t cover the S&Gs story correctly. They had an old podcast when they overtly said that black men don’t like black women and white women are the standard. The Flagrant podcast just exposed what they have already said most of the time.
Do you know what video it was, or rather how long ago this video was? I know they have like 300 videos or something so I’m not asking you to find it if you don’t remember.
James and Fuhad have outright said in the past things that make it clear that they don't really care about the feelings of black women they don't know personally, and they hardly actually care about their audience of black women. I know that they were uncomfortable, but they weren't uncomfortable enough.
Andrew Schulz even came out and said they had the ability to say what they wanted taken out of the episode and the part about black women wasn't one of those things.
This!! I hope we as black women just leave the shxts n gigs content in the dust where it belongs. Don't comment. Unfollow. Unsubcribe. And if it still shows up in your social media, block, or click "don't recommend channel" . Let their preferences support them from now on.
Part of why I ❤ this podcast is that you guys have such a measured approach to fleshing out complicated topics. You made me look at the ShxtnGigs situation differently than I did before, but with care.... with teaching-ness, with fairness, and always with love. 🙌🏾
The women on the podcast….Lex and Drea the thing I observed was they didn’t think they were included in the “no baddies” in Atlanta. They were in Atlanta right? They didn’t say there aren’t in NATIVE Atlanta baddies. The whole I’m not offended was giving “I’m not like other girls,” real bad. They weren’t like oh she’s a baddie are you a native baddie oh, you’re from Houston or Boston.
As Houston transplants, they already hold a separatist attitude. Very much a “them” versus “us” mentality and this is coming from a neutral party from South Florida.
@@UpAndAtEmAddie yep, that was evident to me as well. I'm from neither. I just thought it was interesting that they didn't realize they were definitely in Atlanta and thus from the guys perspective, it wouldn't matter.
As a black British woman....carribean too, the black men over here have been whipped by white women for yeeaarrrssss. The carribeans have been in England since the 50s so the integration of white culture is pretty strong and for my carribean men, I remember seeing them talk bad about black girls and date white women allllll the time, especially if he was brought up in a city that is not as diverse you will naturally prefer the white woman. I watch these guys podcast simply for the mental break and lighthearted nature. I ABSOLUTELY NEVER EXPECTED them to be advocates for the black community in England let alone the states!!!! Angel there is absolutely that vibe that they don't date black women. Your from the states so you won't be able to necessarily hear the cadence of whiteness in their voice but from what I'm aware of they aren't from black black black parts of England, fuhad was like just outside of London in Dagenham and then went to Nigeria for schooling for a while then cam back and went to Manchester (main city but still very white) I meeann yikes and James Northampton oooffff, so the proximity to black culture is going to be far. I think if you was to ask black British women who support them did you expect anything different, most of us would say tbh naaaaa cuz black men over aren't so forthcoming with their blackness and pander to whites a lot and I don't know why... Well I do but you know!! I think because America is bigger thus having more support from the black women you guys wills be louder about your disappointment naturally because there is more of you but I think the lack of cultural understanding with the black British culture and the nuiances of who they are, you've completely missed and put a lot of responsibility on them when it should have been zero in the first place. Black people who live in major cities like London, Birmingham, Manchester, Liverpool and have access to people like them on a regular basis will see who these types of guys are from the jump. Oh yhhh they speak slang but they're not mandem at all theres a roughness and grit that we have being a black brit living in poverty, that you can identify very quickly. Thats my piece on the matter, I think they'll be fine and I think they'll realise like oh shit I actually didn't realise black women rode for us that hard.
As a fellow Black british woman, you nailed it. I used to watch them for the laughs but expect nothing deep from them. The clue is in their brand name, people.
This is it. I'm not a Black British woman, but as a Black woman with Black European male relatives I definitely get the nuisance that many missed. They are truly just meant for light hearted banter. I'm so sorry yall expected more from them 😅
Yes Angel!!! And Kevin, I agree! I think it’s about having integrity. King of Reads and Shayna Conde have great responses on the ShxtsNGigs response as well. Black women don’t care abt desirability, we value respect. To allow someone to denigrate not only your audience but your own community is cowardly and a slap in the face. It’s abt standing for something. They pretty much othered themselves and proved themselves to be those that are panderers and not true supporters of all in the black community. To say you were caught off guard? As Shayna Conde stated in a video response that’s where your integrity comes into play.
The thing about S&G that people are starting to realize is that on their own podcast the have made some anti-Black women statements while in the same breath expressing their preference for white women. Again, not sure why Black women would support this. Let white women build their brand.
I think that James and Fuhad were clearly uncomfortable when Andrew made other offensive comments like about Nigerians for instance but when the black women "jokes" were said they decided to laugh along.
Angel is right. Don't matter what you prefer. Get on that podcast and say black women are the preference. Don't matter if you got a white woman at home. BLACK WOMMMEEENN!!!!
@@jamescoleman1574it’s a smarter business decision but still a lie. They saw who bought tickets to their live shows. They let that man mess up their bag.
@@cdubb8827Some video of him and his (then) white wife from the 1970s resurfaced. He was talking about black women being too militant, angry and unfeminine.
Angel went in and I love it. My issue on the “apology” minus all the basic surface level PR crap is how you say “there is no excuse” and then immediately start with the excuses?!? They lost me instantly there.
Angel’s jokes went over their head and they seemed uncomfortable with her “full blackness” (whatever that means). That’s when I knew what category to put them in my head.🙃 I never knew them before that interview.
I remember on Making the Band Diddy had Danity Kane step out one by one and do a full spin to see if they had gained weight. 🤮 he looked at D. Woods and said, " You a burger away." 🫠 to have the audacity, authority, ability whatever word you want to use to parade people in front of you like cattle 😫 Diddy was never a walking red flag, he's the big sign you see on the side of the highway telling you there's a accident ahead and you need to change lanes. 🥴
The “apology” was trash. That was an explanation, a poor one at that. James couldn’t even look into the camera and Fuhad was just an echo. It was all about them and not the people who were affected by their complicity. They need some PR training. It also should have been a non monetized video, not attached to a monetized episode. I really liked them, but I love myself more. I unsubscribed
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Angel was 1000000%%%% correct. When black women are buttering your bread you BETTER butter back
When has that EVER been the case though????
But they aren’t buttering Shits and Git’s bread 🤷🏾♀️ not by the margin she’s thinking
YOU BETTER BUTTER BACK!!! 😂😂
@@thatgirlkells5505we need to stop being slow learners. At some point you have to assume there is no support to us until proven otherwise.
@@peachesandpoets look, nothing is 100% genuine 100% of the time. It IS CALLED RESPECTABLE RECIPROCITY. AND YOU BETTER DANCE TO THE TUNE!! And butter that doggone biscuit!!!!
That man was mad at the black women effect when it was predominantly white men that started it to show appreciation to their black women.
That's cap. I haven't seen one do that. Just be honest it's a community of black women who spend their lives trying to downgrade us by bigging up them. They talk about their hate for us more than their supposed love for them. But we act like those divesters and swirlers don't exist.
We always get blamed. Obsessed 😂
That's a lie. This was a swirled thing
Exactly. He goes out of his way to say negative things about black women, disguise as jokes. He's never been held accountable and see us as easy targets.
Lies.
When a black woman says “I could have said…” you KNOW yo feelings about to get hurt!
Baaaaaaaaaby believe it like you BELIEVE IN JESUS AND SHEA BUTTER!!! 😂😂😂😂
Yeen neva lied 😂
Indeed the full clip is about to be emptied, scorched earth and well salted!!!
As a black man from England i loved Angel's rant on Shxts n Gigs😂😂😂
As a black woman tip toeing into her 30s, I am so glad that Angel spoke on the shxts n gigs controversy with her WHOLE chest!
Congratulations on hitting 30s. Next step in to them with your full chest as well, take up space in the room after BEING OBSERVANT FIRST. People will show you *EVERY SINGLE TIME* who they are, proceed accordingly. Some will be wonderful Some will be disappointments. Put yourself first, a drowning person cannot help anyone. Stay focused and may you be great!
Angel came with full truth and zeal... Never let someone belittle your core audience
🙏🏾The reason I support this Kevin and his ecosystem is because he supports BW. I love his relationship with his family and his beautiful wife. I don’t believe we should put people on a pedestal but I do like what Kev is choosing every day to stand for. We are not looking for perfection we just need to see something.
That part!
Same
I love what he represents and the way he is
Exactlyyyyyy
They have a squad of black excellence when it comes to content creators ❤ their vow renewal was beautiful to watch and see!
💯💯💯
A yt man calling you “Potato Slaves” to your face--is absolutely insane!!
and saying to the black guy "you were double slaved"........as a Black-Brit we don't claim them. They have always been terrible but the accent and the laughing makes them seem harmless. A lot of UK men feel that they have to hate black women as a rite of passage kmt
He was calling Irish people potato slaves
That's a British nuance
Wouldn't potatoe slave be Irish 🇨🇮
@@Maceyee1he was calling him a potato slaves that his mom is Irish a double slave I believe comprised of both his Irish and Black Trinidadian parentage.
With this whole Shts/Gigs situation, at this point black women HAVE to only choose those who are allies. If you don’t like us, we don’t like you. And you need to like us UNAPOLOGETICALLY and LOUDLY
Please say this for the people on the back!
Agreed! Say it with ya whole entire chest FR!!!!
We need to support podcast that uplift us!
One thing I really want everyone to think about following this SnG situation is why is it so normalized for people to ask bm if they like bw? Have you ever heard another race of men get continually asked if they like and date the women in their own race?! To me it's crazy. Everyone expects bw to be unloved and its honestly infuriating.
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Yeah Gary Owens talks about it on a lot of his interviews as well as a lot of lesser known comedians
What's infuriating is how black women don't get it yet and continue to blindly support those that don't like them.
and it’s all because our skin is dark. like lmao what?
They ignore that because it brings too many questions like why you the only men like that ? And why you proud of that?
Thank you, Angel for standing up for black women. ❤
James and Fuhad almost lost me when they said Drake was winning the beef because Kendrick’s lyrics were too hard to decipher. I was like 😬 yeahhhh yall should be quiet sometimes 😂😂
Ngl I'm not a fan of their podcast and I saw this clip I said "Oh that's why..." 😂😂😂
🤣🤣🤣Them choosing Drake over Kendrick tracks.
That's when I started to side eye them honestly, it was always crystal clear they didn't prefer black women.
That’s when I started giving them heavy side-eyes
They got so much shit for that. James feels like Drakes twin so he took Kendrick’s diss personal 😂. But yeah, after that video I knew what they were about.
Defending BW is clearly not the norm for them or that "fight or flight" response, as they claim, would not have occurred.
it was a lie anyway 😂😂 they were laughing comfortably
@@KayDSavage-dy6of right lol
*They were not nervous laughing, so they are on some BS*
Imagine blaming fight or flight, when you neither fought nor flew 😂😂😂❤
@@natalienurse403 😂😂😂
Enjoyed Angel going in. Very disappointed in S&G. Even if we aren't your preference. We're still your sisters, mother's, aunts, cousins, homegirls, family, community and supporters. Why not stand up for us?
They don’t care lol
They not like us Kendrick already told you
This is a thing I've noticed with many men as a whole. If they aren't physically attracted to you they don't see your value and treat you as such.
Cause y'all aren't the only ones we like to be around.🤷🏾♂️🤷🏾♂️
Nobody likes defending people who never stop complaining about unimportant things. Make the main thing the main thing and stick to it
Katt Williams is a whole prophet. “If Diddy wants to party, you got to tell him no.”
😂😂😂
YOU GO TO TELL HIM NO!!!
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That ain't a prophecy that's experience 😅😅...like all them other folks that say Puff had parties then he had party parties
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James and Fuhad went to Flagrant because they see themselves more in these Americans than in Black Americans. However Andrew showed them he doesn't see them as equivalents.
Very well said!!
Cause what you not gone do is call me and my mama a potato slave to my face AND James mama is white and they still disrespected her. They have the backbone of cooked pasta
Dang you think that's what it was? I can't stand Schulz but I watched up until he got racial then switched.
It was booked bc it’s (unfortunately) a highly rated podcast, just like the last tour. It’s promo.
This was a bar 🔥
Also the Flagrant podcast came out in JULY! Why are you just now apologizing in SEPTEMBER?! They felt no type of way about what went down until the backlash.
Damn so they're sorry they got called on the carpet. Damn shame
Because their female fanbase is not watching Flagrant, we’d be up in arms if it was on their personal channels
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oh wow! Thank you for sharing this because this makes a world of difference.
Yeah, when the pouring minds clip came out, people brought back up the Andrew podcast
Not seeing baddies on ATL is like not seeing baby oil at Diddy’s house
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Winning comment 🤣🤣🤣
Come ON 🤦🏾♀️😂💀
WOOOOOOW!
Ay yoo!!! 😭😭😭
35:19 Kevin whispering “oh I didn’t know clapped meant uuuugly…” made me giggle so hard! 🤣🤣🤣 You can tell he was thrown off! 🤣🤣🤣🤣
😂😂😂😂he was so stunned
The black women who listened to them did so because they thought these were safe black men. Seeing them on Andrew's sofa cackling while Andrew denigrated black women was disappointing.
Either way, I got denigrated by a black woman for saying this, but forcing these people to apologize is silly. Black women need to learn to remove their attention and move on. No explanation, just remove our energy.
When things like this happen, the audience doesn't really ask for an apology (not from what i've seen). They are more so looking for an explanation as to the why. People just decided to "apologize" to try to appease the audience.
i dont think its forced, its just the smart move to make..you better get some sense and apologize to the women of your community..white folk durn sho aint coming to save you. no other community is coming to save you. at the end of the day, they belong to the black community..make it ritght as best you can. simple as that.
@@thecatthatcan8976 I hear you. I saw calls for an apology and people saying versions of, "let's wait to see what they say before we decide" type of thing. I'm suggesting that BW need to believe what they see when it is that flagrant, and not wait to be placated. Our energy is coveted currency, hence the rage baiting that people usually engage in hoping we will bite.
I don't know, I guess it's all valid as there's no blueprint for dealing with the disrespect.
I don't support them, 😊but I agree. I feel the "apology" was a whole bunch of NOTHING. On this podcast alone, they've cited 2 separate incidents when these people didn't support bw. They apologized for 1 incident by blaming someone else when THEY SUPPLIED THE ANSWERS. The man didn't force them to say something against black women. He asked a question, and they VOLUNTEERED the answer then blamed it on being "uncomfortable"
Apologies in words will rarely meet people’s expectations. It’s changed behavior that shows how sorry you are.
Racism in England is not quiet. I wish that narrative wasn’t so widely perpetuated.
I was just thinking aren't there entire race riots hitting the UK this year..?! It's very loud anti-immigrant racism for sure
Where do ppl get that mess? They are IN YO FACE with it. The accent makes it worse than a Southern bigot
After all those anti-immigration riots they've been having...definitely NOT quiet.
Thank you for saying something, over here we are lead to believe the racism is not as open and widely broadcasts as it is in America. We are often taught that people of color across the pond have microagressive acts of racism here and there, verses what we openly see like targeted police shootings and politicians outright making racist statements.
Yeah I didn’t get that impression when I spoke to black people who live in the UK.
The apology could have been distilled down to "Please forgive us for being cowards. We will do our best not to let it happen again."
And it still would be insufficient
exactly thats why you never apologize
As a SNG subscriber this isn’t the first instance of anti-blackness that I perceived. First it was their response to the Little Mermaid live action, then the Atlanta to Spain (shitty) flight and now this. I’m with Angel you can tell who they like and in 2024, believe people the first time, so I unsubscribed from them.
I didn't see those episodes but I did see the one with the AI generated women FULL of snow bunnies. One brown AI person, they called everyone baddies except the brown one. Dude! These women are fake!
Yessss that rubbed me the wrong way too omg! There were so many instances that I've brushed off, that I'm seeing in this comment section. I'm ashamed I didn't unsubscribe and block sooner.
I’m disappointed. It’s my fault for never watching a full episode. I used to watch one of their segments that I saw on shorts and then would skip the whole rest of the episode so I didn’t even catch it. Super frustrating to see. I haven’t watched in awhile but I’ve unsubscribed now
@@trishacollymore4397 and that's recent! Clock it fr. They also tend to describe obviously yt women in their little scenarios.
You know why people always say Kev and Tony be pandering to black women? It’s because so many other platforms purposely choose to disrespect and demean them.
Angel thanks for standing up for our black women 😅
I've never seen Angela snap off like this. She was hilarious 😂😂😂😂
JAMES and FUHAD never once said BLACK WOMEN…they kept saying OUR COMMUNITY. If you’re sorry TO ME…say my NAME.
Josh screaming ASEMBOL is everything I needed to start this morning. LOL
It definitely set the tone 🦾
Saaameee
I screamed 😂
Lol they’re so silly
I need it every week cause baby that riff was clean!
And to be clear, Shane Gillis only pushed back on the Downs jokes because his brother, I think, has Downs Syndrome. He's OK with racist, sexist, LGBTQ jokes, though. As long as it's not something that directly affects them or someone they love, they don't care. As for James and Fujad, their mistake was going on the Andrew Schulz podcast in the first place. Andrew gets worse every year on the racism tip.
His uncle, I think, has Downs syndrome.
His uncle has Downs
I loved that he did push back, but there is that element of would he have done so if he wasn't so directly affected by it.
Side note - his episode on SNL is one of the funniest I've seen in recent years! That Jamaica sketch?! 😂😂😂😂😂😂
Right! He been trippin.
See 👀
I agree 100% with Angel. I also thank Kev for honestly stating how Atlanta is filled with beautiful black women!!!!
To y'all. To a lot of us, it's more bad than good
1,000 bottles of lubricant is WILD. I saw someone say their local Walgreens doesn’t even have that much lol.
Orange County doesn't have 1000 bottles 😂😂😂😂
It's because Diddy bought it all 😂😂😂
What (non-s*x store) has that many bottles? Not even a Walmart!
Why would they, lol???
😂😂😂😂😂😂
British black men tend to prefer snowbunnies tbh. Listening to the SnG's podcast, I just knew. However, there is a limit. What they let slide on Flagrant is something different. You are allowed to have your preferences, but don't go around disparage black women or don't disrespect black women (also don't be complacent. there's a limit to what you let slide that others say).
THIS!!!
I was looking for someone to say this! Cause their preference is clear if u watch the show. But the times I’ve seen they have never been disrespectful. And now they got caught up being like u said complacent.
Don’t let these idiots define how black British men are
I just don't understand why they don't take the Jamie Foxx route and mind their preferences quietly 😕 They always have to be loud about it.
Im glad they got on the host too bc her response was I’m not from Atlanta. Ma’am he said he hasn’t seen any baddies in ATL, that means ALL WOMEN WHO ARE IN ATL not women from ATL. So if you sitting your ass in ATL for any length of time they mean you.
Thank you! I made this comment on someone else's video about it. Her comprehension skills are low, low, low, low, low, low (in my Flo-rida voice)
@@dblr4931😂😂😂 I was like huh you’re still there I’m crying at low low low low low
As a Black Woman (living in The USA); I absolutely LOVE how KevOnStage & H.T.T. RIDE FOR BLACK WOMEN. THANK YOU ANGEL. I thank GOD that my husband RIDES FOR BLACK WOMEN, THE SAME WAY. 💯❤✊🏾
That darned head wrap got Angel in supersonic mode
Facts. That’s my kind of carrying on and I love it.
Schultz is apart of the Joe Rogan pipeline of unfunny "comedians"
Joe Rogan didn't put Shultz on
Still part of the unfunny pipeline!
Ain’t nobody who ever seen ANY SnG episode would EVER think them two fellas like Black womenfolk in a sexual way 😂. They are prettyyyy clear (and bold) on their preferences being beige
Very true. I stopped watching a while ago because of things I heard them say and infer themselves .
I tried to get into them after Kev and Angel interviewed them. I just couldn't. I unsubscribed like a few weeks later.
I've only ever seen their clips. I'm glad I hadn't.
Exactly! Vibes rec'd
We really don’t care about their preferences that’s not the issue. 🤦🏾♀️
I am 34 and don’t ever remember finishing a bottle of baby oil. So 1,000?!?!? Just wow lol
It usually gets spilled before hand😂
This!! I’ve had the same bottle of baby oil in my bathroom for almost 3 years 😂 and it isn’t even halfway empty
@@YWiggy5Same 😂
Maaaannn cant NEVA use it all😂😂
🤣🤣🤣 Just replacing it because I feel like I've had it too long
"I didn't say the English accent makes you sound feminine" Angel cracks me up🤣🤣🤣
"cause that would be rude!"
Weak af..the English accent is praised globally as a staple of sounding like a man’s man..
I was weak
Read this just as she saw it lmao
2 black men sitting there and one DIDNT reel it back like “we love our black women” “well,my mum is black” nothing ?😒
They are English men not black men
There s only one black mum and it’s Fuhad but he takes his lead from James
@@thiscatrocksFuhad does tend to just match whatever James says whenever he gives opinions on things from what I’ve seen. He seems kind of passive or something
@@Rae777 yes he definitely does
@@Rae777I don't even feel like it's passivity as much as it's maintaining plausible deniability. The calculation seems to be that James can get away with more and also he's built up his persona as the more flagrant and daring one while Fuhad is the more down-to-earth, reasoned character.
Loved Angel's Cosby Show reference!
"You had BIIIIIGGGG fun in Baltimore huh?!"
😂😂😂
I caught that too 😂😂😂
Angel, how in the world do you keep your train of thought Everytime Kevin interrupts you?! You the real MVP babes!
🗣️Get’em Doug! Lol when Angel was goin off on ShxtNgigs 😂😂
😂😂 🙌🏾🙌🏾
Yo….she flamed them back to the UK fam.
I didn't even know about this drama, but I loved every minute of Angel calling everybody out! I even went to see Flagrant cover the apology, and I'm already annoyed. They are trying to laugh it off. It's very corny. We need Angel to go over there and see if they try it!
Yayy cry session. Angel's a baby😂😂
Been waiting for this. Excited to have joined your Patreon too. Had to cancel Shxts n Gigs lol
I was literally about to finally sign up for their log cabin thing because they'd started teasing episodes, then this came out lol. Lemme take my talents to south beach 😂
There’s even more things that S&G has said about black women but those episodes got “deleted”
Yes! I was confused about why people were surprised because they have been quite clear on how they feel about black women in their earlier podcasts
If you're talking about their first 100 episodes. Those haven't been on RUclips for awhile. Like at least from last year. But maybe even longer
Oh word??
Wow, I did not know 😮
🎯🎯🎯 I watched 1 episode after they was on here, & the vibes were OFF. They were NOT the men other ppl made them out to be... 😒😒😒
Angel: The capital of Louisiana is "L" 😂
😂😂😂
😂😅
😡 Nah whatchu mean 😂😂
I LITERALLY LAUGHED OUT LOUD - LOUD‼️
That was hilarious to read !
@@afletcher257 People in the break room looking at me crazy 😂
I’m not gonna lie. I was already heartbroken from shit and gigs. Also going through a break up and I’m just excited to see you guys post and I’m like I saw the title and I’m like did they not talk about the SNG situation because I’m like they had them on there. We was all rooting for them just for them to spit in our face is crazy Because of the podcasts that invited them on when they were barely breaking through were black like dude yall can’t be for real, but not surprised by it at all… That apology was very I’m sorry we fucked up our bag
Angel in the head wrap don’t play 😂😂😂😂
she is gathering all three of those guys!
I can't wait to see the Law and Order SVU Episode on this one lol 😆😅 Olivia Benson is going to HAVE A TIME with Diddy 😂😅
I gotta start watching again 😂
I feel bad when I think this about real life events. In saying that I need a half season of SVU dedicated to this with a mashup with Organized Crime during the arrest episodes.
They already did one on him and the shooting 😂
The Diddy is gonna be the whole entire season!!
@@meghanbetter4713organized crime tho 😂😂😂
And y’all haven’t even heard there OLD podcast clip of James and Fuhad DOGGING OUT black women when they first started.
oh no.
I was literally just talking about this. They have NEVER been on Black women’s side. And that’s who built they lil raggedy brand
Whaaaaattt seriously! That's a damn shame, I JUST heard of and started following them THATS OVER. DAAAAAAAAYUM 🤦🏿♀️🤦🏿♀️
I don't watch them boys but that apology was sandwiched right before their podcast and they apologized to their "community" not black women.
they'll be fine monetarily but they definitely treated black women as an afterthought.
After seeing more of the podcast, they also allowed them to talk trash about their own Nigerian and Trini/Irish cultures, so I'm thinking that's why they addressed the "community".
Thats cause they had more to apologize for lmao The let the Irish Disrespect slide too much too. If I was Irish I woulda been highly offended at what Andrew said. He dragged that shit too far. Like how you let this man drag your whole life and disrespect every community you’re apart of. Lmao They need to cancel themselves 😂
@@sugarwaterpurple5280dang the Irish people caught it too?
44:09 “because that would be reeeewt” LMAOOO come ON ANGEL!!!!!
19:48 Josh saying “ what? I thought we all were doing it!” Is sending me 😂😂😂
I had no problem with SnG's Atlanta statements. Diff culture, diff preferences. The cowardice shown during the Flagrant podcast is what bothered me. They didnt defend against the racist statements about BW or themselves. It was sad to watch.
I also didn't take issue with it. I did take issue with the woman's reply because she clearly didn't get he was still talking about her. It was to put herself above the women he deemed unbaddies which made her look silly.
They didn't defend because it's how they always felt. They like mixed and white girls. They are still wounded women when they were girls made fun of them🙄.
KEV!! I’m impressed. The 757 can’t wait to have you!! Hampton, Newport News, Norfolk, Portsmouth, Suffolk, Chesapeake and VA Beach
I saw him in the 757 the first time. Got my Day One t shirt. Now I’m hoping to see him in H town next
That’s why Andrew Shultz and Charlemagne get along so well they just like to push buttons
Charlemagne's association with Andrew needs to be his downfall.
@@thatgirlkells5505no, let’s check CTG so he readjusts. As black peoples, let’s save each other before wishing our downfall ✊🏽❤️
“What’s the name of the podcast? Bastardly?” Angel, I love you! 😂😂😂
Never heard of Shyts and Giggles btw till now…
No the people expect that kind of talk from Andrew, a white person, not with a black person. We expect when your in the company of another race who is speaking about us in that manner to defend, not laugh and go along. THAT'S THE POINT.
Yall didn’t cover the S&Gs story correctly. They had an old podcast when they overtly said that black men don’t like black women and white women are the standard. The Flagrant podcast just exposed what they have already said most of the time.
Do you know what video it was, or rather how long ago this video was? I know they have like 300 videos or something so I’m not asking you to find it if you don’t remember.
I never knew that. Yikes!
@@IntermissionPrairieWolfit’s going around TikTok
@@IntermissionPrairieWolf They deleted about 100+ of their early episodes. So, it might be gone.
@@silents04explains why this is news to most.
Head scarf and earrings gathered those two knucks... Thanks, Angel.
James and Fuhad have outright said in the past things that make it clear that they don't really care about the feelings of black women they don't know personally, and they hardly actually care about their audience of black women.
I know that they were uncomfortable, but they weren't uncomfortable enough.
Andrew Schulz even came out and said they had the ability to say what they wanted taken out of the episode and the part about black women wasn't one of those things.
I cosign Angel's reaction to ShxtsnGigs. I don't know them (Mariah Carey voice). It's clear my $ shouldn't go to them.
This!! I hope we as black women just leave the shxts n gigs content in the dust where it belongs.
Don't comment.
Unfollow.
Unsubcribe.
And if it still shows up in your social media, block, or click "don't recommend channel" .
Let their preferences support them from now on.
Part of why I ❤ this podcast is that you guys have such a measured approach to fleshing out complicated topics. You made me look at the ShxtnGigs situation differently than I did before, but with care.... with teaching-ness, with fairness, and always with love. 🙌🏾
Agreed! On Angels rant at the giggles crew 👏 👏 👏 👏 👏
The women on the podcast….Lex and Drea the thing I observed was they didn’t think they were included in the “no baddies” in Atlanta. They were in Atlanta right? They didn’t say there aren’t in NATIVE Atlanta baddies. The whole I’m not offended was giving “I’m not like other girls,” real bad. They weren’t like oh she’s a baddie are you a native baddie oh, you’re from Houston or Boston.
As Houston transplants, they already hold a separatist attitude.
Very much a “them” versus “us” mentality and this is coming from a neutral party from South Florida.
@@UpAndAtEmAddie yep, that was evident to me as well. I'm from neither. I just thought it was interesting that they didn't realize they were definitely in Atlanta and thus from the guys perspective, it wouldn't matter.
As a black British woman....carribean too, the black men over here have been whipped by white women for yeeaarrrssss. The carribeans have been in England since the 50s so the integration of white culture is pretty strong and for my carribean men, I remember seeing them talk bad about black girls and date white women allllll the time, especially if he was brought up in a city that is not as diverse you will naturally prefer the white woman.
I watch these guys podcast simply for the mental break and lighthearted nature. I ABSOLUTELY NEVER EXPECTED them to be advocates for the black community in England let alone the states!!!!
Angel there is absolutely that vibe that they don't date black women. Your from the states so you won't be able to necessarily hear the cadence of whiteness in their voice but from what I'm aware of they aren't from black black black parts of England, fuhad was like just outside of London in Dagenham and then went to Nigeria for schooling for a while then cam back and went to Manchester (main city but still very white) I meeann yikes and James Northampton oooffff, so the proximity to black culture is going to be far.
I think if you was to ask black British women who support them did you expect anything different, most of us would say tbh naaaaa cuz black men over aren't so forthcoming with their blackness and pander to whites a lot and I don't know why... Well I do but you know!!
I think because America is bigger thus having more support from the black women you guys wills be louder about your disappointment naturally because there is more of you but I think the lack of cultural understanding with the black British culture and the nuiances of who they are, you've completely missed and put a lot of responsibility on them when it should have been zero in the first place.
Black people who live in major cities like London, Birmingham, Manchester, Liverpool and have access to people like them on a regular basis will see who these types of guys are from the jump. Oh yhhh they speak slang but they're not mandem at all theres a roughness and grit that we have being a black brit living in poverty, that you can identify very quickly.
Thats my piece on the matter, I think they'll be fine and I think they'll realise like oh shit I actually didn't realise black women rode for us that hard.
As a fellow Black british woman, you nailed it. I used to watch them for the laughs but expect nothing deep from them. The clue is in their brand name, people.
Are you saying they give the vibe that they date black women? Not sure what you meant in that statement….or if it was a typo.
@@smarti1144I figured it was a typo as well. Hopefully.
This is it. I'm not a Black British woman, but as a Black woman with Black European male relatives I definitely get the nuisance that many missed. They are truly just meant for light hearted banter. I'm so sorry yall expected more from them 😅
@@smarti1144 ooooo yes definitely a typo 😅 they do date white women most definitely. My hands were just going!!! Too much to say sis
Angel! Girl! You have made me a fan! Thank you for tearing a new one for ShytxNGiggles! Kudos and applause!
Come on Kev, you know what a baddie is. Your married to one. Liss don't play she has style for sure.💃🏾
His wife’s nickname is not Mel,it’s Liss. Mel is her sister.
@@CharliEdwards thank you for the correction.
@@Qu3en0fthe5outh_1 🫶🏾
😂😂😂 I heard "Gimme A Rita!!!" Yes I Did, YES I DID!!!
Me too! I got so excited. 😆 How to Die Alone is excellent btw!!
@@ShaeLairdwhere can I watch it?
"I am the baby oil man" 😂😂😂 shoutout to Josh
This just took me OUT 😂😂😂😂
Yes Angel!!! And Kevin, I agree! I think it’s about having integrity. King of Reads and Shayna Conde have great responses on the ShxtsNGigs response as well. Black women don’t care abt desirability, we value respect. To allow someone to denigrate not only your audience but your own community is cowardly and a slap in the face. It’s abt standing for something. They pretty much othered themselves and proved themselves to be those that are panderers and not true supporters of all in the black community. To say you were caught off guard? As Shayna Conde stated in a video response that’s where your integrity comes into play.
The thing about S&G that people are starting to realize is that on their own podcast the have made some anti-Black women statements while in the same breath expressing their preference for white women. Again, not sure why Black women would support this. Let white women build their brand.
“It makes you sound feminine” 😂 I’m dying
Come THROOOOOOOUGH ANGEL!!! They betta recognize that black women are the essence of life 🧬🙋🏽♀️🥰💯
"The capital of Louisiana is 'L'" 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 ANGEL!
The intro was extra phenomenal today! 🎬👼🏾📸
42:54 screaminggggggg!!! ANGEL I love youuuu! And I will continue to support any/everything you do!!!
"double slaved?"
"Potato slave?"
WTF is happening?!?
¡AQUÍ ESTA LA COSA!
HER'S THE THING
Patreon is undefeated
I think that James and Fuhad were clearly uncomfortable when Andrew made other offensive comments like about Nigerians for instance but when the black women "jokes" were said they decided to laugh along.
Because the black women racist comments didn't apply to them. They weren't offended.
What I wanna know is what Fuhads momma and older sister said, what James daddy and sister said, what Joyce said, and Nella Rose said....
I drove from Baton Rouge to Houston for the HTT tour … so happy!!!
Me too!😂
Angel snapped and i'm here for it. When they were on this podcast, both of them looked so uncomfortable around Angel. Kev too innocent and forgiving
Man I’m pretty sure Jlo and fonzworth got some stories
Angel is right. Don't matter what you prefer. Get on that podcast and say black women are the preference. Don't matter if you got a white woman at home. BLACK WOMMMEEENN!!!!
Well then it'll be a lie.
Again angel said LIE then!
@@jamescoleman1574it’s a smarter business decision but still a lie. They saw who bought tickets to their live shows. They let that man mess up their bag.
Between James Earl Jones and this Flagrant bs. Black women can’t catch a break. Love your preference in silence! 🤫
A whole lot of us loudly yell how we love our black women, but we get ignored.
Oh lord what happened with James Earl Jones?
@@cdubb8827Some video of him and his (then) white wife from the 1970s resurfaced. He was talking about black women being too militant, angry and unfeminine.
@cdubb8827 girl this is old tea but he been not liking balck women 😒
Go off Angel!!! Everything you said is on point
Angel looks absolutely amazing and I agree with everything she says!!! Black women all day!!!
What an affirmation "BLACK WOMEN ARE THE PREFERENCE "❤❤❤❤ ive never heard it said with someones chest before. I love it very much
I LOVE ANGEL!!!! Sis needs her own primetime show IMMEDIATELY
Angel went in and I love it. My issue on the “apology” minus all the basic surface level PR crap is how you say “there is no excuse” and then immediately start with the excuses?!? They lost me instantly there.
Yes I heard her song at the beginning of the episode. I was smiling ear to ear so proud 🤗😂
How to Die Alone is really good btw
OMGGGGGGGG YEEEESSS I just started it and it’s everything I thought it would be and more. Couldn’t be more proud 🥰
Boi, Kev tip toeing around ShxtsnGigs. 😅 But Angel want all the SMOKE! 😂 Luv it! Tfs
He definitely was 😂
Angel’s jokes went over their head and they seemed uncomfortable with her “full blackness” (whatever that means). That’s when I knew what category to put them in my head.🙃
I never knew them before that interview.
Dropped just in time for me to ignore my work.
😅😅
😂😂😂 100%
Norfolk, Suffolk, Portsmouth, Chesapeake, Hampton, Newport News, Va Beach; big up the 757!
Watching this whole cast try to pronounce what ATLiens are nicknamed was outlandishly funny
Josh talmbout “cant say we’ll be missing you” 😂😂😂
I remember on Making the Band Diddy had Danity Kane step out one by one and do a full spin to see if they had gained weight. 🤮 he looked at D. Woods and said, " You a burger away." 🫠 to have the audacity, authority, ability whatever word you want to use to parade people in front of you like cattle 😫 Diddy was never a walking red flag, he's the big sign you see on the side of the highway telling you there's a accident ahead and you need to change lanes. 🥴
That's the whole music industry
Jlo saw him shoot a woman in the face and was forced to hide the gun. She was terrified and got up outta there.
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂..... Shine is like 20 years in the making these cuffs waiting on you, Puff.
@@tigerlilly9038I wanna hear from Shine!!!
That's what I was explaining to my husband. This dude has been getting away with sh*t for so long.
The “apology” was trash. That was an explanation, a poor one at that. James couldn’t even look into the camera and Fuhad was just an echo. It was all about them and not the people who were affected by their complicity. They need some PR training. It also should have been a non monetized video, not attached to a monetized episode. I really liked them, but I love myself more. I unsubscribed