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Final Fantasy 7 Rebirth - Final Boss and Ending
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- Опубликовано: 17 авг 2024
- Final Boss and Ending in Final Fantasy 7 Rebirth
00:00 Demon Gate Boss Fight
06:57 Cloud finds the Black Materia
15:15 Sephiroth gets the Black Materia
23:31 The Turks escape the Temple of the Ancients
24:52 Zack goes to Shinra HQ ( Timeline 2 )
26:34 Cloud and Aerith are awake ( Timeline 2 or 3? )
35:02 Zack goes to Sector 6 Reactor ( Timeline 3 )
38:37 more Cloud and Aerith
39:53 Zack finds Sephiroth ( Timeline ? )
41:37 Cloud and Aerith in the church ( Timeline 2 or 3? )
44:04 Sephiroth talks about timelines
48:57 Cloud in a forest
54:44 Cloud wakes up
59:32 The Forgotten Capital
01:04:53 Entering the Planet's Sanctuary
01:08:10 Aerith's fate?
01:14:30 Jenova Lifeclinger Boss Fight
01:25:18 Zack & Cloud vs Sephiroth
01:30:03 Cloud vs Sephiroth Reborn
01:34:40 Everyone except Cloud vs Sephiroth Reborn
01:38:47 Zack vs Sephiroth Reborn
01:41:53 Everyone except Cloud vs Sephiroth Reborn part 2
01:46:51 Cloud & Aerith vs Sephiroth
01:55:15 Zack's goodbye
01:56:04 Aerith's fate?
02:00:42 Rufus and Glenn
02:03:58 Zack's dreaming? ( Timeline ? )
02:04:50 Whispers in Nibelheim
02:05:24 Flying away
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Added timestamps for the big events!
I'm not sure in what timeline some events happen, so feel free to correct me ( with your thoughts on why ) so I could correct it!
00:00 Demon Gate Boss Fight
06:57 Cloud finds the Black Materia
15:15 Sephiroth gets the Black Materia
23:31 The Turks escape the Temple of the Ancients
24:52 Zack goes to Shinra HQ ( Timeline 2 )
26:34 Cloud and Aerith are awake ( Timeline 2 or 3? )
35:02 Zack goes to Sector 6 Reactor ( Timeline 3 )
38:37 more Cloud and Aerith
39:53 Zack finds Sephiroth ( Timeline ? )
41:37 Cloud and Aerith in the church ( Timeline 2 or 3? )
44:04 Sephiroth talks about timelines
48:57 Cloud in a forest
54:44 Cloud wakes up
59:32 The Forgotten Capital
01:04:53 Entering the Planet's Sanctuary
01:08:10 Aerith's fate?
01:14:30 Jenova Lifeclinger Boss Fight
01:25:18 Zack & Cloud vs Sephiroth
01:30:03 Cloud vs Sephiroth Reborn
01:34:40 Everyone except Cloud vs Sephiroth Reborn
01:38:47 Zack vs Sephiroth Reborn
01:41:53 Everyone except Cloud vs Sephiroth Reborn part 2
01:46:51 Cloud & Aerith vs Sephiroth
01:55:15 Zack's goodbye
01:56:04 Aerith's fate?
02:00:42 Rufus and Glenn
02:03:58 Zack's dreaming? ( Timeline ? )
02:04:50 Whispers in Nibelheim
02:05:24 Flying away
ok so thinking about it now, could "26:34 Cloud and Aerith are awake ( Timeline 2 or 3? )" be Timeline 3?
considering a white light comes out of the tunnel that goes to the Sector 6 Reactor, and that's a scene from Timeline 3 ( 35:02 )
@@FazFaz They really made Aerith into Schrödinger's cat didn't they and all because they wanted a multiverse
@@FazFaz WOAH Was That Lucrecia Speaking Through Aerith?????????
@@haileeraestout5567 Where? O.o
The cliffhanger ending lolz
The game be like: "Congratulations Cloud! Your ptsd evolved into schizophrenia!"
Mans turning into ichiban at this rate
Deadass. Made cloud a fucking idiot tbh.
Seriously
Truer words were never spoken!
Like a dragon x final fantasy vii crossover when?😂
Zack: (existing in the same space as Cloud)
Sephiroth: Oh no there's two of them.
Lmao Zack was the one who mess up sephiroth mind first place in criss core lol He probably like Areith but Arieth is like ewe you ugly sephiroth lmao so the guy became hate you can see why he follows her everywhere to kill her off 😂
@angelicnobody6847 No, it was actually Genesis, who put Sephiroth into the path of becoming a villain through gaslighting.
hard disagree here Zack connected with seph on some level. He knew who aerith was via the turks.
Genesis even in CC wasnt shown to be a tragic catalyst for this snowball of BS.
The real villain isn't even Jenova, although she just took advantage of the arrogance of the idiot.
Its not even Shinra, as screwed up as they are, the planet clearly has means to self CORRECT their crap, given enough time.(although they are a villain here, just not the biggest one)
Hojo. The abomination of a "man" is the root of all of this disaster, for no other reason than I want to be a God. If I can't be a God then my progeny will be a God thus by transitive properties ***I*** will be a God for no other reason than my sick unethical ass demands to enshrined into perpetual Godhood, and my screwed up 'science' must be seen as epic.
Hojo os the true villain and like any true villain tries to pass the blame off onto his own screwed up "weapons" or plans or employeers
@@jcbq01hey Hojo is just curious and wants to see the stars upclose 😂
he's just a little forgetful and fails to remember (or care really) that everyone else has to pay the price for it
now jokes aside you got the start right but Jenova ... she's been confirmed to be under Sephiroth's control for years now
unless this changes she should still be under Sephiroth's control so she's not taking advantage of him
it's more like those with her genes have an instinctual hunger for the Lifestream and a desire to travel the cosmos (acording to Sephiroth in AC)
coincidentally that was also Hojo's plan in Dirge after becoming one with Omega through Weiss
so Sephy is actually taking after both parents (and i suppose he got Lucretia's hair length plus 1 meter and a half lol)
Tifa's fighting grunts here at 1:21:59 are so sad. She sounds devastated and furious while she fights. Those punches are fueled by the loss of her best friend. Love Britt Baron's performance in this game so much.
Tifa at this point doesn't care if she breaks both wrists and shatters her legs in the fight, she won't stop until either Sephiroth or she is dead! Losing the bar and Jessie and Avalanche back in Sector 7, having to relive the death of her Mother and Father in this game, and now losing her best girl friend Aerith? At this point Tifa is done with the "Don't do it Cloud!" mentality.
Yeah she definitely sounds angry you tell and it is sad to hear 😞
Get a fantastic job Britt Baron did fantastic job bringing tifa to the life she truly did what a fantastic voice she did a nice job thank you
My waifu said “fuck you and all your tentacles you freaky hoe parasite!” Like broooo and we fighting this bitch at least 3-6 times in part 3. They need to introduce a new villain and NOOOO not a completely new out of left field antagonist but they said they are going the Advent Children route
I mean the three dudes Kadaj, Loz, Yazoo. It makes perfect sense to bring them in, they could easily be introduced in the Northern Crater section and battling all three at first may be a bit much so maybe Kadaj will approach you
Out of pursuit for Sephiroth as well as well as even Vincent maybe harping
About some new science in the works by Hojo who you
Will fight in part 3….they better make that horrifying with Vincent as a perm member in the battle. In fact if you have him with you in OG there are some
Pretty hefty significant lines between the two!
Anyway constantly interweaving these three manifestations of Sephiroth is quite LITERALLY Advent Children but ultimately this is where the over arching plot is heading for better or worse….lets wait and see if they handle
It in a way that well makes
I really like Zack’s spirit. The worlds reuniting and him and Aerith being alive is exactly what him and I do want.
Final Fantasy VII: Multiverse of Madness is looking neat.
Next, the Council of Sephiroths
@@thegoodwin I unironically think this has already happened. Each timeline has its own Sephiroth and the one that can use "Octaslash Prime" is probably the one from the OG timeline.
@@thegoodwin bet they'll aruge like:
Sephiroth 1: "Cloud is my little puppet."
Sephiroth 2: "No! He belongs to me!"
Sephiroth 3: "Hmmph. We all know he belongs to the strongest Sephiroth."
technically FF series on its own, is a multiverse of each other
Love this comment
Cait Sith’s “This is bad. This is very bad.” was spoken with such emotion. I don’t know why but that spoke out to the most during the ending. Even the most optimistic party member saw the doom of the situation.
This. Also when Tifa asks Cait Sith if he's good and he responds, "Better than this thing's gonna be in a few minutes!". Cait Sith's VA should be really proud of the work they did on this game -- phenomenal deliveries.
Alrite there are two ways to interpret that last cutscene. Either Sephiroth is messing with Cloud again with Aerith's image. Or Aerith's spirit is talking to Cloud via the empty White Materia. Materia are said to contain the memories of the ancient Cetra, so i can see Aerith somehow imprinting a part of herself into the white Materia
bro you dont got the ending, cloud thinks that he saved aerith and he is talking to her thinking that everybody can see her too but they cant, she is dead
@@MarcosRian-di8np Or very likely Cloud somehow was pulled into the timeline where she died while he also in the one where she didn't because having a multiverse was a mistake
@@MarcosRian-di8npnanaki feel her presence when she touch him
But I THINK Aerith Might Return But In A Way So She Can Only Do Because What If He Doesnt Kill Her And Instead She Is Injured We Dont See Cloud Sink Aerith BUT Cloud Gives Aerith To Tseng Who Takes Her Somewhere Secret Location So She Can Rest And Heal
@@MarcosRian-di8npno YOU don't get the ending, why would aerith went thru allat just to be really dead and cloud is hallucinating?? Witb multiple timeline confirmed the idea of cloud hallucinating is stupid i don't get why people buy it tbh
"I'm already half Xehanort" has nothing on this.
"I'm going to reunite all timelines! I'm also going to fuck with this timeline and re-kill Aerith, fuck you"
"that's....nuts!"
Areith covering up for cloud given sephiroth the black materia by lying saying sephiroth beat up cloud and thats how he got the materia instead was heart-felt
i loved it when Aerith says to Cloud to take care of himself.. its like the devs looked back on the other games and said, "what can we do to improve Cloud's mental health?" 😭 especially after advent children, I'm glad heard that in this timeline
Zack is so proud of Cloud.
This is a reworked post with multiple steps to understand the ending that I did previously in a “Cloud and Aerith date in the alternate timeline“ video by Faz Faz (my respects for your efforts). I had to correct some steps and add the detail. All below is my interpretation of what is shown, or attempt to make educated guess. Agree or disagree as you see fit.
aka Final Fantasy VII and the Masters of the Many-worlds interpretation of the quantum theory. 🤪
1. Yes, it is a sequel to the OG, just not a chronological one. Not an expanded retelling. Sephiroth is definitely playing against the plot of the OG by introducing more or less subtle changes into the history, not rewriting it outright. Shinra - Wutai coalition war is a next big thing. I suspect that Sephiroth wants to sabotage Shinra’s ability to bring down the barrier around Northern Crater. Coalition does not need to win, it must cripple Midgar's power generation capabilities to make Shinra unable to fire the Junon Canon, or to make the shot not powerful enough.
2. At the beginning of the Rebirth we are aware about three realities/timelines: OG, Rebirth/Remake (will be labeled as R), Zack's (will be labeled as Z1). Z1 is a result of branching from the R at the end of the remake. Realities can be differentiated by the Stamps (Shinra mascots), amongst other things. Hound for R, terrier for Z1. Zack sees the rift in the sky in Z1. Aerith "does not like the sky" in R, because she also sees the rift (new ending for Remake).
3. These worlds are connected through the Lifestream, Z1 is dying, but it's not an afterlife. "A world that have accepted its fate", per Sephiroth's words.
4. Marlene words are important, but you must always keep in mind, that she's a kid, who speaks her impression of what she saw, not what actually must be done.
5. Zack is told by Marlene, that if Aerith wakes up in Z1, she dies, how Cloud almost saves her, but "does not make it in time". To avert that "he gotta make Cloud better".
6. Later, we see Zack on the bike at the tunnel crossroad. He must choose a path - he takes the left tunnel to save Biggs at the Reactor 6, or he takes the right tunnel, and goes after Hojo, to get possible cure for Cloud. He remembers his talk with Marlene about Cloud and Aerith. He takes the right path, and goes after Hojo. As he disappears, we see bright light stream from the left tunnel.
7. After fighting Shinra troops at the Shinra HQ he goes to help Biggs at the Reactor 6. He sees Biggs eating chips, the chips pack has Stamp's image, but it's a pug now. With his previous choice Zack branched new, Z2 reality, in which he is now. Shinra troops arrive, and his situation at the end of the Crisis Core repeats. Zack jokes about fate having a cruel sense of humor, and how he will make his own rules. He escapes the fight.
8. Later, Aerith (I believe OG Aerith is involved) wakes up herself and Cloud, they have what looks like farewell date. She pretty much says goodbye to the world of living, savoring every moment with Cloud. At one of the store shelves we see figurine of Stamp, who now looks like Spitz. This is different reality from Z1 and Z2. Let’s label it A1. She sees black feather, and hears Sephiroth's voice "So this is where you've been hiding. In a world that has accepted its fate. Just as you must". She is visibly upset.
9. Later, we see Zack at the church entrance. We see Jonny passing by, he has Shiba-Inu Stamp toy with him. With his “screw destiny” act previously Zack branched Z3 reality! Sephiroth arrives, says that he wants piece of "no, not him", kicks Zack of his feet, and enters the church. We see Aerith giving Cloud white materia and pushing him into a "portal". Likely, she gets killed. This happens in Z3 reality, and we honestly have no clue about Z1, Z2 and A1.
We can skip to the ending part now. Some portion of it needs great attention.
10. 1:04:52 party arrives at the Ancient Capital. Sephiroth’s Whispers block the entrance to the altar, Red and Barret try to break through, but are unable to. Barret directly states how similar it is to the situation they were near the end of the Remake.
11. 1:05:43 Cloud looks at the barrier, calls Aerith, and suddenly three of the Sephiroth’s whispers attack the other Sephiroth’s whispers. Something in this scene, Cloud’s eyes and attitude, maybe, tell me that perhaps he was able to exert some measure of control over them (he’s a Sephiroth’s clone, after all). What we see, is nothing other, then what we have seen in the Remake. “Destiny’s Crossroads”.
(Now my biggest mistake is that I have failed to recognize the obvious entrance to Destiny Crossroads previously. Got a hint from one of the reviews, sadly, forgot which one. Will add info later cause credit where it’s due. They also noticed one of the stamps I have missed (A1).
12. Now remember Aerith’s line from Remake: “If we do… We’ll be changing more than fate itself. If we succeed… if we win… We’ll be changing ourselves”. In the Remake Aerith stabilized the entrance, and the entire party was able to enter. This time Aerith is not with them, and they have to stay to keep the entrance open Cloud enters the singularity without his teammates, only a few White Whispers follow him. What will happen inside will affect only him.
13.1:08:40 Cloud approaches Aerith. Whispers fight each other. Sephy’s ones try to force Cloud to attack Aerith, but he resists them. Sephiroth appears and tries to kill Aerith. Cloud notices him, bright colorful light appears around his sword, and Cloud blocks his strike. The moment he tosses him aside (1:10:33), we again see the wave of the bright light. If someone haven’t guessed it yet, this light signifies the defiance of intended destiny, and the barrier between the realities.
13.1:10:37. Whispers coalesce around Sephy’s sword, and the rest of the party sees the Whisper barrier dissipating. They enter the altar area. But let’s remember - they were not at the Destiny Crossroads.
14. 1:11:00 We see the image flashing. We see two outcomes. In one, room is engulfed with bright light, and has Sephy’s sword in the ground standing vertically (deflected - outcome 1, O1). The second one has sword at the angle (not deflected, O2), and the blood on the ground. Aerith collapses, Cloud sees that and catches her. We see no blood on her. The entire sequence of her collapsing is shown in O1.
Sephiroth takes his sword back, the angle at which it happens, hints that he perceives the O2, instead of O1, but I’m not sure about that.
15. 1:12:03. Sephiroth starts laughing. We see Cloud looking at him from O1, confused more than anything else. We see glimpses of Cloud’s reaction in the O1 (the OG/Rebirth). What I personally think happens here, is that like he again experiences his visions of her death, only this time in more detail, because O1 and O2 overlap. Aerith tells him “Its okay”.
(Previous two steps are somewhat hard to explain with words, but look at the color-coding, and you will understand, what happens where).
16. 1:13:00. The rest of the party arrives. They were not at the Destiny Crossroads, and the destiny is not changed for them. They obviously perceive the O2. From here, watch carefully, how Aerith’s body is positioned. At 1:13:07 she looks like she was on her side (look at the legs), but (was?) turned around. Sephy does the villain explanation.
17. 1:14:10. Cloud lays down Aerith on her back. Notice that, and notice the position of her hands. White Whispers circle around them. Light barrier separates Cloud, Aerith and the Whispers from the rest of the party. Sephiroth also seems to be outside the barrier.
18. Series of fights ensue. As they progress, Cloud meets Zack, they fight together, Sephiroth splits words again, Zack screams: "Cloud! Save her"! and gets back… somewhere. Probably Z3. Z(?) gets destroyed by the Meteor after his fight with Sephiroth Reborn. Zack is saved by Aerith. He literally breaks the 4th wall by looking at the camera and saying "Time to say goodbye. For now. Seeya". Seeya Zack.
19. Cloud fights Sephiroth in his One-Winged Angel form together with Aerith. She thanks Cloud for "what he did there". This is likely a hint, that this is a OG (future self) Aerith.
20. 1:56:10. White Whispers circling around Aerith. Notice the positioning of the body. Party approaches. Notice the positioning of the body. Cloud approaches. Notice the positioning of the body and hands. Could be a coincidence, but she looks like somebody lying in bed. Cloud asks her to wake up. She does. For the duration of the scene Cloud and Aerith are separated from the rest of the party by the bright light barrier and the Whispers.
21. Mourning scene after the burial. Cloud sees Aerith. Previously I was unsure about the fate of Aerith from R and thought that the “whisper retcon” happened, but I no longer think that’s the case.
22. Glenn/Rufus scene. We learn that it was Sephiroth all along behind the Wutai retaining some of its military strength and sovereignty (it was conquered and turned into a resort to humiliate them in the OG). That’s a major deviation from the plot.
23. Zack scene. "Who's to say they can't unite again"?
24. Tiny Bronco scene. Cloud is able to interact with Aerith. He sees the rift in the sky, similar to the one Zack saw, and he saw when he was on a “dream date” with Aerith. The rest of the party does not see the rift.
All that being said, what I think happened
1. Sephiroth was possibly tricked into believing that he was able to find and kill Aerith (her OG version?), who was hiding from him in a parallel reality. Info about her hiding in a parallel realities is presented from her perspective, not Cloud’s, and cannot be attributed to his mental issues (but people will still do that anyway 😛).
2. Zack making Cloud better was never about Zack actually MAKING Cloud better, but about making a correct CHOICE at the correct time.
3. “Aerith… Wake up” scene hints at her actually waking up from coma somewhere.
4. Cloud is not delusional, he indeed perceives two realities. He indeed saved Aerith in R, but since he alone was at the Destiny Crossroads this time, this happened only for him. His party seeing things differently will likely lead to conflict and maybe self-doubt at some point.
5. The fate of each and every character will be finalized only in part 3. It can be good, it can be bad, it can be same, but it didn't happen yet.
6. Once again. Yes. A sequel. One dealing with the dimensional and temporal warfare. 🤪Love it or hate it, accept it or deny it, it is. In the Remake it was about breaking the shackles of fate. In Rebirth it was about setting the stage. History is not rewritten, but changed. The resolution will be in part 3. It can be grand rewrite, it may be small rewrite, it may be "the new journey to old outcome", but we are dealing with a sequel.
7. After the final battle Aerith probably sends him back to the R reality ("Everybody's waiting). But he has the ability to perceive the reality where he was able to save Aerith, and talk with her.
As someone who just stumbled upon this video, and barely has any FF experience, I’m just stunned and laughing so much rn.
I think I’m more confused, thx for comment my dude, it made my day.
Thanks for giving me rational arguments that she isn't dead
this is actually a legit good post, my guy. Good job spotting these and formulating them this well here!
We're getting into quantum physics and the uncertainty principle!?
Excellent work. I disagree about when Z2 branches from Z1 but everything else has given me a lot of food for thought.
Looking at Zack’s skills I love how he has his Chain Slash special from Crisis core among em
1:26:48, i've wanted to see this for a long time, my boys fighting side by side one more time.
Isn't it the first time they fought side by side 🤔
@@jbox6315 It was mostly Zack fighting, and Cloud getting his ass kicked by the overwhelming odds, despite his best efforts.
@@netfan7117pretty much. But this time it’s different. This time they are on equal grounds
@@NintendoSegaandHasbroFancloud having Zack memories of fighting style make sense I said
My prediction almost happened. Since the worlds were merging I expected for Cloud to get there like the original, but Zack appears and blocks the killing blow.
I’ve wondered, assuming this was sephiroth the gang faces off, why is he dividing and battling the gang. What’s with the multiple incarnations? What’s with meteor?
Some ideas:
1. Sephiroth calls upon his various incarnations to battle in this world. He knows the gang is stronger together so he quickly decides to split up the gang. But knowing he isn’t at full strength, he decides he needs to call upon various past/future incarnations to beat them simultaneously. It’s why all cloud, the gang, and Zach are so critical to the battle . If either one fails, then sephiroth can focus more on each of them.
2. Aerith is clearly helping each party. Cloud by appearing to him, Zach by protecting him and the gang.
3. Aerith is correct that sephiroth didn’t succeed all the way and he genuinely shows signs of annoyance, surprise…he didn’t expect Aerith to a)survive? Or b)accept her fate, OR c)believe that Zach, cloud or the gang could ever beat him now. Remember, sepy IS STILL NOT AT FULL POWER, he is still recovering…
4. Did Zach gets sent back to the doomed world and hence meteor? Not sure. The church could be any incarnation of aerith’s church. And Zach’s world didn’t seem to mention any sign of a meteor approaching before he escaped sepiorth’s trap. And the church seems to be..in air or some kind of reality plane? Regardless it’s representing one aspect of sepy’s famous attack. But we do know that while Zach did help beat this version of sorority he didn’t stop meteor which is exactly what happened in the OG. Basically meteor unleashed cannot be stopped so it’s possible that Zach ended up back on the alternative world and sorority, after killing that physical body of aerith called meteor.
don't ask yourself questions.... they made a bleeding mess and there are not answers.... just take the whole FF7 Remake project and throw it to the dustbin....
@@fabio.g.3259 The original was a bleeding mess, so I guess it's not that different, huh?
@@MrCrunchytime It is a product of that time.. a fairy tale.. with some illogical non senses but it hooked millions of people which still talk today after 25 years or whatever.... It stayed in our consciousness for such a long time... this remake project will be soon forgotten as it has already happened for the ff7 remake... Nothing will be left...
@fabio.g.3259 Aw, that's so poetic that I could just puke. Do people actually take you seriously when you spout that tripe?
@@MrCrunchytime i'm sure you' re a tiny frustrated fapper with nothing to do other than fapping and playing games the whole day... Go fuck yourself out of that room and live life.. puke on your fucking face... You know...
Cloud laughing like SEPHIROTH gave me chills to the bone... what wrong with him?...
Sephiroth has the ability to manipulate those with Jenova cells. It's been a thing since the original game and Advent Children.
He got possessed
And he will be the final boss of the next game (joke)
@@ragnakisaragi5637 Could turn into truth 😂😅 we never know... But i guess not... Gotta say they made ma boi more angsty here and more scary in that sense how much Seph controlles him.
@@scribble71891he obviously didn’t play the original or else he wouldn’t have commented this lol
Ending the last fight with Firework Blade was just *chef’s kiss* so perfect.
Don’t overthink it. Everyone’s reactions clearly show Aerith died
I don't deny Aerith is dead, she's very much stated by the party who do not witness nearly as much. They saw her corpse, but Cloud can see her ghost or is able to interact with her through the lifestream? I honestly havn't a single clue but can only make guesses what they want us to think.
@@Polomance862 I think it would be more accurate to say that Aerith's ghost is interacting with Cloud through the lifestream.
It's two worlds, Cloud can see both for some reason. Every time a new timeline is created there's a rainbow effect. The effect also shows up when portals open between worlds.
For example, when Zack chooses to take the path to Shinra HQ, a rainbow light shines through the other path to Reactor 6, and then we get a new timeline where Zack goes to Reactor 6 instead. In the Shinra HQ timeline Stamp is a yorkie, in the Reactor 6 timeline Stamp is a pug.
When Cloud deflects Masamune, rainbow light radiates from the Buster Sword and fills the entire area. When the other party looks at the area they see Aerith dead and no rainbow light, but Cloud sees the rainbow light and Aerith is alive. We also get the Jenova Cell flickering showing glimpses of Cloud delivering his original monologue to Sephiroth about how Aerith will never cry or laugh again because of him.
The world in which Aerith dies is an ephemeral world with a torn sky, which means it's a world that will end soon. The same is true for Zack's worlds.
@@SuzakuXwouldn’t it be that the world where aerith lives is ephemeral because cloud is the only one with perception of her and therefore that world? Keep in mind Cloud was the only one to see the rift
@@SuzakuX this means that they will find a way to bring Aerith back through the multiverse?
Am I the only one who thinks that Arieth moved Zack to the timeline that Cloud and Company are in right now? If that's the case, then Zack is going to have Shinra back up from the Turks and will be able to work with Yuiffe to end the war. Plus, it really messes up the plan that Sephiroth has since Zack is an unounted for wildcard in this timeline.
Cissney of the Turks, her last job was to find and kill Cloud and Zack, if the turks of today meet Zack they will not shake hands and team up. Tseng is not a complete bad guy, but if it's his job he will fight Zack for sure.
@@williandasilva2534 in the end of Crisis Core, tseng tells cissnei and the other turks to find zack and cloud before shinra's army does, saying he has letters for zack, aerith's 88 letters. Obviously they were too late, but tseng was good friends with zack and still wanted him alive at the end.
@@fwuutonIf that is the case, why did Cissnei attack Zack earlier on during his and Cloud's escape from the laboratory? I also think the Turks aren't necessarily bad, but they're definitely known as more of a clean-up PR squad whose sole purpose is to defend Shinra.
Granted, I might just poke holes in my own argument by saying this, but it is also possible Cissnei never knew of Zack's situation beforehand, which is why she lends him a motorbike and warns him of approaching Gongaga. That also being said, Cissnei is more of a morally grey character than Tseng, Reno, or Rude, who are all much more fixed characters who follow command orders, and therefore would probably still target Zack since he was a research specimen. THAT also being said, chances are that they probably do want someone like Zack on their side anyway alongside Shinra to actually fight Sephiroth since Zack would be of equal rank to Sephiroth in Soldier.
Anyways, I'm going around in circles now.
I still hate the new whisper / time plot.
But Hell Cloud & Zack fighting together was extremely cool.
I hate how they butcher the iconic death of aerith
If Zack and Aerith are still around and party members in part 3 then its fine with me. If i want the OG story i can play the original game.
@@zackfair6791 what about if someone wants the OG story looking as beautiful as this game ??
@@86lanzofrankly you all act lile coddled children and shit on anything different claiming its convoluted when in reality you just want to shit things up for everyone else
Yeah, but this is Sephiroth redoing things, a sequel, not the original. More things will have changes, in the third and final game.
You know, I am beginning to wish there was a way to actually also save Sephiroth. He is a victim of madness and things outside his control that made him loose faith in people and life.
Wish there could be a way to return him to his real self. A honorable warrior, a leader, a friend.
It honestly disapoints me.that they keep setting him up as a victim but then just double.down on having.him be a genocidal villain in the end.anyway
Some things cannot change. Perhaps Genesis can fulfill that role. But Sephiroth chose his fate.
They definitely have worked to make him more sympathetic in recent years and in this game even, while constantly amping up how evil Shinra and Hojo were to everyone….but I also noticed that Rebirth doesn’t hold back on showing just how far gone Sephiroth is with hatred and madness. As unfortunate as it is, I just think it’s too late. He chose wrath and is willing to dive into hell for his revenge.
we don’t know how fate will turn out. Everything has become too confusing with these time lines. And we don’t know how dependent he is on Jenova’s influence - they made too sharp a contrast to him, without showing a single negative trait of him before the Nibelhelm Incident.. Well, if you think about it, no one and didn’t try to help him. Never at all. From the very beginning. Neither Professor Gast, nor his real mother, nor even Vincent, who still pretends that he knows nothing. I am silent about his friends and even Zack ignored his being in the basement without food and water when he was obsessed with reading.
It's too late to do that. Sephiroth has gone crazy. Even if Genesis or Angeal shows up in Part 3, there is no saving Sephiroth from his madness. That's just how he is right now
Zacks goodbye is the destruction of the alternate timeline
There's more than one.
@@netfan7117 you're right I just saw another scene where he woke up in the church where he thought it was all a dream but he doesn't believe that to be the case I wish it was a little more interaction between cloud and Zach.
they could always go "the one" route, old movie from Jet Li where each time an alternate version of his character died their energy was split between the remaining versions of him.
Would argue that it really looks that way what with how everything is overlapping due to both Jenova-Sephiroth and Cetra-Aerith meddling, but I would wait until we see Lucretia, Rhapsodos and how the protomateria that wasn't even touched upon yet
@@bloodycrow01 actually that's not a bad idea
@@bloodycrow01I remember that movie. The concept was very cool, and I thought it was awesome when I saw it at young age. Pretty crazy it was just two versions of Jet Li left.
1:47:15 Aerith 'heroic' entrance + theme
"On your left"
Cloud: "Aerith, I will defeat Sephiroth."
Aerith: "You promise?"
End Card: "No Promisea Await at Journey's End"
Me: ...WTF is that supposed to mean, Nomura?!?!
I love how they put “The Promised Land” from AC into this game at 1:00:00
Also, that transition from in-game cutscenes to CGI at 1:01:06 is spot on!
1:47:57 One-Winged Angel ★ Grand Finale
1:10:08 have you noticed ?
Sephiroth appears in this second, and 7 seconds later Cloud reacts
"7 seconds till the end. Time for you perchaps" ~ Sephiroth in Remake
Next game is about growing the white materia. She toke out the power so Cloud can make the White Materia his own as he power it up. Then he can fight the Black Materia's influence and change fate
I kinda understand the ending design. SE needed to approach the emotional peak of the OG, yet if they continue their multiverse and defying destiny plot (seems so, and I'm entirely OK with that), they needed to add ambiguity, and could not do the faithful retelling of the Aerith's death (it would not fit the narration, at least for now) or immediately describe it as averted (it would have destroyed the emotional impact). As it is, it's a good cliffhanger. Not perfect, but good, whatever the purists think.
But I think they placed enough hints about what's going on. And it seems that we are still in the "defying destiny" realm. The fate of every character will be truly finalized only in part 3.
you make the game sound like a placeholder, milking the story for more sales.
@@texteel I don't get this perspective. There's still a lot of actual good gameplay in this game, regardless of whether or not people like the changes to the story. This game's combat system is top-tier for a party-based action RPG, there are a ton of minigames and the presentation of the story is still entertaining, with great performances by the main cast.
@@texteel Story wise that's exactly what this game is. It's so chock full of mystery boxes that we didn't really learn anything.
or you know, a second part of a trilogy? is LOTR: Two Towers placeholder? No, but it does not end the character arcs.@@texteel
@@abraaomitichon7868 two towers also doesntr try to pull thigns like "is theoden crazy or being manipulated? FIND OUT I NTHE NEXT FILM/BOOK"
01:46:45 I felt the same Barret. How many forms did he need?
Seeing Zack and Cloud take on Sephiroth together?
I haven't been this excited about a double team since Dante and Vergil took on Arkham back in Devil May Cry 3.
I think towards the end that Aerith has turned her empty white materia into a kind of summoning materia.
Using that and possibly Cloud himself as an anchor to allow herself to still effect the world after her "death".
She may of physically died but that doesn't make her outright dead. Remember how many times Sephiroth has cheated death in this series
makes me wonder, *what if kingdom hearts cloud is remake/rebirth cloud*, a version of him on a seemingly endless journey to cleanse the remnants of Sephiroth lingering within himself? that’d explain the conversation him and Aerith had in Kingdom Hearts 2 before he left to go after Sephiroth imo….
So something i felt was worth pointing out
Cloud still has no idea about his own backstory or zacks story
He didnt get the moment to talk to Zack at all, which would've thrown off the timing of certain events
The only, only detail cloud could grasp to throw off original events happening is if he noticed zack was wielding the buster sword too, and his brain would likely scramble together an explanation for it anyways
Basically, him and zack fighting together was pure fanservice, and doesnt prevent original payoffs from happening down the line
Gotta wait 4 more years for the next one ❤
The amount of comments claiming that Aerith being 'alive' but a ghost is bs and 'bad' clearly haven't played the original. Sephiroth and Aerith both are highly powerful magic users with high attunements to the lifestream given
A) Sephiroth literally fell into into it, and refused to simply die, instead using his JENOVA cells to influence and push things in his direction.
B) Aerith is able to cast Holy and stop Meteor well after her death.
And this isn't even considering Advent Children with Sephiroth causing GeoStigma and Aerith curing it.
The presentation of the scenes' is admittedly a little hard to follow, and can be a bit confusing, but the end result is Aerith making herself visible to Cloud and Cloud alone while the rest of the party mourns her, essentially trying to keep Cloud in check for as long as she's able mentally so he can move on and stop Sephiroth.
Assuming the 3rd games' events leading up to the first visit of the Northern Crater play out as they did originally (which for the record, 80% if not a little bit more of the core story here stuck to the events of the PSX game) we can expect to see Sephiroth fully making use of a now 'dead' Aerith to rip that mental band aid right off and play Cloud like the 'puppet' he is.
most of these comments were made as soon as the game came out..none of these people played it and are just watching the few cutscenes on youtube lmao. ff7 fans will forever be a meme
She is not dead, we did not see Cloud lowering her body in the water.
Please I need Zack and Aerith be given a happy ending in the third please please T_T
I have a gut feeling that both Aerith and Sephiroth are from the future/different timelines and that in the 3rd game, all the living characters are going to come together to stop Sephiroth somehow.
From the way I see it, it will probably take place in Timeline 3 (Timeline 1 is the original one with the “Hound” Stamp, Timeline 2 is Zack’s timeline where he was pulled from which has the “Terrier” Stamp, and Timeline 3 is the one where Zack, Biggs are and where Cloud and Aerith have a date with Sephiroth coming in which has the “Bulldog” Stamp in 35:14) since it’s where all the characters have converged somehow at some point and where the “reunion” and convergence of worlds might happen (and from the way things are going, remade in Sephiroth’s image).
Aerith is not exactly from a different timeline tho as this is the same Aerith from the og FF7. The only difference is that, this version of Aerith has the knowledge of the future, that's why she knows everything that is bound to happen. Regarding Sephiroth, I believe he is indeed from the future. Probably post-AC version of him, and he went back to the past to mess up with Cloud again, and finish what he started since he failed in the og FF7... that is assuming he will win this time. But i highly doubt it 😆
@@michaelrobosa146 I get the feeling that he is trying to change the future (Obviously, since he ultimately lost and was destroyed), but he can't just turn against the flow of history. It's too much weight even for him. So he is manipulating events to cause small changes, nudge the river of time, overlap possible fates, and draw others into the alterations, nudging them outside the flow of Fate so they can add weight to the changes. Like throwing pebbles into a river until you build up enough to change its path, inch by inch.
There's also the fact that the 'Sephiroth' through most of the game is actually Jenova assuming Sephiroth's form, or a Sephiroth clone, not his actual body, so I suspect that further limits future Sephiroth. He can't straight override his past self, just nudge. So he couldn't avoid making the kill strike (Not with the Whispers working against him), but he COULD manipulate Cloud into blocking it.
In the OG, the White Materia turned green, to signify Holy had been cast. It was a plot point. In this? It never turned green. Holy was never cast. The sacrifice was never made.
Stamp is not a bulldog in the timeline where Cloud and Aerith have a date. Look at 30:08. The dog on the right is the Stamp in that timeline, it even says so when you hover over it when selecting Aerith's gift. There's also Stamp themed candy a bit later in the same sequence which again shows that Stamp is not a bulldog in that timeline.
Zack: Imma punch Sephiroth in the face
Tifa: Don’t steal my thing
Why i thought, the Aerith that has died is the one that gave Cloud the white materia cause she said "goodbye" and looks like sephiroth gonna kill her in church. And during impaling scene, its like swapping memories using white materia, the aerith that has empty white materia is survived and stay in another universe as she mentioned "2nd home" in ending while aerith that has lost white materia is dead in the scene instead. The party is sad, but Cloud seems like understood and keep it cool move forwards. Aerith continue to save the world and cloud party jobs to stop sephiroth.
I could assume that Cloud mental state is recovering as Red also feels the present of our Aerith.
I will expect 3rd game she still playable, i love her range skill during combat.
27:23 Do not be alarmed - you are fast asleep in the real world. I have summoned you within your... sorry... mine dreams.
Igor... 😅
Wait, so the white whispers are aeriths, so that means she was stopping the group to get to her so that she could die ?
It could be. Since the black whispers is following Sephiroth, the white whispers could be following Aerith, not Aerith herself.
pretty sure thats the case - she had to die.
@@jaypi2038 I don't think she lived or died. We see that there's both the reality of which she is saved and one that she died. But now we're in an "in-between" of realities hence Cloud being able to see Aerith and Sephiroth acknowledging her existence. Red also senses her.
What we can gather is that the White Whispers are the "correction" to fate. Called upon by Aerith to allow fate to follow it's destined path. While Sephiroth's black whispers seem to reflect a forced manipulation of fate. Perhaps forcing change or fruitful changes to hinder the party ahead.
She has to die so she can destroy meteor (black material) she's basically a plan b since plan A will fail you will see in pt3
Welp, it's time to get the game just to see Two Buster Swords
exactly.... and two rotating and floating guys like never before... if I would have been the foes I would surely being laughing all the time...
Sephiroth; oh Cloud I will weaken your sense of reality making you pliable.
Cloud; i reject your reality and substitute my own.
Sepiroth; bugger
They gave us so much but one last thing Id ask for is Angeal being with them when they held their swords to their heads and recited that line together.
I get it now.
Totally get it.
"Even if you fall in love with me, none of this is real." ~Aerith
Not the aerith from this FFVII world but another parallel FFVII world. Some how Sephiroth has disrupted the timeline. This aerith who can appear from one timeline to another.
Or this is the "actual aerith" from that timeline. Now has become more powerful from the life stream to follow in between timelines to stop the corruption.
I swear she is a gutsy girl to challenge Sephiroth on her own knowing how pwerful he is. But she knows the timeline.
"7 seconds till the end. Time enough for you perhaps. But what will you do with it lets see" ~Sephiroth
What do you know we dont? What awaits us in the next journey? We shall see.
You dont get it , i think no one will get it lol, something messed up here
Yooo!! Nice interpretation
Take out the fanboy glasses and accept the pain, the sorrow, the DISAPPOINTMENT!
Rebirth and its marketing was the promise. A game that would explain and a game that would set things straight for “the new adventure”.
But NOOOOOOO
I can see it, as clear as day.
We are playing a pretentious formula.
The game itself is and will be fun, but predictable.
FF7 part 3 will be another “semi-faithful” game until the final chapters in which they will take insane levels of liberty and add another mish mash of crazy ideas.
We never saw a universe where Zack survived, but rather a time paradox where Zack survived… BUT ENTERED A COPY OF A REGULAR FF7 STORY! Where everyone knows Cloud and his actions till the end of Midgar section.
Speculating is worthless and it’s not meant to be resolved.
The entirety of the “new content” only mattered at the end.
The one saving grace is that the 2 insane people who wanted a 1 for 1 Remake got the final nail in the coffin, with Sephiroth giving a full explanation of how there are many multiverses and nothing really matters.
To think FF7 became Kingdom Hearts. Would have been a noble concept a decade ago. But not today when you have Rick and Morty, Marvel and MK11 onwards.
@@josetomascamposrobledano4618 Dude chill out. Advent Children established ~20 years ago that both Sephiroth and Aerith (and Zach) lived on in the Lifestream.
Sephiroth is a legendary antagonist - with his origin story and power scaling, and submersion in the Lifestream, it makes sense that he'd have developed the power to try one last hurrah to get what he wants.
I don't think y'all would be NEARLY as satisfied with a 1:1 retelling "Just With Better Graphics" as you think... and think about it - a 1:1 wouldn't be motivating for the Devs to work on, either; They'd spend all this time - most of decade - doing all this super-detailed work crafting every little bit of a world for a game that everyone knows the story beats for. It would probably do nothing but break even financially, and would almost certainly *leave no real mark on the Gaming World*. That would be a *miserable* project to work on!
There's no way we could ask the Devs to do that: There's over TWENTY YEARS of FF7 expanded universe material to explain, incorporate, and build upon. This new story has only tweaked a few small elements, and in doing so, has created enormous hype and anticipation for the showdowns in Part 3.
Yes... if they mess up Part 3, by letting the 'Multiverse' stuff get "silly" such that it derails the spirit of FF7.... then the Remake Trilogy will be regarded as a failure.
...But if Hamaguchi & Co. craft an interesting, coherent conclusion to this new 'Multiverse' layer of the story, the ending will probably rock, and Remake will deserve its accolades.
And really, $180 ($60 x 3) over the course of TEN YEARS is CHUMP CHANGE to pay for the level of graphics, sound, voice acting, cinematics, and gameplay we're getting from this.
I really don't think you can reasonably disagree with this.
They delivered us a treat, here - Appreciate it.
bro the sephiroth theme in the last fight goes so fucking hard.
Is it just me or does it seem like there are three different wills at work here, you got Sephiroth with his shtick, then you got the arborators, and it also seems like the life stream itself has something going on.
I am absolutely dreading this fight on Hard Mode! I'm currently on Chapter 11 playing as Cait Sith on HM and also not looking forward to Vincent! I'm going to try to hammer him with Debuffs hoping it works just as good as it did on Normal!!
Only Cloud can see Aerith spiritually and the dimensional rift. The emotional breakdown on her original death remains unchanged for everyone else except Cloud who finds peace towards his true goal. What bothers me is that Vincent remains entirely quiet after the party left the ancient Cetra capital. He knew what was going on and feign ignore the entire time (The whole incident reminds him of failing Lucrecia and preventing Jenova Project). Professor Hojo's(The true villain of the entire FF7 Compilation) schemes only worsen compared to the original and Rufus figured out he's a mere puppet earlier after killing Glenn/whisper. So far Part 3 looking to tie up everything and the split in the timelines. I think SE should cover Vincent's POV as a DLC story just like Yuffie's in Remake Intergrade as he has alot of ground to cover in the Remake trilogy and his vendetta against Prof. Hojo without sabotaging Cloud's POV in the main story. Cid should have been playable in Rebirth main story though....
yeah, but if Vincent is covered as a POV he'll lose the oomph he had previously, they already messed up what DoC ended up covering (chaos, omega, weiss, rhapsodos, hojo and more) so it'd be more interesting to see and even further back DLC covering his dad, him as a turk (or Lucretia's guard) and then Lucretia's future, I mean, she should be pretty much alive in that crystal cocoon even up until Part 2 ending, hell, even after part 3 ends Lucretia should still be alive so they may even cover that in future DLCs
Red can sense her too.
Aerith and team got some legs of steel, they managed to kick away giant rocks while running
I like how he says all the mako is bone dry but the lights are still on and they phased out coal almost completely the nearly a generation before lol.
UM so with the "I'm waiting cloud" and then the exact same sequence with the meteor and Whispers flowing into Sephiroth again, are they implying that like the endings of the games are happening simultaneously or something? Like, that TIME means nothing in the lifestream or something, so what we heard in the first game was actually an echo of the ending of THIS GAME? Like it's some timeless moment/realm?
You're probably right; Your comment just made my realize something:
So the general consensus is that Seph's trying to manipulate the different forces in the Lifestream to...
1) CONVERGE all timelines - which itself is unnatural, hence why Cloud says the Planer's 'screaming'
2) Win complete power in that ONE, final, combined timeline.
He's so bitter at his loss in FF7 Original and again in Advent Children, that he's going for broke this time. Otherwise, this would've been his plan in the Original game.
This also makes the stakes in the Remake Trilogy FAR higher than just 'Meteor' in the Original. Sephiroth - a total irredeemable heartless psycho, with Jenova cells in him to boot - holding the entire planet, the entire lifestream, and all the people under his sway, would probably be the worst possible outcome imaginable.
So yeah - the scene(s) where Seph vacuums up the Meteor is probably a mental projection of his Final Plan - The game's gonna play out the same as the original, but right as meteor is crashing down, Seph will change things up by trying to soak up the entire lifestream. THAT is what that vision is showing, and that (and the stuff the party must do to make things work out) will be Rebirth Part 3's final twists.
And you're right, it CAN'T be happening for real, because...
1) Seph would be invincible is he'd already absorbed all / half the Lifestream
2) The fact that Meteor's being explicitly shown over multiple realities, and yet Seph only absorbs the whispers in ONE is may indicate that he's still trying to consolidate to a single timeline
3) As you said, why are they showing it twice? Meteor's not the sort of thing that can happen more than once in a given timeline... and it happens at the END of the game. I think this is just standard Nomura misdirection to create tension.... and let's be honest, it absolutely does, even if it is a little confusing.
So yeah, I think you're right - Seph is trying to demoralize the party by using his Lifestream powers to have them "visit that moment in time", either as hallucinations, or by having them actually 'physically' visit that moment using Lifestream shenanigans.
But to be clear, the 'vacuuming' shows in RM and RB still "haven't happened" yet - if it happens FOR REAL, it'll happen in Part 3.
Why didn't Cloud tell Aerith anything about Zack? He did not inform her of his return
Cloud: Aerith? Give it to me, you can trust me....please? then *proceed to laugh creepily like sephiroth* RUN AERITH RUUUUUN. You can see how sephiroth enjoy hurting cloud, playing with him ...very creepy
So the merger of worlds caused Aerith to die? And Cloud’s actions would’ve led to a new timeline but due to the merger by Sephiroth, it rendered it null.
More of, in a state of critical balance.
7:04
Me: No....THAT is seriously NOT CLOUD. Looks like Sephiroth is messing with his mind AGAIN.
This ending had me in bits, but the storytelling, combat and OST were on point here. Hats off to Square for this epic segment!
i understand how people dont like this… but my god. i cant explain how i feel but its unlike anything before. and thats what i hoped for above everything else. what a beautiful ending
Even though Clouds PTSD distorts Aeriths image to make him think shes unharmed I wonder how the hell that works when he clearly gets into position almost half a meter away and succesfully blocks the end of Sephiroths blade from reaching Aerith, clearly forcing him to jump back, and that still results in Aerith getting impaled through
Because it's not PTSD. It's just Cloud glitching into a different timeline where he saved Aerith. She jas blood in one timeline and nothing on the other. It's obvious since Cloud entered alone without the party a new timeline was created signified by the rainbow colours just like the rest of the game. And at the moment Cloud strikes Sephiroth another timeline is created where Cloud saves Aerith. We just see the aftermath of a timeline where she died and somehow Sephiroth transferred Clouds mind to the timeline where she died or lived and that's why Cloud can see her but rhe others can't. I am pretty sure in part 3 we'll see the split because we'll be playing in a world where Aerith is not dead.
Cloud laughing at the black materia gave me absolute chills in my spine cody Christian completely nailed cloud's personality!
Just when you think we've lost Zack for the last time, he comes back to fight along cloud, then gets abruptly taken again, has a closure fight with Sephiroth in Aeriths church and then says "Guess this is goodbye" okay so he's passing on then ".......for now" so he's still in the game! Falls into a white void, presumably the Lifestream says "See ya!" and vanishes. DAMN TEASE! Reappears in the church waking up like it was all a dream and hinting he'll reunite with Cloud again. Good Lord😮💨
Man Square Enix out here dragging our hearts through torture like Mrs Puff dragging SpongeBob through Educational Television
I kinda wondering what happen if Vincent face of Sephiroth and told him who actually he's not son of Jenova🤔?
Dude Would Go CRAZY And Probably HUNT Hojo And KILL HIM And Those Who Lied To Him All Those Years Also He Would Show Alot Of Remorse To Cloud By Apologizing For The Nibelheim Incident And Maybe He Can Bring Aerith Back So He Can Also Apologize To Her
Except Cloud Aerith Vincent Cid And Lucrecia And He'd Reverse EVERYTHING He's Done To Cloud And Others
You think that after roaming the Lifestream and all its memories, he DOESN'T know this? He's the living legacy of Jenova yes, but he no longer speaks kindly of her. He's USING Jenova.
@@haileeraestout5567 lol yeah something in OG who never happen like Sephiroth know the real truth about he actually not Jenova's son
@@SwobyJ btw is Vincent know about Sephiroth is Lucrecia son?
1:09:30 Cloud? Buddy... what are you doing?
1:09:50 CLOUD! GOSH DARN IT! PUT THE SWORD DOWN!
1:10:00 Oh... no. Not this again...
1:10:21 OH! This is new.
1:10:35 HA! Defied Fate! Aerith lives!
1:11:03 Wuh? What just happened?
1:11:12 No... Not again.
this is how it might have been if Zack stepped in Advent Children Complete
Zack and Cloud fighting together? wow!!
21:08 Cloud's so creepy here. BRUH
2:11:24 To be concluded in 2029 for PS6. 😏
I'm optimistic they'll make it in 2027, to celebrate FF7's 30th birthday.
@@MrReubenTishkoff if it took five years to make this, who say won’t take another five years to make the next one? At least we’ll finally have GTA6! lol
@@CPT85 They already said the work for part 3 was already underway before Rebirth launched. And that it will share a lot of things with Rebirth (probably world map, travel system, battle mechanics etc) so there's a lot of ground work already covered. I truly believe they are aiming for the 30th anniversary.
Good bye bone village, good bye earth harp. We (FFVII ori fans) will really miss you all! 😭
Bone village isx in the northern continent, which is only visited after this part in the OG. I expect it to appear in the next game. Same with Wutai, Rocket Town, Mideel...
@@MrReubenTishkoff in OG, bone village is next to sleeping forest. And the only way to go to forgoten capital is from the village. And sorry, that is lunar harp (i got remember). Absolutely they will make it in next part (or the most memorable cut content will doom the series). but for me (or perhaps someone else) the stories was going "over the top", alternative timelines leaves mystery for the OG fans for new twist, thats ok to embold the enthusiasm for final release. But leaving most particular main plot tasteless, flat emotion. I dont get the deep feeling of the red xii - seto scene like it was, or the moment aerith-sephiroth which gave as shock and sad moment before. Perhaps remake, the editor did it to fast pace by scene, not give as time for us to empathy of the moment. 145 GB with missing this thing is such huge loss, better they just focus to create bold-strong chemisty in main story passing the OG achieve rather than making something new for enrich but fail to deliver the emotions.
@@odinsguide7685 I agree with many of your points. Rebirth and Remake do suffer from excess investment in padding at the expense of main story. I am still hopeful they will tie it in in Reunion (I speculate it will be called Reunion for many reasons).
In the OG, both Earth harp and Lunar Harp could be obtained after we obtain the submarine. Lunar harp is hidden in a cave, Earth harp is the reward after defeating Emerald Weapon. I believe they will make an appearance.
@@MrReubenTishkoff reunion must be. Or we called it FINAL FANTASY 7: EVERYTHING EVERYWHERE ALL AT ONCE 🤣🤣. sakaguchi and team must be inspired by this A24 movie.
No. No ... lunar harp is found in bone village via digging for treasure mini games. The things we found deep in the ocean by submarine is ancient music key (then we used in forgotten capital by buggenhagen help). Yes, earth harp is the item drop from emerald weapon.
@@odinsguide7685 sorry I confused the "ancient music key" with Lunar harp. 😅
We also need bone village for the W-Summon materia. And ultima (rare find, but could happen).
1:29:13 Dang, sephiroth even does his octaslash to prime octaslash combo from dissida, they added everything into this game :D
remake ended in a hopeful way, people we thought had died and were meant to have died we saw survive or were hinted to have lived.
rebirth ended in the worst possible results for the world. double black materia. the white materia was not only made colorless by the whispers but also turned dark by cloud. and the failure to actually save aerith. and cloud not being a coma only makes it more impossible for him to be cured of sephiroth's corruption.
they sure do know how to make is suspenseful
Sephiroth really went full Xehanort here,huh
So we're getting the remake of advent children next... Where cloud finally defeat sephiroth for real
That Jenova lifeclinger fight is frickin epic
I just bought the game 3 days ago, got the stuff installed but haven’t played it yet as I wanna finish ff16 first which I got a little before buying ff7 rebirth, my point is I don’t need to see the boss battle, it would kill the excitement
Why does Red's voice sound like a kid now compared the the beginning of the game?
Its his real voice. He put on that voice to be treated as an equal, not a child. This was a thing in the OG but was lost in the English translation, hense why you will likely see lots of bitching about it.
Because that's his real voice. He revealed his kid voice in Cosmo Canyon. Before that, he wanted to sound more mature and be treated as an adult in Cloud's group. Red is basically still a child (in human years about 15 years old).
I’m just super glad this video was recommended to me right after I finished the game. I would’ve got so triggered just from how the thumbnail spoils such a major plot twist.
I don't know how they screwed up a basic story with whispers and multiverse madness.
SE should have just made a new alternative story instead, people would have still brought it to see their favorites.
Tbh I got a massive headache on WTF kind of ending is that and after what I witness that ending suck
We really need a Final Fantasy world in Kingdom Hearts
I wish they had birth of a god, such an underrated song
God. The mystery boxes. What is this a JJ Abrahms film?
Demon gate looks like a Xenomorph.
A remake with a different timeline? So that means Aerith might survive!
Devs: "Oh, erm, no."
It was set from the beginning that they wouldnt bring her back, no matter what.
@@lkay4698but they kind of did they just took a bizarre narrative half measure
Damn it... This always hurt so friggin much. But, this? It hurts in a whole new level...
I was so confused by this ending that I’m asking everywhere for confirmation that this will NOT connect to advent children.
pretty much this, it's a retelling changing a lot of things from pretty much all previous releases
I mean to be fair some of the writing deviations are making things more confusing than they need to be. Its not really the changes themselves are being criticized, but just the execution.
Definitely still agree that the game was a masterpiece, but the concerns about the ending are valid. Part 3 will determine how well everything ages.
@@ry2950 This, 100%. I loved basically everything about this game but the ending, which really takes all the emotional impact out of Aerith dying.
its hotdog water filled with random fan fiction and making all the badass characters PC and lame aka what they did to cid they clearly force it in other than great graphics nothing else
@@carl9283 The original made him an abusive husband and played it for laughs. It WAS cringe, not everything is a conspiracy by the woke SJW hive mind lmao.
Cloud and Zack be like in Jujutsu Kaisen
just be like Gojo and Geto fight Sukuna/Toji
1:11:04 *You are My Special~*
Yuji and Todo vs Mahito more like
Cloud and zack fighting Scephiroth together gives me ever crisis intro vibes 😅
Insane prologue and first chapter, about 10 more chapters of padding, and then everything and the kitchen sink of pure undiluted peak gaming cinema on chapter 14. Love the game but man
Guys that not really Aerith it's Jenova in disguise he's going to use Aerith Jenova it's what she does you've been doing it for a thousand years since the time of the ancients she takes the form of loved ones with his past and turns them against each other
If my good heart will kill me I wouldn’t wanna die of any other way.
I haven’t finished the game yet but, so does Cloud possess both white and black materia?🤔
Still not used to them changing Red’s voice 🤣
Cloud has ptsd and cant accept that Aerith is dead. Aerith and Zack are in the Lifestream, not an alternate universe. Thats what I feel at least.
It's weird that Sepiroth acknowledge's Aerith's existence after her supposed death; as if this was just ptsd then no one but Cloud would be able to see and interact with her.
I think they included Red XIII sensing aerith to contradict this interpretation
@@clarityreunited 100%
He needs medication
@@clarityreunited Aerith consults Red throughout the game cause his people are spiritual. Red and Barrett sense Wedge in the lifestream at one point. Red has dialogue explaining the lifestream to Barrett so that he understands Wedge isn’t alive in their world. Red’s people are Cetra-like. They are very spiritual and in tune with the planet. Nobody else saw or heard Aerith besides Cloud or Red ( Cloud was also holding her materia, plus he still thinks he’s Zack so obviously the guys not all there, especially now.)
I swear if we don't get safer sephiroth in the last part but 3 sephiroths im going to be disappointed.
This is a perfect remake they try to give each character some closure and happy ending even if some might died but the endless possibility of world make it possible for brighter future like zack alive? even if we never know in which world he reside or if even exist cause it still the same world but different path which we can see the ending of it soon
This fight was actually the 2nd last boss to the original. So what happens next? Wonder how the final boss gonna be like in the final chapter?
The last last
There's so much going on, I'm honestly lost what they're trying to portray. There's a conflux of fate going on, timelines of various sorts going on at once and it seems Sephiroth is trying to unite all worlds into a singular one... But what does any of this mean?
Why does Cloud have the Black Materia?
What does the empty White Materia mean?
Is Aerith truly dead, or are we seeing a ghost of her?
What does Zach's timeline mean for the one we play through?
What does any of this means with worlds uniting and parting?
I feel Rebirth forces more questions than they do answer and it does agitate me. I imagine they'll do another installation much like Intergrade, adding more to the mix but I've no idea what to expect going forward.
Empty White Materia has a HUGE meaning. Play/Watch gameplays of OG game.
A bit kinder moment of her passing but turn out pretty good so looking forward to the next Final Fantasy 7 remake chapter game :3
Square really is leaning into the telling stories that make no sense niche. The moment you start playing with timelines, all continuity is lost and nothing matters anymore because you can just snap a finger and everything is fixed regardless of what happened.