Thanks for posting Rory. You’re doing a good job stating the errors the players are making and also congratulating them on their good shots. Keep up the reviews please.
For the people saying that we are to serious not having fun and I’m not athletic. This was the last match of the day( 11th or 12th match we were all exhausted) lol
@@pickleballpick-apart9787 we played 5 hrs straight this match was our final for bronze. Also played women’s doubles before this 😁 had a blast but had no gas. Lol
Hey, thanks Rory! I’ve started sharing your videos with some of my Pickleball friends and your comments are beginning to help them like they’ve helped me.
Rory, thanx for posting. The lady in white was by far the best player on the court. From all of your beginner videos this was the best played by far. They may not have all the shots consistently but they understood the game and executed to the 3.0 level. The lady in white was IMHO a 3.5 but is not the most athletic.
Nice analysis. I agreed with pretty much everything. Woman in white did have nice touch and nice shots but her court positioning might have been the worst of the 4. I know you hate the lob but there was a really good one from the near side and they lost the point because they actually moved back to defend the return rather than getting to the net. I am sometimes guilty of admiring my lobs and not moving to the net and it often costs me. I am not a fan of stacking. I thought they were all pretty solid 3.0s and it wouldn't take a whole lot of coaching to get them to 3.25.
Hi, Rory. Tired of me yet? 😅 You make a lot of good points about court positioning, ball height, etc. Definitely does look like 3.0 play as I know it. Two more points. (1) AFAIK the third-shot drop is really a 3.5+ thing. A bit surprised to see anyone on that court even attempting one.. Overall I'd say the woman in white - the only one really trying them - is getting close to a 3.5 except some positioning/consistency issues. The others ... well, not so much. (2) I disagree with you a bit on lobs. I find them *extremely* effective at the 3.0 level, and still quite a useful alternative to the third-shot drop even at 3.5 - especially on third shot, depending on what the return looks like and whether they're moving up or not. I also find them easier to execute than a third-shot drop, which new 3.5 players will often put a bit too high for an almost-free point to their opponents. Like me. 😂 Lastly, even if it doesn't quite get past them but just gets high enough to force them to hit from the backcourt, I find that a lot of 3.5 opponents either screw up the return completely or only return quite weakly. I'd love it if you could address lobs more in some future video, because (obviously) I think there are a lot of misunderstandings about when they work and why. Keep up the good work!
Thanks for taking the time to write the lengthy reply. I usually play outdoors and wind is almost always a factor. It's difficult to judge how much the wind is going to affect a lob. Most of the players I play against, outdoors, either hit it out of the court, or do not hit it deep enough and it's smashed back ending the point or getting the opponent to pop it up for a put away.
When returning server, even pros have trouble stacking and getting to the other side of the court. The guy in white has no chance to get from the back left to the kitchen on the right, so the white team should not stack in that configuration. Stacking when serving has no issues moving to the right spot, so anyone can do that. But unless you are in a 3.0 tournament, stacking does not help you get better.
I could be wrong , but the guy in white , if you look closely, has his index & middle fingers in the paddle face opening in his top-of-the-line paddle . Not sure ?
Yep , he's got his index & middle finger in that paddle face opening . Look how far up the butt of the paddle handle is above his wrist . Wow , this guy has a lot to learn before he should even begin to attempt stacking .
I notice that the lady in pink as an awkward forehand, she seems to hit with from her elbow instead of her shoulder. I think that this could cause a lot of errors. But maybe she has a shoulder injury.
As im watching this i can say i used to pop up EVERY SINGLE BALL i was using an onix z5 paddle, i bought a selkirk epic amped paddle and my dinks and returns are so much better.
Hey Guys I’m the lady in white aka farmerkim Thanks for using my video. I enjoyed it.
You're more than welcome. You are a very good player. Good job with the third shot drops.
Enjoy the game!
@@pickleballpick-apart9787 Would you still call her a 3.0 or are the others at 3.0 and she's higher?
what rating are you now?
Thanks for posting Rory. You’re doing a good job stating the errors the players are making and also congratulating them on their good shots. Keep up the reviews please.
You're welcome. Thanks for watching. I will.
For the people saying that we are to serious not having fun and I’m not athletic. This was the last match of the day( 11th or 12th match we were all exhausted) lol
There's no way I can play 11 or 12 games in a day. I would be exhausted, too.
@@pickleballpick-apart9787 we played 5 hrs straight this match was our final for bronze. Also played women’s doubles before this 😁 had a blast but had no gas. Lol
Well after hearing that, great stamina and very good play from all of you. You all probably see what you need to work on but overall well done. 👍🏻
Another great video. Thumbs up & subscribed!
Thanks for the lesson yesterday. The ladies both said that it raised the confidence level tremendously!
Awesome! I enjoyed it, too.
Hey, thanks Rory! I’ve started sharing your videos with some of my Pickleball friends and your comments are beginning to help them like they’ve helped me.
Awesome, thank you! I really appreciate it.
Rory, thanx for posting. The lady in white was by far the best player on the court. From all of your beginner videos this was the best played by far. They may not have all the shots consistently but they understood the game and executed to the 3.0 level. The lady in white was IMHO a 3.5 but is not the most athletic.
She was definitely the best player.
Nice analysis. I agreed with pretty much everything. Woman in white did have nice touch and nice shots but her court positioning might have been the worst of the 4. I know you hate the lob but there was a really good one from the near side and they lost the point because they actually moved back to defend the return rather than getting to the net. I am sometimes guilty of admiring my lobs and not moving to the net and it often costs me. I am not a fan of stacking. I thought they were all pretty solid 3.0s and it wouldn't take a whole lot of coaching to get them to 3.25.
Good points. I admire my lobs as well. That causes me to sometimes not move forward as I watch them falling from the sky.
How do we submit videos to be analyzed?
If you have a RUclips channel, send me a link. I'll be happy to do it.
@@pickleballpick-apart9787 would a fb link work?
4:02 - lady in pink does not let the ball bounce on her partner's serve.
I didn't notice that.
Very helpful, thanks.
Thanks for watching! I'm glad it's helping you.
Whats a level 3 player, beginner level?
A true beginner is 2.5. Thanks for watching.
Hi, Rory. Tired of me yet? 😅 You make a lot of good points about court positioning, ball height, etc. Definitely does look like 3.0 play as I know it. Two more points. (1) AFAIK the third-shot drop is really a 3.5+ thing. A bit surprised to see anyone on that court even attempting one.. Overall I'd say the woman in white - the only one really trying them - is getting close to a 3.5 except some positioning/consistency issues. The others ... well, not so much. (2) I disagree with you a bit on lobs. I find them *extremely* effective at the 3.0 level, and still quite a useful alternative to the third-shot drop even at 3.5 - especially on third shot, depending on what the return looks like and whether they're moving up or not. I also find them easier to execute than a third-shot drop, which new 3.5 players will often put a bit too high for an almost-free point to their opponents. Like me. 😂 Lastly, even if it doesn't quite get past them but just gets high enough to force them to hit from the backcourt, I find that a lot of 3.5 opponents either screw up the return completely or only return quite weakly. I'd love it if you could address lobs more in some future video, because (obviously) I think there are a lot of misunderstandings about when they work and why. Keep up the good work!
Thanks for taking the time to write the lengthy reply. I usually play outdoors and wind is almost always a factor. It's difficult to judge how much the wind is going to affect a lob. Most of the players I play against, outdoors, either hit it out of the court, or do not hit it deep enough and it's smashed back ending the point or getting the opponent to pop it up for a put away.
If this is 3.0, I’m definitely a 3.5 at least. Been playing for 2 months now.
Moving on up! Thanks for watching.
When returning server, even pros have trouble stacking and getting to the other side of the court. The guy in white has no chance to get from the back left to the kitchen on the right, so the white team should not stack in that configuration. Stacking when serving has no issues moving to the right spot, so anyone can do that.
But unless you are in a 3.0 tournament, stacking does not help you get better.
Thanks for watching and thanks for your comments.
I could be wrong , but the guy in white , if you look closely, has his index & middle fingers in the paddle face opening in his top-of-the-line paddle . Not sure ?
Thanks for pointing out. I'll take a look.
Yep , he's got his index & middle finger in that paddle face opening . Look how far up the butt of the paddle handle is above his wrist . Wow , this guy has a lot to learn before he should even begin to attempt stacking .
I notice that the lady in pink as an awkward forehand, she seems to hit with from her elbow instead of her shoulder. I think that this could cause a lot of errors. But maybe she has a shoulder injury.
She does. Thanks for catching and pointing that out.
I am not convinced itnis a shoulder issue, but more of her grip. It is quite odd and it forces her to flip at the ball using her elbow. Very strange.
As im watching this i can say i used to pop up EVERY SINGLE BALL i was using an onix z5 paddle, i bought a selkirk epic amped paddle and my dinks and returns are so much better.
I get it. That Onyx Z5 paddle, in my opinion, is not a good paddle. It sounds like no other paddle.
I would rate them all at 2.5
Maybe so. Thanks for watching.
No. Definitely 3.0-3.5 especially with the lady who hits all the 3rd shot drops. That is NOT 2.5 level
Thank you!
You're welcome! Thanks for watching.
These players look like 2.5 to me.
Thanks for your opinion.
2 month player here. I’m learning a lot from watching your review.
That's awesome! I'm glad my videos are helping. Thanks for watching!
Good video but I would say they are not up to 3.0 imo.
Thanks for watching and thanks for your opinion.
Love your videos! Very unique and helpful.
So the guy in white learnt about stacking but doesn't know other basics like 3rd shop drop. Talk about putting the cart before the horse...
I see this so often. 3.0 players stacking, thinking it will make their team better. It doesn't. Thanks for watching.
is this game fun? looks like they are being punished and being forced to play?
You see that a lot. Some people take the game too seriously.
I agree! Some of the people I have played with seem to think they are serious pros. It's all ego.@@pickleballpick-apart9787