Every time I heard the siren before i thought someone was dying or their house was on fire. I hate that in a sense, I was right. To the sound of that siren, people had to segregate themselves or were beaten and therefore, dying inside. Any community that doesn’t respect ALL of the residents and what they want to demonstrate equality…their house is on fire.
The old guy being like “what I said is the way it is and anyone who recognizes the history of the siren (he calls it reading more into it) is wrong and that’s that.” Bro get over yourself you aren’t the main character
I once lived at a place in the USA (not in the "South") where there was a giant, upright, freestanding, concrete cross on the hill overlooking the town. The concrete one replaced an earlier wooden one and, although it was never openly discussed, it was widely known that the wooden monument was originally put up (during the Jim Crow era) to replicate crosses burned by the KKK on that spot in earlier years. Like Minden, NV, this place used to be a "sundown town" and its history includes a lot of other shameful racist elements too. Eventually, the City (which owned the monument and the land it sat on) lost a lawsuit due to the cross being viewed as, in effect, an endorsement of one religion, excluding others, and, therefore, unconstitutional since it was publicly owned. The craziest part is that the City then simply declared the cross to be a veterans' memorial and it no longer had to be removed. smh
It sounds like a bomb siren. Look, the ordinance is gone, it's not a sundown town anymore. Now it's just a tradition to run the siren. Most people don't even have a clue about the sundown past and make zero connection to it.
A Siren cannot be racist. It does not hold grudges or form opinions. It is a machine that does not think. It knows only to scream. And scream it shall...
@kellykel4472 it doesn't really represent anything ill intentioned anymore. It's one of thousands of sirens still used by fire departments to both warn firemen of a disaster, and pay tribute to those who have sacrificed themselves for the well being of others
@@kellykel4472 It's frustrating when you're forced to explain the obvious to someone, isn't it? Even more so because it's almost always an exercise in futility (sadly, there's rarely a 'cure' for willful ignorance and/or denial). I empathize with you.
@@mugwump242 Sipex knows what hes talkinga about. theres no need for a explanation a siren is a object, it does not have feelings or emotions. the fire dept supplies power to the motor and the chopper spins. like Sipex said, that was Years, years ago. it does not represent anything bad anymore.
@@thatsirenenthusiastI hate that argument because you could literally apply it to anything controversial. The confederate flag, nazi symbol etc etc It was used for something bad in the past. To try and repurpose it today would be in bad taste.
@@MoyaBrennan6825 This siren may have a racist past but is no longer racist. I am a siren enthusiast and I'm not saying this siren is beautiful because its past, but I'm saying its a beautiful example of the rare type of siren it is. I'm totally against racism and I hate the fact this siren has a racist past.
@@MoyaBrennan6825 Just even apart from the history of racism, what a sad-ass and unimaginative tradition! Couldn't they come up with something interesting and pleasing to hear, like bells or a carillon? Sirens make a hideous racket, by design, and they are not supposed to be used for frivolous non-emergency things. The last thing you want for an emergency siren if for people to hear it so often that they become used to it or have to wonder every time if this is the "real deal".
Every time I heard the siren before i thought someone was dying or their house was on fire. I hate that in a sense, I was right. To the sound of that siren, people had to segregate themselves or were beaten and therefore, dying inside. Any community that doesn’t respect ALL of the residents and what they want to demonstrate equality…their house is on fire.
The old guy being like “what I said is the way it is and anyone who recognizes the history of the siren (he calls it reading more into it) is wrong and that’s that.” Bro get over yourself you aren’t the main character
You don't need a siren to tell time...just look at your cell phone.
Maybe people dont have a phone or watch on hand?
Having a siren as a "whistle" is a century old firefighting tradition
@@Sipex6484 exactly
The sound of that siren is chilling
Disgusting. What an awful tradition!! Why continue something that evokes pain to the Native Americans.
It’s not for sundowning
I once lived at a place in the USA (not in the "South") where there was a giant, upright, freestanding, concrete cross on the hill overlooking the town. The concrete one replaced an earlier wooden one and, although it was never openly discussed, it was widely known that the wooden monument was originally put up (during the Jim Crow era) to replicate crosses burned by the KKK on that spot in earlier years. Like Minden, NV, this place used to be a "sundown town" and its history includes a lot of other shameful racist elements too. Eventually, the City (which owned the monument and the land it sat on) lost a lawsuit due to the cross being viewed as, in effect, an endorsement of one religion, excluding others, and, therefore, unconstitutional since it was publicly owned. The craziest part is that the City then simply declared the cross to be a veterans' memorial and it no longer had to be removed. smh
It sounds like a bomb siren. Look, the ordinance is gone, it's not a sundown town anymore. Now it's just a tradition to run the siren. Most people don't even have a clue about the sundown past and make zero connection to it.
Theres a pattern with everybody agreeing with the siren
"Its for history its a tribute its a good thing"
A whole a bunch of bullshit is what it sounds like
So does this mean this town can’t even have a tornado siren? These people want themselves dead if so.
I know this is a fire siren.
Ah yes tornadoes in Nevada
Put up a larger horn and play it six times a day at random times every day as tribute to the native American people.
A Siren cannot be racist. It does not hold grudges or form opinions. It is a machine that does not think. It knows only to scream.
And scream it shall...
@kellykel4472 it doesn't really represent anything ill intentioned anymore. It's one of thousands of sirens still used by fire departments to both warn firemen of a disaster, and pay tribute to those who have sacrificed themselves for the well being of others
@@kellykel4472 It's frustrating when you're forced to explain the obvious to someone, isn't it? Even more so because it's almost always an exercise in futility (sadly, there's rarely a 'cure' for willful ignorance and/or denial). I empathize with you.
@@mugwump242 Sipex knows what hes talkinga about. theres no need for a explanation
a siren is a object, it does not have feelings or emotions. the fire dept supplies power to the motor and the chopper spins.
like Sipex said, that was Years, years ago. it does not represent anything bad anymore.
@@thatsirenenthusiastI hate that argument because you could literally apply it to anything controversial. The confederate flag, nazi symbol etc etc
It was used for something bad in the past. To try and repurpose it today would be in bad taste.
@@samoedo it doesn't matter, if it's used as a warning device it can't change anything not bothered to argue rn, I made this cmnt 10 months ago
This siren is a beautiful Example of what it should be, not a racist siren, but a town symbol. Recorded this back in August and it sounds amazing
A town symbol rooted in racism. How can you find that beautiful?
@@MoyaBrennan6825 This siren may have a racist past but is no longer racist. I am a siren enthusiast and I'm not saying this siren is beautiful because its past, but I'm saying its a beautiful example of the rare type of siren it is. I'm totally against racism and I hate the fact this siren has a racist past.
@@marioncountysirens5290 What exactly makes it no longer racist?
@@MoyaBrennan6825 Just even apart from the history of racism, what a sad-ass and unimaginative tradition! Couldn't they come up with something interesting and pleasing to hear, like bells or a carillon?
Sirens make a hideous racket, by design, and they are not supposed to be used for frivolous non-emergency things. The last thing you want for an emergency siren if for people to hear it so often that they become used to it or have to wonder every time if this is the "real deal".
@@kenofken9458 I disagree. I think bells are lame, but I love the sound of air raid sirens.