With this excellent lecture and demonstration of tarp principles you have given us multiple ways to setup. Tensioning is important. Guidelines at each tie out, rather than staking directly to the tarp, allows ways to balance tension and gives much more room inside. Site selection is more important for a tarp than a tent. Tarp set up forces the user to think ahead, site selection, pole height, stake locations and guidelines angles…. Thank you from East Tennessee.
Thank you. The discussions about tensioning principals and sequencing are unique contributions that go far beyond what other guides cover. You are the master.
Great Job, Papa Hiker! You are the real master of Tarp pitching. I have learned so much about it in the last years with your help. Keep on the good work for the hiker community!
Thanks Papa 🙂. These sorts of things are never covered to any great depth in other videos. They seem to be do this, did this and go to sleep. An explanation of why we need to do things as well as how to do them has been long overdue! So helpful
Excellent! This is fundamental knowhow and very helpful for pitching. If I am in a hurry I sometimes forget these principles and try to construct some triangles at once. As you show in a very clear way the result may be awful. And the material of the tarp itself will last much longer when forces an stresses are in a proper balance. Thank you Papa Hiker and crawl your lovely dog.
Hi Reinaldi, jeah, the birds are awesome! I was debating to talk about them but decided not to in the video, but, there is one high screeching sound you can hear that is made by a couple of buzzards. I'm hoping that they nest in one of the trees here this year. A risk to the chickens, but fun to watch :-)
Thank you so much for the time you put in to make these videos. I’m going out for my 1st tarp camp tonight with a DD Solo tarp and your videos have taught me a lot! 🙏
Love the channel Papa hiker and I am so glad you did a lesson #2 in this serie. I want to bring an idea to your attention. Not from me, but found it on RUclips [1], together with a page [2] explaining the use of a "self-equalizing anchor". The idea is that a self-equalizing anchor can spread the stress out over your grommets instead of putting it all on the corner grommet. My thoughts are that redirecting all force to one stake means you are putting all the stress the tarp takes from the wind to that one stake. I would rather go with more stakes to offload the stress the tarp endures to multiple end points (read stakes). So I do not see the benefit of such a self-equalizing anchor, but I might be overlooking something here. I am interested to hear your opinions and/or experiences even on the use of a self-equalizing anchor and how it handles stress from high winds. [1] ruclips.net/video/7E-r23PAKV0/видео.html [2] survivalcommonsense.com/pitch-a-tarp-to-survive-in-heavy-winds/
Have you read about the *Alpha Tent?* Any tarp that is not over 3x3 meters can be used, square or rectangular. The poles should be 8% longer than the diagonal on the tarp.
You can use the marble and clove hitch method. Then tie that to trees if you have no lifting tabs spread out over the place. It does put more pressure on the outer edges of the bound marble which can tear in a weak tarp, or get torn in a strong gust. You can also get non damaging tarp clips but they do not work as well in the middles as they do on the sides. If it wasn't windy you could use a magnet on the inside tagged to a magnet tied to a tree. But if the wind picks up you'll end up with a bump on your head when it flies off. lol
He's not a fan of ridgelines or overhead lifts. But as long as the lifting force is applied to the same point a pole would go, and the lifting force isn't on an angle, then it's essentially set up the same way. In the heavily-forested areas around here, ridgelines and lifting tie-outs can be done almost anywhere and I do like not having a pole inside.
I have a question. (maybe a prompt for a video?) To what extent do your shaping techniques and favorite pitches need the tarp to be silnylon? Silpoly is now looking like a good alternative in many ways (no water absorption), and of course some like DCF tarps for the weight and other advantages. But these don't stretch like silnylon. This is potentially also an advantage (no tightening in the middle of a rainy night), but lots of your pitches look like they do make pretty good use of the elasticity of silnylon. How happy would you be if you switched over to silpoly? How much would you have to change your technique? What would you lose, what might you gain?
Hi Scot, after your comment I have been looking into silpoly. I think the non-stretchy character could be a benefit for many pitches (hopefully the lengthwise pyramid, that would be great), but would make some pitches impossible. Some practice testing would really help though. I will try to get a silpoly tarp somewhere and give it a shot! Have a great time, papa hiker
Nice video, my friend! And very cozy camp and shelter! Enjoying watching it a lot! Good luck in your adventures! By the way, welcome to my channel in which I sharesome Russian survival skills. Best wishes, Yuriy!
What do you think of the Mors Kochanski super shelter? Is there a way you would modify it to go with a particular tarp pitch? What are your thoughts? Also, what would you do in an emergency situation if all you had was a 4x6 tarp?
Hello Andrew, have you watched the first video of the tarp work shop? The link is in the description. I think that would answer your question but otherwise let me know.
Papa I desperately want to start using a tarp. Watched lots of your tutorials. But I am unsure. If I was in a situation of strong winds, would I peg the tarp directly to the ground to stop wind getting under it and using the tarp like a sail. Or would I still use the lines so the tarp edges were not touching the ground. Thanks 🔥
Hey Kenneth, personally, I like to always float the shelter in the air, also in very strong wind. If the wind comes from one side then I will sometimes pile natural materials on that side of the tarp at the edge. That means less wind in your shelter, but still enough air flow to keep the moisture under control. What you can do, and that is also totally fine, is stake the windward side directly to the ground and float the other edges using tie-outs. That is not ideal for pressure distribution mind you, but I understand that some people feel they just want that wind side closed. Will only really work if the ground is level enough. Good luck! Papa hiker
@@papahiker9014 thanks for that. But if in open mountain area would you use one of your pyramid configurations. And would they be flush with the ground. Really appreciate your time. Many thanks 🔥
With this excellent lecture and demonstration of tarp principles you have given us multiple ways to setup. Tensioning is important. Guidelines at each tie out, rather than staking directly to the tarp, allows ways to balance tension and gives much more room inside. Site selection is more important for a tarp than a tent. Tarp set up forces the user to think ahead, site selection, pole height, stake locations and guidelines angles…. Thank you from East Tennessee.
Thank you. The discussions about tensioning principals and sequencing are unique contributions that go far beyond what other guides cover. You are the master.
Papa Hiker- Tarp Genius!
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Papa Hiker, your videos are useful to people all over the world. *Bravo*
Great Job, Papa Hiker!
You are the real master of Tarp pitching. I have learned so much about it in the last years with your help. Keep on the good work for the hiker community!
Thanks Papa 🙂. These sorts of things are never covered to any great depth in other videos. They seem to be do this, did this and go to sleep. An explanation of why we need to do things as well as how to do them has been long overdue! So helpful
This is a master class! You are Mister Tarp. Thank you!
Thank you papawhisky!
Excellent! This is fundamental knowhow and very helpful for pitching. If I am in a hurry I sometimes forget these principles and try to construct some triangles at once. As you show in a very clear way the result may be awful. And the material of the tarp itself will last much longer when forces an stresses are in a proper balance. Thank you Papa Hiker and crawl your lovely dog.
I always learn something new in your vids. Thank you, great content as usual!
Great advice. You might consider teaching about pitches that use a ridgeline or a line to a tree branch with no poles.
Thanks for a great demonstration.
Great content as always. Also, love those chirping birds sound effect 😄
Hi Reinaldi, jeah, the birds are awesome! I was debating to talk about them but decided not to in the video, but, there is one high screeching sound you can hear that is made by a couple of buzzards. I'm hoping that they nest in one of the trees here this year. A risk to the chickens, but fun to watch :-)
Thank you Papa Hiker!
So much good information. I'll be watching this one multiple times over the years.
All the best, Scott
Good tips , thanks for sharing , God bless !
Thank you so much for the time you put in to make these videos. I’m going out for my 1st tarp camp tonight with a DD Solo tarp and your videos have taught me a lot! 🙏
Really enjoyed this video. Very informative
Best video yet!
Well thought-out and well explained, this will help a lot of people better understand how to use a tarp.
Well done!👍. Always learn lots from your videos.
That’s very useful. Thanks 🙏
Great content. Thank you!
Good stuff. Thank you for sharing!
Great video, PapaHiker. Thank you for sharing your knowledge with us. Learn a bunch from every one of your videos I watch.
Thank you for sharing your knowledge, I learn so many new wonderful things from your videos every time you post a new video.
Thank you very much George!
thank you for the tips
Super videos, bedankt!
Love the channel Papa hiker and I am so glad you did a lesson #2 in this serie.
I want to bring an idea to your attention. Not from me, but found it on RUclips [1], together with a page [2] explaining the use of a "self-equalizing anchor".
The idea is that a self-equalizing anchor can spread the stress out over your grommets instead of putting it all on the corner grommet.
My thoughts are that redirecting all force to one stake means you are putting all the stress the tarp takes from the wind to that one stake. I would rather go with more stakes to offload the stress the tarp endures to multiple end points (read stakes).
So I do not see the benefit of such a self-equalizing anchor, but I might be overlooking something here. I am interested to hear your opinions and/or experiences even on the use of a self-equalizing anchor and how it handles stress from high winds.
[1] ruclips.net/video/7E-r23PAKV0/видео.html
[2] survivalcommonsense.com/pitch-a-tarp-to-survive-in-heavy-winds/
great stuff thanks
Many Thanks !!!!
Great video. Thanks!
thanks!
Good thing your dog saved you from that body bag tent :D
Awesome! Content that I can’t find anywhere else.
Thanks Fayley!
I really need to practice
Body Bag With Happy Dog is my new favorite tarp pitch!
Hi James, well, if someone ever ends up in a body bag a happy dog sure lightens the mood :-)))
I would like to see a video on how to use tarp tents (strong hexamid etc) with no tracking pole or stick on inside. How to do guidelines on top of it.
Have you read about the *Alpha Tent?* Any tarp that is not over 3x3 meters can be used, square or rectangular.
The poles should be 8% longer than the diagonal on the tarp.
You can use the marble and clove hitch method. Then tie that to trees if you have no lifting tabs spread out over the place. It does put more pressure on the outer edges of the bound marble which can tear in a weak tarp, or get torn in a strong gust.
You can also get non damaging tarp clips but they do not work as well in the middles as they do on the sides.
If it wasn't windy you could use a magnet on the inside tagged to a magnet tied to a tree. But if the wind picks up you'll end up with a bump on your head when it flies off. lol
He's not a fan of ridgelines or overhead lifts. But as long as the lifting force is applied to the same point a pole would go, and the lifting force isn't on an angle, then it's essentially set up the same way. In the heavily-forested areas around here, ridgelines and lifting tie-outs can be done almost anywhere and I do like not having a pole inside.
@@P_RO_ Nor me, I would make up a bi pod or even a tripod just to avoid an internal pole myself.
@@P_RO_ I did that on a ridgeline yesterday and it worked completely fine :)
Have you ever listed your tarp kit ?
How many guy lines and how long are they what is the minimum amount of pegs to carry
Thanks
I have a question. (maybe a prompt for a video?) To what extent do your shaping techniques and favorite pitches need the tarp to be silnylon? Silpoly is now looking like a good alternative in many ways (no water absorption), and of course some like DCF tarps for the weight and other advantages. But these don't stretch like silnylon. This is potentially also an advantage (no tightening in the middle of a rainy night), but lots of your pitches look like they do make pretty good use of the elasticity of silnylon. How happy would you be if you switched over to silpoly? How much would you have to change your technique? What would you lose, what might you gain?
Hi Scot,
after your comment I have been looking into silpoly. I think the non-stretchy character could be a benefit for many pitches (hopefully the lengthwise pyramid, that would be great), but would make some pitches impossible. Some practice testing would really help though. I will try to get a silpoly tarp somewhere and give it a shot! Have a great time, papa hiker
Nice video, my friend! And very cozy camp and shelter! Enjoying watching it a lot! Good luck in your adventures! By the way, welcome to my channel in which I sharesome Russian survival skills. Best wishes, Yuriy!
Thanks Yuriy!
Looking for #3
What do you think of the Mors Kochanski super shelter? Is there a way you would modify it to go with a particular tarp pitch? What are your thoughts? Also, what would you do in an emergency situation if all you had was a 4x6 tarp?
does anyone know what size tarp @Papahiker is using in this vid?
Can you explain the tension system you use for the guylines on your stakes? How do they attach to the tarp tie outs?
Hello Andrew, have you watched the first video of the tarp work shop? The link is in the description. I think that would answer your question but otherwise let me know.
Papa
I desperately want to start using a tarp. Watched lots of your tutorials.
But I am unsure.
If I was in a situation of strong winds, would I peg the tarp directly to the ground to stop wind getting under it and using the tarp like a sail.
Or would I still use the lines so the tarp edges were not touching the ground.
Thanks 🔥
Hey Kenneth, personally, I like to always float the shelter in the air, also in very strong wind. If the wind comes from one side then I will sometimes pile natural materials on that side of the tarp at the edge. That means less wind in your shelter, but still enough air flow to keep the moisture under control. What you can do, and that is also totally fine, is stake the windward side directly to the ground and float the other edges using tie-outs. That is not ideal for pressure distribution mind you, but I understand that some people feel they just want that wind side closed. Will only really work if the ground is level enough.
Good luck! Papa hiker
@@papahiker9014 thanks for that. But if in open mountain area would you use one of your pyramid configurations. And would they be flush with the ground. Really appreciate your time. Many thanks 🔥
Yes, tarping is a sience and papahiker is the grandmaster...
But quantum?
:-) It is a Terry Pratchett reference
@@papahiker9014 hmm i didn't know that, nice one!
Tip # 1 - make sure the dog fits.....