Tire talk | Michelin Commander 2 and Shinko 777
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- Опубликовано: 10 сен 2024
- A little tire talk. I talk about my experience with the shinko 777 front and rear, and the Michelin Commander 2 rear tire.
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Thanks , Got the shinko 777 in front (love it) and about to put the michelin comander II on rear, so this vid came pretty helpful. Dunlop 404 only lasted like 4 months about 5 to 6000 miles no bueno! on my 03 shadow spirit 750. Looking forward for the durability and performance of the commander II. Peace!
Commander 2's are great tires,I have 13k on the rear tire. Still 4k more miles left, and just changed front.
Nice. I saw approx 21k out of these. I'd have to check my notes but I'm sure I got that # or 22k.
I heard the Shinkos should be softer on the bumps of the road. Is that right?
yes , much better ride ,
lasts as long or longer also , i love the 777HD tire, had them on a concours 1400 , vulcan 1600 and now an 07 Harley touring
Finding a good tire that lasts and ride quality is good making riding great.
Some of them can be hit or miss.
There are also trade offs at times.
Some are at more of a premium than others too.
You bet!
im 3 months on savage 650.. shinko 777 .. not the hd- ... really good road tire- 15or 20 mph on 1 mile dirt road i live= skechy... great on pavement and smooth /sticky on sides were neeeded - i do like rip through the twistys.. it hugs like a fat woman ..mmm mmm .
Thanks men. Nice vídeo
Thanks
I appreciate the thourough review!
Your welcome
Good tire info. Great thing about tire wear is your always want to be out there wearing on them! 😎👍
Yes very true
I had a car tire on my bike for a while. Served me well on the freeways in Southern California. Now that I live on an island I'm going to have to switch back to an MC tire. Leaning towards the Shinko.
I like the look of tbe commander 3 touring. I may put that in the rear next .
The shonko rear I had lasted 6k. I got 13K out of the front. I had to change it due to some dry rot cracking. It had a few mms left to the wear bars.
@@dbest1aVlogs G'Day from rural South Australia, I have had 23 rear tyres in 15 years on my HD Softails with 200 x 55 x17 rear, I like the Metzeler 888 front 21 as it seems to last better than others I have tried, I curantly have my 3rd Michelin Commander 3 on the rear & average around 15.000 km's at the most & I do not ride aggressively, I am too old for that now, thanks for your comparrision information, I think I will try Shinko
Did you try the shinko? Did it last?
My cruiser came with Bridgestone Exedra tires. I replaced them with the same tire, as I was impressed with them and got 22,000 miles out of them. Be safe bro.
Wow, that's impressive.
I had exedras too. Replaced them due to age, not wear. Put on shinko 777s and it's a big difference. The shinkos are more round making the bike more flickable and the softer sidewall makes for a comfortable ride. So far so good. I'll see how they wear
How fo they hold up then?
I have 170/80/15 commander II on my 2006 Honda vtx 1300c and I’m just changed it out it has 18000 miles on it and bought another one love the Michelin tires
Glad they are working for you. The are a nice durable tire.
same here just bought another set for my S love my vtx best bike I owned
What PSI you run?
One other option, in 2023, for budget rubbers on a heavy cruiser/tourer, the Shinko SE890's seem to be a reliable tire for the money, and sticky when their warm.
Yea. But no front tire option to match for this bike. I just got Metzler cruise techs in the mail. My commander 2s rear just lasted about 18k. Front commander 3 about 7k . The shinko 777 in the video rear approximately 6k @ $90 at time of the video. They cost more now.
I just went all shinko now days. Yeah the rear is soft but for the price your getting your money's worth if you do your own tires. Much love stay safe
Yea ..n they grip too.. i only got 6k out of it though. But it wasa sticky fun tire.
Now just need a damn good shock for the rear n i think ita time for new fork fluid.
@@dbest1aVlogs yeah I'm dreading doing the steering bearings. Might as well just do the whole front end. You did progressive on your rear rite?
I did progressive, but shock got a spec of dirt in the seal and it leaked oil out. I rebuilt it, but thought it justdidntfeel the same. So now I use the spring on a stock shock. Which is ok. I think tbe compression is a little low
I'm a bit spoiled by the progressive though it was a good shock. Progressive was going to replace it b but they saw the reciept and said they never made a shock for the1300.....
So they refused to warranty it.
I took it apart and rebuilt it. It held air and oil fine too. But back to a stocker with progressive spring right now
I found one Michelin Comander 2 for front and I put a Dunlop American Elite on the rear. I was told that mix match tires would be almost dangerous to ride, NOT TO DO THIS, by motorcycle dealers mechanics. WHAT A BOUNCH OF BULLSHITERS...My Thunderbird Storm rides like never before ! The Dunlop is smoother than a Comander 3 . The bike lean in a curbe like if it was on a track, with no effort. It is feels more secure to manurve , even on verry slow trafic ridding two up.
Awesome. Yea I've done mismatched a few times. Currently on 2 same Metzler cruise tecs
You're over inflating your tires. The sidewall gives you a maximum, not recommended! 33-35 front and back is where you wanna be at. You're minimizing your contact patch with the road and also why your squaring off that rear.
I have a Commander II on the front of my V Star 1300, and can't wait to get rid of it. Feels about as responsive as wood and it's terrible in the rain. Gonna' replace it with a Cobra Chrome rear tire mounted backwards. Chrome has a three-zone compound, so should give okay mileage while sticking well when I'm scraping boards...
Never heard of that brand before. I never had a slip with either c2, and I think it was good in the rain. At that time I had the stock springs up front. I do know they did not cradling like tar snakes, especially in the wet
How did you get along with your reversed Cobra Chrome?
Hey nice review. I think my next set will be Commander II's. For me it's about long tread life. I have used Michelin Scorcher and Dunlop American Elite, and by 12K or so they are about done.
They are a nice tire with decent longevity. I just wish they made our taller size.
Those leaves crawling around like crabs.... I'm trying to learn about the tire and I'm all like... "Leaf Crabs!"
Lololol. First I've ever heard of that.
I just took 2 Shinkos 777HD off a softail with 9K+ I think i could have got 10K easily Had Dunlop 401s didnt care for em . Shinko is my go to . There is good and bad in most everything . Keep the shiny side up
Yes, your soft tail is about similar weight to my 1300. But I'm sure u have more tq. There is deer a trade of indeed.
G'Day, I am on my 3rd Commander 3 & I am averaging 15,000 km's at the very most, 23 rear tyres in 15 years & its becoming expensive at $450 for a new rear Commander 3 in rural South Australia ATM May 2022, I like the Metezla 888 21inch on the front, I don't ride aggressively either & our roads are shit , might go for Shinko next
Yea the mileage on the c2 isn't bad. The price for the c3 is stupid though. I just don't get why they want so much more than the c2. The c3 touring front I have on now sucks. I'm not buying another one either.
I can't use bias-ply tires on the Victory, they completely mess up the handling. I used to run Avon Cobras and loved them, but after Avon d\c'd the Cobra for the Cobra Chrome and doubled the price I went to Shinko SE890 Journeys. I'm shocked but find these Shinkos to be a better tire. The Journeys stick just as well as the Cobras(and that's saying a lot) but hold their "roundness" much better and are FAR out-wearing the Avons.
The reviews on that tire have been very good.
I’m running a Shinko 777 on the rear of my cross country tour. I love it.
I just got the shinko 777s for my 09 vstar 1300. I don't put many miles on my bike at all, maybe 500-1000 miles a year, so I wanted a tire that grips really well here in Colorado so they seemed the best choice. Guess we will see haha Coming from the stock tire.
The 777 (rear) I had last 6k . Handled great if you dont do much miles they aren't a bad option.
@dbest1aVlogs 6k is clearly not a lot...Sounds like they are soft. Did they at least felt giod on the bumps of the road then?
@@larifari4371 they are great sticky tires. They handle the bumps well. Don't last long but grip like hell
Great review. Just picked up an 07 1300 and the front tire is pretty worn. Tread wise it's probably ok for a while longer, but the guy bought the bike in 2016 and said he hadn't changed the front since he bought it, so I'm more concerned about dry rot.
I always put Mich Power Commanders on my CBR600 back in the day, and the Commander II's seem to basically just be their cruiser version of that tire. But I also didn't want to drop $180 on a tire right after buying the bike, especially since I also have to get some gear again since I haven't had a bike in 7-8 years.
Think I might just go Shinko front, then do the Commander II on back whenever I need it in the next year or so.
That’s not a bad combo. Been there.
Shinko front should last over 10k to 12k.
C2 rear about 22k.
Dry rot is not good.
C2 rear and metzler 888 front is a nice riding combo. Really liked that
I have the same tire on a Honda goldwing I run 32 front and 34 rear, my owners manual says go by the tire pressure off of the frame, you might what to check that out, you get better traction with a bit lower psi. Just my thought.. stay safe..
Our vstar1300 frame is 36/41rear.
I have varied from this.. say... 34/40.. not much difference. So I've just stayed with the 36/41 which has been pretty good. I've never tried lower than 40 out back.
Our bikes with about 750 dry (deluxe model) ..
Thanks for watching, ride safe out there
Great review on the different tire's brother,as much as I've ridden I think if a person gets 12 to 15k out of the rear tires, that's actually pretty good, and front tires I've gotten 20 to 28k and a lot of it depends on how the bike is being ridden to, especially on the rear tire, good review brother, keep up the good work brother 💯✌️😎
Very true. 6500 on the shinko777 rear seemed low, but at the same time the tire performed really well. I would have been happy if it could have gotten to 10k at least.
@@dbest1aVlogs back in 07 I bought a new Ultra Classic and it didn't matter what brand of tire I used all I could get was 5,500 miles on the rear, the dealership said there was a lot of people complaining about that, I put 29k on the bike and then sold it, it's not fun spending all that money on a rear tire and only getting 5k on them,
I wonder why that was, maybe an alignment issue of some sort, or weight balance.
@@dbest1aVlogs the dealership told me it was because it was the first year that they came out with the 96ci and the six speed transmission, but I don't think so 💯✌️😎
28 k? Wow!!! But you are not talking about a bicylcle, are you?
comparisions my 50/50 vs the 80/20's. I bet yours are 90/10's.
Lol. Do you ride any dirt?
@@dbest1aVlogs Not anymore since the brain stroke.
My command II front tire developed bugling after 15k miles. I thought I was going to get 30K out of it. My rear C2 is still running well. I might replace it with C3.
Interesting that you got bulging , but glad you caught it and replaced it. Sometimes a new set of rubber every 7 to 10k is not a bad thing. Just the dealers charge a lot to do the swap , that's the killer.
@@dbest1aVlogs The strange part was the front tire bulging and I will try ME888 next.
Just ordered shinkos for my 950. Just bought a 1300 royal star not sure what im putting on it yet.
Interesting. I like the front, but the rear didn't last much at all. 6500 miles . It handled good though, carcas was a little soft too. I maybe could have gotten another 200 out of it... just didnt bother.
I hope they work out for you.
04 VTX 1300s got about 400 miles on Shinko 777 reflective side-wall series front and back. love them. Tar snakes mean nothing. Can drag floorboards with total confidence. Decided grip was more important than total miles plus u can almost buy 2 for the price of some competitors.
Keep the shinny side up.✌️
@@fuckgoogle8857 I am the same way I want good grip and ride over longevity.
Only have about 3,000 on the shinkos I put on the 950 look like new. I have about 8,000 miles on the shinkos on my royal star. I think I'll get 10,000 on the rear. I have a new one waiting to put on
@@MrShad73 that's good man. I'm really thinking about getting the shinkos for the rear I only got 8k or of the 888 metzlers. If you get 10k I
Switching.
I have the exact same model as yours. I am still on the stock Bridgestone Exedra 170/70-16. It has lasted 8500 miles. Anything less than 10k miles for a tire is a shame. I was interested in the Michelin Commander 3, but I don't think they make the size. After watching your video I don't want to try a Shinko or Bridgestone. The same thing with Dunlop doesn't seem to have good reviews. Since they don't really last 10k miles. That leaves me with Metzeler or Avon Cobra Chrome (good reviews on Revzilla.) Any experience with either Metzeler or Avon Cobra?
I tried a 888 up front once .. it was ok. Many run the c2 or c3 in a 180/65/16. The 170/70 is in slim pickings. I imagine the c3 would be just as good mileage wise . Best of luck with your choice
the reason for the low mileage on tires is performance. i have always used Dunlops because i have used them in all weather conditions and they perform amazing in rain but unfortunately you only get about 7k miles out of them. i just bought the commander 2 for rear cuz its all they had in my size......starting to reconsider mounting it
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Thanks for your review, I’m trying to decide between tires, Avon, shinko 777, and meltzler 888 (whitewalls). I ride about 50 miles a day commuting to work. I’ll probably have to buy tires more often if I go shinko but I like the price. Decisions decisions. 02 Yamaha Road Star Silverado 1600.
I got 6k out of the rear . The front is still going at about 8k+ I did do an update video on it, and will do another video when I pull the tire off.
I've gone back to Michelin's. NEVER EVER to the Shinko's again. They suck. Some issues with my TKC-80's, But Shinko's suck worse. shit canned the Dunlops from the dealer BMW tires. NEVER EVER.
I know some of them are hit and miss. I guess it depends. These shinkos have been great, and rotate very well.