No if you read the comics you will see that Vader goes in the dark dimension and he solos every single Jedi and kills palpatine with RED force lightning which only the son can use that is full potential vader
So Vader should win this one technically and plus if vader had ever reached that Dark dimension vader form then the whole star wars franchise would have been different and plus if vader did reach that form then who would dare to challenge him like Obi-Wan Kenobi that is negative diff so technically if it was luke who is pre exile then luke would lose even if luke were to reach his full potential he would still lose.
@@Shigaraki19875 not really cuz that Vader was not dd Vader and it was the rogue one vader, he is powerful in rogue one but he wouldn’t be able to keep up with anakins fast strikes as he is in a big black metal refrigerator.
no its the exact opposite the suit made him slow also if he didn’t get the suit he could shoot lightning and there is way more he could definitely beat like 10 jedi without struggling if he never got burned do your research man
@@Mrdoge1 The suit made him slow, but it was painfull to wear. This pain is what fuels his connection to the darkside. The burns and the surgery to save his life also fuels this connection. Maybe you got some research to do too.
@@uselesshero.officialnah Disney luke lacks his impressive feats from George Lucas era and retcons most of his stuff and reduces him to a pitiful state. Pre exile luke was unable to keep kylo ren from wiping out his jedi order lmao
@@fiercehook oh then then all of them should be no diff rotj palps could no diff all of them and if this is rotj vader if he never got the injuries then he would dog walk all of them. Except pe like he is more like low-mid diff. Because remember rotj vader if he never got the burns would basically be a living god. (He would also get defense from kenobi hehehe)
Stop at Dooku, he can’t beat him without Obi Wan. Dooku win High Diff, Obi Wan literally beat his ass, Obi Wan win Med-High Diff, Vader is stronger that Anakin on Mustafar, Vader win Med Diff, Luke>Vader High Diff, so Luke win with Anakin with Low-Med Diff
dafaq are you saying rofl Anakin killed Dooku alone, without Obi-Wan, and it wasn't even hard. Obi-Wan didn't beat Vader, Vader beats himself casue he was too arrogant. Vader is not stronger than Anakin, maybe more experience. Anakin > Luke, by far, specially if we considering fg Anakin from Ahsoka's serie
people correlate the suit as vader but they're wrong, the anakin who killed the people in the temple and fought obiwan was vader that time and the vader during his second fight with Luke was actually anakin irrespective of the vader suit
Vader can use force lightning it literally said in one of the Star Wars books that he used Red force sith lightning but didn't ever use it again because it damaged him so yes he can use it
Suit vader is more powerful than his younger counterpart un canon, but he lose much of his force potential,besides older vader had to master all lightsaber forns
Aggressive dueling is just how aggressive you are it has nothing to do with speed or technique, however offensive dueling is how good you are at dueling overall offensively which includes speed and skill
Люк гораздо сильнее Энакина в первую очередь в моральном плане( посмотрите на Энакина в 23 года и на Люка в 23 года и почувствуйте разницу) и те кто говорят, что Энакин сильнее, нет нифига подобного. Люк полностью раскрыл свой потенциал, а главное Люк Скайуокер не только самый сильный джедай в истории галактики но и морально гораздо более устойчив чем его отец в таком же возрасте ( говорю как фанат Энакина). Энакин бы победил если бы полностью раскрыл свой потенциал, но этого не произошло. К сожалению а может и к счастью, потому что мы увидели идеального антагониста в истории кинематографа.
No No No Энакин в 22 сильнейший джедай из существующих на то время. Энакин сильнее, потому что Люк просто сильный джедай. В то время как Энакин божество Силы. Он сын Силы и внук Всесоздателя. Энакин на пике вышел за авторство и стал сильнее кого-либо в ЗВ. Люк даже в топ-20 зв не войдет. Люк сильнейший среди джедаев, если Энакина в расчёт не брать. Энакин на другом уровне. Боги Силы говорили, что Энакин выше этого. Что он не просто джедай или ситх. В этом вся разница. Люк не сильнее в 23 в моральном плане. Совсем нет. Сидиус работал над Энакином с 9 лет. Для Люка же это был просто нн дядька, который сказал убить отца. Разницу чухаешь? К тебе мужик подойдёт и говорит убить отца. Или же для Энакина это был близкий друг, который говорит убить его заклятого врага. И Вейдер манипулировал Люком, что показывало их схожесть. Только Энакин и Вейдер подвержены сюжеты, что автор говорил. Вейдер был создан раньше Энакина. Поэтому Энакина слили. А есть другая каноничная версия, где Энакин становится Императором Вейдером. (каноничная по словам автора. Он лично делал этот сюжет). И это сильнейшая версия Вейдера. Но про неё клоуны не знают.
Vader deletes everyone no diff. Anakin wins extreme diff, Vader wins against Luke mid diff. Also technique, dueling, skill and a couple others go to Vader not Luke
Technically yes, but no. This would be like rotj Vader but with no burns or suit limiting his full potential. So this is basically full potential dark side Anakin
Bro Nah. Cap. BRUH Vader No Suit Prime = Emperor Vader You said this is Anakin beat Obi wan in Mustafar It is Emperor Vader Emperor Vader negs all jedi or sith because Emperor Vader scaling > Force God in top 8-20
@@mrpcakes216 In this video its said that is Vader if he never lose to obi wan (FP Vader) so in this case he low diffs both Suited Vader and pre exile luke
First off he can’t really beat Dooku until he got dark side powers because it was a very close fight and Dooku was holding back because Palpatine told him, then we saw Anakin try his very best against Obi Wan on Mustafar and still lose, so KFV loses to ROTS Kenobi, Prime Vader, and Luke Skywalkrt
So this is a basically Full potential Vader/Anakin if he never got burns?
Yes
@@fiercehook well he comfortably gives Pre Exile Luke a beat down
No if you read the comics you will see that Vader goes in the dark dimension and he solos every single Jedi and kills palpatine with RED force lightning which only the son can use that is full potential vader
So Vader should win this one technically and plus if vader had ever reached that Dark dimension vader form then the whole star wars franchise would have been different and plus if vader did reach that form then who would dare to challenge him like Obi-Wan Kenobi that is negative diff so technically if it was luke who is pre exile then luke would lose even if luke were to reach his full potential he would still lose.
@@Shigaraki19875 not really cuz that Vader was not dd Vader and it was the rogue one vader, he is powerful in rogue one but he wouldn’t be able to keep up with anakins fast strikes as he is in a big black metal refrigerator.
The suffering from the suit and the burns is what gave Vader strenght.
no its the exact opposite the suit made him slow also if he didn’t get the suit he could shoot lightning and there is way more he could definitely beat like 10 jedi without struggling if he never got burned do your research man
@@Mrdoge1 The suit made him slow, but it was painfull to wear. This pain is what fuels his connection to the darkside. The burns and the surgery to save his life also fuels this connection. Maybe you got some research to do too.
@@strykerror2719yes they fueled his connection to darkside but if he reached his full potential that pain would be unnecessary.
@@tvvistedv3nom26 Yeah, Vader is nothing compared to his full potential version, but he can beat his former self easily.
@@strykerror2719 yeah
Great video! 📹 👍🏼 But Darth Vader is far more powerful than Anakin, Canon and Legends...
This is darth vader if he never injured and got a suit not anakin
You really underestimated Dooku
Vader fighting against himself 😂
Darth vader without a suit goes hard
w video, however anakin beats luke
Prime Luke still eats Anakin though.
Idk man it seems too far fetched to have Luke win
Anakin fan boy Luke negs 😂
@@uselesshero.officialnah Disney luke lacks his impressive feats from George Lucas era and retcons most of his stuff and reduces him to a pitiful state. Pre exile luke was unable to keep kylo ren from wiping out his jedi order lmao
@@editFictionthis is also supposed to be Vader if he never got burned in which case he obliterates any version of canon luke
W video someone who actually knows the power of knightfall vader but how you gonna give overall dueling to obi wan
This isn't knighfall vader
@@fiercehook then who tf is he. Pretty sure he said knightfall vader (no suit)
@@mariosbolanos9201 nope
I said vader with no suit and put messages on the bottom left that it is vader if he never got burnt or injured
@@fiercehook oh then then all of them should be no diff rotj palps could no diff all of them and if this is rotj vader if he never got the injuries then he would dog walk all of them. Except pe like he is more like low-mid diff. Because remember rotj vader if he never got the burns would basically be a living god.
(He would also get defense from kenobi hehehe)
@@fiercehook I know this song, but don't know where to find it...
Stop at Dooku, he can’t beat him without Obi Wan. Dooku win High Diff, Obi Wan literally beat his ass, Obi Wan win Med-High Diff, Vader is stronger that Anakin on Mustafar, Vader win Med Diff, Luke>Vader High Diff, so Luke win with Anakin with Low-Med Diff
dafaq are you saying rofl
Anakin killed Dooku alone, without Obi-Wan, and it wasn't even hard.
Obi-Wan didn't beat Vader, Vader beats himself casue he was too arrogant.
Vader is not stronger than Anakin, maybe more experience.
Anakin > Luke, by far, specially if we considering fg Anakin from Ahsoka's serie
Vader without suit and burns is basically anakin full potential so he negs everyone there
Everything is right I think except for the last part: Anakin without suit aka full potential would clap Luke.
Knightfall vader without conflict kill everyone and reach full potential (only half of it is the dark side of the force)
Not Yoda or Palpatine.
@@uselesshero.official Knightfall vader > Yoda + Palpatine
@@onixgg775 lol Both Yoda and Palpy beats KFV high difficulty.
@@uselesshero.officialLol. GL said KFV > Yoda +Sidious
Cry
@@Иммортал-с1в no you cry... KFV is an overrated meme.
Vador >>>>anakin version
ANAKIN>LUKE
cap and not cap at the same time
@@xyron2477Luke slams darth vader not Anakin
@@Manlikesedits1 Anakin as Darth Vader is more poweful than Anakin without suit ever was
@@xyron2477 true but if it’s a scenario where Anakin beat obi wan and never needed his suit the Anakin wins
@@Manlikesedits1 thats true
people correlate the suit as vader but they're wrong, the anakin who killed the people in the temple and fought obiwan was vader that time and the vader during his second fight with Luke was actually anakin irrespective of the vader suit
I know that's why it's vader without the suit as I said in the vid
Vader can use force lightning it literally said in one of the Star Wars books that he used Red force sith lightning but didn't ever use it again because it damaged him so yes he can use it
So he can't use it cus he'll damage himself
Hence he can't use it in a fight
Suit vader is more powerful than his younger counterpart un canon, but he lose much of his force potential,besides older vader had to master all lightsaber forns
darth vader (suit)>knightfall vader/vader no suit
idk why people think vader without suit is stronger than vader with suit
Song?
Whats the difference between offense dueling and aggressive dueling
Aggressive dueling is just how aggressive you are it has nothing to do with speed or technique, however offensive dueling is how good you are at dueling overall offensively which includes speed and skill
We can call this vader full potential or knightfall vader full potential
How do you make the pics move
How do you get the mini vids
I take a clip and make it smaller on capcut
Люк гораздо сильнее Энакина в первую очередь в моральном плане( посмотрите на Энакина в 23 года и на Люка в 23 года и почувствуйте разницу) и те кто говорят, что Энакин сильнее, нет нифига подобного. Люк полностью раскрыл свой потенциал, а главное Люк Скайуокер не только самый сильный джедай в истории галактики но и морально гораздо более устойчив чем его отец в таком же возрасте ( говорю как фанат Энакина).
Энакин бы победил если бы полностью раскрыл свой потенциал, но этого не произошло. К сожалению а может и к счастью, потому что мы увидели идеального антагониста в истории кинематографа.
No
No
No
Энакин в 22 сильнейший джедай из существующих на то время. Энакин сильнее, потому что Люк просто сильный джедай. В то время как Энакин божество Силы. Он сын Силы и внук Всесоздателя. Энакин на пике вышел за авторство и стал сильнее кого-либо в ЗВ. Люк даже в топ-20 зв не войдет. Люк сильнейший среди джедаев, если Энакина в расчёт не брать. Энакин на другом уровне. Боги Силы говорили, что Энакин выше этого. Что он не просто джедай или ситх. В этом вся разница. Люк не сильнее в 23 в моральном плане. Совсем нет. Сидиус работал над Энакином с 9 лет. Для Люка же это был просто нн дядька, который сказал убить отца. Разницу чухаешь? К тебе мужик подойдёт и говорит убить отца. Или же для Энакина это был близкий друг, который говорит убить его заклятого врага. И Вейдер манипулировал Люком, что показывало их схожесть. Только Энакин и Вейдер подвержены сюжеты, что автор говорил. Вейдер был создан раньше Энакина. Поэтому Энакина слили. А есть другая каноничная версия, где Энакин становится Императором Вейдером. (каноничная по словам автора. Он лично делал этот сюжет). И это сильнейшая версия Вейдера. Но про неё клоуны не знают.
Kommissar ты просто звездные войны не смотрел и ваще энакин гораздо сильнее люка в силе и на световых мечах тоже.
I wonder what this song is called
Like you would know slowed version 🎉
Obiwan Claps > anakin
Obiwan 3-0 Anakin/Vader
Except Old Obiwan
and 3 times against vader not anakin
Vader deletes everyone no diff. Anakin wins extreme diff, Vader wins against Luke mid diff. Also technique, dueling, skill and a couple others go to Vader not Luke
whats the song
Idk
Use shazam app to find
music name, please
why give luke battle iq. lol. people really forget that he fought and COMMANDED in the clonewars. Bro did serious sh*t.
Luke fought in the rebellion for like 3 years, Anakin has been fighting for over half his life, how does Luke take BIQ?
Grandmaster Pre exile luke takes experience and he no diffs knightfall vader
This isn't knight fall vader
He means rotj vader if he never lost to obi wan
No way
@@DELTACARE-o1hwdym no way
The name of theme?
It's "Like you would know"
Eu adorei a última parte de pai contra filho
Anakin was better than luke
Music?
Like you would know from kordhell
Vader without suit Negs them all
if thats darth vader without suit and burns then thats basically knightfall vader
Technically yes, but no. This would be like rotj Vader but with no burns or suit limiting his full potential. So this is basically full potential dark side Anakin
@@Fazzberry_Editz nah there is alr full potential dark side anakin it's wbw anakin
@@mjox5158 No, it’s not. This existed before the Ahsoka show and it clearly states it’s Vader with no suit or burns.
exactly my point vader without suit and burns is knightfall vader@@Fazzberry_Editz
@@mjox5158 But he would have the experience and biq of a rotj Vader
Knightfall more powerful darth vader (with suit=armour)
Bro
Nah. Cap. BRUH
Vader No Suit Prime = Emperor Vader
You said this is Anakin beat Obi wan in Mustafar
It is Emperor Vader
Emperor Vader negs all jedi or sith because Emperor Vader scaling > Force God in top 8-20
Suit Vader enough to defeat PE Luke
Cap suit Vader stomps mid-high diff and pre exile luke stomps no diff.
FP anakin which this is beats Luke no diff
@@smaug7221 that’s not fp anakin that’s knightfall vader
@@mrpcakes216 In this video its said that is Vader if he never lose to obi wan (FP Vader) so in this case he low diffs both Suited Vader and pre exile luke
Prime Luke low-mid diff
Luke shouldn't have one in the end
Speed, Agility, Battle IQ and Dueling to Anakin and he wins
Why are you overrating Anakin so much
I'm not he is literally this strong without the suit
First off he can’t really beat Dooku until he got dark side powers because it was a very close fight and Dooku was holding back because Palpatine told him, then we saw Anakin try his very best against Obi Wan on Mustafar and still lose, so KFV loses to ROTS Kenobi, Prime Vader, and Luke Skywalkrt
@@fiercehooknot true you fanboy
@@igornagonski8215 lmao ok
@@fiercehooksong name?
Anakin literally solos Luke