A lot easier to put the poles in first, before pegging out. Dependant on conditions can be, as can any bivvy, a bit of a condensation trap, as you say. Much as I love my Stratosphere, I prefer the Ionosphere? The Strat. has now been swapped for a Geertop Plume 2. Fraction of the price and better ventilation.....
Use a Carinthia observer plus bivybag for many years....saw several people who used the one you display. But as I do long-distance walking projects months in a row I chose the Carinthia.
@@JonathanAdami yes only worth the money if you use it s lot, which I do...yes all prices go insane for gear these days for less quality or not available at all anymore.if you need things better but now...
@@kayakcobber524 yeah uh? I'm with you, if you depend on gears, get the good stuff, it's just sometimes hard to justify when they're all made in china! (I don't know about that specific one tho) how is it btw? can you put a mattress in and still move?
I was just about to pull the trigger on that one and I'm happy I checked this video, I was planning on using this with a mattress, but it seems like the feet would be quite squeezed! I'll keep looking thanks
Does it allow to side sleep? and turn around occasionally? And will it work with a thick broad air mattress like Trekology UL140 measuring 186 x 76 x 12.5 cm??? Thanks.
Does it hold up to a REAL USGI woodland bivy? I used a USGI for years (since january 2001) and am now looking for a new bivy because I got mold in my USGI from quick pack ups for so long and I tore it. After I got out of the military I travelled the whole US on the roads and freight trains, so outside a hell of a lot, most bivys dont even go over your entire head or have loops that make a high profile, or are weak puncturable material. Im looking to see if I can take the loops out of this Snugpack...until I can find another real USGI (i bought some fakes). The loops arent good for a quick exfiltration, which sounds like LARP military stuff but not if you urban camp or camp in certain places, stuff happens. You need to be able to just shove your bag in the compression sack, whip your bivy in the air to get most of the water off and shove it in your sack, whip your mat (no puncturable inflatable mats) in the air to get the water off, attach it to your pack and leave the area. So its been a pain to find one besides the USGI
That part where the mosquito net is, does that zip up all the way? Because netting isnt waterproof so I dont know what dude in the video is saying. Im unsure if you can zip it up all the way to stay dry. The USGI doesnt zip all the way but the head part goes over your head and you habe space to tuck it in.
@@eddieallen6401 Not leaving any part unzipped? Because I want to see if I can use this and take out the tent poles and just lay it on my isomat. Because there are way to many problems with counterfeit USGI bivvies or buying stuff with holes and I'm thinking about retiring my old one (wish I could get a new USGI old style BDU one) Because a sleeping bag bivy over an iso mat is the minimalist way to go for me. Did that for years in the military and being a hobo all across the country.
It’s pretty nice. My only dislike is condensation. It’s not bad but with the bivvy so close to your face, if you sit up to fast, you can get a damp cheek. Other than that, I think it’s a good three season option with the right gear.
Hello what pillow/airpad would you reccomend that is lightweight and fits inside the stratosphere? Also can you set the strato indoors without the stakes?
Pretty much any size camp pillow would fit. When it comes to pillows we all have our personal preference. I’ve used memory foam, stuffed, and inflatable. Lately, my preference leans towards inflatable because I can regulate the pressure. Snugpak, klymit, Sea to Summit, and several other companies make these. As far as pads, make sure you get one based upon your environmental needs. A higher R value means it can handle colder temps. Check out my video on “Snugpak sleep system gear review” for some ideas. Personally, I think a tapered mat would work best. In the video, I tested the Snugpak half sized mat but based on your budget, there are several options. You probably could set the Strato up indoors without stakes but it will basically move around similar to being inside a sleeping bag. Also, although the Strato uses poles at the head section, the stake and guidelines provide the stability. I’m not sure why you would want to use it indoors, but a regular bivvy would probably be a better option. Without stakes, the Strato would likely be saggy and uncomfortable. Some brands I like best are Snugpak, Sea to Summit, Klymit, Thermarest and DD hammocks. They all make great products that I’ve tested.
@@PioneerSurvivalCompany Thanks so much for the info! the reason I ask if it can be used indoors is because I plan to go hiking but inside a city, so I was wondering if I could set up in a train station corner for example. Do you know what would be a good back pack for city hiking? I also carry a laptop and some electronics so I got an Ospray Porter 46 because I don't want to look like a crazy person walking around with a full hiking pack and I also don't have 300$ for one. I went with the Porter also because I found it on sale for Half price but it's not very comfortable for long hikes and I'm kinda disappointed on it. TL;DR I'm just trying to build a setup for city hiking and stealth camping unnoticed but it's really hard to do in under 50L when I also have to carry a 6lb laptop and electronics.
@@PioneerSurvivalCompany Im moving to another country (Japan) so I have to bring some heavy stuff that is not for survival. A 6lb laptop, some portable hard drives, my tablet and Switch. Also, I have to carry a heavy suit jacket that Im trying to pack as tight as I can. The Bag I have is the Ospray Porter 46 and a small day pack (I planned to leave the porter in a locker on the train stations) but I think I severely understimated how difficult it would be to survive on a 46L bag and have space for personal stuff. Even only packing 2 Jeans and 4 shirts. Basically Im going to be walking in the cities, looking for a job and also carrying some heavy stuff but I wanted a smaller bag that wouldnt draw too much attention. I also dont have money for a huge hiking pack anyways.
Feel free to go to PioneerSurvivalCompany.com on your desktop or mobile. We have a chat button. If you have some specific questions, ask me and I’ll try to help you out. I can fit a lot in a 46 liter pack so maybe I can give you some specific ideas.
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Sorry to be off topic but does anybody know a tool to log back into an instagram account? I was stupid lost the login password. I love any assistance you can offer me
@Hunter Ronald Thanks so much for your reply. I got to the site through google and im trying it out now. Takes quite some time so I will get back to you later when my account password hopefully is recovered.
I switch back and forth sleeping positions all night long. So yes... there is room to roll over. You will probably brush the sides while doing it because of its width. The head space area is roomy. I keep my boots and stuff by my head. So there is room to prop up your pad. One thing I forgot to mention in the review, I did waterproof all the seams prior to use. I do that with all my stuff. So at some point, I may do a follow up video. Just remember, I recommended this as 3 season. Good hearing from you. Hope this helps!
If your going to review something you should know the exact weight of the item. Just my opinion. Other than that thank you for taking the time , reviewing a product a posting it!
I added a Velcro attachment point on the inside vent, mounted a little flush fitting battery powered fan for them super hot nights haha
Legendary mate, I'll be doing this now
A lot easier to put the poles in first, before pegging out. Dependant on conditions can be, as can any bivvy, a bit of a condensation trap, as you say. Much as I love my Stratosphere, I prefer the Ionosphere?
The Strat. has now been swapped for a Geertop Plume 2. Fraction of the price and better ventilation.....
Use a Carinthia observer plus bivybag for many years....saw several people who used the one you display. But as I do long-distance walking projects months in a row I chose the Carinthia.
wow I just checked, thought "hmm pretty cool design, they don't speak about weight it looks heavy but OMG THE PRICE TAG?" lol pass!
@@JonathanAdami yes only worth the money if you use it s lot, which I do...yes all prices go insane for gear these days for less quality or not available at all anymore.if you need things better but now...
@@kayakcobber524 yeah uh? I'm with you, if you depend on gears, get the good stuff, it's just sometimes hard to justify when they're all made in china! (I don't know about that specific one tho) how is it btw? can you put a mattress in and still move?
I was just about to pull the trigger on that one and I'm happy I checked this video, I was planning on using this with a mattress, but it seems like the feet would be quite squeezed! I'll keep looking thanks
Does it allow to side sleep? and turn around occasionally? And will it work with a thick broad air mattress like Trekology UL140 measuring 186 x 76 x 12.5 cm??? Thanks.
I own one and love it.
I get a little condensation depending on the weather
RALEIGH N.C.
Does it hold up to a REAL USGI woodland bivy?
I used a USGI for years (since january 2001) and am now looking for a new bivy because I got mold in my USGI from quick pack ups for so long and I tore it. After I got out of the military I travelled the whole US on the roads and freight trains, so outside a hell of a lot, most bivys dont even go over your entire head or have loops that make a high profile, or are weak puncturable material. Im looking to see if I can take the loops out of this Snugpack...until I can find another real USGI (i bought some fakes). The loops arent good for a quick exfiltration, which sounds like LARP military stuff but not if you urban camp or camp in certain places, stuff happens. You need to be able to just shove your bag in the compression sack, whip your bivy in the air to get most of the water off and shove it in your sack, whip your mat (no puncturable inflatable mats) in the air to get the water off, attach it to your pack and leave the area. So its been a pain to find one besides the USGI
That part where the mosquito net is, does that zip up all the way? Because netting isnt waterproof so I dont know what dude in the video is saying.
Im unsure if you can zip it up all the way to stay dry. The USGI doesnt zip all the way but the head part goes over your head and you habe space to tuck it in.
@@whatabouttheearth yeah the front completely zips up. There are two zips on the upper section. One for the mesh and one for the main fabric.
@@eddieallen6401
Not leaving any part unzipped? Because I want to see if I can use this and take out the tent poles and just lay it on my isomat. Because there are way to many problems with counterfeit USGI bivvies or buying stuff with holes and I'm thinking about retiring my old one (wish I could get a new USGI old style BDU one)
Because a sleeping bag bivy over an iso mat is the minimalist way to go for me. Did that for years in the military and being a hobo all across the country.
@@whatabouttheearth Ah I see. No the rear mesh under the triangle that you can peg out can’t be zipped up but the front mesh can.
Super cool bivy! That may be on my Christmas list!
It’s pretty nice. My only dislike is condensation. It’s not bad but with the bivvy so close to your face, if you sit up to fast, you can get a damp cheek. Other than that, I think it’s a good three season option with the right gear.
What was the pad under the bivy ? Do you have a link?
It was the ThermaRest Ridge Rest Sol.
Nice review
Hello what pillow/airpad would you reccomend that is lightweight and fits inside the stratosphere? Also can you set the strato indoors without the stakes?
Pretty much any size camp pillow would fit. When it comes to pillows we all have our personal preference. I’ve used memory foam, stuffed, and inflatable. Lately, my preference leans towards inflatable because I can regulate the pressure. Snugpak, klymit, Sea to Summit, and several other companies make these. As far as pads, make sure you get one based upon your environmental needs. A higher R value means it can handle colder temps. Check out my video on “Snugpak sleep system gear review” for some ideas. Personally, I think a tapered mat would work best. In the video, I tested the Snugpak half sized mat but based on your budget, there are several options. You probably could set the Strato up indoors without stakes but it will basically move around similar to being inside a sleeping bag. Also, although the Strato uses poles at the head section, the stake and guidelines provide the stability. I’m not sure why you would want to use it indoors, but a regular bivvy would probably be a better option. Without stakes, the Strato would likely be saggy and uncomfortable. Some brands I like best are Snugpak, Sea to Summit, Klymit, Thermarest and DD hammocks. They all make great products that I’ve tested.
@@PioneerSurvivalCompany Thanks so much for the info! the reason I ask if it can be used indoors is because I plan to go hiking but inside a city, so I was wondering if I could set up in a train station corner for example. Do you know what would be a good back pack for city hiking? I also carry a laptop and some electronics so I got an Ospray Porter 46 because I don't want to look like a crazy person walking around with a full hiking pack and I also don't have 300$ for one. I went with the Porter also because I found it on sale for Half price but it's not very comfortable for long hikes and I'm kinda disappointed on it.
TL;DR I'm just trying to build a setup for city hiking and stealth camping unnoticed but it's really hard to do in under 50L when I also have to carry a 6lb laptop and electronics.
Just trying to get an idea of your situation... why do you need to carry the electronics and what are you carrying?
@@PioneerSurvivalCompany Im moving to another country (Japan) so I have to bring some heavy stuff that is not for survival. A 6lb laptop, some portable hard drives, my tablet and Switch. Also, I have to carry a heavy suit jacket that Im trying to pack as tight as I can. The Bag I have is the Ospray Porter 46 and a small day pack (I planned to leave the porter in a locker on the train stations) but I think I severely understimated how difficult it would be to survive on a 46L bag and have space for personal stuff. Even only packing 2 Jeans and 4 shirts. Basically Im going to be walking in the cities, looking for a job and also carrying some heavy stuff but I wanted a smaller bag that wouldnt draw too much attention. I also dont have money for a huge hiking pack anyways.
Feel free to go to PioneerSurvivalCompany.com on your desktop or mobile. We have a chat button. If you have some specific questions, ask me and I’ll try to help you out. I can fit a lot in a 46 liter pack so maybe I can give you some specific ideas.
what's that tarp brand btw? It looks pretty nice
Bushcraft Outfitters MEST Tarp Review
Just remember... opinions are like assholes. Everyone has one, including us.
RUS. Друг, приезжай в Россию. В тайгу. Экран сзади должен быть больше. Делай настил из лаг. Подкладывай мох. Если пойдёт сильный дождь все намокнет. Вещи клади в ноги чтобы звери еду не съели. Место для ночлега очищай от травы где можно поставить надью . Ну и много чего. Нахожусь в Марий Эл. Удачи !
@@Volna12 I only understood the exclamation point lol
Sorry to be off topic but does anybody know a tool to log back into an instagram account?
I was stupid lost the login password. I love any assistance you can offer me
@Lukas Conor Instablaster :)
@Hunter Ronald Thanks so much for your reply. I got to the site through google and im trying it out now.
Takes quite some time so I will get back to you later when my account password hopefully is recovered.
Use bungy cord at bottom of the bag peg points
I’m 6ft, can I lay on my front and watch a film on my iPhone/iPad? If I can I’m buying it. Also, nice review 👍🏼 thank you.
I switch back and forth sleeping positions all night long. So yes... there is room to roll over. You will probably brush the sides while doing it because of its width. The head space area is roomy. I keep my boots and stuff by my head. So there is room to prop up your pad. One thing I forgot to mention in the review, I did waterproof all the seams prior to use. I do that with all my stuff. So at some point, I may do a follow up video. Just remember, I recommended this as 3 season. Good hearing from you. Hope this helps!
@@PioneerSurvivalCompany excellent! Thank you for replying so soon. New sub 👍🏼
If your going to review something you should know the exact weight of the item. Just my opinion. Other than that thank you for taking the time , reviewing a product a posting it!
The colour keep shifting all the time which is a little anoying in this otherwise very good review.
Hi I think if you watch the end of your vid you can see the missing peg ag behind you under the tree
Yeah. I figured that one out too after I finished the video lol
C'mon no one said it! The peg bag......IT'S BEHIND YOU haha