@@Stilo95times have changed since the f10 m5 its all to do with regulations so I don't think it's far to compare but rather compare with the german rivals but I still prefer older models
@@WinkerPack This is somewhat of a meaningless statement to BMW nerds. What matters is the hardware, and this is S63 DNA....perfected? Maybe. But the S68 is definitely better off the shelf than it's predecessors-on paper at least-because an argument could be made for the first iteration seen in the F10. The G90 engine is an F90LCI engine, made even better 👌
@@valvetronicBMW M5,,M8 = built for the rich ,,ceo etc ppl who dont like the harch ride off a FERRARI,,LAMBORGHINI,,PORSCHE,,MC LAREN etc.. Loud cars rich ppl ,,ceo etc dont like that ,,they still wanne be able to talk normal in the BMW M5.
Sounds good! Still a bit too quiet tho, will be good with dps! Interesting that it has no valves stock, pretty sure the eu version has valves but it’s way quieter because of the opf. Edit: The eu version does indeed have valves, just checked on the car we have in our showroom at work
Headers? More like ported manifold or new manifold. It’s a hot v v8 meaning the turbos are in the valley so there’s no headers, it’s just a manifold directly into the turbos. I mean unless u want Valvetronic or some other company to figure out tube headers with hidden turbos and a redesigned/modified Valvetronic exhaust. They are also DOHC so it’d need 4 cams. Hopefully someone can physically lock the VANOS system on it, it’d be so cool to hear this thing chop. U can make any OHC engine chop by locking the various variable cam systems they have (vvt, vvl, VTEC, VANOS, whatever the manufacturer wants to call it) either physically with cam lockers (or sometimes a cam phaser lockout) or digitally with tuning to lower the rpm those systems activate at (so it’ll be active at idle and stay on) or completely turn it off and tune it out
Or Build some nice turbo headers if you can fit something under that hood, upgrade the turbos a tad, build header with turbo housing in mind . That would make some great sounds with your 4" straight pipe idea, look good if visible much under the hood too. If after the downpipes it could fit a single 4 or 4.5 inch pipe out back, no muffler . Now that would sound great. Could add muffler with valve if someone wanted I guess.
@@brodyhufstetler designed and Engineered right here in boyertown PA! Once we craft the ultimate experience we manufacture the systems in large quantities with our suppliers overseas so we can offer an unparalleled experience to everyone!
R.I.P. Warranty,. Depending on your dealer, many M5 owners have lost their warranty for simply changing their exhaust or cold air intakes even though they didn't tune the car or touch the ECU. Pretty unfortunate series of events. Make sure you get your dealers hand written approval to change the exhaust to an aftermarket one before you lose your warranty. Just looking out for people.
Great job Valvetronic 🎉 I think that’s as good as it’ll get with stock downpipes. My issue is the new G90 M5 is just not the same as previous m5s, and is otherwise pretty boring. Also the camera that’s in the sunroof control buttons, data mines your facial expressions and is used to train BMW’s incoming ai. I don’t like that🧐
Just listen to the XM stock sound and u will see the potential this car has with a great exhaust. I cant believe the XM sounds as good as it does and this is so bad stock.
To me, that’s good, I prefer natural pops and bangs. The ones bmw use (and German manufacturers in general) are tuned into the car and then ppl tune the pops and bangs to be louder and last longer and it gets on my nerves. They DO sound good from the inside, but from the outside it’s too obnoxious for me
@fadedsoul23 I thought the prior gen F90 stock exhaust in sport plus was perfect, not too obnoxious but I agree with you about those burble tunes, it is too much.
@ I mean yea they are better than the obnoxious tunes but I still personally prefer the natural pops, bangs, and flames. Only tunes I actually like that are for show are flame tunes. But natural flames are cool as well
@@danman5131let’s take this video for example. This amount of burbles is fine, and then it even popped naturally a couple times when it said *pop* on the screen. I’m ok with that. That’s PERFECT for me, I wouldn’t take it any further. It’s just personal preference, I’m not gonna hate u for it or anything haha
Sounds identical to the old one. Sounds like a 4 banger. That 180 degree manifold needs to go. The 550i has a regular hot vee manifold and those sound a million times better than the M5.
Super disrespectful comment to our hard working team of engineers, fabricators, and installers. Our systems are Designed, Developed, engineered all here at our facility in Pennsylvania, USA. How else would we be the first in the world to have an exhaust for this platform?
You couldnt be more wrong. Not only did we develop the worlds first g90 exhaust in this video, but we highly recommend you watch our Revuelto Development video posted just after this and see what we actually do in house
F10, F90 (and now the G90) are weird sounding V8s...I have still not heard a nice sounding exhaust for any of these. They can be loud, but they are not very tuneful.
It’s the cross plane manifold. Makes it very unique compared other tt v8’s. With the correct setup they can sound pretty good, it’ll just be different.
See the problem with them and other German turbo v8s are they are all (besides the 5.5L TT from Mercedes and maybe some diesel v8s from the big German three) hot vee turbo engines. That’s why they sound weird, especially the 4L TT motors from Audi and Mercedes in the RS and AMG models. Cold v turbos (like that 5.5 TT v8 I mentioned) sound like proper v8s plus some turbo sounds, like if u were to turbo an LS or something and put an emissions compliant exhaust on it, both should similar if not the exact same
The stock exhaust is pathetic. Munich should be ashamed of itself. I think it’s only a matter of a few years before they bring back an actual m exhaust. Hopefully
If you put a valve on a car that doesn't have one that eill quiet the car down so itsvbot accurate to tell people you have the valves closed. thats not a stock exhaust and the car has a louder exhaust plus the M sound inside the car is not even noticeable on or off like beemers has fake sounds and yall made it sound good 😂😂😂😅
It's sad, trying to make this a real car, it's so ugly, these aren't cars anymore, just computers iPhones with wheels. Eventually power doesn't matter when it's 6000lbs can't turn it, just not fun anymore. Sorry gen Z the cars of today are soft just like you! F8X F90 are the last BMWs. It's only Porsche now
9:26 that's def some pops and bangs going on. People that make it sound crazy loud are annoying tbh usually people just prefer that smooth sound. I'm sure more reputable brands will make an even better exhaust though.
Damn this does not sound good at all. Hope it isnt your exhaust and the car is just doomed...I wouldnt advise anyone to drop 5k on an exhaust to make their car sound so basic.
even f90 sounds better with stock exhaust. The only way to make aftermarket sound good is the cats gotta go. My Fi sounded quieter than stock they were smart tho they designed the exhaust to be combined with a fully catless setup so that when valves closed it actually sounded quieter than fully stock and when valves are open it sounds insane. I am sure when Valvetronic goes fully catless it will sound insane
ppl complain, but honestly im just grateful its still a v8!
V8 is meant for sound, not like this
@@da_meme_guy_2010 true but it’s still a v8, ahem Mercedes c63
@@da_meme_guy_2010 you can just put on an aftermarked exhaust. fixed.
@@Stilo95 bad as in sound? weight?
@@Stilo95times have changed since the f10 m5 its all to do with regulations so I don't think it's far to compare but rather compare with the german rivals but I still prefer older models
There's that F90 sound we all love 🤤🤤🤤
Detuned motor compared with F90
Nah the car sounded nice already foh
@@WinkerPack This is somewhat of a meaningless statement to BMW nerds. What matters is the hardware, and this is S63 DNA....perfected? Maybe. But the S68 is definitely better off the shelf than it's predecessors-on paper at least-because an argument could be made for the first iteration seen in the F10.
The G90 engine is an F90LCI engine, made even better 👌
People are hating but honestly this sounds really similar to the f90, just needs a full system and it will be awesome
It’s not similar, is it definitly identical
The issue is you then void your warranty, rather buy an F90 cause its the best looking, best performing and best sounding M5 ever made.
@@Stilo95bruh that's what I'm saying, imagine🤦🏽♂️🚮
@@tsaki_titanbest sounding is e60
@@tsaki_titan i'd buy the F10 bcz it had the option getting a 6 speed transmission
Everyone hated this car when it came out and it is slowly growing on everyone. Just like the G80 release. Typical BMW 😂
Talk for yourself mate
I still find it horrendous and unelegant
Man when I saw the G80 I was in love and the same with this thing. Nothing needs to grow on me, it’s just looking great
Growing on who?
@@SudSale31why are you here then?
Nah it's still ugly asf
this is how it should've sound like from factory , nice job
the car just came out yesterday big bro 😭🙏
Still sounds like a vacuum cleaner compared to f90
Probably still has stock cats
^ needs the full catless or high-flow cats for sure
Your vacuum cleaner is broken please get a new one cos it's not supposed to be as loud as this M5. Throw it in the garbage 🗑️ bin it's broken
Sounds better than your slow car
Comparison is theft of joy
Thankfully you’re not the target audience
Wow that’s really amazing exhaust system 💯🔥🔥🔥🔥
@@adankadir1052 stay tuned for the free flow setup 👀
@@valvetronicI cant wait!
@@valvetronicBMW M5,,M8 = built for the rich ,,ceo etc ppl who dont like the harch ride off a FERRARI,,LAMBORGHINI,,PORSCHE,,MC LAREN etc..
Loud cars rich ppl ,,ceo etc dont like that ,,they still wanne be able to talk normal in the BMW M5.
@@valvetronic can’t wait for that 💯💯🔥🔥
I knew that you guys will be the first!
The best!!!!
Wooooo!!!! Finally!!!! I'm so surprised no one just got it straight piped catback when receiving one hahah that's what I'm doing when I get mine!
Cute. Seats matches his hair color.
Brandon’s reaction says it all 🔥
5:48 10:27 w/ downpipe would hit hard 🤞🏽
Sounds good! Still a bit too quiet tho, will be good with dps! Interesting that it has no valves stock, pretty sure the eu version has valves but it’s way quieter because of the opf.
Edit: The eu version does indeed have valves, just checked on the car we have in our showroom at work
Currently sounds like a turbo 6. Some headers, cam swap and 4" turbo back straight pipe could make that v8 sing.
Next video will be free flow
Headers? More like ported manifold or new manifold. It’s a hot v v8 meaning the turbos are in the valley so there’s no headers, it’s just a manifold directly into the turbos. I mean unless u want Valvetronic or some other company to figure out tube headers with hidden turbos and a redesigned/modified Valvetronic exhaust. They are also DOHC so it’d need 4 cams. Hopefully someone can physically lock the VANOS system on it, it’d be so cool to hear this thing chop. U can make any OHC engine chop by locking the various variable cam systems they have (vvt, vvl, VTEC, VANOS, whatever the manufacturer wants to call it) either physically with cam lockers (or sometimes a cam phaser lockout) or digitally with tuning to lower the rpm those systems activate at (so it’ll be active at idle and stay on) or completely turn it off and tune it out
Or Build some nice turbo headers if you can fit something under that hood, upgrade the turbos a tad, build header with turbo housing in mind . That would make some great sounds with your 4" straight pipe idea, look good if visible much under the hood too. If after the downpipes it could fit a single 4 or 4.5 inch pipe out back, no muffler . Now that would sound great. Could add muffler with valve if someone wanted I guess.
@@tomt8780 yea I’d like to see some hot v long tube headers with the turbos relocated a bit downstream, I bet it’d sound so much better
was waiting for this video after i seen the tiktok😮💨🔥
I dont get why people say its ugly to me it look good
Cuz they ain’t gonna buy one
Of course it looks better than a Camry but looks ugly compared to earlier BMWs.
Not a fan of valtronic anything, I prefer AWE exhausts, but y’all are killing it.
That tuned sound sounds like the original F90 sound.
TBH, when I bought my F90 Comp (in february 2020), it sounded like shit (in Europe). I had to do an OPF-delete to sound good.
Bigger tips would definitely fill that rear end in better
I’m assuming that’s an x pipe above the exhaust jack, if it is y’all should move that closer to the engine. It’ll sound much better.
@@Ryan-rp1es development phase! we will be sure to offer enthisast a the ultimate exhaust setup for the platform ;)
yep saved by Valvetronic
When do you guys anticipate this being ready to sell?
we need to hear the full titanium exhaust on this bii😂
Was there a particulate filter on the stock exhaust? The new B48/58 cars in the US have them. Eww...
The G90 doesn't have any other option than the comfort seats right?
When will they go on sale
Pre-orders opening soon. Deliveries inSpring 2025
@@valvetronicthank you gonna order 100%
How much pounds lighter is it
Wow 🤩👌🏻
I think it’s just the sports exhaust no decat, so let’s just wait the car it’s new and they’re still developing the mods
Modern stock exhaust systems are gonna be hard to open up with all the sound dampening
now it needs a dowepipe and tune.!
Where do you route the cables from the valves, since it didn't have them on the stock exhaust?
@@ProLexHD we found a grommet in the trunk!
the car just came out 29 seconds ago bro
why when this car drifts the tire sounds are so loud lmfao
where does valvtronic manufactur their exhaust?
@@brodyhufstetler designed and Engineered right here in boyertown PA! Once we craft the ultimate experience we manufacture the systems in large quantities with our suppliers overseas so we can offer an unparalleled experience to everyone!
So china?
@@davidmitchell5638 of course, where everything in America country is made 🇨🇳☺️
Overnighted the exhaust from temu 🎉
@@janprokopenko7928 designed, developed, engineered, and built in Boyertown, PA. Come by our HQ and stay tuned for our development video!
I like cars and I'm new to some of this stuff but if I got this exhaust what would I need to do to it to make it louder and pop more
@@RainzSB downpipes
The M in M5 stands for Missile
Did you delete any cats or resonators with this exhaust? Usually bmw has secondary cats and resonators.
@@jason82180 there are no midcats, just some biiiiig resonators
@ did you remove those?
Needs bigger tips to fill those diffuser gaps
@@karcio424 it will have larger options when it is in production
F90 sound + exhaust sold as a rocket caught on landing. Gimme a break.
yes but the g90 fucks your f90 back and forth brah
@Levente20 not exactly, and with empty batteries not in this galaxy, on the track not in this universe.
Probably should wait for Remus or Akrapovic.
does it not make the brrr noise anymore?
It’s not a DCT since the previous model
R.I.P. Warranty,. Depending on your dealer, many M5 owners have lost their warranty for simply changing their exhaust or cold air intakes even though they didn't tune the car or touch the ECU. Pretty unfortunate series of events. Make sure you get your dealers hand written approval to change the exhaust to an aftermarket one before you lose your warranty. Just looking out for people.
those snake eyes my God😍😈
Needs catless downpipes
Great job Valvetronic 🎉 I think that’s as good as it’ll get with stock downpipes.
My issue is the new G90 M5 is just not the same as previous m5s, and is otherwise pretty boring. Also the camera that’s in the sunroof control buttons, data mines your facial expressions and is used to train BMW’s incoming ai. I don’t like that🧐
I prefer the Santorini
Sorry guys but it’s not the worlds
First 357 in South Africa has already did a second g90 full exhaust already
I have an 22 F90 Comp Stage 1 and drove one of These. They feel nothing alike.
Yea first thing i did to my g87 was bimmer code that ads bs lol
Its not the first exhaust system for the g90 in the world the first one was aulitzky tuning in germany
Just listen to the XM stock sound and u will see the potential this car has with a great exhaust. I cant believe the XM sounds as good as it does and this is so bad stock.
The hybrid killed the pops n bangs...😢 nice exhaust.
To me, that’s good, I prefer natural pops and bangs. The ones bmw use (and German manufacturers in general) are tuned into the car and then ppl tune the pops and bangs to be louder and last longer and it gets on my nerves. They DO sound good from the inside, but from the outside it’s too obnoxious for me
@fadedsoul23 I thought the prior gen F90 stock exhaust in sport plus was perfect, not too obnoxious but I agree with you about those burble tunes, it is too much.
@ I mean yea they are better than the obnoxious tunes but I still personally prefer the natural pops, bangs, and flames. Only tunes I actually like that are for show are flame tunes. But natural flames are cool as well
@@danman5131let’s take this video for example. This amount of burbles is fine, and then it even popped naturally a couple times when it said *pop* on the screen. I’m ok with that. That’s PERFECT for me, I wouldn’t take it any further. It’s just personal preference, I’m not gonna hate u for it or anything haha
@fadedsoul23 It still sounds good but yah all about personal performance. All good 👍
Those who criticize the car = Those who can't afford the car🤡🤡
so we have to afford smth to have an opinion?
what？m5？why sound like 530e？
all its missing is a tune
Sounds identical to the old one. Sounds like a 4 banger. That 180 degree manifold needs to go. The 550i has a regular hot vee manifold and those sound a million times better than the M5.
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Super disrespectful comment to our hard working team of engineers, fabricators, and installers. Our systems are Designed, Developed, engineered all here at our facility in Pennsylvania, USA. How else would we be the first in the world to have an exhaust for this platform?
You guys just drop ship
You couldnt be more wrong. Not only did we develop the worlds first g90 exhaust in this video, but we highly recommend you watch our Revuelto Development video posted just after this and see what we actually do in house
F10, F90 (and now the G90) are weird sounding V8s...I have still not heard a nice sounding exhaust for any of these. They can be loud, but they are not very tuneful.
Listen toS63Rackey his sounds good asf
@@Jmarzxhe has our system!
It’s the cross plane manifold. Makes it very unique compared other tt v8’s. With the correct setup they can sound pretty good, it’ll just be different.
See the problem with them and other German turbo v8s are they are all (besides the 5.5L TT from Mercedes and maybe some diesel v8s from the big German three) hot vee turbo engines. That’s why they sound weird, especially the 4L TT motors from Audi and Mercedes in the RS and AMG models. Cold v turbos (like that 5.5 TT v8 I mentioned) sound like proper v8s plus some turbo sounds, like if u were to turbo an LS or something and put an emissions compliant exhaust on it, both should similar if not the exact same
listen to my fi exhaust f90 sounds way better in person to
Is it just me or does it sound like a B58 ? Very similar tone
Make it louder 120 Dp
They did a better job with the m2 this is not even loud.
Still quiet
The speaker sounds🤦🏽♂️
Please use a better mic
The stock exhaust is pathetic. Munich should be ashamed of itself. I think it’s only a matter of a few years before they bring back an actual m exhaust. Hopefully
Brown interior ?? 😂
If you put a valve on a car that doesn't have one that eill quiet the car down so itsvbot accurate to tell people you have the valves closed. thats not a stock exhaust and the car has a louder exhaust plus the M sound inside the car is not even noticeable on or off like beemers has fake sounds and yall made it sound good 😂😂😂😅
It's sad, trying to make this a real car, it's so ugly, these aren't cars anymore, just computers iPhones with wheels. Eventually power doesn't matter when it's 6000lbs can't turn it, just not fun anymore. Sorry gen Z the cars of today are soft just like you! F8X F90 are the last BMWs. It's only Porsche now
Do the pops come with a tune? Cause its still boring, it just sounds one dimensional.
9:26 that's def some pops and bangs going on. People that make it sound crazy loud are annoying tbh usually people just prefer that smooth sound. I'm sure more reputable brands will make an even better exhaust though.
This is not tuned. It is completely stock
@@G82Watts I prefer the F90 even stock, it sounds better than thise one tuned, it has the perfect amount of pops with the perfect amount of loudness.
Way better but still quite 😢
Without Downpipes still shit.
Only thing ugly about this car is the weight
The new M5 is hideous. :(
it all went downhill from the m5 f10, f90 m5 was the last real m5 made. this is CRAP. a 200k toyota camry.
Hideous......
downpipes immediately
Sounds even worse than F90 :(
F90 already was worst V8 sound)))
Race to "World First" RUclips content is cringe asf
This thing is hideous
so sad that its butt ugly
Damn this does not sound good at all. Hope it isnt your exhaust and the car is just doomed...I wouldnt advise anyone to drop 5k on an exhaust to make their car sound so basic.
even f90 sounds better with stock exhaust. The only way to make aftermarket sound good is the cats gotta go. My Fi sounded quieter than stock they were smart tho they designed the exhaust to be combined with a fully catless setup so that when valves closed it actually sounded quieter than fully stock and when valves are open it sounds insane. I am sure when Valvetronic goes fully catless it will sound insane
Stay tuned for the free flow setup. That may prove you wrong.
Its very ugly car
It’s still ugly
The most shameful BMW
Wrong