This is absolutely the best sounding wireless speaker that I ever heard, the sound is not boring at all as the video says, it’s realistic carrying something called “resolution” that other speakers try to hide their lack of resolution by tuning the sound
Vifa has much more resolution and refinement but is tuned naturally and sounds realistic, b&w has very boosted highs which, as you've said try to hide the lack of resolution and just sound fake.
I enjoyed the vid. My Zeppelin Classic just fizzled and works no more, well out of warranty but I was offered a replacement Wireless for £299 from Bowers. I have to say, I watched your vid from start to finish, i was impressed with all of them, in their own right. I did prefer the Zeppelin throughout, only once did i find the Harmon Kardon come close, but all this is a personal preference to our own ears. Its not often i spend 38 mins watching a youtube vid, but I did with yours, keep it up and thank you. Graeme. Ps I enjoyed the Rebecca Pidgeon, Spanish Harlem bit, think i may buy that.
You must have some emotional attachment with the Vifa because there is no other way you like it over the B&W. In all tracks B&W was hands-down the better speaker. So much more detail in B&W sound, incredible precision and tight bass. At least from what I hear over my Sennheiser headphones... Vifa gets close though, it's an insult you're comparing the B&W to those JBL or HK parts, they're totally out-classed... I really like your videos though, and I'd like to see more videos on the B&W Zeppelin Wireless. Cheers!
A big thanks to you. I just got a new Zeppelin. Paired right out of the box with Mac Book Pro and Iphone 6plus. Love it. I might get Copenhagen at a later date because I believe it will be a worthy purchase as well.
I've had the Bowers & Wilkins A7 for a few years now and it sounds great. It has two tube loaded tweeters and two Kevlar 3inch mid ranges and a 6inch sub-woofer.
The Harmon Go+Play seemed to be the best competitor, almost a little too bass heavy and lacked the Zepp's refinement but otherwise, not half bad, assuming it costs way less. Too bad Harmon's break as often as they do.
Just got mine back after a few years it was entertaining my kid. It was like getting an old friend back. I even managed to do a firmware upgrade from 2016 in 2021! I've got some pretty nice headphones/DAC/amplifier, but I had forgotten the benefits of a decent room speaker. I use it via Apple Airplay, which I do think sound better than BlueTooth. I wish I could find a wall bracket, for sale, that was from Bowers & Wilkins.
wow , listening with good equipment the zeppelin is bar far the best and most hifi speaker , much better than the vifa , although the hk is not the most hifi , your test shows how much sound you get for such little money , for lower budget the hk is a win
i can only judge from your recording and with good earphones plugged to a good dac/amp the vifa sound a bit boxy compare to the zeppelin but maybe i can come on some holidays to yours , which looks like beautiful countryside , and you can prove me wrong LOL
I found there was a bit too much aluminium tweeter sound in the b&w. Maybe the tweeter level is too high, or they are using a cheaper tweeter than in their normal speakers. It sounds decent otherwise. The Vifa is the smoothest overall, a little bit of bloom on the lower end, but probably due to the room. Harman Kardons have a midrange dip, and deep but slightly muddy bass.
26:59 IMO you should not remove the speaker's cover for your reviews.... or remove it for both of the speakers in direct comparison, otherwise it's a bit unfair to say that some vocal is unnaturally bright or something... speaker is designed and tuned (sound-wise) with respect to having this cover on, so if someone removes it, he should be aware that the higher mids and trebles become much more present in the sound :)
Speaker Toni I may trust you, but it won't change the fact that you really remove those covers (grills or whatever) on speakers very often, if not always :) In particular, you are probably the only one who listens to B&O S3 without cover... it's more usual that people want to extend the tweeter's covering to eliminate its harshness :D
Hey how did you take off the grill? I have one and I don't want to mess anything up. There's nowhere online that shows it's safe to stick a butter knife in and separate the grill from the speaker.
Alexandru Simonescu better than the Copenhagen? Noo Why does everyone not like Copenhagen haha. I will do more videos of it. The Go play really has no chance. Maybe it didn't came right in the video.
It could be that in real life they sound different than through mics, our headphones, etc. I'm only basing my opinion on what I hear in the video, also the taste in sound is subjective too
Alexandru Simonescu I've actually heard The Zep in person in 2016 Before I purchased My JBL Flip 3 at the end of the Year, From "My experience" & knowing how I love Bass within my speakers, Despite the look (Specs are everything) In general This spear is Extremely Bass boosted, The only way To trust my Fact is to head to a Best Buy that still has Demos out, Take a listen for yourself. Both Speakers are Great
Hi Toni. Compare more the Zeppelin and the Copenhagen. Both are great. With one you prefer? I think Copenhagen cleaner than b&w and b&w has more bass. I really would like to see the oslo and Copenhagen drivers. Thank you.
I can't say this enough: ur accent makes u sound so cuddly and adorable. :-). Thanks for mentioning the klipsch stadium in your last video where u reviewed the best speakers in 2016, and for calling out those videos with bogus reviews that are nothing more than a reading of the spec sheet. I hope at some point u can get ur hands on the stadium. I'd like to know. How it compares to the devialet phantom. The stadium has extremely impressive reviews, even in the bass department.
TruAgape1234 thank you. You are the only one who really likes a German accent, haha. The stadium is a rather old speaker. The phantom is much louder but the Klipsch might sound more special.
libeRebil. Yea the reviews on the stadium are extremely good. They say the bass gets down to the mid 20hz region with authority. Have you been able to compare the stadium to the devialet phantom silver or gold?
TruAgape1234 the Klipsch definitely does not reach down to 20-30 hz like the phantom. If there something what the devialet can do good it is playing deep bass notes. I don't think that the Stadium would beat it, just because it is an older model.
Played back video through headphones and a Beolit 17. The Zepplin just sounds incredibly honest, all the sound coming from one flat plane. The bass is incredibly quick/responsive. The Copenhagen is a wonderful speaker but sounds like standing right outside the door of a great concert hall, it's constricted or something. The HK is also good but just not in the same league. That said for 299$ (if you can get one) it is not 400$ less sounding than the B&W. It is better than the Beolit 17 by a hair though. Bang and Olufsen stuff lasts forever too so that's always the reason I go with them. I have a pair of those S3 he has on the table, phenomenal. I also have a pair of Beoplay A9 (spoiled myself when they were on sale), great but not 6K great,
Me & You differ Cause any Bass lover Will Pick the Bowers over the other, For in home use that is "Background Bass, Very Punchy" Cause in my opinion Not everyone is Concerned about such Clean Vocals, If that were the case Speakers wouldn't exist, Only (Tweeters) Would be installed XD
Yarmaine Guy oh god. How can you say that. "If you focus on treble and mids you only need a tweeter." You can't say something like that. "Either you like bass or treble". The mids need bass to sound full and the bass needs mids for contouring. Ever heard a tweeter only?
Speaker Toni That's the way you make it sound, Be real If that was the Case They wouldn't have invented Subs look Take The "Nyne Bass" for Example That includes a Sub, Sells for way cheaper on Amazon Surprised me honestly. & How I Feel you seem to Want perfection in Every Unit, When Majority of People focus on Bass, without Bass what is a Song Really?
Yarmaine Guy the song is nothing. But a song is nothing too. Thinking like this is so primitiv. I don't want to insult you but it is true. Subs are invented to get more, better bass. The nyne sounds like shot although it has a sub. Not every sub offers good bass. They are made to work with the system and not instead of it.
Yarmaine Guy it is not about I'll stick with bass and you with treble. If you have a speaker without treble you won't like it. If you get one without bass you don't like it.
I wonder which one would sound better Bowers and Wilkins zeppelin Or my first generation Dr. Dre beatbox 200 W portable stereo it is really really loud with a lot of bass no distortion very very clear very loud Dr.Dre beatbox 200 W
Hey there Tony , any chance of seeing a review or comparison of Harman Kardon Citation 500 , JBL L16, B&O M5, Bose SoundTouch 30, B&W Zeppelin Wireless?
Hello Speaker Toni, can you please provide some advice ( step by step guide) how to remove that front side textil cover from Zeppelin ? Cant find specific steps how to do it. With older version Air it was easy, but not with this Wireless brother :D
PvM Renz you have to carefully stick a screwdriver in-between the grill and the body. You'll still need quite a bit of pressure and it might be a little scratched.
PvM Renz yes, but you have to apply pressure for this as well and be careful with your fingers getting stuck between the grill as it sits super tight once it snaps back in.
@@Im-over-9000 Hello, could you give a quick run on how to remove the grill? Mine is damaged and I already located a replacement part online but really can't figure out how to remove the original. Is there any screw? Or it's just apply pressure, like disassembling a remote control?
hey toni, i am undecided about buying the zeppelin because i hear drowned mids (male vocals particularly) , some reviewers also mentioned this, since i listen mostly rock this would be a very big deal, what your opinion on zepp mid range equalization? thanks in advance
Nice video👍🏻 can you please tell me how did you take the grill off? The cloth on my zeppelin is torn, and I would like to try and fix it. Can't seem to find any tutorials regarding this matter on yt, for this particular model. Looking forward to your reply! :)
@@maxcorrea9334 I managed to do it, and it's actually not that hard... you just need to be very patient and careful so you dont damage anything aesthetically. There is no other type of damage you can make (i.e. eith electronics or similar), in my opinion... but of course, I'm not responsible if you do😅 So, I took a guitar pick, and placed right in between where the mesh and body meet.. you want to go as deep as you can with the guitar pick, but not too deep (I went like 5-7mm in). It helps if you have more guitar picks, so you can leave them in place when you separate the grill from the body, and continue working your way around it, without the previuos ones snapping back into place... So basically, the whole grill is attached to body with clasps all the way around... when you want to put it back, it all snaps back where it should
was thinking about buying this speaker but after seeing the comparison between the Go Play in battery mode I probably wont buy it anymore (it really isnt worth the price if it can't convicely beat the Go Play)
AllSeeyingGuy it beats the Go play by a lot. When you want a big loud and bassy sound you can stick with the Go play. For something hi fi and serious go with the Zeppelin.
Hey Toni, wie hast du einen externen EQ benutzt oder kann man am wireless Einstellungen im sub-menu machen? Reicht der iphone EQ aus oder sollte man nachbessern? Danke
Hi, thanks for the great video! I have two zeppelin wireless. You spoke about an equaliser to improve the bass on the zeppelin. I am wondering what software or app you were using to do this? Also do you know how you could have two zeppelins playing at the same time and playing the same track through Bluetooth or airplay? Cheers.
Thanks for a good review. I have noted that the Bowers has a hissing sound on both tweeters and you can hear the sound if you stand next to the speaker. Do you notice this too?
You are very mistaken if you think there is no difference in quality between bluetooth and airplay. Airplay definitely sounds better, quite noticeably.
I recorded the same track via AirPlay and Bluetooth with my mics and it sounded the same. AirPlay is just a less convenient and outdated way of connecting to the speaker.
Just read this. www.audiogurus.com/learn/speakers/bluetooth-vs-airplay/446 Bluetooth isnt always lossless, where as airplay is. Only Aptx enabled bluetooth products are. So in the Zeppelin case there is almost no difference (has aptx) but in other speakers you can tell.
It doesn’t matter what is lossless in theory. Bluetooth in speakers in generell have so much “loss” in the audio signal that it almost doesn’t matter what you throw at them. In most cases (like mine) you can’t even hear any difference.
Binaurale Mikrofone find ich an sich cool. Man kriegt einfach n besseren räumlichen Eindruck. Aber die Qualität ist bei diesen wie du schon selbst gemerkt hast nicht die beste. Wichtig finde ich vorallem, dass der Frequenzgang möglichst neutral ist.
Wobei ich mich frage, ob für die Beurteilung des Auflösungsvermögen und der Klangabstimmung eine Aufnahme mit Kleinmembran-Kondensatormikrofonen mit dichter Positionierung nicht am besten geeignet ist. An die Auflösung von einem guten Kondensatormikrofon mit binauralen Mikrofon ranzukommen wird schwierig, wenn man nicht ein Vermögen ausgeben will. Außerdem wird die Beurteilung bei großen Abstand schwieriger aufgrund der Raumakustik. Aber der räumliche Eindruck ist auch nicht unwichtig und dafür sind binaurale Mikrofone natürlich nicht zu schlagen.
Arne Pusch mit dem Abstand ist es aber am realistischsten. Wie gesagt bei meinen schnellen vergleichen benutze ich Nahaufnahmen! Ich habe oluv (clavinetjunkie) gefragt und er sagte dass diese Mikrofone abgesehen von dem hohen Rauschen seinen relativ ähnlich sind. Ich dachte dass ich statt in neue Lautsprecher in das 3dio Xlr freespace investiere. Was meinst du? Das wäre ja top.
Kenne mich bei den unterschiedlichen binauralen Mikrofonen nicht aus. Sieht aber schon preislich nach was gutem aus. Am realistischsten ist es schon. Aber ich habe nach den Anschauen diverse Speaker-Vergleichs-Videos den Eindruck, dass die Basswiedergabe und untere Mitten ganz gut beurteilt werden kann, obere Mitten und Höhen dagegen sehr schwierig. Ich schätze, das liegt daran, dass Mikrofon und Kopfhörer dann doch einfach zu schlecht sind, um so etwas wie Auflösung eines Lautsprechers präzise darzustellen (und meine HD600 sollten schon zu den besseren Kopfhörern gehören). Daher denke ich, dass hierfür eine nahe Mikrofonierung wenigstens die Raumakustik etwas ausschaltet und die Beurteilung leichter macht. Kann aber auch sein, dass viele eh nicht so genau hinhören, wenn man sich die Kommentare durchliest. Kannst ja mal ein bisschen rumtesten. Deine Videos sind aber so oder so top!
Arne Pusch die meisten mics lösen in der Tat nicht genug auf, aber für normale Lautsprecher sollte es reichen. Die meisten spielen ja eh nur bis 15-25khz.
Amith Ganesan you need to put a screw driver between the grill and the enclosure There are several clips holding them together so I’d suggest putting a spacer in the gap and work your way around the grill
@@speakertoni2680 Thanks for your response. Can you please show me where to start? I tried to insert a screw driver in there but it is really form fit! Thanks again.
Vifa definitely out shines B&W. The first test was not easy to differentiate the two. But the few after tests. Vifa wins by a huge margin. Vifa is more true to the soundstage and vocal imo
Got goosebumps everytime it switched to the zeplin, that clarity is epic. Zeplin sounds like Eve Audio studio monitors, that’s probably why it does your head in if you listen to it too long lol. Your ears get fatigue. Didn’t like the JBL, sounds muffled like not enough separation between the different sounds.
I have the same here, I just picked one up but it fell off of a shelf from the previous owner, the grill is really only held on magnetically, just follow the edges at the fabric, lift gently and it should come away as you circle around it.
@@valenmontessori6445 when I posted that last year i was under the impression that it was that easy, since then i have discovered that my grill was damaged so much that the clips that actually hold it onto the unit were truly holds it on, I am looking into buying a replacement grill now, alas a video would not be much help.
just bought the zeppelin wireless not too impressed, sounded too flat. Only good feature is the always on standby mode. I'm thinking of the Devialet Phantom Gold.. or maybe the Kef LS50W.. or maybe the Naim Qb ..what do you think?
@@speakertoni2680 it's my funny valentine but by who? It's a famous song many have sung it, I found alot of interesting d music looking 4 it tho thanks
if you keep complaining about neighbors than you should either stop testing or find another place. That's not something I want to hear in a testing review
how about i know is not fair comperation .. but now im hasitating betwen charge3 or b1 .. i want someting smaler with a big surprising sound.. i was considering bose soundlink mini before... but.. mainly couse the design.. im nuts about silver and white.. obsesed about oblivion the movie.. so no surprize i love the phantom look.. but not the price tag.. lol
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This is absolutely the best sounding wireless speaker that I ever heard, the sound is not boring at all as the video says, it’s realistic carrying something called “resolution” that other speakers try to hide their lack of resolution by tuning the sound
Vifa has much more resolution and refinement but is tuned naturally and sounds realistic, b&w has very boosted highs which, as you've said try to hide the lack of resolution and just sound fake.
@@lukabosnjak3829loool no stop trolling. The vifa is a portable BT speaker the zeppelin is a soundbar
@@L4ftyOne I heard the new Zeppelin a few days ago, owning the Vifa Copenhagen 2.0, B&W sounds like a toy in comparison, not close even in loudness...
I enjoyed the vid. My Zeppelin Classic just fizzled and works no more, well out of warranty but I was offered a replacement Wireless for £299 from Bowers. I have to say, I watched your vid from start to finish, i was impressed with all of them, in their own right. I did prefer the Zeppelin throughout, only once did i find the Harmon Kardon come close, but all this is a personal preference to our own ears. Its not often i spend 38 mins watching a youtube vid, but I did with yours, keep it up and thank you. Graeme. Ps I enjoyed the Rebecca Pidgeon, Spanish Harlem bit, think i may buy that.
You must have some emotional attachment with the Vifa because there is no other way you like it over the B&W. In all tracks B&W was hands-down the better speaker. So much more detail in B&W sound, incredible precision and tight bass. At least from what I hear over my Sennheiser headphones... Vifa gets close though, it's an insult you're comparing the B&W to those JBL or HK parts, they're totally out-classed...
I really like your videos though, and I'd like to see more videos on the B&W Zeppelin Wireless. Cheers!
Duke I agree with you about the B&W. The comparisons with the JBL and especially the HK were I thought necessary for reference. No offense.
Ur on point mate!
Hey leave H/K alone, they're not up there with Bowers but they are excellent nonetheless.
I think Zeppelin has better sound stage more open but vifa more deep bass more vocal i dont know about real life but through my headphones ...
A big thanks to you. I just got a new Zeppelin. Paired right out of the box with Mac Book Pro and Iphone 6plus. Love it. I might get Copenhagen at a later date because I believe it will be a worthy purchase as well.
I've had the Bowers & Wilkins A7 for a few years now and it sounds great. It has two tube loaded tweeters and two Kevlar 3inch mid ranges and a 6inch sub-woofer.
Joseph Sosani I know but the wireless is better.
Also, You're right about the bass reduction at higher volumes. My A7 has the same thing.
Speaker Toni just get a Bluetooth adapter, instant Zeppelin :)
The Harmon Go+Play seemed to be the best competitor, almost a little too bass heavy and lacked the Zepp's refinement but otherwise, not half bad, assuming it costs way less. Too bad Harmon's break as often as they do.
I heard this at a very loud volume and it sounded incredible
I realize Im pretty randomly asking but do anybody know a good place to stream newly released series online ?
@Zane Roy Flixportal =)
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@Zane Roy Glad I could help xD
Just got mine back after a few years it was entertaining my kid. It was like getting an old friend back. I even managed to do a firmware upgrade from 2016 in 2021! I've got some pretty nice headphones/DAC/amplifier, but I had forgotten the benefits of a decent room speaker.
I use it via Apple Airplay, which I do think sound better than BlueTooth. I wish I could find a wall bracket, for sale, that was from Bowers & Wilkins.
wow , listening with good equipment the zeppelin is bar far the best and most hifi speaker , much better than the vifa ,
although the hk is not the most hifi , your test shows how much sound you get for such little money , for lower budget the hk is a win
jp s oh haha, I like the vifa more:)
But it also sounds more hi fi. The Zeppelin is getting unnatural sometimes.
i can only judge from your recording and with good earphones plugged to a good dac/amp the vifa sound a bit boxy compare to the zeppelin
but maybe i can come on some holidays to yours , which looks like beautiful countryside , and you can prove me wrong LOL
I found there was a bit too much aluminium tweeter sound in the b&w. Maybe the tweeter level is too high, or they are using a cheaper tweeter than in their normal speakers. It sounds decent otherwise.
The Vifa is the smoothest overall, a little bit of bloom on the lower end, but probably due to the room.
Harman Kardons have a midrange dip, and deep but slightly muddy bass.
Look at the b and w Soundstage and instrument separation.
can you do a bass test with the zeppelin later?
I want the go play XD for the price it sound soo good
26:59 IMO you should not remove the speaker's cover for your reviews.... or remove it for both of the speakers in direct comparison, otherwise it's a bit unfair to say that some vocal is unnaturally bright or something... speaker is designed and tuned (sound-wise) with respect to having this cover on, so if someone removes it, he should be aware that the higher mids and trebles become much more present in the sound :)
Stanislav Baranec the grill doesn't change anything. The Go play won't better after taking of the grill trust me.
Speaker Toni I may trust you, but it won't change the fact that you really remove those covers (grills or whatever) on speakers very often, if not always :) In particular, you are probably the only one who listens to B&O S3 without cover... it's more usual that people want to extend the tweeter's covering to eliminate its harshness :D
Hey how did you take off the grill? I have one and I don't want to mess anything up. There's nowhere online that shows it's safe to stick a butter knife in and separate the grill from the speaker.
Alex L it will be very hard to do. I put a screwdriver in and then screws between the gabs so the grill does not snap back.
Speaker Toni Don't worry, continue doing that because I'm always very curious about the drivers of Bluetooth speakers! You're the only that shows them
How did you fix the blinking red light on your zeppelin wireless?
Tripping mate...the zeppelin trounces that other thing
is the highest definition wireless speaker ive ever heard
how do you remove the front grille?
You have to hit the grille from behind on the side at an angle to force it off
I really enjoy your videos. Of course the Silver Phantom is my favorite. I also like B&O.
no question for me the zeppelin sounded better than the copenhagen, and HK better than the Zepp :D
Alexandru Simonescu better than the Copenhagen? Noo
Why does everyone not like Copenhagen haha. I will do more videos of it.
The Go play really has no chance. Maybe it didn't came right in the video.
It could be that in real life they sound different than through mics, our headphones, etc. I'm only basing my opinion on what I hear in the video, also the taste in sound is subjective too
Alexandru Simonescu yes i agree about
This
Alexandru Simonescu I've actually heard The Zep in person in 2016 Before I purchased My JBL Flip 3 at the end of the Year, From "My experience" & knowing how I love Bass within my speakers, Despite the look (Specs are everything)
In general This spear is Extremely Bass boosted, The only way To trust my Fact is to head to a Best Buy that still has Demos out, Take a listen for yourself.
Both Speakers are Great
Hi Toni. Compare more the Zeppelin and the Copenhagen. Both are great. With one you prefer? I think Copenhagen cleaner than b&w and b&w has more bass. I really would like to see the oslo and Copenhagen drivers. Thank you.
Mic sounds good and I enjoy vifa as well for both sound and portability
I can't say this enough: ur accent makes u sound so cuddly and adorable. :-). Thanks for mentioning the klipsch stadium in your last video where u reviewed the best speakers in 2016, and for calling out those videos with bogus reviews that are nothing more than a reading of the spec sheet. I hope at some point u can get ur hands on the stadium. I'd like to know. How it compares to the devialet phantom. The stadium has extremely impressive reviews, even in the bass department.
TruAgape1234 thank you. You are the only one who really likes a German accent, haha.
The stadium is a rather old speaker. The phantom is much louder but the Klipsch might sound more special.
The Stadium is Astonishing!
libeRebil. Yea the reviews on the stadium are extremely good. They say the bass gets down to the mid 20hz region with authority. Have you been able to compare the stadium to the devialet phantom silver or gold?
Unfortunately no. South Africa does not have Devialet. But from what my ears told me. Really sounded like a well sorted proprietary HI FI
TruAgape1234 the Klipsch definitely does not reach down to 20-30 hz like the phantom.
If there something what the devialet can do good it is playing deep bass notes.
I don't think that the Stadium would beat it, just because it is an older model.
Played back video through headphones and a Beolit 17. The Zepplin just sounds incredibly honest, all the sound coming from one flat plane. The bass is incredibly quick/responsive. The Copenhagen is a wonderful speaker but sounds like standing right outside the door of a great concert hall, it's constricted or something. The HK is also good but just not in the same league. That said for 299$ (if you can get one) it is not 400$ less sounding than the B&W. It is better than the Beolit 17 by a hair though. Bang and Olufsen stuff lasts forever too so that's always the reason I go with them. I have a pair of those S3 he has on the table, phenomenal. I also have a pair of Beoplay A9 (spoiled myself when they were on sale), great but not 6K great,
some of the drivers on the vifa are actually aimed upwards you can't see that with the cover on.
Alex BlondAngel but you can hear it when he moves closer, as the mics pick up more sound from the top :)
You really should compare the Zeppelin with the Sonos play:5
Zeppelin is the best, so I bought it!
It's excellent sound I just bought it yesterday, I have many kind brand Bluetooth speakers, zeppelin it's the best one, you won't regret it
the zepp sounds much more rich on high volume than the HK. but on low they are quite alike. The vifa didn't pass the test in my opinion.
Please do comparisons with the Go+Play and JBL Boombox :D
You have mentioned that you have had a chance to use equalizer to improve the bass to 10 dB. Can you tell how it is done? Thanks
Hmmm..... not sure what BW did to you but on my end it sounded better than all the other speakers you put it up against.
Me & You differ Cause any Bass lover Will Pick the Bowers over the other, For in home use that is "Background Bass, Very Punchy" Cause in my opinion Not everyone is Concerned about such Clean Vocals, If that were the case Speakers wouldn't exist, Only (Tweeters) Would be installed XD
Yarmaine Guy oh god. How can you say that. "If you focus on treble and mids you only need a tweeter."
You can't say something like that. "Either you like bass or treble".
The mids need bass to sound full and the bass needs mids for contouring.
Ever heard a tweeter only?
Speaker Toni That's the way you make it sound, Be real If that was the Case They wouldn't have invented Subs look Take The "Nyne Bass" for Example That includes a Sub, Sells for way cheaper on Amazon Surprised me honestly.
& How I Feel you seem to Want perfection in Every Unit, When Majority of People focus on Bass, without Bass what is a Song Really?
Yarmaine Guy the song is nothing. But a song is nothing too.
Thinking like this is so primitiv.
I don't want to insult you but it is true. Subs are invented to get more, better bass. The nyne sounds like shot although it has a sub. Not every sub offers good bass.
They are made to work with the system and not instead of it.
Well Put it this way You have your clean mids & Highs, I'll stick with My average, Bass
Yarmaine Guy it is not about I'll stick with bass and you with treble. If you have a speaker without treble you won't like it.
If you get one without bass you don't like it.
could you compare also zeppelin air vs wireless ??
Zeppelin sounded way better than vifa!!
No the vifa is a lot beter
@@sebastiaanvdberg5934 yes more natural, less aggressive.
I wonder which one would sound better Bowers and Wilkins zeppelin Or my first generation Dr. Dre beatbox 200 W portable stereo it is really really loud with a lot of bass no distortion very very clear very loud Dr.Dre beatbox 200 W
Hi,How do you remove the front cover? Thanks
Carlos Gonzalez Ortega I would like to know too! Did you discover how?
Zepllin have the hifi quality of b and w
Do you have a way to turn on the speaker mask?........ zeppelin wireless
Hey there Tony , any chance of seeing a review or comparison of Harman Kardon Citation 500 , JBL L16, B&O M5, Bose SoundTouch 30, B&W Zeppelin Wireless?
What would you recommend for BT speaker that will fill the room? If B&W isn't the best?
Zeppelin truly sounded better then Copenhagen
Confused as to how one can compare a speaker that costs £600 to speakers which are one quarter it's price?
Can you compare the zeppelin with the t7 as I'm unsure if it's worth spending the extra money on the zeppelin.
can you share with me , how you open the girl on zeppelin
Like everyone else, I believe the BW Zeppelin sounds better. Not sure what' youre missing.
Hi, can you please tell me who sings that Valentine song? can't find it..
which portable speaker have most bass on 400 euro price 40 to 35 hz thank you
could u tell me how long it plays without battery line ?
hmmm... zeppelin sounded better to me maybe im biosed.. :)
I'm totally agree. Zeppelin sounded smoother across the board.
Da krull Y
I would rate zepplin and Copenhagen equal as some type of music may sound better on one and other type on the other.
Harmen kardon was good for the buck though
I play this on my PC. How do I get the sound to my B&W speaker?!
More b&w and b&o speakers ;)
Maciej Kurek q
Hello Speaker Toni, can you please provide some advice ( step by step guide) how to remove that front side textil cover from Zeppelin ? Cant find specific steps how to do it. With older version Air it was easy, but not with this Wireless brother :D
Have you got any answer to your question? As I have the same issue have to replace the fabric.
Is it worth to get the zeppelin wireless nowadays?
How can i remove the mesh on zeppelin, i want to clean it
please tell us how to open this speaker
How to remove the grill without damaging it?
PvM Renz you have to carefully stick a screwdriver in-between the grill and the body.
You'll still need quite a bit of pressure and it might be a little scratched.
Speaker Toni thanks and it snaps back easily?
PvM Renz yes, but you have to apply pressure for this as well and be careful with your fingers getting stuck between the grill as it sits super tight once it snaps back in.
@@Im-over-9000 Hello, could you give a quick run on how to remove the grill? Mine is damaged and I already located a replacement part online but really can't figure out how to remove the original. Is there any screw? Or it's just apply pressure, like disassembling a remote control?
hey toni, i am undecided about buying the zeppelin because i hear drowned mids (male vocals particularly) , some reviewers also mentioned this, since i listen mostly rock this would be a very big deal, what your opinion on zepp mid range equalization? thanks in advance
andres mercado I have the Zepp and can confirm the bass notes throb, the mids are velvety smooth and the highs twinkle. Winner.
How do I adjust bass level on BW zeppelin wireless?
Nice video👍🏻 can you please tell me how did you take the grill off? The cloth on my zeppelin is torn, and I would like to try and fix it. Can't seem to find any tutorials regarding this matter on yt, for this particular model. Looking forward to your reply! :)
I recently bought a zeppelin and i want to take off the grill to hahaha
@@maxcorrea9334 I managed to do it, and it's actually not that hard... you just need to be very patient and careful so you dont damage anything aesthetically. There is no other type of damage you can make (i.e. eith electronics or similar), in my opinion... but of course, I'm not responsible if you do😅
So, I took a guitar pick, and placed right in between where the mesh and body meet.. you want to go as deep as you can with the guitar pick, but not too deep (I went like 5-7mm in). It helps if you have more guitar picks, so you can leave them in place when you separate the grill from the body, and continue working your way around it, without the previuos ones snapping back into place...
So basically, the whole grill is attached to body with clasps all the way around... when you want to put it back, it all snaps back where it should
How does this compare to Marshall?
is the zeppelin wireless better sounding than naim muso qb?
was thinking about buying this speaker but after seeing the comparison between the Go Play in battery mode I probably wont buy it anymore (it really isnt worth the price if it can't convicely beat the Go Play)
AllSeeyingGuy it beats the Go play by a lot. When you want a big loud and bassy sound you can stick with the Go play. For something hi fi and serious go with the Zeppelin.
Depends what music you like to listen. in my opinion go play sounds a little better just with electronic music. BW is better on details.
Hi. Could you post a video or send a short description how did you remove the front cover?
Hi, did you ever find out how to remove the front cover? thanks.
So is the zeppelin better than a hk go & play?
This or Naim mu so qb 2 gen?
Hey Toni, wie hast du einen externen EQ benutzt oder kann man am wireless Einstellungen im sub-menu machen? Reicht der iphone EQ aus oder sollte man nachbessern? Danke
B&W is much better in the review
What was that piano song
Hi, thanks for the great video! I have two zeppelin wireless. You spoke about an equaliser to improve the bass on the zeppelin. I am wondering what software or app you were using to do this? Also do you know how you could have two zeppelins playing at the same time and playing the same track through Bluetooth or airplay? Cheers.
Thanks for a good review. I have noted that the Bowers has a hissing sound on both tweeters and you can hear the sound if you stand next to the speaker. Do you notice this too?
Marc Tobal not really. From how far can you still hear it.
Speaker Toni If I place my ear on both tweeters I hear a hissing sound.
Разве гриль не убирает некоторые сибилянты. Надо было и зэплин оставить накрытым для коренного сравнения.
Zeppelin or Vifa Oslo?
A B.w tem bateria?
You are very mistaken if you think there is no difference in quality between bluetooth and airplay. Airplay definitely sounds better, quite noticeably.
I recorded the same track via AirPlay and Bluetooth with my mics and it sounded the same. AirPlay is just a less convenient and outdated way of connecting to the speaker.
Just read this.
www.audiogurus.com/learn/speakers/bluetooth-vs-airplay/446
Bluetooth isnt always lossless, where as airplay is. Only Aptx enabled bluetooth products are. So in the Zeppelin case there is almost no difference (has aptx) but in other speakers you can tell.
I did a bit more research and found that even aptx enabled devices have light compression. So only airplay is truly lossless.
It doesn’t matter what is lossless in theory.
Bluetooth in speakers in generell have so much “loss” in the audio signal that it almost doesn’t matter what you throw at them.
In most cases (like mine) you can’t even hear any difference.
If you have the newest or a got Bluetooth version there is even no differenc between bluetooth and a wired connection
Binaurale Mikrofone find ich an sich cool. Man kriegt einfach n besseren räumlichen Eindruck. Aber die Qualität ist bei diesen wie du schon selbst gemerkt hast nicht die beste. Wichtig finde ich vorallem, dass der Frequenzgang möglichst neutral ist.
Wobei ich mich frage, ob für die Beurteilung des Auflösungsvermögen und der Klangabstimmung eine Aufnahme mit Kleinmembran-Kondensatormikrofonen mit dichter Positionierung nicht am besten geeignet ist. An die Auflösung von einem guten Kondensatormikrofon mit binauralen Mikrofon ranzukommen wird schwierig, wenn man nicht ein Vermögen ausgeben will. Außerdem wird die Beurteilung bei großen Abstand schwieriger aufgrund der Raumakustik. Aber der räumliche Eindruck ist auch nicht unwichtig und dafür sind binaurale Mikrofone natürlich nicht zu schlagen.
Arne Pusch mit dem Abstand ist es aber am realistischsten. Wie gesagt bei meinen schnellen vergleichen benutze ich Nahaufnahmen!
Ich habe oluv (clavinetjunkie) gefragt und er sagte dass diese Mikrofone abgesehen von dem hohen Rauschen seinen relativ ähnlich sind.
Ich dachte dass ich statt in neue Lautsprecher in das 3dio Xlr freespace investiere.
Was meinst du? Das wäre ja top.
Kenne mich bei den unterschiedlichen binauralen Mikrofonen nicht aus. Sieht aber schon preislich nach was gutem aus. Am realistischsten ist es schon. Aber ich habe nach den Anschauen diverse Speaker-Vergleichs-Videos den Eindruck, dass die Basswiedergabe und untere Mitten ganz gut beurteilt werden kann, obere Mitten und Höhen dagegen sehr schwierig. Ich schätze, das liegt daran, dass Mikrofon und Kopfhörer dann doch einfach zu schlecht sind, um so etwas wie Auflösung eines Lautsprechers präzise darzustellen (und meine HD600 sollten schon zu den besseren Kopfhörern gehören). Daher denke ich, dass hierfür eine nahe Mikrofonierung wenigstens die Raumakustik etwas ausschaltet und die Beurteilung leichter macht. Kann aber auch sein, dass viele eh nicht so genau hinhören, wenn man sich die Kommentare durchliest. Kannst ja mal ein bisschen rumtesten. Deine Videos sind aber so oder so top!
Arne Pusch Dankeschön:)
Naja, die binauralen sind ja dazu da den Raum ein wenig aufzunehmen, da man ja nie in einem reflektionsfreien Raum sitzt.
Arne Pusch die meisten mics lösen in der Tat nicht genug auf, aber für normale Lautsprecher sollte es reichen. Die meisten spielen ja eh nur bis 15-25khz.
Wie du den Deckel abgenommen hast?
Hi. Speaker Toni, can you please let me know how you got out the front grille? Thanks.
Amith Ganesan you need to put a screw driver between the grill and the enclosure
There are several clips holding them together so I’d suggest putting a spacer in the gap and work your way around the grill
@@speakertoni2680 Thanks for your response. Can you please show me where to start? I tried to insert a screw driver in there but it is really form fit! Thanks again.
Amith Ganesan you can start anywhere on the grill as far as I know
You just have to use more force
The enclosure might get scratched a bit
Vifa definitely out shines B&W. The first test was not easy to differentiate the two. But the few after tests. Vifa wins by a huge margin. Vifa is more true to the soundstage and vocal imo
Got goosebumps everytime it switched to the zeplin, that clarity is epic. Zeplin sounds like Eve Audio studio monitors, that’s probably why it does your head in if you listen to it too long lol. Your ears get fatigue. Didn’t like the JBL, sounds muffled like not enough separation between the different sounds.
Hey man, can you please tell me how did you remove the grille? Mine was damaged and I really want to replace it. Is it tricky?
I have the same here, I just picked one up but it fell off of a shelf from the previous owner, the grill is really only held on magnetically, just follow the edges at the fabric, lift gently and it should come away as you circle around it.
@@willsxx1 can you make a video and show us how you do it , thanks man , you are great
@@valenmontessori6445 when I posted that last year i was under the impression that it was that easy, since then i have discovered that my grill was damaged so much that the clips that actually hold it onto the unit were truly holds it on, I am looking into buying a replacement grill now, alas a video would not be much help.
your speaker placements are incredibly strange.
What’s wrong?
got this for 280$ sounds great
Marvin Reyes where?
Speaker Toni here in kuwait, its absolute steal right?
Marvin Reyes such a steal :o
Did you get it new?
Speaker Toni yeah brandnew, watch your review first before i decided to bought it. thanks keep it up..
I wanted this so bad but I bought two S3s instead
JJ Fletcher this thing is different to the s3's.
let's play spot the brit
just bought the zeppelin wireless not too impressed, sounded too flat. Only good feature is the always on standby mode. I'm thinking of the Devialet Phantom Gold.. or maybe the Kef LS50W.. or maybe the Naim Qb ..what do you think?
toni du bist nen cooler typ
Whats that song playing at 23:40 so Beautiful
LilEminemSwindle Im sorry but I honestly don’t know anymore
It was some song from SoundCloud
@@speakertoni2680 it's my funny valentine but by who? It's a famous song many have sung it, I found alot of interesting d music looking 4 it tho thanks
@@speakertoni2680 what playlist were u playing
listen through onkyo pc 150 - bose companion2 s2
if you keep complaining about neighbors than you should either stop testing or find another place. That's not something I want to hear in a testing review
after these years i think u probably had a poor hearing...
bad hearing it is
@@speakertoni2680 nope ,deaf as ****
@@ReVersDC yessir
how did you remove the front cover grille?
It’s quite hard to do
You have to use a screw driver and stick it in between the grill and the speaker
Speaker Toni thank you :)
how about i know is not fair comperation .. but now im hasitating betwen charge3 or b1 .. i want someting smaler with a big surprising sound.. i was considering bose soundlink mini before... but.. mainly couse the design.. im nuts about silver and white.. obsesed about oblivion the movie.. so no surprize i love the phantom look.. but not the price tag.. lol
Da krull Iam testing out the onkyo x6 now. Maybe it's good...
Speaker Toni thanx... wait9ng:)
so quick question charge3 or b1 B&o? :)
Da krull hard to say. Charge is the better Allrounder.
The a1 offers a bit better sound in my opinion.
Speaker Toni thanxx
omg… Im so amazed. Because harman kardon better than the b&w.. ım understand the harman kardon is power after the life...
B&W more clear and balance sound , warm then harman kardon
what is the song at 23:50
Damn you wrote that comment 3 years ago I just asked lmaoo Ig i ain't getting answered
My funny valentine
The question is who was singing it
Ok but how does the B&W compare to the Oslo? The B&W is actually priced lower than the Oslo right now in Canada.
The Oslo has less stereo of course but overall sounds a bit more interesting
Obviously you don’t have 800 diamonds!!
Zeppelin is more detailed than the rest
What hiss !?
no offense, u sound like oluv exactly O.o
I have one and I think its soud is not worth the money.It has no hifi style and like av speaker.Maybe suitable for PC games.
dffgf kikked I think 600 would be fair. The sound is special and actually very good.
Maybe it is suitable in lower price.
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