Direct-Mount Onboard 12 Volt Charger
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- Опубликовано: 26 авг 2024
- In this video I help a lady out who stores her truck over the winter. One of the issues is keeping the battery charged over that time. I install a "NOCO GENIUS2D, 2-Amp Direct-Mount Onboard Charger." This should solve the issue and prevent her from having to start it every month. -Enjoy!
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8th comment on your own video, now that's slacking! LOL
Just kitten ya! Love your videos!😎
Pretty please install those chargers on a spare B+ lug on the fuse block! It's a way cleaner install! No need to trim the B+ cover! That truck already has a loose wire hanging off of the battery terminal, don't add to the rat's nest! Installing on the fuse block and grounding on the body right next to it is the ideal way to handle a battery current sensor!
Battery Tender is a good brand been using it on a motorcycle and big 4.2L Chev Trailblazer no problems. (7+ years)
The Noco is a good unit. I have the 1A portable for my motorcycle and a 3 bank 10 amp unit in my boat that i have had for years. They work really well.
Put one of these on my RV for the winter and it’s been fantastic.
The grandpa line killed me. Good job sir.
Was always told the same ...throw it on a block of Wood ...No Con-crit
Old lead acid batteries were made of rubber which was slightly porous and leaked and would slowly discharge the battery over time. Plastic doesn't do this so no longer a worry.
@@brl5755 I see, but what would the electrolyte care whether it leaks out the tiny pores on wood , concrete or something else? Either way it would go dead,Right' It's an old myth. My uncle said the ground/cement is negative and that's why. LOL
leaking electrolyte on damp floor = making an electrical connection and effectively draining the battery using the floor as the load
@@brl5755 Because the Concrete would pit and corrode (burn) away while wood will just soak the acid. Also acts as a better insulator or so I was told. I dropped a 5 litre jug of Nitric Acid on my legs and concrete floor once. Leg burned, socks distinigrated, shoes bleached white and concrete pitted. Of course got the leg under the water straight away. And the jug ? Had a handle with 1 point at top of jug so it was weak, so got a jug with handle fixed at 2 points so spread the weight further down the jug.
For a minute there I thought Eric O was gonna say "we're gonna test that!"
Hehe, Project Farm
I absolutely started laughing out load when you mentioned the Grandpa saying "Don't ever place your battery on the concrete!" Keep the great content coming!
The "can't set them on concrete" myth doesn't apply anymore. Back in the day they used to be made of Rubber. So if you sat your rubber battery on concrete, it would cause it to leach out acid-- modern plastic batteries don't do that anymore.
Once the battery hits the concrete, it's too dang heavy to pick back up.
@@carolinafirewood No need to wrench your back that hard if you don't have to.
Can we please appreciate the fact that this video about a 12V 2A charger is 12:02 minutes long?
I have used "Battery Tenders" for years and had great success. I use one on my tractor, my classic car and ridding lawn mowers..
Tenders are awesome ive used the on 4 wheelers, motorcycles and cars
Ya, I just have a plain one, nothing special. Hook it up and it works.
I like them because of the standard little 2 pin maintainer connection... Tuck it away somewhere and plug it in when you are ready. No big "wall outlet end" to deal with. Plus you can just get more battery ends and share the tender between your bike, mower, atv, spare battery, etc... And if you're camping or out in the field you can use your tender lead for an easy low current direct tap... Charge phones without having the ignition on.
I use one on my side by side 👍
Got 2 extra years out of a weak motorcycle battery with the Jr model
Battery Tender is the brand I use for my bike and power equipment in the off season. No complaints
I have a Tender too and I was wondering if it's just me but, I don't like to keep the batteries plugged in because the charger keeps cycling. I don't want to "cook" my batteries.
The battery tender on my dual sport is like 15 years old and still works great
I have two, no complaints either
@@scurfie2343 you will only cook the batteries if it charges beyond the voltage that would cook the battery tenders are designed not to do that there designed to cycle and keep there surface charge in check for parasitic draws. So they will cycle to keep them at max efficiency and keep them actually cooler than if they went down discharged, and were dead, or some where in between because that's how you really cook them putting the beans to them at a high amperage when dead which should never be done, but heat and minerals always is there enemy. Always add distilled water to them even on what they call maintenance free batteries.. Tenders are designed for treating batteries with tendering loving care.
@@bigbearvenom6145 Thanks for the info. I have a couple of battery trickle chargers and I will try just keeping them plugged in.
Keeping batteries from going dead on newer cars has really become so important as they can lead to so many problems from loosing memory to no starts
I always drape the extension cord over the side mirror so I don't forget it's plugged in. I've seen too many fellow truck drivers forget this only to ruin the extension cord or worse the block heater.
I used to be a generator mechanic for about 10 years. We used “Battery Tender” brand in place of chargers that have failed. Never had a single issue with any of the BT chargers. I definitely recommend them.
Grandpa told you not to store batteries on concrete because they used to not be sealed units encased in plastic. They had hard rubber cases often laced with layers of paper for asthetics. Anyways, rubber has a different enough thermal coefficient than concrete that you end up with condensation on the battery of the ground concrete under it. This condensation would wick up the paper sides and could expose the acid.
So this exposure to acid and concrete will cause an etching action that also creates a path for electrons to flow discharging the battery over time in the process. From there it is the same as storing a discharged modern battery.
Plastic casing were in use sooner but the sealed or maintenance free battery was invented in the early 70s which negated this cycle.
I'm old enough to remember having to check the water level on batteries and you used to be able to purchase battery acid at the parts store. Most lawn and garden and motorcycle batteries would come with the acid separate for shelf life and you had to fill the battery and charge it before use. This all stems from those fun days.
Nice one, i was wondering if Eric was serious with the comment.
@@timduddy1902 it's hard to say if he was serious or not. With today's sealed maintenance free batteries that have been mainstream for the last 3 or 4 decades, it isn't ever an issue. I'm not sure how old he is but it likely was never a thing while he was old enough to remember and be around cars as more than a passenger.
It's amazing if you think about it. All the little improvements and crap that has came around over a lifetime. I mean I remember when television sets were made of wood (the caseing) and now there are televisions 4 times the size but bearly thicker than two or three layers of the plywood used in the sides of the sets.
You are correct. BUT, try to convince your neighbor it's fine to do so and you will be blue before he agrees!🤨
@@sumduma55 I can remember using a black dispenser to top off batteries. It had a spring loaded nozzle that would fill the battery but not overfill it. That was in the late 50s or early 60s, but I was young at the time. 😂
I use 3 of noco's 5A battery maintainers.
One on my Highway truck (4 batteries, one NOCO) when it's not in use, helps a lot during long cold Canadian winters, keep batteries charged and fresh for those -40 starts (do keep in mind that they will stop charging around -30°C, apparently too cold for them)
Another one on my tow truck, same idea, no issues in winter, and another one on a GMC Sierra, they all start like it's middle of the summer.
Been using them for 4 yrs now, well worth the money.
I'm in Calgary and we just had some below -30C temps. Can I permanently mount my Noco Genius2 (not the 2D model) in the engine compartment of my KIA Sportage, plug it in overnight every night, then unplug and leave it connected to the battery terminals when I drive the car? I saw what you said about the Noco not charging when the temp is below -30C, but above that, it should still work, right?
@@pictyus I recently purchased the Genius2D direct mount. I hadn’t noticed it was rated for up to a 40ah battery. The Interstate battery in my 2015 Camry is rated 66ah. I asked the company if I can direct mount the G5 and they said NONE of their other chargers can be direct mounted because the casing could not handle the engine compartment heat. Apparently the G2D has a heavy duty, high-temp case.
They really do need to make G5D direct mount model.
Being in the military, I have had a few occasions where I had to store a car in a long term parking lot for a few months at a time. These lots tend to not have any power available. Disconnect the battery for the cars that can do that. Otherwise, I've had good luck with a simple 10w solar panel.
I use Battery Tender. The Junior seems to work fine to maintain. Walmart sells them cheap.
Eric I had to laugh when you mentioned grandpa. I heard the same thing from mine.
I went and looked up the battery on concrete is a bad thing, and that is no longer an issue with modern batteries. According to a website that is quoting Interstate Batteries:
To quote Interstate Batteries, “The type of plastic (polypropylene) used in battery cases is a great electrical insulator. Also, tremendous technological improvements have been made in the seals around the battery posts and vent systems, which have virtually eliminated electrolyte seepage and migration. So, it’s OK to set or store your battery on concrete.”
Batteries discharging on concrete is another old wives tale. All lead acid batteries slowly discharge, no matter where they are stored. If a battery discharged, just sitting on concrete,can you imagine how fast it would discharge sitting in a car, on a metal frame, and grounded to the chassis? Concrete does not have conductive abilities to discharge a battery.
Ever since I retired, 7 or 8 years ago, ( used to drive every day before,) I use a 2 amp battery tender, Works great especially in the winter here in Quebec.
I have the exact same model. I love it. It revived a battery that wouldn't hold a charge over night.
Thanks Eric . You reminded me to mount my 2D. I used the 10A model with the desulfator left it on desulfonation mode for 2 days and the battery got hot I am glad I monitored it. The 2d one you have does have the sulfonation mode.
I bought the NOCO Boost HD GB70 2000 Amp 12-Volt UltraSafe Lithium Jump Starter Box, Car Battery Booster Pack, Portable Power Bank Charger, and Jumper Cables For 8-Liter Gasoline and 6-Liter Diesel Engines, so when my battery goes dead I can jump it. I’ve jump started a dead excavator with this thing. Works well.
I installed that exact same NOCO unit under the hood of my old Tahoe since it sits more than it drives. Works like a charm.
Wait a minute, wait just a gosh darn rootin tootin minute here. Are you installing aftermarket products after all the times you said how much aftermarket products suck? :D I get it, do I say not as I do. LOL I had to kid you on this, you keep doing what works for you. :)
He meant poorly installed after market equipment that created problems, or made it difficult to repair problems located near said after market gear. There is a significant difference and your poorly worded joke only made you laugh.
@@kmack282 You were not amused, however will I sleep now worrying about that? ;)
@@Shockedbywater At least it wasn't a plow!
Hah! I agree... but...
Connecting some terminals to a battery that's easily undo-able is waaaay different than the stuff I've found where they butcher the car's wiring harness and/or make a mess like connecting high amp loads to circuits that shouldn't have that load attached.
I don't really have a problem with aftermarket stuff if it's done properly. Like having it's own fusing neatly attached somewhere without mangling the car it's going into. Problem is, most budget shops (car audio installation shops can be bad for this) won't go to that extent. As my grandpa always told me: If you're going to do a job, do it properly or not at all.
I thought the same ;)
i have used the NOCO Genius G4 4-Bank Smart Battery Charger for about 8 years and it works great for my motorcycles. It is a good idea for anyone to charge their battery over night every month or so in the winter if they don't drive much or just drive short trips.
Just got the 1amp NOCO Genius ! Staying away from "Battery Tenders Brand" keeping my truck NAPA Legend Charged ! Great Deal ! Thank you ALWAYS !
I use a solar powered battery tender for my barn...works great. I always disconnect the battery in the winter to prevent any parasitic draw.
I had been using battery tenders, but got a 2 bank Genius for a vehicle with 4 batteries in a parallel/series arrangement, and I was really impressed with its performance and quality. They have a large range of amperage, multi bank options, desulfate mode, temp compensation... will buy again.
For my four "classic" cars, I actually have 2 wall mount and 2 of these exact Nocos. Much better than buying batteries so often. Price is fair, product works well design is great. While I could disconnect the negative lead on the classics, sometimes they sit for 6+ months...
Great video as usual!
Do you keep it plugged in the battery with a charger for a long time, like for months or so
@@Dr1Salmansure. Four of my cars go barely 300 miles a year so, they stay hooked up. Noco kicks on and off as needed to maintain proper voltage
I have the same one for my 2019 Mustang I store most of the time, just drive it now and again in the summer months and I love this little charger
My pickup sits for long periods time. I added quick connect leads to the truck battery, as well my lawn mower, and snowmobiles. I can easily move the maintainer between batteries as needed.
I installed the very same charger/maintainer on my V10 Super Duty, that sits for long periods of time. Seems like it works flawlessly so far. I kept a close eye on it, for the 1st couple days, watching for over charging. But it goes into stand-by mode and only works when needed. My battery is in the front right corner of the engine compartment so I velcroed the charger to the front of the battery and ran the 110 cord out to the grill, just like the diesel's have for a block heater.
I hate dealing with batteries that’s how the holes in jeans thing was started 🤷♂️
many years ago now I had a new battery that I had to fill with the acid mix, didn't notice until a few days later when I washed my jeans and they were full of holes! Thought I had a mouse until the penny dropped.
I carried one in ruck sack once as mine was dead a walked to parts store rookie mistake it leaked an burned a few holes in the back of my jeans lol
I used a 30w solar panel set in the SW window and an inexpensive charge controller. This worked great for the past 3 years on a car that gets less than a 1,000 miles per year.
Just happened across this video after I installed this charger on my JD 3720 tractor yesterday. Definitely am a fan of it after I let a battery go flat on it - stopped driving and I had to recalibrate the drive controller. Not horrible to do, but wasted half a day figuring out what was wrong.
Love your videos! Definitely always learning new stuff from you!
I have that one on my Durango. So far it works like it should. I have only had it about 2 months.
Finally can give info to eric o,
Older battery cases were not made of plastic, wood and things like if i recall, but due to the materials the battery's discharged when on the ground as i think it had a easier ground but since plastic battery casings this is no longer a issue
Yes the "don't set it on concrete" idea was for early rubber cased batteries.
@@DarkFlamage thank you buddy, couldn't quite remember 👍
I made one of these for my cadillac that sits all the time. Works great. Pretty simple little device. Thanks for sharing E!
With the advent of the 'Rona, I had a very similar problem ... too many vehicles, not near enough usage... So, I bought a Noco maintainer that looks to me, just like the one you installed... might be a slightly different model because there was a battery type selection process I had to do on initial startup, (it remembers after that). Anyway, permanently installed it in my Lexus, battery in trunk, and I liked it so well, I got another one, but with alligator clips because the boat battery comes out of the boat in the fall and sits on my bench in the garage and it has the big lead posts. Noco says that not only do their chargers maintain voltage, but can also de-sulfonate a battery using some pulsing charge method that I do not really understand, but Noco says it, so it must be true!
Been using Noco products for some time. Very good quality.
Yes, they've been in business since 1914 & are well thought out line of chargers that are well engineered ; wire jackets are thick yet flexible & pliant, the spring loaded terminal clips are far superior to most as they are slimmer & fully jacketed on the outside to prevent shorting. They provide a quick coupler with a good weather snap seal that can be easily used with gloves & a line of add on accessories: extra long extensions & eylet, cigarette lighter plug option. I own a couple of them & the feature I like is that when the circuitry detects a low voltage of below 8 or 9 it will still charge the battery unlike some cheaper ones that will not initiate a charge untill you bump up the voltage a tad. (If you come across an antique solid state , non micro chip battery charger at a garage sale grab it as it will help out in a low voltage / no charge situation with today's "smart" circuitry. )
For motorcycles, small implements the Battery Tender brand is a good choice although they have been cheaping out somewhat on the materials the last few years.
The CTek brand are excellent quality but a bit overpriced.
If you chose to remove a few implement/ motorcycle batteries & bench store them over the winter in a heated spot NOCO offers a model that will charge 4 at the same time to leave your other electrical receptacles in your shop freed up.
As a bonus the boxes they come in are well made ,much like a wooden matchbox secure slide design with thick cardboard unlike 90٪ of the packaging these days, they are designed to store/ stow away the charger quite nicely.
I too have been using Noco battery maintainers for years on both my motorcycle and lawn tractor (which is stored for the winter here on the east coast). They work well.
Using the ctech charger on my dodge 🐏 the last 2 years works great super idea for keeping it going
Ctek is way more expensive than NOCO. Jay Leno uses Ctek chargers on the cars in his garage. I have a Ctek Multi XS 25000 which I like but I prefer the NOCO genius.
@@jameskoralewski1006 Not only are they expensive they're no better than many cheaper brands. But they fool some people with flashy but ultimately pointless gimmicks.
I have a Genius 5 connected to one of our rarely used cars and so far so good.
Had battery tenders on my boat and drag car. Both fired up no problems every spring. Both were outside under tarps in Indiana winters.
Looks like a nice little maintainer! Thanks for the video, Eric!
hope you had a great easter . very wet here east coast australia at present
sure is - still raining now. I'd say for last 10 Easters it has rained for 8 of them.
Count your blessings. We have tulips popping out of the ground, then at Easter it snows on them.
the little battery post disconnect switches are also great for pre-computerized era cars, grandpa would approve, and no lifting in and out of cars onto the wood block
Great Idea. Especially for cold winters. You are so right about all the crazy stuff that needs the battery or the car won't run.
Hey Eric! I have been using one of these NOCO genius chargers to maintain my batteries and love them, they have a battery restore feature that actually brought my battery back to life that was on the way out. Before this, I just had a generic manual charger which I may have left on 10A for too long and did some damage. Anyways, great charger and good choice! I didn’t know they made one that can be mounted in the car like this, but if it is anything like mine, it will be great.
Battery tender brand makes an item, I have the “battery tender junior”. I assume they make a non-junior version too. It has a positive and negative lead and a disconnect halfway down the wire and on the other end is a box to plug directly into the wall. The junior supplies 12 volts to my motorcycle at 750 mA during the winter. Highly recommend!
Nitpick: it doesn't supply 12V. It's designed for a 12V battery, but a 12V lead acid battery at full charge is above 12V, which means that if the tender were at 12V, electricity would be flowing *from* the battery, *to* the tender. The tender likely outputs a bit over 13V in "float" or "maintenance" mode.
@@JohnRunyon ok. 12.7
Battery tenders are great for storage, used on on my motorcycle for years. With the crappy fuel these days, diesel or gas, don't forget a fuel stabilizer if it'll be stored for more than a couple weeks.
Love watching the test drive footage on these videos, especially the winter ones. Having grown up in Canandaigua - I don't miss the snow.
I've seen a charger connected directly to battery cause "BMS" (battery management system) freak out on some cars, but when the charger's ground was connected to vehicles chassis, it has worked fine without any issues. Just my 2 cents
You know the vehicle chassis is directly connected to the battery, right?
@@wgmskiing no shit. Some cars with BMS it can even monitor the ground connection
Another Battery Tender long term user here. My OG is over 20 years old and still works like a champ for winter storage of the summer car.
Thanks for the video Eric. I use a battery tender on my motorcycle and a Guest 3 bank on the fishing boat. The boat sits far more than anything and the batteries have held up great!
A battery tender is a good idea if you park outside in the eastern winters.
I used to use battery tenders until the NOCO genius came out. The tenders are cheap and very basic but they are better than nothing. The NOCOs have more sophisticated and improved maintenance circuitry. You get what you pay for.
@@jameskoralewski1006 I have had horrible luck with NOCO.... 4 different units and all failed to charge/maintain a motorcycle battery, one even killed my battery in my "summer" car. I've never had that issue with my Battery Tenders. Not sure if I just had the worst luck and all four were bad from the get go... but I won't waste my money on NOCO ever again.
@@kurtblackwell6214 All I can tell you is that I never had any problems with Noco products. Also, the battery tenders do not have desulfation circuitry and NOOO does.
I use "Battery Minder" on my motorcycles. They have a little pigtail that sticks out so I can use one on several bikes or even the car.
Had the little noco charger on my old corvette for several years and it still does its job.
Here I am watching you install after market dudas and I'm remember someone's rant about how much he hates after market dudas
I've been using battery tender for years I trust them.
I've used a battery tender Jr for years and it's always done a great job. I've got a hard-lead attached to each bike and I just use the included clamp lead in winter on the Mustang. I just unplug one vehicle and plug in a different one every few weeks - the cord on the thing is crazy long, easily been worth the 25 bucks or whatever it cost.
I have also done the same. My lawnmower battery was always dead, even though it was on a battery tender. Bought a new battery and it was going dead also. Found out the tender was discharging the battery. The battery tender was several years old. The old mower battery recovered nicely with my new battery tender.
@@robertheinkel6225 Interesting. So far, so good, but that's something to keep an eye on.
@@kellyrjohnson7693 Get a couple more of them so you don't have to play musical tenders. I have 4 in service all winter and I never have to worry about swapping them around. Every spring, everything just starts because the damn things work, as you already know. Even the Juniors will maintain a car battery, and they're only $25 on Amazon.
I'm suspicious of my Bat Ten , i think it killed a good battery . 240 bucks to replace it.
After 35 years as a technician, my dream retirement job is to go to work for a car manufacturer and work in their R&D department. All I would do all day is say "No!" No. No. HELL no!" Today's vehicles are over-engineered junk in my learned opinion. Too much computerization with no redundancy. Garbage.
Absolutely I agree. Brings to mind the phrase if it's not broke don't fix it. All this push for electric cars and we have an electrical grid that still needs a lot of work so let's put more strain on it 🙄
"Planned Obsolescence"
I bought one from advanced auto , had it a year and no issues , works great, and it won't break the wallet. I do recommend it
BatteryMinder are some of the best chargers out there. NH Northern puts them on sale around the end of the year for $24 bucks(normally $48). I have 4 of them on my farm equipment and another on my plane. They don't over charge the battery and extend its life. That's really important for the plane because that sucker costs $900 ! Last battery lasted 9 years which is twice the expected life of an aviation battery.
If it's outside I use one of those solar chargers that plug into the cigarette lighter. If it's inside I use one like the one you used but I put the plug in the grill so I don't have to open the hood.
I was going to try that but on my wife's Peugeot, the cigarette lighter socket is only live when the ignition switch is either on or in the accessory position. Not very thief-proof having to leave the keys in the ignition. 😈
Any models that work well? Been wanting to get one for my old truck that sits outside a lot.
@@interdiction2 the one I picked up on Amazon has 2 different plugs one for the cigarette lighter and one has alligator clips for the battery
@@douglasjreynolds the one I bout at harbor freight I have been using in my shed for the riding mower. In 5 years I haven't had to jump the mower.
@@scotthewitt6047 Thanks for that, I'll take a look. 👍
I like NOCO products quite a bit. They make some fine jump packs.
When Grandpa was pup battery cases were someone porous and could lose voltage on concrete. That hasn't been true for many decades now and concrete is a fine place to store batteries - cool and dry. I have a "BatteryMinder" on-board maintainer in my "retirementmobile" that doesn't get out much, what with Covid and all. Like the NOCO you installed, it keeps my battery happy and ready to go.
It will go solid "green" when it's fully charged. I have one on my snowblower, sierra, quad, and rv. They do a great job. I have them from a couple of different manufacturers and no issues with any of them. My sister has bought two batteries for her Mazda because it sits for extended periods. General motors claims they do not guarantee their sierra's to start after 22 days because of the parasitic draw. I bought my truck new 2017 end of year and when we tried to start it battery was dead. They only ran it around the lot for snow removal and not enough to keep the battery charged. Love your vids.
Hi Eric, I have eight street vehicles. I use a Battery Tender on each of them.
Your street must be pretty big.
@@paulparoma Only the garages need to be big :). I am remiss in not using battery tenders on my dirt vehicles!
@@loua695 Nothing like being remiss in the dirt dept.:)
I have some that I bought from Harbor Freight and they seemed to work just fine.
A big + on Deltran Battery Tenders . My use was on motorcycles I gave a couple to a friend who owens motor cycles to classic cars . He has have multiple classic cars 6 and 12 volt. They all live in a garage with tenders on all. 100% satisfied. No issues at all.
I have an old car I only drive a few months of the year and have used "The Battery Tender" for years. It does a very good job of keeping the battery at full charge, never had a problem.
SMA and spring! What can be better? Thanks Mr. O !
Love the AVE references in your video
Needed one for wife's mercury mountaineer as she rarely drives it. after watching this, ordered this one. installed it today. Thank you 😊
update. 9 months later, the little float charger is doing great 👍
I love your critique of the commenters. You know the complainers so well. They must be the ones who’s phone calls you never return.
2D, it's for batteries that are 'flat'
"2D, or not 2D, that is the question...."
underrated comment
Always found Ctek chargers work well for long term storage. Slightly more expensive but very good.
Rona has me working from home and driving so little I got a Noco Genius 1 about 2 months ago. It's been great. First time I hooked it up it took about 5 days before the light went from red to green. Now when I throw it on after a drive the battery is topped off within an hour. Definitely recommend.
Love your work & knowledge, reminds me of my father, who could fix anything, lucky for me and my brother, both inherited the trait, not as good as him, but
we can work our way out of most anything, we grew up in a small town in northern Alberta & back then we worked on the old stuff, like trucks, cars, combines, tractors etc. The only electronics we knew was the points, condenser, and spark plugs. Of course, things changed and we adapted to the original electronic ignition, then the throttle body injectors, then when that era ended, all hell broke out & all this crap started happening & it gets worse every year, so I really admire you're calmness and persistence to not rip off the customer, but your knowledge awe's me, one of our sons (we have seven children between both of us & 10 grandchildren by July) is a very good computer tech, running his own business, he's about your age maybe? He,s 40. I made that assumption by your greying hair, he's slowly balding too, but no gray hair? I'm trying to get him to watch your channel, cause he's a cheap bugger & likes to fix his own shit, but when he does, he wants the best parts, I think it's a break from his work?
I’ve heard mixed reviews on the noco stuff, hopefully that turns out to be good
Surprised he didn't get it free as demo since the company shills them so hard.
I used one of their boost packs to start my truck every single day for a year before I could afford a new battery. ANd also new battery cables... That lipo was fully drained every two days with 1-2 starts a day. And I'm in Alaska. It starts a 100% dead truck at -60F. Their shit's good enough.
@@MeepChangeling how much did the booster pack cost compared to just buying a new battery? Seriously, if you have a truck you don't have to run the exact make and model manufacturer recommends. You can often fit an oversized higher CCA batter in a more popular group size that's cheaper.
No you haven't.
@@deanbarrett7180 lol
Hey SMA your channel is awesome, and so are you and your fam. If I’m ever in your area I’m gonna bring my 97e250 to you since you are the rust champion. Happy belated Easter.
I to myself have a couple cars sitting and 🚜 . I have a battery maintainer on the tractor 🚜 and works great ill see if I can find out maker and comment again. Good to see ur still making videos . Look forward to them ... mean it .
I know most people wouldn’t do what I did but for the ones I don’t daily I put on a battery quick disconnect switch and it works wonders. In the past I had to jump the same vehicle with a deep cycle and now I don’t have that issue.
"Unboxings are stupid" - I couldn't agree more!
I like the smell of new plastic devices just as they are removed from a box. Mostly camera lenses.
@@stoneblue1795 Oooof. I haven't been able to afford a new lens for a couple of years :-( I'd really like to afford something around 500-600 mm. Preferable out of mostly glass and metal.
But I'm quite sure that what Eric referred to was unboxing videos.
that's a nice mouse bed that the battery is wrapped in
mouse condo
NOCO usually performs well. Had their jump starter for a few years . Great quality. My longest lasting jump box yet
I've got 3 of the Noco's and a couple of Battery Tenders. All of my cars have AGMs, in fact the Yellow top in my 94 Impala SS was bought in 2008 and has been on a Battery Tender all of it's life when it isn't driven and the battery is still working fine. Now watch it'll take a dump now that I've bragged about the life. :~)
"Amazon Basics stuff is awesome" careful stuff is commonly recalled.
Amazon basics is leftovers & scrapings; if there's overproduction of quality gear, then it's fine. But when demand rises...
All I have is old cars so I just disconnect the batteries lol.
You should never let a lead-acid battery just sit without a charger connected. This is a sure way to kill your battery.
@@jameskoralewski1006 in a perfect world yes, however there is always going to be a minute amout of parasitic draw. That helps out in the long run
@@jameskoralewski1006 I have disconnected lead acid batteries over the winter for years now and haven't had to replace them until past their expected life so in theory maybe you're right but in practice I don't think it's as big of an issue as you make it sound
@@jameskoralewski1006 that's primarily because some amount of power will be drawn out *when it is connected*, which will lead to it becoming significantly discharged, which will lead to it dying.
Parasitic drain is not the only issue here. Lead acid batteries *must* be charged regularly or they will drain and die. Even a new battery that's been sitting on the store shelf for 6 months will be substantially drained and have a reduced lifespan in your vehicle.
This is partly why the "sitting on concrete" joke was appropriate here, as people used to think that the electricity "leaked" out into the ground/concrete or something, but in reality it never mattered where the lead acid battery was sitting; if it sits, it dies. Disconnecting your batteries will remove any parasitic draw, but they will still die within a a few months to a year, depending on how healthy they are to begin with.
Lead acid batteries are/were a good solution for starting IC engines as they can provide lots of current for a short period and the lead can be perpetually recycled, *but* they only work if they are maintained via regular driving or routine charging. Whether it sits on a shelf or on the concrete, a disconnected lead acid battery is a dying battery. Like most babies, they have to be fed regularly or they die.
I just bought a NOCO Genius5 maintainer and hooked it up to my '69 AMX. Did the job. It even works with 6-volt batteries. The only device that draws any juice with the engine off is the clock.
I had an Auto Meter battery maintainer on my Camaro's for years, and they are worth every penny. Mine just had a hookup off the battery, and plugged into a cable from the actual unit, which was exterior to the car. Once you snaked the hookup outside the engine compartment, you never had to open the hood to charge the battery. Perfect!
Wow! I am here with only 1 view! I'm going to screen shot this for proof! It's the truth I tell you! :-)
I was # 54,786!
Put a similar maintainer from Harbor freight on our church van. 10 years and still works great!
Amen!
I usually drive only once a week, so one of those trickle chargers has been very useful. Mine came with quick-connect terminals, so there was no need to install it in the car. I just hook it up whenever needed. Got it on eBay for less than $30 about 5 years ago, and it works well.
Had mine for 7 years now and I never had a problem it works awesome
I put one of these on my 2003 Silverado over a year ago. Still works great. Just gotta remember to plug it in.
I use a battery maintainer I purchased from Northern Tool several years ago to make sure my diesel generator battery stayed fully charged. It works very well. It maintains over 13 volts and the generator starts every time. It does a function ,running test once a week for 30 minutes, not really enough to keep the battery charged. The battery is over 5years old and works very well.
Used a Battery Tender - at some point the battery 'exploded' - at least the case was trashed and acid was gone. Ever since I have been using a 'motorcycle' batter charger that is connected to a 24 hour timer that is turned on and off for the minimum time that the timer will allow on a daily basis. This has been working successfully for the past 15 years.
I have been using Noco genius chargers for the past 6-7 years, now have 5 of them, one is a 24V the rest 12V, never had any issues, they do a great job. I use them on all the equipment that isn't regularly being used, a whole lot easier than doing the manual work moving around a normal charger plus saves a whole lot on the battery cost in the long run.
When batteries are first made, the are charged up and put on a shelf for a month before they go out of retail. The check the charge loss over the month. If it was in spec, the send it for sale. After which they can set on a shelf for years. Best course of action, find a date sticker on the battery for the newest date.
AZ sells battery tenders and smart chargers like that for that specific reason. I wouldn't be surprised if the other places did to.
For 15 years, I disconnected the 2 batteries on my 1989 Ford Econoline motorhome in October, re-connected in May and Boom, she started everytime, except once. The main battery died on me just once over the years. For over 15 years, when I reconnected the battery in May, the engine started immediately every time. I always changed the motor oil, and put Gas Stabilizer in the gas tank, before storing for winter.
I've used Battery Tenders for as long as they've made them. Good product.
Noco is a wonderful product. They back their products as well. You can’t go wrong by installing that on any vehicle.