Will This New Kawasaki ELIMINATE The Honda Rebel 500?!
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- The brand new 2024 Kawasaki Eliminator is finally here, BUT is it really here to "eliminate" the Honda Rebel 500 or is it just a subpar Rebel 500 copycat? The nearly identical specs of the two bikes points to a blatant copycat, but my first test ride may have given a different answer...
So, what do YOU think about the new Eliminator 450? Are you picking the Kawasaki or sticking with the tried and true Honda Rebel?!
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I like the classic style of honda rebel more than kawasaki and that orange color of cowl not my type. Specswise they are almost the same.
*Passenger seat = pillion.*
Very kool comparison on them, I mean they've almost shared the same bucket of paint here.... these are so close that I wonder
if there's not an inside thing going on like them sharing w/ each other instead of opposing one another? I can't prove anything
like that but it's amazing how close the two are on the specs, almost like someone quit & went to work for the other, huh?
So I guess I'll watch the rest of your fine report here & thanks for the work. peace
I'm brand new to riding and I actually picked this bike up as my first. I've been watching Burch for a while now and really thought I'd go with a rebel but comparing the two the eliminator felt a lot better in the saddle and ergonomics. I bought the pearl grey version and on that color the frame is more of a polished nickel and in my opinion it looks way better than the SE color scheme. Loving the bike so far and it's a lot of fun to ride but yes the stock exhaust and mirrors are abysmal (but the easiest thing to modify).
I’m getting mine deliver tomorrow!! Same one pearl white felt like the best bike in the place , was about to get the mt03 but went for this when I sat on one
how much it cost you?
The one thing anyone looking to,buy the eliminator over the Rebel 500. The insurance is going to be alot more, because the Rebel has been around so long there are a lot of used parts to buy if you wreck the 500, the repair shop can find used parts, whereas the Eliminator has to,have new parts. Also there are literally millions of aftermarket parts for the Rebel whereas there will be nothing available for the eliminator for quite some time.
I personally think it looks better than the Rebel. With that said I still think these are overpriced especially when you look at how many cheap materials they use. Sure it'll run forever because the engines are solid, but the big 4 in my opinion are complacent on the beginner segment, which is allowing companies like CFMoto and RE to come in and offer more premium features at better prices.
I find the bike very ugly, the old eliminator 250 was much better concerning design!
I would not consider RE more premium than the Eliminator. The RE Interceptor is as basic as you can get. And the Eliminator definitely outperforms it.
I just tested a Super Meteor 650 here in San Diego last Saturday Nov 4th and afterwards put a deposit on one. Should arrive in Late December or early January God willing.😎
I looked at one yesterday and was really impressed and didn’t feel cheap at all unlike the cf’s that feels like you’d expect from a China bike. I’m actually thinking of trading my tiger 900 in on a eliminator and a KLX 300.
I started out wanting the Rebel. Sat on it and Eliminator with abs. The Eliminator just felt better and I bought mine a little over a week ago. I love it and having a blast! I love the piwer and handling. I hate the mirrors. Going to have to putreal ones on there, SOON!
I was shopping for a bike and I went and looked at the rebel first. Being short (5'4), I felt like I was leaning way too far forward and I didn't like that. When I turned the bar, I had to lean way too far to ever comfortably turn it because my arms are so short.
I looked at the eliminator next and I loved it. The seat was extremely comfortable and I didn't lean forward as much. So, I got the eliminator and it was the best decision I've made.
I really appreciate this. I’m 5’2” and comparing models right now. The eliminator is the top of my list and I’m checking one out this week!
I just bought the eliminator and pick it up tomorrow. I'm 5'4" also and it fit like a glove. Can't wait to ride it off the lot!
@@susanl3136 You're going to have a blast! You're not going to regret it!
@@Jeanniebeannie2 I hope not! I'm in western NC, lots of fun mountain roads. Can't wait!
@@crisy0728curious as to your findings as my wife is also researching both and is approximately 4’9” and 90 lbs
I wish Kawasaki would adopt the 270 degree crank. It would provide a slightly better torque curve and much better sound. That was my main gripe about the Vulcan S. It was just too smooth. Besides that it's a Kawasaki and they make things that last forever.
Kawi is probably tied with suzuki for the worst reliability out of the jap brands. Where suzuki can't make chains or stators, kawi can't seem to stop their engines from exploding.
That’s the only trouble with all the kawi in-line twins. I also had Vulcan S. it did have bit of vibration at 3500rpm. Sounded bit boring compared to my buddy’s fz07 Yamaha.
At this point there’s so little bikes that have a 180 degree crank that the kawi twins r officially “unique” xD
Indeed the 180 crank Ptwin is my least favorite motorcycle sound.
They should have stuck an inline 4 back in it like the original.
Love the looks of the eliminator, does remind me of the vrod. Hope they decide in the future to compete with the rebel 1100 and drop an eliminator 1000cc+
The original was one of the muscle bikes of the 80s.
Yeah and the original was 900cc so makes sense to bring back a big bore version.
@@ryanmg02I have a 96 600 eliminator
Would that be to head to head with the Vulcan 900? Maybe make the Eliminator more sporty and vulcan more “cruisy?”
I think a bunch of the things you pointed out that you didn't like about the looks are specific to the SE. The non-SE models have a better looking frame (a no gloss grey color), and the painted plastic triangle is color matched to the tank. They also don't have the weird USB-C.
1 foot charging cables are a thing, no need to wrap a 3 foot around handlebars. By the time you factor in the connectors on each end they are like 8 inches and perfect for on the bike . I have one for quad lock charger.
I use a coiled, right angle USB charging cable on my bikes. The coil keeps the cable nice n short with stretch when needed. The end that plugs into the phone is a 90 Degree, so it keeps it nice and tucked.
Well…I have to say : this Kawa looks really good.
He didn't pull out on you. You came flying around the corner and he was already entering the roadway from approach. Maybe you should slow down before u gripe. You took the right turn at the intersection doing 30mph.
Yea I saw that too..i knew what that driver was doing before Burch even started talking. No big deal, let the driver go, he was already pulling out. The van though, yes definitely pulled out into his lane
I was not familiar with how closely it matches the Honda Rebel. I needed a motorcycle to go past traffic here in PH, because of narrow and less road upkeep lots of sand on roads and potholes here. Needed to get off my Vulcan 900 and on something to avoid sitting behind long lines of cars and creeping along. Plan was to buy the Eliminator 450 SE this week.
How did it go?
Not gonna lie I'm not a fan of the eliminator
Bikes with too much electronics means running into more problems down the road, same with cars. The less electronics the better and the less problem's you deal with. All the USB plug in and other stuff ain't for me, I prefer a nice low cruiser like the Honda Rebel compared to the Kawasaki.
everything you hated about the look of the bike I liked lol. I think the bike looks alot better than the rebel, also, the gloss plastics made sense to me since the tank and fender were also gloss so having a few of the plastics gloss as well balanced out the look to me. for the rebel, everything is matte but the tank and fender and to me it looks weird. also, if you ever get the chance i would love to see you do a review on the vulcan 650s, I'm planning on going for that for my first bike. the vulcan s apparently is easy to customize the seating position.
I have a Vulcan S, the way to customize the seat position is to get a different seat from the dealer and swap it. Some reviews made it seem like the seat and foot pegs could just be moved around for free and it’s unfortunately not the case.
Except the handlebars. They can be tilted toward or away easily.
It’s still a great bike, if you get one I hope you’ll enjoy it!
awesome thank you!@@jackisoutside
Looks why better than the rebel. Burch is coping with that fact, thats all.😂
The 'custom fit' is free on a new 650s bike. Don't leave the dealership until you have tried the different options and told them which you want. When I bought mine I had to explicitly ask to try the different options. I'm a shorter rider, so the difference was way more comfortable.
Looks twice as good as a Rebel. Let the good times roll!
I agree. I hear a bunch of cope on this video. Rebel boys are hating😂.
That's not saying much.
@@jaycounts4717 You must own a Rebel. Same quality, same performance, looks better. I'd rather have the Kawi.
No I don't and don't want one, the new bikes are about as pretty as a house with the framing on the outside, IMO the high water mark for motorcycle design/looks was the 80s. they were clean and simple, tires, fenders, gas tank, seat, engine and battery cover and that was it.@@MotoXplor
Honda is probably the foremost Japanese manufacturer when it comes to styling cohesiveness. Yamaha takes some time to gel a concept visually together, 3-5 years, Suzuki maybe 5-6 years, but Kawasaki takes forever because they just suck in the aesthetic department, it's as if they don't even care, they just pump out some Japanese-ness and the fan base will cope. They know how to make a functional bike, no doubt about that. If we were all blind they might be the most praised of the main makers, but, we are not. To me, their attempts at every level of Harley-fication have been total failures. The Honda Rebel is a thing, an identifiable thing, with one look at it you see several design cues that actually work together and that are unique, yet they form something considerable as a cool unit. One look at the Kawasaki Eliminator, two looks, fifty looks later and it's still the same ''WTF is that?'' that you had from look number 1. It is design soup, aesthetic vomit. It is masculine at all the wrong points and feminine at all the wrong points, long where the eye expects short and vice versa, Like, again, what the absolute f were they smoking? Honda doesn't do that kind of dump on their potential customers, they take the time to put a ''whole package'' together. Kawasaki just rummages through the waste bin of drawings while huffing gas fumes and browsing tentacle porn.
This
If the rebel had a tach it would be the clear winner imo...
I'm an old guy that wanted smaller and lighter and not forward controls. I've been looking at the Eliminator for several months, so I just bit the bullet and mine will be delivered tomorrow. My daughter has the Rebel 500.
Ill have to check one out, but just on looks alone my Shadow might be in trouble if they made a 1000+ version of this.
They did have the Eliminator 1000 from 1986-90, who knows perhaps they'll bring it back. 🙂
The Kawasaki looks like a hornet. Cool.
F̶i̶r̶s̶t̶ second again! I was checking out that Eliminator a couple of weeks ago. I think it might be a great middleweight cruiser and commuter. I'm trying to decide between the Eliminator and one of the Royal Enfields... either the Hunter 350 or the Scram 411. 🤔👍 --QM
Ooo Adam beat you by mere SECONDS! 😳🤯
If you take a shot every time this guy says chintzy you'll have alcohol poisoning by half way through the video.
The 500 Rebel is more like a Harley Sportster and that's what I feel it was designed to compete with!
Sportster is only sporty in the name, it's not sporty to ride in the slightest
I'm sure that the Kawasaki is a fine motorcycle and all, but the only thing it is missing is that it is not a Honda. Honda engines are bullet proof and overall, there is not a better bike than a Honda.
Me do like
I am WAY too big for the Eliminator and the 180 degree crank just doesn't have adequate soul. I think it is a much better looking machine than the Rebel. That camel hump fuel tank on the Rebel is not my thing and probably the only real reason that I don't already have a DCT Rebel 1100. Also, LCD gauges just scream bargain basement. Give us TFTs or better yet proper clocks. I have a '21 W800 and it had the same issue with the mirrors. WTF Kawai?
I didn't rode the Eliminator but the 500 Rebel and the SCL 500. The SCL is by far better than the Rebel in every aspect. Although im just 5.7 high, the SCL has the much better seating position.
I don't like the Eliminator and the built quality seems to be cheesy.
So go for the SCL.
Agreed 100%! Out of the 3 bikes, I’m picking the SCL500 ALL DAY!! It’s just so well put together, the best seating position of the three, and the most capable of the group with the off-roading capabilities 🙌🏻🤘🏻
@@LifeOfBurchLike your videos man! I know that it's a different style of bikes, but comparing eliminator and scl 500 in acceleration and top speed, what is your comment? Is the eliminator more zippy than csl 500?
Thx for the answers.
Regards from Serbia!
I sold my vulcan coz I got heavy and my belly is pushing on the gas tank when my leg is cruched on that forward controls/pegs. I got an eliminator and it works really great on my weight and Im really comfortable with the seating position. It has enough power for daily freeway commute as well. The best motorcycle I have so far interms of my weight (198lbs) ht 5'9.
Vulcan...
Eliminator...
both are weird.. a touring? a cruiser? dunno men.. i dunno..😑
I will wait for the Eliminator 900.
I think both bikes are a good idea in many respects, but they really need to get new styling people because neither are what I'd call pretty.
If it doesn't leak oil and cost $1000. to fix its already a better bike.
The eliminator looks better in my opinion. The rebel gas tank always looked like a beluga whale to me
Bro, how do you feel about the mirrors? I don’t think you mentioned it…don’t hold back and say what you feel. 😜
I want that klx 300, I would trade thses three for the 1 klx over there hiding
It's a disposable motorcycle. The Honda will be around LONG after that thing is in the scrapyard
Kawasaki also makes a quality bike. Watch this reviewers other videos on his own Honda’s - he has had problems with his own Rebel 1100 and Navi. My buddies 2022 Rebel 1100 with 3000 km is eating oil. 6:04
Thanks for the review, Burch. It looks like a fun ride.
I don't want anything to do with the new Honda Rebels.
I'm only buying the old classic Honda Rebels from now on.
I like mine and love the spoked wheels and simplicity, and that parts are ubiquitous.
Stwpidest decision in Honda History to switch up the design and still call it a Honda Rebel. I have nothing against their new bike, but... call it something different, give it it's own name, because it's no Honda Rebel. And keep making the Classic Coke. Because I don't want the New Coke.
DaD BURN ❤️🔥
YOU SOUND LIKE A FUN PERSON
I HARDLY EVER SEE A LADY ON A MOTORCYCLE IN MISSISSIPPI AND THAT IS SAD 😭
I promise you it's faster and gets to 100 plus than a rebel or that scl 500!!!
i wish the japanese restart to make more cruiser, in all form with v twin and inlines.... for example de venerable vulcan 900 is still very good and the bolt too
If you think this bike is a sporty cruiser I think you should try the Vulcan 650 and see what you think of it
I second this, thats the bike I'm looking at for my first bike.
Nice bike but honestly the Honda rebel looks so much better.
It looks a little like a small knockoff of a Suzuki m50 or it’s big brother the m109r with that headlight and body shape
It's hard to appraise the fluid lines of modern motorcycle design, with an exhaust that ends in a huge hibachi bar B que.
Amen to that. Modern exhausts look stupid, are heavy an burdened by cats. They want them , I DONT. I ditch any emissions that hobbles my bike
This is interesting! Wild the bike can feel that different when stats are so close to the Rebel. Now I wanna go to Preston and start checkin out bikes😂🤘🏻
Oh lawd! Last thing we need is BOTH of us coming home with a new bike every time we go to Preston! 😂😂😂
@@LifeOfBurchliterally😂
Just on looks the Rebel wins hands down.
Yeah but the Rebel isn't that beautiful either (imo)
Did you notice odd foot vs tank position once you started riding? You mentioned it as you sat on and first rode off (showing that the brake lever was inwards to the bike) but it seemed like it didn't bother you once riding? I wonder how that would be for commuting and getting on the brakes more often.
would like to know too
I think people will rebel against the Eliminator and buy the Honda
It's weird how much mirrors make a difference for a bike. In the words of Zack from Revzilla "I often tell the story about how my old boss at Motorcyclist Magazine used to take Honda mirrors, and put them on all his bikes because he loved them so much."
Something you don't miss until it's gone I guess.
The Kawa looks like it has just random bits thrown at it. A design mess.
I could definitely agree with that
Indeed, they copied Honda on all aspects lol another parts Bin Bike.
That’s actually why I like it lol
Yeah. Looks like if some rebel owner wanted a harley soooo bad.
Rebel looks cleaner
THE KAWASAKI WILL WHEELIE ⚙️ EASILY IN FIRST AND SECOND GEAR ⚙️⚙️
I'm a returning rider. I have an issue with gas tanks, and I sat on a SCL500 yesterday and the seat was the wide thing, not the tank. The seat didn't let my legs close and and still felt like it was smashing my nutts or something, but the Eliminator just "fit" when I got on it, like a good chair. I was worried about how wide the tank is (and closer to my gear), because I don't want my legs open (at least not on a bike), but I didn't notice it doing that and it was quite comfortable. I didn't notice the front brake position either, but I will when I go back tomorrow. I pressed it, but didn't notice what you pointed out. I'm not getting a bike next year, I'm getting one right now, so my decision making process is about over in favor of the Eliminator SE, unless I get some earth shattering news why I shouldn't.
I went to buy a Vulcan S, over a Rebel 500, because I was told I'd outgrow the Rebel and I don't intend on replacing whatever I get. What I get, I'm keeping for at least a decade (I don't do forever payments - my car is paid for and staying paid for). So, I saw on your Rebel that the tank was thinner, more in line with what I was initially thinking. I haven't sat on a Rebel or a Vulcan, so the Eliminator SE is the only one of the three I have tried. I neither like, nor dislike orange, so even though it is shocking to some, it isn't to me. It makes it sporty (on the, Why did you paint it that color side?) and visible in my opinion and I like both.
Even though the Rebel tank looks better to me as a rider would see it, again the tank on the Eliminator SE is obviously wider, but didn't bother me. I wish is was thinner (I hear that too), but I really love the design and feel of the bike. It bothers me just a little, because after sitting on a Rebel 1100, anything looks small (I'm 5",11", 150#, 33" from street to meat). In seeing your video, I noticed the arc of your tank and how you couldn't see over it, and I like the lower style the Eliminator offers, and I know you know what I'm talking about.
I'm not interested in high speed, just enough to keep from getting blown off the interstate if I go on it infrequently. I just want something to jump across town and have fun with. The exhaust noise (or lack of it) is perfect for me. I like to come and go at all times and the neighbors wouldn't appreciate me riding a thumper or a whiner. I'm single, enough said.
The tank does kinda bother me, but it's not that damn big and there are bigger ones (see, I am modest). The pros are outweighed. And btw, the cockpit instrument dial is off-set to accommodate your phone since it is Bluetooth enabled. I wondered about that so bad until it was explained to me. What that true? I don't know. It is a feature of the bike and when you see it with a phone, you'll get it. As for the placement of the USB-C, I can't help you with that, but you can get a 12" cable - somewhere. I don't know why it is on a big block like that and it should open from the bottom up, not the top down. I see that getting soaked and going out first. They put the door upside down and I'm a redneck, not an engineer (thanks Mr. Scott).
My question is, can you flip the mirrors to the other side, and mount them upside down? It'll be in the driveway by next week. I guess I could try it and get back to you (wouldn't that be novel?). Wow, this decision process has kept me awake for a week. It is totally exhausting and I can't wait for it to be over. No one talks about that, but I cannot be alone. I am so wiped out. I couldn't even estimate the hours and hours (maybe days) of videos and website clicks, driving to dealers and.... I can't say it hasn't been fun, but holy [insert the f-bomb here]!
I have owned mine for 3 months got over 800 miles on it. got a 2024 Kawasaki eliminator 450 abs se the exact bike you rode, and I love it
How much do you weigh you do any 0 to 60
@@michaelangelod5008I weigh 85 kg it’s fine for me, my moms st 65 kg she loves it
The real eliminator from Kawasaki is the Vulcan 600
Looks more like a Harley Davidson 750 street rod than a Honda Rebel. This is a good looking bike.. Ive never been a huge fan of the Rebel.
I don't know what the deal is with bike mirrors now... I bought my grand kids some bikes last year and this year (spending their inheritance) and I had to modify (widen) the mirrors on every one to not have my arms taking up half of the view. Your supposed to be able to see the center of your lane 100ft behind you, no way with today's mirrors. I'm 5' 11", average sized guy... Mirrors have to be wider than your handlebars, in most cases, unless they are above your shoulders. Bikes usta be that way... Now bikes come with them 8" above and centered on the grips...
bro...they make shorter cables
Purely aesthetically, Kawasaki Eliminator & Vulcan feel like they're trying to be a sports shoe, a classic rocker boot, a modern shoe, a construction boot, everything at the same time. It doesn't really fit into any niche, and is polarizing to me. Vs Rebel which really looks like a blacked out, modern, and bratty cruiser. And the exhaust on the eliminator is so poorly thought out and destroys the silhouette of the bike.
I'm a huge Honda guy myself but Kawasaki made a much better looking bike. You are right about it looking "bubbly" compared to the Kawasaki's sleek but aggressive profile and looks. I also love how wide the Kawasaki gets at the tank and fender. You also mentioned the seating position could give way to cramps or pain during long rides and I definitely get that on my 1100, even with the T-Rex forward controls which push the controls like 5 inches front. I really would like to see an overhaul of the rebel lineup to compete with the Kawasaki looks and the introduction of a rebel 1400+ with a ~30% larger frame. More power and more space!
You sir, are the embodiment of the expression “he can talk your ear off!” I don’t mind it a bit! I would far prefer that over a reviewer who has a hard time keeping things going.
I’ve came to the conclusion that I must be a Honda fan boy,because I always think that nothing looks as good as a Honda. I’m always (usually) willing to overlook or make excuses for Hondas weak points. Which leads me to the question “why do you,Burch,like Hondas?!” I mean isn’t Harley the uber cool brand? Why aren’t you into Harleys?! Maybe you should make a video about it. (I’m not either by the way)
The chinese learned their lesson with those inline 4 400's in the 80's and 90's and now they ride their Kawasaki Eliminator slow, at around 50mph.
Forget bad mirror count, let's do a "Cheap and Chintzy" counter. Loved the video, and I'm definitely checking out your sponsor's gear. It looks as cool as street and steel, but I won't those stupid "SS" buttons that make me feel uncomfortable haha.
Great review, Burch, it’s well researched… having said all that, I dunno why the Kawi guys went to all the trouble to mimic a rebel, and didn’t build on what they already have, the Vulcan S? I guess it would really come down to pure personal preference after seeing the ride along… can’t wait to test one out up here in Canada… Great video dude!
I don't agree that the Eliminator looks anything like the Rebel. It looks more like the Vulcan S. Especially with the long down sweep of the tank. Much more sporty than the Rebel.
Not likely.
But Honda desperately needs to go back to their classic design.
I don't want anything to do with the new design Rebel bikes.
Meh, on both this and the Reble. Idd get a 350 Royal Enfield before either of the bikes mentioned here. They are much sexier and have great performance.
If we are being honest, the Eliminator is not copying the Honda, they are both copying Harley. They want that sportster money now that Harley has dropped the ball on it. It is weird though that the Eliminator came out when they already have the Vulcan S. I don't know if you have done a review of that bike or not, but you should try it out if you haven't. Also, good On Kawi for putting a sportbike motor in their small displacement cruiser. It's so much more fun that way.
Rebel only very generally has the sportster shape. Other than that it looks nothing like a sportster. They created an original, unique, modern aesthetic to it. And kawasaki is very clearly trying to copy their work here
LOL soooo because harley had a beginner category that means these brands are copying... as if they didnt both have multiple beginner bikes for many years. what an asinine comment.
I would like to see you do a review/comparison with the Kawasaki Vulcan S 650. I originally wanted the rebel 1100, but I could only find the DCT version in my area so I went with the Vulcan S.
I really wanted to be a H2 eliminator….
I am searching for a nice piece like the rebel 500 but I would not go with this one. It might be close but it is really different to my eyes at least. It looks far more sporty for my tastes
I've been watching your channel for over a year, but I went to check and sit on all of them and at 5'2 I thought I would like how the rebel would feel but I got sold on the eliminator
a 450 is a big fail. Should be a 750. Rebel is only for persons under 5'4" with the pedal linkage. elimator is comfy with pegs forward and variable like the vulcan S. What is honda thinking to have pegs under you vs. a forward setup ?
I am surprised that there is NOT an industry Standard for Mirrors ????
What’s the point if You can’t see behind You ??????? Dangerous and Dumb 🎉
Super Review ….. Merci 😎
I know that both engines are bullet proof and reliable, but the SOUND is pure shit, no character what so ever. Big let down in terms of sound, not even aftermarket exhausts can help it. I would rather buy 350 RE thumper or 650 twin instead.
Sound is the part of the bike, at least for me.
Big dealbreaker for me.
Looks wise, kawi gives of early Ducati Monster vibes in the sense that it looks like a hodgepodge of parts that only looks cool to children. But a more literal comparison would be calling it a child’s vrod power wheel
At least the monster was a ducati
Obviously not... I love kawasaki, but they will never keep up with honda. I have broke so many kaws, still rocking my all original 2006 250 recon with carb work and a few junk batteries.
Kawasaki wishes they could keep up...
Anyone heard the word “DORITO” used to describe the design of a motorcycle before??
Bolt owners are fenadical I bet it do deliver
nice but why not a 750. The rebel is so Uncomfy for 6' tll persons; pegs are under ya!!!
450 not enuf power for 2 persons. This would be a super 750-850 bike
Looks better than rebel overall but Rebel looks good on girls. Rebel is more of a go to motorcycle for beginners and girls and it suit them well and looks badass for female riders.
The Kawa has a Chinese look going on. Weird plastic panels, trying to look like a V-Rod. Just look at all the stuff at the engine, too much going on. The Honda looks cleaner.
The Rebel has it's bad also but it doesn't look like other bikes.
It's not ripping off the rebel lol both bikes were originally made in 1985. The eliminator is supposed to take over the Vulcan S.
I used to think Honda Rebel is a fugly sports cruiser. Now the Eliminator 450 took the spot, with its edgy, pointy, plasticky design.
What are you on about with Kawasaki copying Honda's Rebel? The look nothing alike, the rebel looks more like the Vulcan S which was out a few years before these...
Used to own a Vulcan S and this is like the baby brother basically. These line of motorcycles do have some cheap parts sadly but overall, they ride damn nice for what they are.
agreee; a good one person bike; thats why vulcan s or larger is needed for passengers; Honda missed the boat here to not make a 500x in a 750 version.
Man, I've been here since 5K subs. Seeing you have sponsors is truly amazing. let's go brotha
Dropping a bike into 1st gear at 12mph without a little rev, thats why you got the clunk, bit too high to go for first. just saying
When you make your videos avoid to move the camera around like this with your hands messing around, it's better to film normally.
The chinesium bike is otw. 2024 CFMOTO CL-C 450 bobber. With a 270 crank P-Twin. If the Eliminator and Rebel honestly had the 270-crank it would be my choice immediately. I just can't fathom the 90 sound on a cruiser. I want to... But my body says absolutely no.
Edit: Btw there's videos of it already overseas and it sounds freaking amazing.
the fact youre not a specs guy is obvious because kawasaki eliminater was in production in the 80s before the honda
SCL500 vs Eliminator which makes the btter first bike?
for my money id get the SCL, but I'm really not into cruisers
Honda's fuel tanks are ugly as sin. They need to wrap it around to cover the frame. Neither one trips my trigger.
The scrambler has them beat. However, i think i would go with the eliminator even though i owned a rebel 500. They are all great bikes.
I think looks are just personal preference, imo Honda looks like more motorbike than Kawasaki.
They look different and the kawasaki looks better but i think your Honda bias by the way you were picking the hell out of the kwaka
Defo looks better than the Rebel... the Honda looks a bit as if it was assembled from Lego bricks.
enough waving your hands in front of the camera golly. Also the amount of bias you are showing is insane
Kawasaki aesthetic wins over the Honda hands down. Lose the stock mirrors for bar end mirrors😎
The Eliminator looks a lot better. HAHA let the good times roll.