Toyota 4K Engine restoration
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- Опубликовано: 7 июл 2019
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Working on an engine in white pants is confidence to another level
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Homie took every engine building tip and yeeted it out the window
Mantap, saya dari indonesia, semoga ALLAH SWT Memberikan Umur yang Panjang buat bapak ... Amin
That cyl head tightening patern hit me right in to my heart
Sheer heart attack
Somewhere in Japan an old retired Toyota factory worker is watching this and having a heart attack.
Hahahahahahaha
I don't work in japanise factory but i don't belive what i saw every step is mistake
@@stachu97 why freind every thing is mistake?
@@juggler808able just wath the movie and you will know
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Lo mismo lo hacía con mi padre en el taller...me alegra mucho saber que aún se hacen este tipo de restauración o reparación. ...mil felicidades
Happy to see everything’s torqued down to spec!😂
Cool staff, God Bless him
Come on people life runs different in the rest of the world!!! We are to proud here in America.
There is a lot to say about this "restoration" , in my opinion is not a professional job ,BUT we need to consider the fact that they live in India, and maybe is very dificult and expensive to find a milling machine to resurface the cilinder head. I think they did their best with the resources they have. Keep going!!! Best wishes in you restoration!!
Maybe it didn't need skimming. You normally need to skim if it's warped.
I didn't see any torque settings on the head nor the front crank shaft or the oil pan..I hope it lasts
I agree 💯. India is one of the poorest nations in the world so this guy for sure isn’t doing this on a shoe string budget but less!
Machine shops are easily accessible in India in semi-urban or urban areas. It's a fact that many mechanics in India don't use a torque wrench because of lack of awareness, but the fact is this is shoddy work even by Indian standards. Painting of flywheel and clutch assembly, mixing up the pushrods, no checking and/or adjustment of valve clearances are certain things that a mechanic won't do even in India.
Yes, You are right, Many of those commenting here are not realizing this reality !!
I dismantle and install the machine every week, to study in my vocational high school
greetings from Indonesia🇲🇨
For the love of all that is Holy...get this man a torque wrench!!!!
“We don’t need no stinking torque wrench!”
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The Force is strong in him.
Someone give this man a torque wrench, please
Bhai saab you know this is india not a germany they people dont know what is the tourqe rench hahahaà
He needs a brain too
He can restore the engine without a torque wrench. He deserves a credit.
Night King I’m sure he could do more than you
And ring compresson. Plasti guage.
Belíssimo trabalho. Eficiencia, simplicidade e correição na execução do trabalho. Parabéns.
Legend has it they are still getting the water out of the distributor to this day.
“How to Save a Flood Car”
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you are the man. i didnt see you use a torque wrench even one time.
Who needs a Torque wrench when you have a length of 1" box section instead :- )
Ha ha true
My favorite parts of the video were the machining of the block, head, and crankshaft. The precise measurements of all tolerances were especially riveting. Oh...wait....
Something missing right
@@elfernandez1850 not just a torque wrench eh? What a rubbish rebuild.
I don't have the skill to rebuild engines but those flaws made me wince. And the way he installed the rings had to scratch the pistons.
It might come as a surprise to you but rebuilding this engine, even improperly, netted this man tens of thousands of dollars. Even if it went in the trash after the camera stopped rolling it served its purpose.
@@madmanau8730 the part of the world where this channel is from this would be considered fine workmanship.... People here don't have any proper tools or knowledge...
I love how they just dump the oil on the ground. Perfect for the environment👍
thats first world problem
Didn’t it come out of the ground in the first place?
Love the Safety Flip Flops when performing engine work.
Че вы-самое главное корзину покрасил-ОГОНЬ -теперь точно помчит! Я вижу люди просто в шоке на всех языках!!!!
*10:45** ржавое колено👍*
Корзину и маховик покрасил а коленвал забыл покрасить, не порядок!!!
Зато масляный насос покрасил!))))
Это походу Индия да?
Они наверное даже о биении не задумываются, хотя вот в следующем видосе уже микрометром шейки потыкал ради приличия, так глядишь индикатора часового типа доберется скоро)
Un. Gran. Maestro. Mecanico. Saludos. De jalisco. Mexico.
Terlihat sempurna untuk awam dan pemula.
Im not going to lie i had to wipe the tears from my eyes
Its not the way i do it with all my mod cons..but i think its really awesome..excellent work..thank you for posting
Champion of the word .merci pour cette simplicite .vous etes tres bon ..
Philippe
It's better you use a torque wrench to ensure that all screws are tightened properly just like what maintenance books recommend
All respect 🌹❤️
Excellent to see this video. I am a automobile engineer hats off this work
Oh ... you're so fussy. I only want it mounted on my coffee table as a conversation piece. Ya I am old and single. Why do you ask?
I had a 1970 Toyota Corolla Sprinter as my first car. $1,250 bucks out the door (Canadian currency) Ran like a little sewing machine it did.
Straight or cross threaded... Tight is tight! Hell yeah!
Переборка движка в белых джинсах - это высший пилотаж☝️
Чувака вообще не парит почему у трёх шатунов отверстия с одной стороны а у одного с другой... Его вообще не парит ничего.
Hi everybody. 😁 hahaha wonderful very simple tools and very simple techniques 👏🤝👍
This is just epic. love the attention to detail bench shining the rocker cover and other bits and bobs.
Looks amazing. A true credit to you
That fresh tourqe spec thooooo, homie said "its all in the wrist"
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this meme thoo
@@irhamfaza7608 fooooreeal lmao
Bruh!
Tight is tight
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Why everyone screaming that he is Indian Mechanic??? This video is from Sri Lanka 🤦♂️.. And also try to appreciate the person who is trying with whatever tools available to him, maybe give him suggestions but do not make fun of him..
Everything he does s wrong....
Ruel Traya Again like the person above said maybe he used every tool available to him...maybe he didn’t have the opportunity to take the block and head to a machine shop...and I’m sure he didn’t check any clearances nor use a torque wrench nor dispose of fluids properly but rather than acting like you’re an expert mechanic leave a comment or suggestion to help him improve his content
What a bone head the order of parts weren't right and torq. Really it won't last lmfao
@jose miranda They don't care. I caught a couple of Sri Lankan guys in my work street one Sat. They'd opened a storm water drain and had their car over it draining the sump oil straight into the storm water drain....that goes to the local wetland. I took a photo and immediately rang the local council ranger who got there in time to catch them. Apparently the ranger had been trying to find out who was putting oil into the storm water for months.
Not sure what fine they got...but I hope it was thousands of $s.
He didn't check the bearing clearance, the ring gap, didn't properly torque the rods/mains/heads, etc. He did so much wrong, lucky that engine will last out a damn week. I don't care where he is from. Someone else stated in the comment he's from the Philippines and even they have Torque Wrenches in what equates to a 3rd world country! I been there, my fiance is in the Philippines. I was a Master Technician, had all 8 ASE Master Certificates and worked for GM. You watch any REAL mechanic worth his rate on RUclips and you will see them measure everything. Even then, the engine may fail on the Dyno! I just saw one fail on a Power Nation engine build and they know what they are doing. Don't make excuses! This is wasted money. That engine WILL fail.
Amazing! All done with a socket, a lug wrench and a flathead screwdriver. I bet it starts first time.
Me quedo atónita, que gran profesional, felicitaciones desde colombia, un saludo especial
Owner: so when is my next service?
Expert mechanic: tonight at 6 pm
Owner: .......
hhahahahahahaha
Engine looked great when done. No torque wrench to torquw the head down, or the bearing and big end caps. No oil on the little ends;. You painted the clutch pressure plate and the flywheel. The paint will just melt at temperature and gum up the clutch driven plate. Did you adjust the rockers and timing ?.
@QuestionMan LOL.. elbow clicks and clocks
he didnt even put the rocker covers and the rocker pins in order.. he just pulled them straight put and mixed them up...
No worries. the flies will take care of it...
Year adidas nike puma. 5555
Leaving certain things to Mother nature.
Really appreciated seeing a 4K getting a restoration! I’ve owned two Corolla’s in my past, one with a 3K-H and another with a 4K-C. The prior mentioned motor I did an overhaul on. Very sentimental seeing this! They were great mighty little engines! Thank you so much for posting! 😁
I have to admit tho, I did exercise a certain amount of caution, precision, and proper skills performing my overhaul! Please no offense!
නියමයි මචං පිට රට ඕන තරම් චැනල් දැකලා තියෙනවා ලංකාවේ එකක් දැක්කමයි පට්ට
here in Ph, even a very little machine shop along the road have torque wrench 🤗
Просто жесть. Цыганская переборка движка))
Не дай бог этот мотор комуто поподеться.
Абсолютно согласен!!!
На России всё аналогично...Хуйло мастера!
Динамометрический ключ меня тоже поразил)))
В Индии это нормально, продаст как новый.
Hello RE I'm 12 yrs old just graduated elementary last April no class coz of covid 19 i have neighbors auto mechanic shop I'm helping since grade 4 i observed you forgot;
1) check carbon brush from alternator.
2)you must adjust the timing belt to zero.
3) adjust the valve clearances of intake n exchaust from filler gauge.
4)you need to use torque wrench for equally bolt tight.
I'm just guessing if I'm right if wrong....sorry from a small boy Pinoy.
Я не моторист, но
6:01 - у нас бы в России этим бы никто не занимался.
10:47 - задранный да ещё и заржавевший коленвал прямо так кинули, блок на эллипс тоже не проверяли,
12:46 - ГБЦ вся в раковинах и без фрезеровки, фаски сёдел не нарезаны, клапана старые
15:16 - болты ГБЦ протянули как попало, а не в строгой очерёдности
18:08 - старую корзину желательно заменить. А вот воткнуть диск сцепления на ощупь, без оправки, - вообще треш!
В общем ремонт по-индийски: главное - внешний лоск! Хотя за идею и старания заслуженный лайк!
Owner: How was the crankshaft? just scoring on the journals , still fine😁😁👍
Hola ,muy buen video,lo vi desde salta argentina,quedo okm ese motor , ojalá aquo en salta hicieran asi un trabajo como ese 😀
Toyota 4kJ model engine we used in boats here in the Philippines! Thanks for sharing this video!
Thank you for sharing.. It will help me on my project.. Keep it up..
Great job ,no bullshit just got on with the job,and good video work ,no annoying music ,you have encouraged me to do up my ford mondeo diesel engine
@@atokrockers8334 🤣🤣🤣🤣
There ya go! A good wash and a fresh coat of paint will make any engine run like new!!!
This is the engine that make Toyota global force to recognize.
Fascinante trabajo 😀👍🏾👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽
well if you stuck in the middle of the bush this guy probably get going working with what you have says a lot about you he doing the best he can with what he has to work with
Jon Minnella did you watch the video? Do you have any understandings of engine rebuilds? This engine is never going to run, not even crappy running
@@Mark-vn7et why? I don't understand a single thing a bout engine that's why i watch this. Do you mind explaining please? I know like the belt, piston.. that's basically it
If this actually ran i believe every seal leaked. Looked good in those "fresh rebuild" ebay pics though.
Excelente video mí estimado, un suscriptor mas 👍, gracias por compartir, saludos.
You guys are amazing. As a do-it yourself mechanic in Florida, I absolutely love these video. I have the highest respect for the skills and ability to do these restorations. Well done. Subscribed!
Toyota company should be awarded this engineer with 60 cannon salute 😂😂🤣
Pointing dfirectly at him ? lol.
60 cannon salute....... to the face! 😂
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣😜😜😜😜😂😂😂😂😂
@@rueltraya2604 pWAS
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These guys using none of the up market tools and gear make a fantastic quality job, well done.
so thats whats meant by sarcasm
say sike right now
Finally. Someone wearing shoes!
Yesss
with all of my full respect, i really honored to watch your channel. you guys done tear down & starts engine with minimum equipment. salute.
greetings from indonesia.
Ahh... so this is where autozone remans come from
Hey now... I bought an autozone reman engine one time and it made it 69k miles before it grenade itself. I doubt this engine would make it 69 miles🤣
I’m sure the rust on that crank will bed those new bearings in beautifully
damn boy.. you make this old man proud.. this is how I used to build my engines when I was young.. these days if you don't use 10 of thousands of dollars worth of equipment they look down on you as a "shade tree" mechanic.. Every one of my many many engines ran and ran well for many years.. OUTSTANDING my brothers.. you are the men! With about 20 dollars worth of tools and some good understanding.. bang a great engine is born!!
So u call this spray painting of old engine parts a restoration 😂🗿
@@KuntalGhosh That is rather a strange thing to say.. of course not. If that's what you think he did here, then you way off the mark.. but don't worry over much no one really minds much at all. Carry on and enjoy your day.. thanks
@@tinkmarshino rebuilding an engine takes a lot more than just installing new pistons and rings without measuring any size and gaps. He did not even attempt to resurface that fly wheel. It's just painted over. The amount of wrong procedures in this video makes "pakistani truck" channel's videos look better.
@@KuntalGhosh This guy didn't have a shop son.. he did the best he could.. I have rebuilt and refreshed many different engines since the 60's. Some race engines some lawn mower engines.. in the beginning I didn't have a shop either. Don't be so critical.. he did what you couldn't. You dream of trains he refreshes engines.. which is more productive? You try living where he does and see how well you survive.. Selfritiousness doesn't feed the bulldog boy.. And it doesn't look good on you either..
@@tinkmarshino i have rebuild few engines so it is not even close to unimaginable. . When u doing an engine do it right the first time . If u skip on steps & not measure things like properly gaping the rings then it will come back & bite u in the ass too soon! I have rebuild a 1.5l Peugeot diesel from 2001 that now has over 150k km since i rebuild it at 230k in 2014. And still going good with just about 382k , has turbo seal leak but it's going to scrap in few months so i don't care about it anyways.
I have rebuild countless small honda engines & right now working on a gx200 from an inverter generator that has spun bearing & i bought it for 300$ on facebook. While i may not be the top of the line expert in engines i still can say whatever this guy doing is okay only if he uses this in his own car. If he is doing this for someone else then he is almost robing them cus there is no way this will do even 50k without major issues. Just looking at the surface of that flywheel says u a lot about his work ! I live in a 3rd world country and i know some mechanis who work exactly like him.
I have seen those pakistani truck channel's using atleast a torque wrench to do the journals but here it's just a wrench they use to do the wheel nuts 🤦.
Động cơ toyota rất bền🙏🌾👍
i cant wait for these toyota experts to rebuild my 2jz
My biggest surprise was how long he managed to keep his white trousers white - I only have to walk near an open bonnet (hood) and I'm covered in oil/grease!
only in india
Yep, that's the proper way
Dump every fluid in one puddle and leave the engine on the ground with no pan. Top dollar quality
its India... the whole country is a garbage..
Para los pistones a necesita un opresor
First time i've seen a mechanic assemble an engine without using a torque wrench. Can't say i'm amazed
The torque wrench was instaled on his muscle :)
No torque wrench is allowed that time. He used only his own hand, and eat pruuta food a lot.
Good job of keeping that pressure washer from spraying back on you. Every time I use one I always get sprayed back in my face.
Про такую реставрацию могу сказать одно: "Внутри говно, блестит лишь упаковка!!!"
Моторчик так то на волговский похож... И да,коленвал не точили,водяная помпа ржавая,герметик не ложили! Цыганча,хули!😂
он да же головку прикручивал не так как нужно а тупо попорядку и без динамометрического ключа не взвешивал поршня с кольцами не шлифовал гильзы короче можно было не разбирая тупо покрасить
Мужики полностью с вами согласен. Бугеля на колене вообще от руки прикрутил.
"Внутри говно, блестит лишь упаковка!!!"
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Вы правы, всё это похоже на создание образца для музея.
Как здесь правильно подметили, вполне можно было обойтись чисткой и наружной покраской. Мотор то явно не рабочий получился...
@@user-uj1xy2oj8y , помпу то новую поставили, а в остальном согласен.
Ремонт уровня Бог! ГБЦ не отфрезерована (плоскость не выровняли), колено решили не точить, зато серебряной краской маховик и корзину сцепления покрасили, гении!!!
Good on the guy cor putting up a video.not everyone is blessed with certain tools.hel be working with what he can afford
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@@kumaranil9914 yeah what?
Hey, at least it got a brand new chain and oil filter!!!
The slow camera at the end had my crying!!!!
Don’t forget new pistons(I think connecting rods and pins and gasket kit. Money down the drain.......
The most professional engine rebuild in the house that day.
Perfecto trabajo ,,,,un mecanico con experiencia no ocupa torque ni llaves especiales ,,,,te saludo de midland texas ,,,,,,este mecanico si es un maestro
Amazing work, loved the Morris minor engine rebuild, gonna watch the Honda moped full rebuild next. Thanks for your hard work making these video's. I love them. Thanks vinny. :-)
This guy is not a mechanic but a painter!
A true professional, note how he uses the lug nut spanner as a torque wrench with percision. Who needs a snap on digital .
He knows the tension in his arms his(precions acts) yes that works say 5years minimum ...he knows the job well
Good enough in a pinch.
Montagem bem precária !
Great job!
Краткая инструкция о том, как «перебрать» мотор, собрать, завести, словить клина, разобрать и чесать репу над темой - что же я сделал не так?🤣👍
слава богу увидел родные русские слова, а вообще я бы ещё раз перебрал бы этот дрыгатель и с удовольствием
@@user-xl3bd3dq9m помытый мне бы оставил я бы то же перебрал как лялечку
да ааааа
На отъебись сделал...колено не шлифовал, плоскость головки не ровнял, головку вобще хуй знает как протянул...пиздец...
@@user-gj9bi4rl6f Вкладыши не задраны,нах.колено трогать? Цилиндры скорее всего промеряли и не стали точить,гильзовать,головку и блок тоже нех.трогать,если плоскости в допуске.Но зато всё чистенько и окрашено,если где то косяк, сразу видно будет.Человек работал не у нас,и там за брак он раскошелиться из своего кармана,а уж как у нас на отъебись делают...Я про то,что пара комментариев на русском,и всё равно льют дерьмом.Запиши свой ролик,как ты капиталишь мотор,и покажи как надо.А пиздеть-не двигатель собирать, все мастера...
Now I know where Earl Schieb went. He's now is this country and is new ad is "I'll rebuild any engine for $29.95".
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Social media is really bringing our world closer together. I've never read such pleasing and uniting comments in the RUclips comments as this one! 😬
Ya boy literally pressure washed the internals 🤣🤣👍
New video title: How to restore and rebuild an engine THE WRONG WAY
Stop Pulling his legs. he is learning. Maybe!!!!
Hahaa
the cheap way
@@fdloop nasty but true
Restoration is an easy task. The big question is did the engine works? I think not.
Still waiting for starting the engine.
What happened, did it blow up?
¡Desde Panamá city excellent blood!
Mantap videonya👍
Didn't even paint the internals!! C'mon that's backyard 101 😎
Bryan Ball18 Best comment
I’ve never had more anxiety in my life
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Вкладыши чётко поставил)
Awesomely done ! 👍👍👍👍👍
Great job fellas, Cheers for the video :-)
I can seen an engine builder from AMG stroking out watching this.
Be nice to have just a bit of narration, explaining what's happening.
The K motors were terrific, and I remember my partner buying a Starlet with multi-point injection. It was hit hard on the l/h side, but it was worth repairing, and it was surprisingly grunty.
Even better the her earlier "Twin Squish" carburetor powered Starlet, and that was fairly quick for a 1300cc oushrod engine, even in stock condition.
You have done this job with extreme carelessness.
I see a lot of criticism and scoffing...however...what do you think is powering these third world countries? He uses torque...like "not too tight," "tight," and "tighter than tight." I think we'd all be surprised to see how well that engine runs and how long it lasts. It sure didn't look like his first time. Sure he didn't hone the cylinders, and didn't use a torque wrench on anything...didn't have a fancy Mac or Snap on tool box with 300 pounds of tools in it...and he reused a lot of old parts...and my guess that's what you do in a third world country...either that or do without. Make it work. But, he did have a novel way to grind the valve seats and valves using his fire starter survival tool. All in all...way cool.
BTW...anyone want to guess how many times that engine has been rebuilt? For sure it wasn't one of Toyota's more recent models. LOL....killing me.
That's not a fancy way to grind valves in mate that's old school was doing that with engines in the 70s when I was a motor mechanic
Lol...for sure old style using lapping compound. I went to engine school in 1971...and we learned both ways...lapping and grinding.
Donkeys and human powered rickshaws
Please start the engine I want to laugh.. 😅😅😅...
Excelente la restauracion del motor 4k mi papá tubo un motor de esos y lesalio mui bueno saludos desde panamá👌👏🇵🇦👍
Thank you. I am old and retired, warm my heart as a mechanic retired. God bless you, be safe, and have fun.
Looks good, last a long time.