Strong Joints on Thin Plywood by OTB Thinker
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- Опубликовано: 15 сен 2019
- OTB Thinker. How to get a strong joints with thin plywood. Sometimes brads nails or screws can't be used. Let me show you an alternative way to get a strong joint even on plywood 1/8" thick.
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3:29 You're killing me Russ. It's like you're teasing me how you did it. So I made a link here for others who are impatient like me. :)
When you're right . . . you're right. I do ramble. Thanks for pointing out the starting point for those that hate the rambling. I am pinning your comment to the top so others can be warned. Let me know where that point is on my other videos and I can pin your comment there for others :>) BTW, I will always ramble and I am no where near done. Thanks Phil.
@@russveinot5754 No, it's not that bad. I was just anxious to see what you had to share. You had me on the edge of my seat. Great idea. I subscribed to you channel. I'm looking forward to trying this out. I found this video when I searched RUclips for "How to make thin wood joints."
you're not the first one to suggest I ramble, you just did it the nicest. thanks for subbing
that't funny was thinking the same thing, watched it all anyways then read the comments, says thanks Phill, i'm like how did you know =)
@@russveinot5754 You keep showing us cool tricks like this, you ramble all you want. We all really appreciate the education. =)
I think my shop teacher covered reinforcing thin joints with toothpicks and popsicle sticks in the first week of class, and that's over 25 years ago. It's not a discovery, but your title did get my attention well enough to watch, so you're doing something right.
Thanks Jay. BTW, didn't the instructor explain the difference between toothpicks and bamboo skewers? There is a subtle difference.
@@russveinot5754 , actually, he did. He said it's fine for soft woods, but never use it for hard wood, because it expands at lower humidity, and it can cause hard wood to crack.
@@jayspell179 You might be overthinking that. The bamboo expands, but no where near enough to crack hard woods. Expanding in the hole is part of where it gets its strength. The other part is the fact that bamboo is very stringy and wont break across its grain easily.
This is really awesome Russ! I've struggled for years trying to connect OSB and keep the corners square. This is why I use RUclips to find solutions and a better way.
Russ, you're one of the few woodworkkers on you tube that's not irritating to listen to. Great info as well, please keep em coming!
I'm building a stage prop out of plywood and your idea makes a lot of sense because weight is important thank you
Thanks for the comment. I have made several more videos on using bamboo skewers in different ways. They are all in my playlist called "BS Joinery" if interested.
For a fast growing material, bamboo has some crazy strength properties. Thanks for the idea!
Brilliant idea Russ... Thank you again for your knowledge...
Good video. To make it great, drop the first five and the last five. Keep em coming!
Just the tip I needed for my 1/8" hardboard project and easy enough for a beginner like me. Thank you very much!
It seems to always work for me. Thanks DH
Russ you are a joy ..almost a zen approach to woodworking....nice!
great idea Russ. Thank you for your knowledge. Ill use that idea.
Great tip!!! I plan to use this in making some thin wood boxes. Thank You.
Thanks Russ, for another informative video.
I used bamboo skewers to reinforce a very elaborate picture frame that I built this past Christmas as a gift. I used the skewers rather than splines and was able to countersink them and then fill the holes. The picture frame outer edge was to be painted so it was an invisible addition and made the frame nearly indestructible!👍👍👍
Skewers are very handy to reinforce anything. I use them all the time. Thanks for sharing your experiences.
@@russveinot5754 And thank YOU for prompting me to ‘think outside the box!’ 👌🏼
Brilliant idea! Simple, uses available resources, and adds tremendous value! Thanks for sharing!
Genius idea. The critical angle and opposing angles are great - the logic is perfect
Great tip! Can't wait to try it and I'm sure I'll be using it often!
Rambling or not, this is a very valuable pro tip shared here!
Thank you so very much Russ. I have liked and subscribed 🥰👍
Brilliant! Nicely done!
Great idea. Very helpful. Thanks for sharing.
Thanks for the Idea Mr.Russ!!!
Greetings from England! This is a great idea, and a worthy addition to the ol' knowledge bank! Thank you!.
I find new things to use them (BS's) on all the time. Thanks Tom, for the greeting from across the pond. FYI, I have done several more videos (including a Jig) on using bamboo skewers.
@@russveinot5754 Thank you Russ, I'll have a look at those. I have ended up with a huge bag of these skewers and still no clue where they came from, or what they're for? but at least I can make good use of them now. I was surprised at the strength in your demo's as it was quite significant difference. Good thinking! All the best. Tom
@@tomhart5465 Yeah, I got 3 bundles now, so I keep finding uses :>) FYI, I have a playlist of all the bamboo skewers related videos called BS Joinery. Thanks Tom
A great idea. I am going to use that for some of my future projects.
Thank you for the awesome tip!!!
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“The Guy in the back..”Again” he’s right on top of it” !! ~💛~ I Genuinely LAUGHED & boy that’s been rare for me! So …Thank You RR for you being GENUINE & for all I’m learning! 👍🏻👱🏼♀️
Excellent Video. I did not know about the bamboo sticks and the fact they swell up in the glued joint. Thanks.
That's awesome. Thanks for sharing this great tip!
I definitely learned something today and the best part is I found a new favorite channel. Thanks you!
I am making a light, portable, slant desk for use with my fountain pens. I decided on 1/4 inch plywood to keep it light. I was worried about the butt joints. I live in a condo and have few tools. This video is exactly what I needed.
Thanks for sharing, John. I use this method all the time now :>)
Fantastic video! Thank you!
That's a good one I'll use it. Thank's for sharing Russ.
Great information. I am going to make some lightweight boxes for a French Cleat wall and this will most definitely help.
Nifty ides! I like dowels, and never considered using bamboo skewers, Thanks for the "out-of-the-box" concept. Thanks
Love it, so simple when you know how.
Love this one! Thanks for the tip!
Exactly what I was looking for. Thank you.
Glad you posted this video. I am heading out to get some bamboo skewers in a bit. Need some milk for my coffee. Have a lot of 1/4 and 1/8 plywood on hand. and now the opportunities to make use of it are broadened.
Well done, love sitting in the back. I use a similar idea for setting up steering guides on my extension mechanical lifts. Such as found on a drill press. By extension of the handle on a drill press with a larger work table. I found the used chop sticks from the Chinese take out work very well!
I like every single second of this video, Mr Veinot! It's so naturally well-done!
You keep unveiling new secrets little by little 'till the end.. and without any unnecessary information.
thanks a lot, please keep going!
thanks for the words of encouragement, Gabriele.
Russ, you are a genius!
Russ this worked great! Those skewers really tighten up when the glue sets. I can already tell it’s gonna be super strong. Thanks .You are smart and entertaining.
Thanks Wood. I have a playlist (BS joinery) with several more ideas about skewers, including a jig to help drill, if interested
@@russveinot5754 I also used the tip about drilling straight holes with a forstner bit. It worked great, but any tips on reducing tear out?
@@woodwisdomnonsenseandcats4203 Either clamp on a backing board or drill in from both sides.
Nice tip and great video. I never thought of skewers. I have used small dowel rods and even chop sticks on somewhat larger projects. I have a little project in mind (small box thing) that I will try this on. Thank you. BTW, you are a really good instructor.
Love it! I will use this, I'm about to join some 1/2" plywood so I'll use regular dowels or maybe pocket screws but I would have used 1/4" if I had this technique in my toolbox.
Great idea, and great technique!
Thanks , great idea and great explanation as to why you would change to a steeper angle for a butt joint and why you might make it a complex angle like toe nailing for even more strength.
AWESOME advice, and well explained.
Thanks Joe
Thanks Russ. I’ve been looking for a way to make small boxes without using support pieces inside the box.
Thanks for this video. These are really great tips !
Thanks Russ. A great video I wouldn’t change it a bit. I enjoy listening to your natural somewhat rambling approach. You’re a joy to listen to; very relaxing. I’ve only just finished gluing up a small thin plywood box of drawers that came undone. I’ll try this mostly for the fun of doing it. Cheers
Great idea - I'll try it out tomorrow!
Just saw this. Nice idea Russ. My father has been woodworking for years but I'm new to it. You have yourself another subscriber. Cheers
Fantastic idea thanks for sharing.
Thanx for the great teach pops! Love it.
Russ, Great video! I gave this a try on small desk drawers with butt joints. Found using my cordless drill with a bamboo skewer inserted let me cut the skewer to length using a pvc pipe cutter. I also made a simple jig so I could drill the 45 degree holes in the corners. Thanks for sharing your knowledge.
Excellent tips!
That is truly innovative Russ thanks for the tips keep them coming,
thanks Ian
Russ Veinot I also got inspired by your Incra jig innovations and pulled one out that I bought many years ago, may be 30? I had less than satisfactory results. Nothing to do with your suggestions. I was trying to cut half blind dovetails. When it came to the pins I had problems with the bit self feeding and pulling the work into the bit and blowing the joint. After several try I became frustrated and decided that this is not the best method to do this type of cut. Any thoughts?
Awesome Tip! Thanks
Awesome tip. Thanks so much!
I do basically the same as you with the exception that I use bamboo toothpicks.You are right it makes a very strong joint!
Great solution. Thanks
If anyone watching this doubts whether this works, I tried it, and it does EXACTLY what he shows. Brilliant technique!
Thanks John. I would pin this if I hadn't already promised that to Phil for his comment. BTW, I was totally surprised by the added strength of the joint the first time I tried this. I'm glad it works for you (& others), too.
@@russveinot5754 ... "(& others), too".
Yes, that's why I re-visited this: for "others." My son-in-law saw the demonstration piece I created from your video (I banged it on the table, just like you did) and has a project, using thin plywood, that needs exactly this kind of strengthening. He doesn't have a box or dovetail jig, so this technique/trick is exactly what he needs.
Thank you for the tips.
Thanks for the video. I have a project that this is perfect for. I’m trying to make a jig box with scrap 1/4” plywood instead of buying thicker wood. I’m glad I found your idea.
Thanks for the kind words. I do have a playlist of other videos about using bamboo skewers in joinery, including a simple jig if interested. It's called "BS Joinery" in my playlists.
Great solution to a common problem. I have skewers I have collected from restaurants as they use these to hold some sandwiches together. Was using them to spread glue into tight corners.
Very good idea. Especially the talk about the layered would being weak if you drill at a 45 straight through like nails or screws. You taught me a thing or two there old timer and I thank you.
Excellent idea. I had used toothpicks for small dowels, but as soon as you mentioned bamboo the light bulb went on in my head. And the drill angle really made sense. Thanks for the tip!
This is great. It opened up my woodworking fields. Many thanks
Thanks for the words of encouragement. Where did you find this video? BTY, welcome to my shop
Razor saw, just like a miniature Japanese carpenter saw. Quick and probably neater then a razor blade.
Nice thinking, well explained. Appreciate it.
Thank you! A genius solution to the 1/4 inch birch plywood room box I'm making!
Thanks Jane. . I do have a playlist of several other videos on tips and a jig I made to make these bamboo joints called "BS Joinery" if interested.
Great idea I am certainley gonna use it
Your videos are the best kept secret on RUclips. They're very informative. Thanks!
thanks Jay (twice :>)
Brilliant idea - will definitely use it for my light weight slide on camper build
Thanks, Rick. I have a playlist ("BS Joinery") with more tips and a jig to help with drilling if interested.
Thanks for sharing. Will help with my project. 110 degree MDF joint.
Love the explanation of the angle of the dangle as it applies to the laminations
The angle of the dangle definitely increases the length of the strength :>) thanks Mike
very informative Learned a few tricks thanks
Thanks for explaining so well the how and the why of thin butt joints!
Thanks. BTW, I have a video coming out with a drilling guide jig pretty quick.
This method really helped me join together some 1/4 boards. Thanks for making a video about it.
I have done several more videos about how to use Bamboo skewers and a jig to help drill exact angle if interested. Go look at my playlist "BS Joinery" on my channel page. Thanks for the kind words, Matt.
@@russveinot5754 Thanks. I did run into some minor issues getting the holes aligned properly with out a drill press. The miter joints with the BS worked amazingly well.
Perfect for something I need to build. Thanks
Thanks, Puppy. I have made a jig to use the bamboo skewer in all sorts of situations. Check my "BS Joinery" playlist for more ideas.
awesome trick
Thank you. exactly what I was looking to do.
Brilliant tip. - Thank you very much.
Thanks for the kind word. If interested, I have a playlist about other bamboo tips including a jig to help with control the drilling. List is "BS Joinery"
My first time on your channel. Great Idea that I will be using on the boxes for some of my guitars. Thanks Sentinel Guitars Montana.
Welcome to my shop and thanks.
THANKS for a GREAT tip!
thanks Craig. Hope it helps
thank you very much for the amazing tips. God bless you. best wishes
Thanks Trevor. I have several videos in a playlist ("BS Joinery") with lots of other tips and tricks with the bamboo skewer, including a jig that allows you to drill exact angle and depth for perfect BS joints.
very good idea
Just added to my collection of useful facts. Thank you and I just subscribed.
This is amazing! I’m shocked I didn’t think of this. Thanks for fixing my 3/8 drawer situation!
I have done several more videos about bamboo skewers since this one. My playlist is "BS Joinery" if interested in using them for more things.
@@russveinot5754 thank you so much!
I'm new to woodworking and I really needed this..Awesome! Thanks!
Thanks Linda and welcome to my shop. any question, suggests, or just chat is welcome here. I'm in the shop most days and I answer all questions quickly, usually less than an hour.
Excellent and simple idea Russ! Thanks, I'm in the process of building a off-road camper trailer and the slide out kitchen will be of 1/4" ply. I was planning on reinforcing the joints with fibreglass after building each component, but with this idea could be all I need and get away without fibreglass reinforcement.
You should glass the outside. Whatever finish you use won't be better than glass and gelcoat.
You just solved the problem that’s been keeping me up at night, Russ! Thank you!!!
Thanks Whit. Now go get that good night sleep :>). BTW, I have seral more videos (a playlist named "BS Joinery") about using bamboo skewer joinery, including a jig to help drilling angle and depth of drilling if interested.
Thank you so much for bringing a technical strategy to the use of the simple but important bamboo dowel. lots
Of times the simple strategy is extremely rewarding Thanks so much for explaining their importance Peter.
Thanks Peter for the words of encouragement.
What a killer idea! I love little bursts of genius like that. I’ll be using this strategy to reinforce a little beverage caddy I’m making for my wife out of 1/4” ply. Glad to have found your channel. Thanks!
"A little burst" !?! I'm like this all the time :>). All kidding aside, I have a playlist (BS Joinery) that gives lots of tips and tricks including a jig to control angle and depth of drilling if interested. Thanks, Dillon, for the input and let me know how your project goes.
i try it on a 1/4 cherrywood plywood for a cover , work very well easy to do and extremely solid ! Carl from canada
When I remodeled the kitchen the old cabinets went into the garage for a workbench/storage. Since then, I have overloaded the drawers with tools and supplies. Since the drawers are made of cheap fiberboard, needless to say, the fronts broke off from constantly opening and closing the overloaded drawers. I reattached the fronts using cleats. It worked, but still flimsy at best and it was only a mater of time before it happened again. Gears started turning when I saw this. I drilled 2 hole through the side, cleat and front on both sides. A little glue and some bamboo skewers. Now the drawer is rock solid. Thanks Russ!
Brilliant! Absolutely brilliant!
Brilliant! I'm new to woodworking but felt like a pro when I was able to make some 1/4" plywood butt joints that were super strong.
Thanks, Dean for sharing.
Yeah!!!! I love it! Thank you for the excellent tutorial.
Thanks for the encouraging words, Robin. I hope it helps :>)
I have been using the bamboo skewers for damaged screw holes to hold doors previously, but gluing them up in thin stock for strength is genius so I have bought a packet for the shop and have just used them on some joints and very happy with the result
Thanks Les. I always like hearing how it worked for others.
I have some 6mm ply that I have butt joined and felt it was a bit flimsy. Now I know how to fix it up. Video was bit long winded though.
Great tip ! Thanks