1000% Agree. Its interesting that my most anticipated RPGs are ones I know nothing about atm just because they're from Larian. Used to be Bioware did that for me, now its Larian!
The original Gothic 1 (and 2) was characterised by 2 things: Jank, and one of the most immersive Action RPG worlds ever created. The relatively small playing area is chock full of interesting NPCs to interact with, and nooks and crannies to explore. All while following it's own ruleset, which is communicated to the player character and not the player. For example, multiple NPCs will tell you to avoid the forests early on, guiding you around instead. And if you ignore their warnings, you will very quickly get eaten by wolves (or worse). The only maps you'll ever get are ingame items with fairly crude depictions of the game world. The series has a special place in my heart and I'm naturally wary of the remake, even though I like what I've seen so far.
I would *love* to play a divinity original sin 3, scifi for the other RPG would be an awesome twist but still maintaining the same quality and gameplay loops and processes they've used on other games
@@IDontKnowYouWhoAreYou It is with almost 100 % certainty turn based because that's what Larian enjoys and wants to make. The devs, including Swen himself, have said that multiple times. Larian has already made an action based game as well btw - Divinity II: Ego Draconis (and its expansion pack Divinity II: Flames of Vengeance, the only expansion pack Larian has done). They where not too happy about the game afterwards which is why they returned to turn based games ever since (except their one and only game that is not an RPG: Divinity: Dragon Commander is an RTS). Besides - there are sooooooooooo many action based games out there, we REALLY don't need more of that.
Man I loved Gothic 1 and 2 (Gothic 3, while still enjoyable, just didn't have the same vibe). The characters are great, the setting is brutal at the beginning (you leave the town, go 3 steps into the wrong direction and boom you're wolf fodder). Which makes it all the more satisfying when you slowly start to manage and are able to take on more dangerous enemies. Not to mention that the game doesn't have level based zones. I remember one situation from my first playthrough: I was comparatively low level and exploring a wood near the settlement. I felt very proud that I was able to (carefully) clean out the packs of wolves and scavengers roaming the area when I noticed something larger moving between the trees in the distance. Being super confident in my abilities I went to explore and....the next thing I saw was the Game Over screen. So, what had happened? I had met my first Shadowbeast, a high level monster. But aside from the sometimes brutal difficulty - the game is never unfair. You always get warning signs or can see the potential danger from afar and then decide if you want to explore. And the story of Gothic 1 in particular is unique. The game world is just super immersive. One example: You want a map? Go find one. Or (in Gothic 2) cough up the coin to buy one from the cartographer - and he ain't cheap, at least for the early game (as usual coin is less of a problem in the later game). Depending on the source of the map there might also be small differences. The Open World is done right as well: It's size is not bloated and you find something to explore everywhere, you don't have large areas of nothingness. I'm one of the people who explored the worlds of Gothic 1 and 2 to the very last corner, collecting everything, clearing every cave or ruin (the original games had no respawn - you defeated an enemy, it stays dead. Respawn was tied to reaching milestones in the story instead).
Best things about Gothic were: immersion, exploration, progression, vibes. When you play you become part of the world and forget your worries. In other games you are just gaming, but gothic you feel like you live there. There is no there RPG that rewards you from exploring the map as much as Gothic 1 and 2 the second probably even more. Progression was very meaningful and obvious, unlike games like dark souls where you don't really feel much change from leveling and acquiring new items. And just in general all the design choices, especially the music, make the game feel like something special.
That sounds tremendous! I hope the remake does it justice. It first got on my radar years ago but I didn't get the opportunity to play the demo where they were gauging interest
Unfortunately there is only so many hours to game and I plan to spend time with Dragon Age. That said it is a short delay and many rpg fans are used to waiting.@@RedbeardflynnRollsAOne
I came upon Gothic 1 several years after its release as I never heard of it before. The game still rates for me as one of the top 10 of my favorite RPGS. Yes the graphics were dated and a bit blocky and the controls were a mess (took some time getting use to) but the story was extremely immersive, the plot unique with a lot of depth. It is the first only game where skeletons were downright lethal even at mid level. Pyranha Bytes the studio that produced the game no longer exists so let's hope this studio does it right and actually releases it.
Exactly. Their reputation of "broken glitchy mess upon release" is well deserved which is a shame because they make some very fine games -- after multiple patches fix said glitchy mess.
@@bocconom the only seriously bugged game from obsidian is new vegas, i never heard about buggy launches for pillars 1 and 2 or tiranny or outer worlds, honestly...
@@tuskact4overheaven873 The release of those games had a number of issues but after a number of patches they finally fixed them. Don't get me wrong as i really loved Pillars 1 and 2, especially 2 and its DLCs which were some of the best D6LCs I have ever played.
@gerarderloper The next games will with 100 % certainty not be Icewind Dale 3 or Neverwinter Nights 3 and that has been confirmed by Larian. Both are D&D IPs and Larian has stated that they will do no other D&D games for the forseeable future at least.
Whatever larian makes I'll buy if the quality they put into new games is as equal to bg3 quality. which I'm sure it will be ❤
1000% Agree. Its interesting that my most anticipated RPGs are ones I know nothing about atm just because they're from Larian. Used to be Bioware did that for me, now its Larian!
@@RedbeardflynnRollsAOne it's very exciting!
They’ve done it with all their previous products too. The divinity series is the main reason I funded BG3 early access
You don't have to look at BG3 for quality from Larian Studios. Just play their Original Sin l and ll series. That'll convince you ❤.
The original Gothic 1 (and 2) was characterised by 2 things: Jank, and one of the most immersive Action RPG worlds ever created. The relatively small playing area is chock full of interesting NPCs to interact with, and nooks and crannies to explore. All while following it's own ruleset, which is communicated to the player character and not the player. For example, multiple NPCs will tell you to avoid the forests early on, guiding you around instead. And if you ignore their warnings, you will very quickly get eaten by wolves (or worse).
The only maps you'll ever get are ingame items with fairly crude depictions of the game world.
The series has a special place in my heart and I'm naturally wary of the remake, even though I like what I've seen so far.
I am 100% sure that one of those games is Definity Origin Sin 3 the other will be another crpg sci fi shooter similar to Fallout but their own ip!
I would *love* to play a divinity original sin 3, scifi for the other RPG would be an awesome twist but still maintaining the same quality and gameplay loops and processes they've used on other games
I NEED Divinity Original Sin 3 in my life so badly. I absolutely adore those games. 😊
@@RedbeardflynnRollsAOne i just hope the scifi is not turn base i am tired of turn base games :(
I think they should ditch divinity franchise and make a new IP
@@IDontKnowYouWhoAreYou It is with almost 100 % certainty turn based because that's what Larian enjoys and wants to make. The devs, including Swen himself, have said that multiple times.
Larian has already made an action based game as well btw - Divinity II: Ego Draconis (and its expansion pack Divinity II: Flames of Vengeance, the only expansion pack Larian has done). They where not too happy about the game afterwards which is why they returned to turn based games ever since (except their one and only game that is not an RPG: Divinity: Dragon Commander is an RTS).
Besides - there are sooooooooooo many action based games out there, we REALLY don't need more of that.
Man I loved Gothic 1 and 2 (Gothic 3, while still enjoyable, just didn't have the same vibe).
The characters are great, the setting is brutal at the beginning (you leave the town, go 3 steps into the wrong direction and boom you're wolf fodder). Which makes it all the more satisfying when you slowly start to manage and are able to take on more dangerous enemies.
Not to mention that the game doesn't have level based zones.
I remember one situation from my first playthrough: I was comparatively low level and exploring a wood near the settlement. I felt very proud that I was able to (carefully) clean out the packs of wolves and scavengers roaming the area when I noticed something larger moving between the trees in the distance. Being super confident in my abilities I went to explore and....the next thing I saw was the Game Over screen. So, what had happened? I had met my first Shadowbeast, a high level monster.
But aside from the sometimes brutal difficulty - the game is never unfair. You always get warning signs or can see the potential danger from afar and then decide if you want to explore.
And the story of Gothic 1 in particular is unique.
The game world is just super immersive. One example: You want a map? Go find one. Or (in Gothic 2) cough up the coin to buy one from the cartographer - and he ain't cheap, at least for the early game (as usual coin is less of a problem in the later game). Depending on the source of the map there might also be small differences. The Open World is done right as well: It's size is not bloated and you find something to explore everywhere, you don't have large areas of nothingness.
I'm one of the people who explored the worlds of Gothic 1 and 2 to the very last corner, collecting everything, clearing every cave or ruin (the original games had no respawn - you defeated an enemy, it stays dead. Respawn was tied to reaching milestones in the story instead).
Best things about Gothic were: immersion, exploration, progression, vibes. When you play you become part of the world and forget your worries. In other games you are just gaming, but gothic you feel like you live there. There is no there RPG that rewards you from exploring the map as much as Gothic 1 and 2 the second probably even more. Progression was very meaningful and obvious, unlike games like dark souls where you don't really feel much change from leveling and acquiring new items. And just in general all the design choices, especially the music, make the game feel like something special.
That sounds tremendous! I hope the remake does it justice. It first got on my radar years ago but I didn't get the opportunity to play the demo where they were gauging interest
I hope Larian gets to bring us The Stormlight CRPG.
After watching DAV trailer I understand more why Avowed was moved
That link goes to an Avowed article, not a Larian interview.
Thank you for the updates. You always deliver with humor. It will be intetesting to see if Avowed's delay will result in.
Unfortunately there is only so many hours to game and I plan to spend time with Dragon Age. That said it is a short delay and many rpg fans are used to waiting.@@RedbeardflynnRollsAOne
Best thing with gothic 1 is freedom and what npc wear and sell is what you can get in anyway you want.
I came upon Gothic 1 several years after its release as I never heard of it before. The game still rates for me as one of the top 10 of my favorite RPGS. Yes the graphics were dated and a bit blocky and the controls were a mess (took some time getting use to) but the story was extremely immersive, the plot unique with a lot of depth. It is the first only game where skeletons were downright lethal even at mid level. Pyranha Bytes the studio that produced the game no longer exists so let's hope this studio does it right and actually releases it.
Well Avowed does need a lot more polishing before a final release. The last thing Obsidian need is a broken glitchy mess upon release.
Exactly. Their reputation of "broken glitchy mess upon release" is well deserved which is a shame because they make some very fine games -- after multiple patches fix said glitchy mess.
@@bocconom the only seriously bugged game from obsidian is new vegas, i never heard about buggy launches for pillars 1 and 2 or tiranny or outer worlds, honestly...
@@tuskact4overheaven873 The release of those games had a number of issues but after a number of patches they finally fixed them. Don't get me wrong as i really loved Pillars 1 and 2, especially 2 and its DLCs which were some of the best D6LCs I have ever played.
@@bocconom oh ok, I am playing pillars 2 recently and it's a blast, like the first one 🙂
@@tuskact4overheaven873 Have a great time and, seriously, try the DLCs.
5:46 Larian
Thank you. Can't bother to watch if they can't bother with timestamps. Was about to click away then saw your comment.
Larian being given fallout would be … 🎉
want larian to team up with owlcat
Larians next game will probably be Icewind Dale 3 or Neverwinter Nights 3. Both BIG BIG titles if they were to happen.
Don't count on it. Swen doesn't seem keen to work with WOTC ever again. Expect their own IP's for the foreseeable future
@@Dr_Bille true
@@Dr_Bille they also have unlimited creative freedom with their own ips where they were limited by what dnd had in its rulebooks
@gerarderloper The next games will with 100 % certainty not be Icewind Dale 3 or Neverwinter Nights 3 and that has been confirmed by Larian.
Both are D&D IPs and Larian has stated that they will do no other D&D games for the forseeable future at least.
Not just WoTC, they apparently have a good relationship with WoTC still. They just want to do their own IP.
Yea you can keep veilguard. What they released looks like garbage. Maybe when it goes on sale it will be worth a look.
I don't know why excactly, but I have zero excitement for Avowed.
If avowed is anything like the outer worlds, it's gonna be a stinker.