A lovely bottle of Stout you can sometimes get from the Lidl Beer Festival when it's on. Is March Of The Penquins 4.9% By the brewery Williams & Bros from Scotland. It's has good as Black Sheep 4.4% Milk Stout. And St Peters 6.5% Cream Stout.
The xx guiness stuff is good, and I do really respect guinness for not joining in with the 'craft' wave of marketing and instead producing beers from their history. I wish more British isles breweries had responded like that tbh.
If any brewery wants to brew a stout with more body, then the simple answer, is increase the strike temperature up to 77c or at the top end 78c this higher hot liquor temperature will produce more Alpha Enzymes which give the beer more body it’s like having a fulfilling liquid meal the lower the Strike Temperature gives Beta Enzymes which gives a beer lesser body, why they never you would need to have a deep conversation with the Head Brewer get on to them Simon and simply ask the question. Love the content .
I like Guinness, especially in Ireland where everything is done right, temperature (not to cold) allowed to stand (they are half poured in preparation for serving) out of the can not bad. Forged is better than Guinness out of the can. In recent months when i have a stout evening on a Saturday night at home i mix it up, 1. Two cans of Guinness or Forged 2. Two bottles of Mena dhu stout (St. Austell), 3. Two bottles of Whitstable Bay Black Stout, 4. Two bottles of Badgers Master Stoat Coffee Stout or Aldi's Coffee Stout (both superb) sleep very well and wake up with no hangover, very enjoyable. As for Old Midnight Hen will give it a try when i can get hold of it as i am a big fan of Old Golden Hen.
The two pour allowing to stand thing is just marketing now, it harks back to a time when stout/porter in Ireland was served from two different barrels and combined into one glass. Nowadays it makes no difference other than a slightly domed head.
Guinness is well made considering the volume produced and its a nice holiday breakfast starter. Great with a full English. Adnams Broadside is a great winter beer and is available most places.
I urge you to try and get a pint of Wye Valley Nightjar Stout. Sadly only available in their pubs around Hereford and Worcester. But i think it's delicious!!
Shepherd Neame’s Whitstable Bay Black Stout on draft was a genuine contender for Guinness. It started to outsell the big G across all their pubs until Guinness paid an undisclosed sum of money for sheps to take it off the taps. You can still find it in the occasional free house if you’re lucky. In my opinion I preferred it to Guinness as it had way more flavour. (Unfortunately the bottled version is a completely different beer)
I think the reason Guinness does so well is people drink with their eyes and Guinness is definitely pleasing on the eyes. Also the bland taste is appealing to the younger generation it’s kinda like how you get youngins drinking coors light it’s bland but drinkable Guinness is that in the stout world. For example I’m not a stout drinker but I could drink a few pints of Guinness and enjoy it, my dad’s a stout drinker and can’t stand the stuff l. They’ve hit onto a market of people who aren’t stout drinkers but will drink Guinness because of how it looks and how easy it is to drink
@KieranLiiv It’s the nitro that gives Guinness the look and makes easy drinking, nitro reduces the flavour, makes a creamy looking foam and artificially smoothens the texture. 95% of Guinness drinkers won’t drink it out the bottle (without nitro) where they’ll taste it’s true flavour.
Well I paid £6.50!!! For a can of big G at a Carlisle United match. I honestly thought it was poor. The previous week I got a good stout from the West Walls brewing company for 5.50. If you’re ever in Cumbria Hesket new market does a brilliant Stout called Black sail!!!!! It’s amazing. The Dent brewery did some good stuff once upon a time. That coffee stout from Aldi! Love that
I agree completely with your comments about Guinness, what an odd tampered-with 'beer' that is, I can't believe the crap we get in the can is anything like the original recipe.
We used to go camping at Silverstone for the MG car club race weekend. If the weather was warm I'd always get a load of old speckled hen, didn't matter if it was warm 😁 You can't beat Samuel Smith's oatmeal stout
Northern Monk have done a collaboration with Timothy Taylor, Northern Rising, Unity Stout which is nice. 4pk in Morrisons. Stout is definitely being pushed by more breweries I think.
you nail it in one ,to thin like so many other breweries all chaceing that what I called the middle market,ie£2.00-£2.50 a bottle,I don't purchase any of them I save my money and buy good quality stouts ,Sam Smith's,oat meal stouts,there chocolate stourt,a bit sweet,black sheep milk stourt,London stourt,theastons stouts,just to name a few,it's funny Guinness can do quality ,not that mass produce rubbish that's everywhere,but some off there bottles like Guinness porter,there extra stourt..some pubs are now stopping selling Guinness because of the price ,I went into a club and they wanted £6.50,for a Guinness I refused to pay and left,I went to my local Sam Smith pub and paid £3.40 for extra stourt,better abv,and not nitro rubbish,stout drinkers need to stop been lazies and find alternative to macro brewed Guinness,if I fancy that nitro style I go for London black or black hart ,or two from O'Hara and,sorry forgot the brand,i purchase a bottle of coffee stout from Aldi in special range and it was really good even though a don't like coffee price was £1.70 a bottle bottle,keep up the good work
I do like trying these stouts, but I want a stronger abv, I know you cant get anything strong in supermarkets now, not unless you're paying £3.50 plus for one bottle
Guinness brewed and drunk over in Ireland is much nicer than Guinness brewed in UK, in my opinion. I quite like it, have you tried the Love Lane Christmas pudding and custard stout sold in Home Bargains? Worth a review, I really liked it too.
@VictheSecret I stand corrected. It's must be the Mandela Effect or something, the last Tim I bought Guinness from the supermarket in the UK it said it was brewed in the UK. I only ever drink it when I visit Ireland, although there are much better Irish Stouts available when you're in Ireland.
I really miss Murphys in the cans that was my favourite mass produced smooth stout. I know some Pubs still have that one on tap but its hard to find. Brewdog did an ok attempt and Camden missed the mark they both wont topple Guinness. Fullers black cab stout is also worth a mention that is really good just not a smooth one.
You actually point out who has the better stout than the Big G in the second minute of this video, Anspach and Hobday London Black is a way better Stout/Porter, thing is its not cheap.
Are you going to GBBF in 2025 in BIRMINGHAM?! As a cider drinker I'm hyped that it's come so close to me in the Midlands and could offer some good ciders and perries 🎉
Simon while your on stout review the tim taylor and nothern monk collaboration. its decent but gutted it didn't really work with the guiness nitro surger cap
Had several pints of Northern Rising Unity Stout in my local Timothy Taylor's pub the other weekend. It's bang on in the pub, not sure what it's like out of a can.
I'm a homebrewer. When I run out and are forced to buy overpriced beer, I'll buy the Big G. For a massive brewery, the black stuff isn't too bad. If I'm in the average pubs with only Madri or Carling it's always a Big G. They got something right.
That's a pretty good stout in my opinion. I don't think you've helped yourself by putting a bottled ale in a craft beer glass. That's why the head quickly went.
Impy Stouts for me this time of year, I used to drink Murphy's and Beamish back in the day. I thought they were nicer than Guinness. But we all have different tastes. I do think Micro Breweries produce Fantastic Porters and Stouts though. Especially this time of year ⛄🏂🤶☃️🎄🍻🍻🍻🍻
Guinness isn’t great, in fact it is boring imo but I suspect that is what they want; something relatively dull, sweet and inoffensive for the masses that is cheap to produce so they can spend incredible amount on marketing. Personally if I am looking for a decent value nitro stout I would take Black Heart over it. At least you can taste the roasty notes as you should in a stout but that isn’t going to blow anyone’s socks off either.
I often see Simon taking points off his reviews due to the beer not being quite what it should be ..but he renamed this as a mild and let it slide because of his Guinness hatred but I’ve got to say there’s more chance of Bob’s burger van taking McDonald’s off its perch than another stout taking Guinness off theirs.
Never had it but camden stout can't have been that good. It's in home bargains for 99p a can now. Not a one off either its been there for months at that price. Massive drop in price.
For once I will disagree, Guinness do a great job and I for one never wake up with a banging headache after a few. I do like and buy stouts from everyone as its a favourite but it is hard to find a session stout which is why the big G do so well.
Guinness isn't a stout at all is it? I thought it was supposed to be a porter. Doesn't matter to me really, as I've never been impressed with it. The West Indies Porter or the Export from Nigeria are different propositions. After what GK did to Morlands (and other breweries), and to OSH in particular I avoid drinking their beers at all if I can.
Guinness is a good drop. It’s not craft beer but for a mass produced product it’s easy drinking a one decent. Personally, I don’t think you can call yourself a proper beer reviewer without trying Guinness in Ireland.
The Guinness at my old golf club is as good as it is in Ireland apparently. This is what I've been told from the mature members from Ireland... all of whom are big United fans and put away gallons of booze.
The "Try it in Ireland" is horseshit, pardon my French. Its like a cheap French provence rosé tastes great on the beach at a seaside resort on the Med. On a wet Novermber day in Basingstoke, not so much. Same product, same glass bottle, same glasses, different setting. Guinness is far less bitter, and to my taste, thinner, and less flavourful than it was when I started drinking in the 80's. It's a poor imitation, it's lost a lot of those "coffee" notes, and roasted mouthfeel, with a lot of that slightly acidic bittness taken out.
Gk bought the Morlands Brewery, closed it, moved Old Speckled Hen to Bury St Edmunds with a different recipe. Then they watered the ABV down because it was in competition with Abbott (and tasted way better even after GK tampered with the recipe). OSH now is not even remotely like Morlands OSH, and because GL now plaster the Hen name onto any old beer it's become meaningless.
@KieronMarcH-y2w 90% of Guinness drinkers won’t drink the bottled stuff. They’ll only drink the nitro version which hides Guinnesses true flavour and makes the texture artificially smooth. It’s also served at 3°c making it the only ale served colder than lager, it might actually be the coldest beer. Near freezing temperature to hide its actual flavour even more.
These Stouts need to somehow get into pubs if they're ever going to be a real competitor and create a community folklore around their stout. But what average pub landlord will be brave enough to take a hit on profits by removing the (bizarrely) 1 stout tap that Guinness "owns"? There are some incredible heavy draught stouts out there that absolutely murder Guinness. Adnams Blackshore and St. Austell's Mena Dhu to name 2. Unfortunately you only really see Blackshore in Adnams pubs in Suffolk and Mena Dhu in Cornwall But these Stouts aren't really going up againts the Guinness itself, it's their marketing, folklore and theatre. The totally unnecessary 2 step pour that makes you wait in anticipation thus thinking about Guiness more. Splitting the G, essentially drinking half a pint so you buy another quicker, it tastes better in the Mecca of Ireland etc. Basically a ton of brainwashing which I can't see being unravelled anytime soon by people that don't really care and just want "what they know" Guinness have even recently created a draught "shortage" thus a fear which makes people want it more and if they can't get it in a pub they'll buy the crappy cans. Genius when you think about it... And that's what the big G really is. Genius.
I'll have to pop into Sainsbury's and pick up a few bottles of Hen beers. They have a 4 for £7 Nectar deal last I checked. On another note I checked Guinness and it's rated at 3.75 on Untapped! To me that's a crazy rating for something so... alright. Like 6.5/7 out of 10 beer which is decent but doesn't keep me coming back for more. P.S. "Big G" sounds like someone's fat mate
I like your channel Si but that nonsense you’ve just spouted about Guinness being Sirupy and giving you a headache after 3 pints because of it is a load of bullshit. I’ve had many a night drinking more than 3 pints and I felt fine. If you don’t like Guinness it’s fair enough, but to spread nonsense about it being brewed with Sirup etc. is slanderous and unfair IMO.
Ha, I agree, the channel is generally good but he can stagger off into the weeds with a nonsense waffle at times! 😂 Unfortunately I feel that the exuberance of the early days has gone and now he has entered ‘jaded and miserable old git’ territory. 🙄
Tried the Hawkstone Black last night Simon. Yuk, tasted like the bottom of a grow bag! I think there is something wrong with the batch, going to try another tonight but might have to call Hawkstone and have a chat with them! If you want to PM me an address I will happily send you a can!
Isn't Morland just another example of a modest size regional brewer, who had an "ok for the time" product, who got bought out in the fight for "craft" brands by some mega brewer who then sacked everyone,closed the factory, "expanded" the range to a range of things they never made before and had no xpertise or knowledge of, at some anonymous factory unit, at some mega brewery, no doubt using the same crappy Buron on Trent water, and then halved the price and quality, and lowered abv, basically changing the succussful product they originally captured, to get it in supermarkets at £1.99 or less? Rince and repeat with Camden, Beavertown, ect ect ect.... These people make me sick. And so does their beer.
Guinness make another black liquid called West Indies Porter - now that's a fantastic beer
And the Foreign Export brewed in Nigeria is fantastic and the closest we can buy to the original recipe. 7.5% in a 750ml bottle too ! 👌
West Indies Porter is a wonderful beer totally agree.
The West Indies Porter is my favourite from the “Big G”.
Nigerian export big G?
Love a stout beer in the winter!
Fullers black cab stout, that's a nice stout at 4.5%, underrated to be fair.
I do like a bottle of badger stoat coffee stout, easy to find at supermarkets
A lovely bottle of Stout you can sometimes get from the Lidl Beer Festival when it's on. Is March Of The Penquins 4.9% By the brewery Williams & Bros from Scotland.
It's has good as Black Sheep 4.4% Milk Stout.
And St Peters 6.5% Cream Stout.
The xx guiness stuff is good, and I do really respect guinness for not joining in with the 'craft' wave of marketing and instead producing beers from their history. I wish more British isles breweries had responded like that tbh.
If any brewery wants to brew a stout with more body, then the simple answer, is increase the strike temperature up to 77c or at the top end 78c this higher hot liquor temperature will produce more Alpha Enzymes which give the beer more body it’s like having a fulfilling liquid meal the lower the Strike Temperature gives Beta Enzymes which gives a beer lesser body, why they never you would need to have a deep conversation with the Head Brewer get on to them Simon and simply ask the question. Love the content .
I tried this the other day. Really enjoyed it. They need to get it on cask!
Forged is the best stout at the moment and would be number 1 in my opinion if it wasn't exclusive to asda
Had it in my local pub , very nice
I like Guinness, especially in Ireland where everything is done right, temperature (not to cold) allowed to stand (they are half poured in preparation for serving) out of the can not bad. Forged is better than Guinness out of the can. In recent months when i have a stout evening on a Saturday night at home i mix it up, 1. Two cans of Guinness or Forged 2. Two bottles of Mena dhu stout (St. Austell), 3. Two bottles of Whitstable Bay Black Stout, 4. Two bottles of Badgers Master Stoat Coffee Stout or Aldi's Coffee Stout (both superb) sleep very well and wake up with no hangover, very enjoyable. As for Old Midnight Hen will give it a try when i can get hold of it as i am a big fan of Old Golden Hen.
The two pour allowing to stand thing is just marketing now, it harks back to a time when stout/porter in Ireland was served from two different barrels and combined into one glass. Nowadays it makes no difference other than a slightly domed head.
Guinness is well made considering the volume produced and its a nice holiday breakfast starter. Great with a full English. Adnams Broadside is a great winter beer and is available most places.
I urge you to try and get a pint of Wye Valley Nightjar Stout. Sadly only available in their pubs around Hereford and Worcester. But i think it's delicious!!
Mentioned this before on here, had it in a pub in Cheltenham on draught, was delightful
Slizza pizza in Cardiff has it on tap
Nightjar is a superb stout. We have that at a few pubs in Warwickshire.
You should try Adnams Black shore stout as well Simon.
There's a stout by St Austell you can find in Asda, which might be a good alternative to you know who.
I love St Austell. Beautiful area.
Shepherd Neame’s Whitstable Bay Black Stout on draft was a genuine contender for Guinness. It started to outsell the big G across all their pubs until Guinness paid an undisclosed sum of money for sheps to take it off the taps. You can still find it in the occasional free house if you’re lucky. In my opinion I preferred it to Guinness as it had way more flavour. (Unfortunately the bottled version is a completely different beer)
If I see this beer I will try it as I like dark mild ales
Whatever it's failings, or people's personal dislikes. 'Sweet' is not a word I would use when describing Guinness.
I think the reason Guinness does so well is people drink with their eyes and Guinness is definitely pleasing on the eyes. Also the bland taste is appealing to the younger generation it’s kinda like how you get youngins drinking coors light it’s bland but drinkable Guinness is that in the stout world. For example I’m not a stout drinker but I could drink a few pints of Guinness and enjoy it, my dad’s a stout drinker and can’t stand the stuff l. They’ve hit onto a market of people who aren’t stout drinkers but will drink Guinness because of how it looks and how easy it is to drink
@KieranLiiv
It’s the nitro that gives Guinness the look and makes easy drinking, nitro reduces the flavour, makes a creamy looking foam and artificially smoothens the texture.
95% of Guinness drinkers won’t drink it out the bottle (without nitro) where they’ll taste it’s true flavour.
If its a mild i would love it. I miss decent mild beer
Guinness Foreign Extra, lovely.
Packs a big punch.
Hi Simon if you can find it try mauldons black adder I think that's a great stout.
I had one called midnight bell a while ago. Was nice, haven't seen it about anymore though.
Well I paid £6.50!!! For a can of big G at a Carlisle United match. I honestly thought it was poor.
The previous week I got a good stout from the West Walls brewing company for 5.50.
If you’re ever in Cumbria Hesket new market does a brilliant Stout called Black sail!!!!! It’s amazing.
The Dent brewery did some good stuff once upon a time.
That coffee stout from Aldi! Love that
Yeah, tried the coffee stout, quite flavourful
I agree completely with your comments about Guinness, what an odd tampered-with 'beer' that is, I can't believe the crap we get in the can is anything like the original recipe.
We used to go camping at Silverstone for the MG car club race weekend. If the weather was warm I'd always get a load of old speckled hen, didn't matter if it was warm 😁 You can't beat Samuel Smith's oatmeal stout
Brew Wales has someone called Arthur Daley!! That must be a tough name to do business with.
Do they have an on-site Winchester Club?
Northern Monk have done a collaboration with Timothy Taylor, Northern Rising, Unity Stout which is nice. 4pk in Morrisons. Stout is definitely being pushed by more breweries I think.
I'm a big fan of Guinness but not really fond of other stouts. Although, I may give this one a try.
Keep up the great reviews 👍
Guinness on tap is tasteless,there are loads of good independent breweries doing good stourt,like Samuel Smith extra stourt
you nail it in one ,to thin like so many other breweries all chaceing that what I called the middle market,ie£2.00-£2.50 a bottle,I don't purchase any of them I save my money and buy good quality stouts ,Sam Smith's,oat meal stouts,there chocolate stourt,a bit sweet,black sheep milk stourt,London stourt,theastons stouts,just to name a few,it's funny Guinness can do quality ,not that mass produce rubbish that's everywhere,but some off there bottles like Guinness porter,there extra stourt..some pubs are now stopping selling Guinness because of the price ,I went into a club and they wanted £6.50,for a Guinness I refused to pay and left,I went to my local Sam Smith pub and paid £3.40 for extra stourt,better abv,and not nitro rubbish,stout drinkers need to stop been lazies and find alternative to macro brewed Guinness,if I fancy that nitro style I go for London black or black hart ,or two from O'Hara and,sorry forgot the brand,i purchase a bottle of coffee stout from Aldi in special range and it was really good even though a don't like coffee price was £1.70 a bottle bottle,keep up the good work
I do like trying these stouts, but I want a stronger abv, I know you cant get anything strong in supermarkets now, not unless you're paying £3.50 plus for one bottle
What about if gk were to nitro this up in a can would you prefer it?
I have been spoiled drinking Fauna Porter from my local brewery on draft. Nothing else comes close.
Good review 👍
Have you tired the Cornish stout from St. austell brewery, Mena Dhu, it's brilliant much better than the big G, brewed in Cornwall aswel! 👏🏻
St Austell rock,never been dissapointed.
Guinness brewed and drunk over in Ireland is much nicer than Guinness brewed in UK, in my opinion. I quite like it, have you tried the Love Lane Christmas pudding and custard stout sold in Home Bargains? Worth a review, I really liked it too.
Guinness isn't brewed in the UK and hasn't been since 2005. It's no different there or here in the UK.
@VictheSecret I stand corrected. It's must be the Mandela Effect or something, the last Tim I bought Guinness from the supermarket in the UK it said it was brewed in the UK. I only ever drink it when I visit Ireland, although there are much better Irish Stouts available when you're in Ireland.
@@VictheSecretyou are wrong
@@louisbeerreviews8964 Don't be ridiculous. Clown.
Please review Adnams Blackshore Stout
I really miss Murphys in the cans that was my favourite mass produced smooth stout. I know some Pubs still have that one on tap but its hard to find. Brewdog did an ok attempt and Camden missed the mark they both wont topple Guinness. Fullers black cab stout is also worth a mention that is really good just not a smooth one.
Greene King??? 0:05 seconds - do they make this beer? I didnt know that
You actually point out who has the better stout than the Big G in the second minute of this video, Anspach and Hobday London Black is a way better Stout/Porter, thing is its not cheap.
Are you going to GBBF in 2025 in BIRMINGHAM?! As a cider drinker I'm hyped that it's come so close to me in the Midlands and could offer some good ciders and perries 🎉
Simon while your on stout review the tim taylor and nothern monk collaboration. its decent but gutted it didn't really work with the guiness nitro surger cap
That beer is nice
Had several pints of Northern Rising Unity Stout in my local Timothy Taylor's pub the other weekend.
It's bang on in the pub, not sure what it's like out of a can.
I love old crafty hen! Shame their stout isn’t so good. Bristol Beer factory Milk Stout is my favourite stout.
I'm a homebrewer. When I run out and are forced to buy overpriced beer, I'll buy the Big G. For a massive brewery, the black stuff isn't too bad. If I'm in the average pubs with only Madri or Carling it's always a Big G. They got something right.
That's a pretty good stout in my opinion. I don't think you've helped yourself by putting a bottled ale in a craft beer glass. That's why the head quickly went.
It used to be called porter? (London porter?) I want my local to do a porter but they obsessed with IPA.
Aldi coffee stout is very nice
Where can I buy decent mild beer. I e cains
Impy Stouts for me this time of year, I used to drink Murphy's and Beamish back in the day. I thought they were nicer than Guinness. But we all have different tastes. I do think Micro Breweries produce Fantastic Porters and Stouts though. Especially this time of year ⛄🏂🤶☃️🎄🍻🍻🍻🍻
How can you call Morland Old Midnight a 'delicious English stout' before you've even opened the bottle and tasted it?
Why use clear glass?
Agreed. Its just wrong.
It's marketing and I think all their beers are in clear glass. They want people to see the beer, not just a brown bottle.
Just inviting light strike,just sitting on a shelf for who knows how long.
This is actually a very good stout but Simon's preconceptions and prejudices will always get the better of him.
Guinness isn’t great, in fact it is boring imo but I suspect that is what they want; something relatively dull, sweet and inoffensive for the masses that is cheap to produce so they can spend incredible amount on marketing.
Personally if I am looking for a decent value nitro stout I would take Black Heart over it. At least you can taste the roasty notes as you should in a stout but that isn’t going to blow anyone’s socks off either.
I often see Simon taking points off his reviews due to the beer not being quite what it should be ..but he renamed this as a mild and let it slide because of his Guinness hatred but I’ve got to say there’s more chance of Bob’s burger van taking McDonald’s off its perch than another stout taking Guinness off theirs.
Never had it but camden stout can't have been that good. It's in home bargains for 99p a can now. Not a one off either its been there for months at that price. Massive drop in price.
the big "g" was mentioned more than the beer being reviewed.
For once I will disagree, Guinness do a great job and I for one never wake up with a banging headache after a few. I do like and buy stouts from everyone as its a favourite but it is hard to find a session stout which is why the big G do so well.
It shouldn't be compared to Guinness, I mean the Big G! 🤫
I think you need to go to Dublin and give a proper G a go.
Guinness isn't a stout at all is it? I thought it was supposed to be a porter. Doesn't matter to me really, as I've never been impressed with it. The West Indies Porter or the Export from Nigeria are different propositions. After what GK did to Morlands (and other breweries), and to OSH in particular I avoid drinking their beers at all if I can.
I think I'll give that a miss. Great review though.
Guinness is a good drop. It’s not craft beer but for a mass produced product it’s easy drinking a one decent. Personally, I don’t think you can call yourself a proper beer reviewer without trying Guinness in Ireland.
The Guinness at my old golf club is as good as it is in Ireland apparently. This is what I've been told from the mature members from Ireland... all of whom are big United fans and put away gallons of booze.
Totally agree with you.
The "Try it in Ireland" is horseshit, pardon my French. Its like a cheap French provence rosé tastes great on the beach at a seaside resort on the Med. On a wet Novermber day in Basingstoke, not so much. Same product, same glass bottle, same glasses, different setting.
Guinness is far less bitter, and to my taste, thinner, and less flavourful than it was when I started drinking in the 80's. It's a poor imitation, it's lost a lot of those "coffee" notes, and roasted mouthfeel, with a lot of that slightly acidic bittness taken out.
It's nicer in Ireland
@@JB-rn4ysit is exactly the same.
I neve knew green king owned moreland I like old speckled hen but I think green king ipa is disgusting. I agree with you about Guinness not nice.
Try abbot ale or it's reserve by them
Gk bought the Morlands Brewery, closed it, moved Old Speckled Hen to Bury St Edmunds with a different recipe. Then they watered the ABV down because it was in competition with Abbott (and tasted way better even after GK tampered with the recipe). OSH now is not even remotely like Morlands OSH, and because GL now plaster the Hen name onto any old beer it's become meaningless.
@@malthuswasright but what about old crafty hen surely that gets you back to something stronger and abbot reserve competes well with it?
Guinness original is ok, draft Guinness is just a bit meh, not bad but not great.
I agree Guinness is very dull hardly any flavour and pretty poor really , forged Irish stout is a much better session stout .
@KieronMarcH-y2w
90% of Guinness drinkers won’t drink the bottled stuff.
They’ll only drink the nitro version which hides Guinnesses true flavour and makes the texture artificially smooth.
It’s also served at 3°c making it the only ale served colder than lager, it might actually be the coldest beer.
Near freezing temperature to hide its actual flavour even more.
These Stouts need to somehow get into pubs if they're ever going to be a real competitor and create a community folklore around their stout.
But what average pub landlord will be brave enough to take a hit on profits by removing the (bizarrely) 1 stout tap that Guinness "owns"?
There are some incredible heavy draught stouts out there that absolutely murder Guinness. Adnams Blackshore and St. Austell's Mena Dhu to name 2.
Unfortunately you only really see Blackshore in Adnams pubs in Suffolk and Mena Dhu in Cornwall
But these Stouts aren't really going up againts the Guinness itself, it's their marketing, folklore and theatre.
The totally unnecessary 2 step pour that makes you wait in anticipation thus thinking about Guiness more. Splitting the G, essentially drinking half a pint so you buy another quicker, it tastes better in the Mecca of Ireland etc.
Basically a ton of brainwashing
which I can't see being unravelled anytime soon by people that don't really care and just want "what they know"
Guinness have even recently created a draught "shortage" thus a fear which makes people want it more and if they can't get it in a pub they'll buy the crappy cans.
Genius when you think about it...
And that's what the big G really is. Genius.
Personally prefer Murphys over The Big G
I'll have to pop into Sainsbury's and pick up a few bottles of Hen beers. They have a 4 for £7 Nectar deal last I checked.
On another note I checked Guinness and it's rated at 3.75 on Untapped! To me that's a crazy rating for something so... alright. Like 6.5/7 out of 10 beer which is decent but doesn't keep me coming back for more.
P.S. "Big G" sounds like someone's fat mate
Could of topped it up before diving into it
I like your channel Si but that nonsense you’ve just spouted about Guinness being Sirupy and giving you a headache after 3 pints because of it is a load of bullshit. I’ve had many a night drinking more than 3 pints and I felt fine. If you don’t like Guinness it’s fair enough, but to spread nonsense about it being brewed with Sirup etc. is slanderous and unfair IMO.
Ha, I agree, the channel is generally good but he can stagger off into the weeds with a nonsense waffle at times! 😂 Unfortunately I feel that the exuberance of the early days has gone and now he has entered ‘jaded and miserable old git’ territory. 🙄
SPOKO 😅😅😅😉
Tried the Hawkstone Black last night Simon. Yuk, tasted like the bottom of a grow bag! I think there is something wrong with the batch, going to try another tonight but might have to call Hawkstone and have a chat with them! If you want to PM me an address I will happily send you a can!
It’s from the brewing clowns at Greene King. What do you expect? Re the Big G - you do really talk some absolute shite! 😂
Shut up greene king isn’t clowns
@ Learn English. Bellend.
The only good beer the Big G makes is their export stout.
Apple are lazy they prove it every year when they launch a slightly better phone, a phone that has feature 2 years behind Android
Isn't Morland just another example of a modest size regional brewer, who had an "ok for the time" product, who got bought out in the fight for "craft" brands by some mega brewer who then sacked everyone,closed the factory, "expanded" the range to a range of things they never made before and had no xpertise or knowledge of, at some anonymous factory unit, at some mega brewery, no doubt using the same crappy Buron on Trent water, and then halved the price and quality, and lowered abv, basically changing the succussful product they originally captured, to get it in supermarkets at £1.99 or less?
Rince and repeat with Camden, Beavertown, ect ect ect....
These people make me sick. And so does their beer.
Agreed & nobody wants a thin stout!
cans of G no , proper pint in the right pub yes...
The draught Big G in cans is AWFUL, tastless caramel like water ! 🤮
A thought you said callum mcreggers forged Scottish stout was better than the big G 🤷🏻♂️