Sadia is right. If a woman cheats, she belongs to the streets. It wasn't a mistake, it was a decision. She doesn't respect you and any trust you had with her is gone. Leave and heal, then live a good life.
Thise who stay never get over it and adapt to living a miserable life. I always read their stories on reddit. Not a single happy man amongst those who decided to stay with a cheating woman.
If she doesn't respect you, she can't love you. She'll start by treating you like chit, and start shopping for a new man. If she has single friends that talk up the single life, She'll head for the streets .
@@robertnoble6661 Yes he has a very successful channel, he saw a market opportunity and hard work, but he will have you beleive he's trying to help people find love, which I don't beleive
@@gaddaitherage8204 He is like steve harvey...he knows whats up but he plays the game cause he found a niche where women willingly pay him to get lied to.......i respect the hustle...
Arguing with logic is arguing with facts. We dont have the statistics on this. Also logic is to understand that both of them are obviously correct to some degree since nothing is definative, but at most a generality
His audience is mostly women if you've ever seen his presentations. He is deliberately putting up this show to enable and excuse delusional women. A wolf in sheep's clothing, he is. She is trying to earn credibility with the male audience on RUclips and is simply parroting what other Male Manosphere Influencers have already established and shared.
Exactly. Forgivness is not the same as trust. You might forgive a child molester - but if you ever trust them again, you're a fool. Naturally a cheater isn't at the same level as a child molester, and forgiving her only helps YOU - but trust her to never again give someone else the part of her that she should only give you is just stupid.
She’s right and he is a fool. This man obviously doesn’t know female nature. Once a woman loses respect for you the relationship is over, there is no going back. Move on!
I believe you should forgive the woman AND end the relationship. In order to move on, you must release those negative emotions like bitterness, anger and resentment. She is telling us how most women see men before and after they cheat. Fellas should probably listen.
Precisely, forgiving an offense is not the same as pardoning the offense. I can forgive someone for disrespecting me, but that doesn't mean that I will pardon such disrespect.
He got COOKED in this debate!!! His delusional take on forgiveness will lead many men to accept gaslighting and false promises. Cheating men think with their little head but cheating women think with their hearts and leave the relationship emotionally before the man ever had a clue.
She is 100% spot on. I wish I heard this back when I was dealing with a partner who was having an affair. I sadly and mistakenly did nothing but extend the inevitable by trying to make it work. The girl I was with had already checked out. We had two different views on the relationship. The disrespect, the lies, the manipulations, the deceit, etc.. is absolutely disgusting. There’s no coming back from that.
What about men and women in their 40s, have been together for most of their adult life. But enjoy swinging, watching each other snd go home happy and reminiscing on the experience they just had?
@@jaredlesperance6874 i disagree. I think there are different stages or types of love that work well. Like a hobby, I think there are fetishes that couples share. My similar view is on the LGB bs. Its not love. Its fetish. Being a beta male bi cuck isn’t love. Its a fetish. I just think some can love each other but share a fetish. Regardless, being married. I have love yes. Thats what brought me to want to marry my husband, but I’d still love him even if i fell out of being smitten. Yet, i feel I’ve fallen in love with him about 12 times over our 8 years. And we have enjoyed sinful adventures. When he hurt his back, i was fine with no intimacy and wiping his butt for a few months didn’t make me loose attraction or feel cumbersome. Yet as a fetish. Sinful act. It is stimulating. I wont go into detail. But we could both agree on a modest lifestyle, and we both would. We would live in a box together. At least I would with him.
He doesn't even understand that a relationship takes TWO people that are COMMITTED to each other. If SHE breaks her half of the deal, then the WHOLE deal is off
Sadia speaks the truth. Women cheat at a real emotional level. I had a close to sexless marriage had opportunities to cheat and fill that void , but always had my family in my mind and never got close. Had I cheated it 100% would be a physical thing. My wife cheated and I entertained forgiving her for a minute. I’m glad I didn’t … her disrespect of me was off the charts. You can’t repair something especially with someone like that. My now ex-wife after cheating went to further lengths taking my home and my kids off me. She has tried to replace me with this new guy in my kids lives. I have spend the last two years fighting her in family court I have won but unfortunately she has damaged my daughters. On top of all this I pay for psychologists to help my girls. You don’t know evil until you deal with one of these women… sorry Matthew likes his soft approach to sell what he sells.
Serial cheater women cheat nonetheless if it's physical or emotional..dealt with one never gonna trust or marry or be with any woman ever again..totally screwed me on my take on woman
Exactly. I was working a job where i had plenty of opportunities and up front offers to cheat, but I created boundaries that they couldn’t crack. Even the slick ones that had to have my number for job related issues, and things get on well at work in conversation, just as friends, and the non work related text comes in and i tell them straight up not to text me unless I’m being called in. Those were all conscious decisions as are the decisions to cheat.
@@VonJay 100% boundaries are things men understand women will push them. I would never randomly text or go out for lunch another female especially while in a relationship even if they were ‘just friends’. My ex did not grasp that concept… at all.
@@toemas8 I’ve been telling a female cousin for years that men are hunters and that she has no male friends unless they’re gay. She’s in her late twenties now and her best friend from high school just confessed his love for her. Even then she thought it was a new thing or feeling to which I facepalmed and told her to stop gaslighting me. So no, having lunch with a male isn’t a friendly activity, it’s reconnaissance for the hunt. That time she spends eating lunch could be spent texting you, her girlfriends or praising Jesus. But it was spent with someone who could destroy everything she built.
Hello sir. I don’t know you or your daughters or your situation and I am many years from even becoming married and a father, but I do want to remind you one thing. I’ve spent many years in therapy and I’ve met dozens of psychologists. Even though that sounds like a lot of time, I still spent the majority of my time at home with my family. What I’m saying is, the psychologists can help and are a good outlet and resource for your daughters but you, their father, are going to be around them for the vast majority of their days. Know that they will not understand why their lives were so shaken up and they will not understand why you had to do what you had to do legally. It may take years for them to understand. But the most important thing is that you spend time with them, you play an active role in their lives, and you do your most important job: being a good dad. Be the man that they need in their life.
I hear both of them, but Sadia's points hold up. I'm with her on this. For women, they open themselves up to being dominated by another man or person. That's pretty wild when you think about it for a sec. It's a deep violation.
@beamerz9398 why is it a submissive act. Presumably, she's doing it because she wants to, even initiating. What's submissive about that? Also, I think you're thinking sex is just missionary. Women can be on top and control pretty much the whole show. What's submissive about that?
Great video, This past few months has been an eye opener for me, the one I love, the one i cherish still Left me, I lost alot of friends because of her, she often said they were bad influence on me, and she still left me, i still love her and that is what hurts the most. Love sometimes is unexplainable and cruel
Thank you for this, I know i wasnt alone on this i often sit and think what i will become without her because i have no one else, I think i might just give this a try,how did you get in touch with him/her, if you do not mind me asking.
Bingo. She gaslit him into believing that "the bigger man forgives cheating" and he fell for it hook, line, and sinker. And yet he still somehow considers himself and "expert" on women. 😆 This is what being blue pill and a white knight regarding female nature gets you.
Wrong, that's what real strength looks like. Do you know how easy it is to walk away it's easy doesn't require strength but it takes a real man to stay to handle the shame, a boy or weak man can't handle shame so he finds an easy way and that's out... Am not supporting the error but if you should know it takes strength to forgive and easy to walk away.
@@ReflexPlay3611 here we go again with the weak man narrative, no man with any self respect forgives a cheating woman period. As for your claim that it's easier to walk away than stay, it's clearly false. It actually takes more strength and courage to know that you still love someone but yet refuse to be disrespected by them.
@@ReflexPlay3611No, your reversal doesn't work. Strength lies in self-control. It can be "strong" to stay, just as it can be "strong" to leave. The harder choice varies by circumstance. That said, just because a choice requires a stronger person to make does not make it best in the short or long term, for you, a spouse, or any children in the equation.
@@Root4BeerFloats True and in this circumstance she still loves you regardless and you do too so it's hard to stay cause of your bruised ego it's easy to leave cause you don't have to put up with the shame so my point supports this argument more. If the circumstance was that for instance you love someone so much you feel it's a huge loss to let them go and they constantly show you that you're an option then leaving that relationship would be courageous and strength.
I think Matt’s girl cheated on him guys… But in all seriousness I don’t like how he tears down Sadie and villainises her statements, it’s quite repulsive and odious.
DO NOT forgive a cheating woman. I found out at 37 that my father is not my biological father (23 and me). My father suspected it but turned a blind eye and forgave her. Now he raised a son that wasn’t even his. She’s not even sorry. I have also been cheated on in my first marriage and I was pressured to forgive my ex… she eventually left when she found a suitable option to take care of her. Hypergamy at its finest.
Thank goodness Matt mostly helps women and not men. He is clearly being defensive vs listening to a females perspective on their own make up. Clearly a woman knows female nature best and if a woman as very seldomly happens, is actually wanting to protect men from their own blind spot, then one should listen. Matt is at best trying to pander to his female audience or at worst is actually anti male.
You switched the chicken and the egg. He has these opinions BECAUSE he works with women. It's not that he turned out like this and by coincidence it's exactly what they want to hear
The problem with most of you people reacting here are broken that's why you'all thinking he's not making sense. He doesn't disagree with that but he disagrees for the fact that not every woman , some women yes not all women in General this is his argument and I support him. If you're agreeing with this then what you're saying is all women are the same and if that's the case then what's the point of marriage, you're saying marriage is useless cause every time a woman cheats you have to ditch her, how many are you going to ditch cause forgiving her is useless cause they are all the same they will still cheat even after you forgive them so what's the point being with them when you know if they cheat that's it, don't you think if that's the case it's better to be alone? .. so to think that people can't be truly sorry for their wrongs and can't change says a lot about your emotional health. Healing is important, when we completely heal we leave room for error cause now we know that people aren't perfect and perfection is what harbors unforgiveness and resentment.
@@ReflexPlay3611 We're not saying "all women cheat". We're saying most women who find it in themselves to cheat once will do it twice (if given the chance). Find someone who doesn't have it in her but instead of abusing it - be just as faithful. If at some point it doesn't work out anymore - end it amicably. You can be loyal or honest and still have a host of imperfections.
In general, cheaters don’t love their partners. They don’t want their partner but wants what else the relationship comes with. Cheaters are trashy, man or woman.
For me it’s knowing that i don’t own my partner. That the rules of dating aren’t biologically or genetically hardwired. And that the mating hardwires can be triggered at any time. So you have to date people who are really intentional about creating and maintaining their integrity. Even attitudes like “nice guys” are extremely dishonest, even if unintentionally. So you have to be real with yourself and with who you’re dating at all times. Even then, someone might cheat. This French model girl i dated several years ago told me how safe I made her feel because i never tailored my answers to her, or acted in an ingratiating way. You wouldn’t think that I made her feel safe because of the disagreements we had, but we argued well and got our points across. But she said she would never find someone like me that she trusted so much. Even the little things like not pretending to not be annoyed by her when she got on my nerves. She’d make complaints, and then I stopped telling her the truth. And i could see the shift in our relationship, and compare, i could see that even though she complained her hardwires were still responding positively to me. But when I became dishonest in how i felt, she started to disconnect. If You cannot be honest with a woman, 100% honest, she’ll check out emotionally and mentally. Even when she complains about things that you self assess as truthful, reasonable and empathetic responses, keep doing it. If she truly doesn’t respect your honesty she wild leave you. And if she’s not seeking sex then you’re not telling the truth enough.
@@tiktokviral6218 I don't agree. All the guys I know that cheated were just heartless psychos that don't love anyone but themselves. I actually consider it a dealbreaker if one of my friends cheats on his girl. Why? Because if he'd stab her in the back why wouldn't he do the same to me? A man without loyalty is a poor excuse for a man to me and not worthy of being my friend.
Matt you are full of it. Leaving is not the easiest way. Have you ever been through the divorce grinder! It was the hardest thing I’ve ever been through. It was worth it in the end but you definitely have to walk through hell to get to the other side.
I was surprised when he said leaving was the easy way out 😂. really? leaving someone you genuinely love and care about is draining both physically, emotionally and emotionally coupled with the uncertainties of today’s dating scene. I would agree staying is a cowards approach especially when kids are not involved because you get to milk the guilt and in some cases control the cheater none of which is healthy.
Matthew is projecting a mans experience onto women. I trust Sadia, who is a woman, to have a more accurate read on how a women view infidelity since there is clearly a difference (that is not up for debate)
It's very much up for debate. However, I very much agree with your take. I value the words from a primary source. Sadia is cold and truthful, Matthew is massively emotional and generalist. I'd put my eggs in Sadia's basket.
He is completely wrong. Women never feel shame of cheating. They feel a shame when true is exposed. If this would never exposed they would feel nothing.
For those of you who are dissing on Matt, keep in mind he still has a business to run that caters to women. If he admitted to women that Sadia is right then he will lose his credibility so fast with his followers. It’s his job to co-sign. That said, Sadia is spot on!
And Sadias business caters to men so same situation. Sadia is essentially arguing men cheating is more acceptable than women cheating. She doesn't recognize how she has been brainwashed by her Muslim upbringing. She has some great points but she is also wrong on points as she is minimizing the pain and suffering women go through when being cheating on and trying to argue men's pain is worse.
@@jessiesheldon-huffey1824 well Mathew is trying to argue that it is more acceptable for women to cheat than it is for men. He must must be brainwashed too. Same situation then huh?
Confidence and being bad are not the same thing, neither is soft and good the same this conflation is killing relationships. There are good men that are confident and don’t tolerate disrespect, while there are many pathetic “bad boys”
@pleidastaurus5908 True , women like , confident, strong achievers in life , who will treat them right , not be a matress that lets them (and others) walk over himself.
I would rather see a heated debate about Women who simply force celibacy on their partners instead. Very little accountability is ever taken for this neglect. Talk about breaking trust
Like it doesn't exist the other way around? There are videos out there with quite a few reasons like the partner dumps everything on a woman, s**ual acts without consent, weaponised incompetence, infertility, health issues and the list goes on. It usually doesn't happen out of nowhere.
And how do accurately measure regret in real time? With words? Same words that led you to believe that she was faithful this whole time?? Yeah okay bozo 😂😂
What the hell? I don't think I ever got so much respect so fast for somebody from a clip. Why does she sum up my thoughts better than I ever managed to do? It's scary 😅
i forgive and i always get abandoned. i dont think i will change, but i dont expect change either. sadia is right that i value the relationships over myself. ive tried change but at this point i doubt that will ever change. i feel some of us men were always meant to be discarded and alone. none of what i said would ever turn on a woman that im so forgiving, rather it would do the opposite. its just part of evolution to weed us out of the pool. the way i look at it is that i hope life just isnt too long
What a weak and pathetic attitude. It sounds to me that you have given up on yourself, I don’t know how old you are but I can promise you regardless of your age it’s up to you if you want to change and turn things around. Find out how to be stronger physically, emotionally and mentally. There are many ways to get better and stronger and most important of all: learn to love and respect yourself!
Nah, bruh, you can change. You have to want to change. It's not necessarily about forgiveness. Your change can be in your selection. Don't give up on yourself. Understand that feeling bad is natural. What's not natural is not walking away from what hurts you. Don't give up, bruh! You can do it 💪!!!
You haven't described strength or maturity. You've described apathy and coping. You're unable to defend yourself because you are too weak of character. Their ideas, desires, and life is more important to you than your own.
When I first met my wife, 17 years ago, I was introduced to her aunt, let’s say “Arlene”. I was introduced to Arlene’s’ husband “Greg” and 2 older sons and “her” 4-year-old son, “Alex”. I find out 14 years later, that “Alex” is her son, but not “Greg’s”. She had left Greg 4 YEARS prior to move in with a man (Mr Crapforbrains) who was currently married to someone else, and previously divorced 4 TIMES - all because of infidelity by him. It gets better - she becomes pregnant with “Alex”. When the Mr Crapforbrains finds out Arlene is pregnant, he of coarse leaves her to go onto yet another woman is who isn’t his wife. Arlene raised the son of Mr Crapforbrains under the lie that he was the son of Greg and Arlene. My wife thinks it shouldn't bother me, but it does.
Cheating is a form of lying. It's a significant form of lying. If/once that happens in a relationship, end that relationship and move on. Doesn't matter if it's men or women. Move. On. Once a liar always a liar.
Generally women will cheat not out sexual desire…..she goes out when she has already given up on the relationship So there is no point forgiving her, and rarely they seek apology
@@limitlesky Not exactly But I was in a very emotionally draining, surface level relationship with rigid patterns of stereotyped behaviours which I was not even consciously aware of Cos there were no real conversations and Until I met my twin flame I am still in my old relationship but everything has changed
@@poojasharma-xc9un If you are still in a relationship with that person and are calling someone else "twin flame", that's called cheating... If you are so unhappy, why don't you grow a spine and break up with the person you are currently in a relationship with and pursue your twin flame? Did you tell the person you are with that you met your twin flame? They have the right to know. Cheating and then using "magical thinking" to rationalize the cheating because you don't like to think of yourself as a cheater. Gross.
You show a person how you want to be treated so if you allow it once it will definitely leave room for repetition, definitely with Sadia with this one.
You can and even just forgive to persons who cheated on you, as resentfulness and bitterness can and will bring you down. However never, ever you can forget how you felt because of that person. These are 2 different things.
The guy condoning the cheating wives is ridiculous. A wise man once told me that once a woman cheats and the man takes her back, something inside of him has died and he will never be the same. She will never look at him the same either.
I disagree on 8:26 you can forgive people but it doesn't mean you have to stay or that you are obligated to stay because you've forgiven them. It's not about pride or ego, you leave because of your own wellness, your mental and emotional health and to protect the sanity you still have left.
It's not only against intuition. It's against nature. Simple as that. Men will cheat on women due to physical aspect (hotter girl, lack of sex in relationship etc. but he will not lose respect for his partner/wife).Women will cheat due to emotional reason. She stopped respecting her husband/partner as main provider and career. She will give her body to someone who is better (according to her). Check what men or women are being afraid of whenentioning about cheating? Women as men if he loves the other women. Men ask women if she finds other guy more sexy (better body) or bigger wealth. This is simple projection. Women know emotional connection is nail to the coffin (as their reason for cheating is emotional) and can forgive men if it's not emotional cheating. If you will take cheating women back she will lose all the respect to you. Doesn't matter what she will say. Don't believe in what women say but in what they will do. And I will repeat myself here, but you should forgive your woman for cheating, as bitterness and rage or desire of revabge will consume you. However you should never forget how you felt because of her.
@@JJ-vp3bd feeling disrespected is usually a signal of somebody disrespecting u. Especially when in reaction to a disrespectful act like cheating. Ignoring that signal lets somebody disrespect u. Idk what are you confused about
that’s mainly because it’s not the natural response and can only be rationalized by someone who has chosen to forgive a cheating partner. that wound rarely ever heals on both sides
You can have your self-respect or you can take a cheater back. You can't have both. I prefer my self-respect. I dumped a cheating gf 40 years ago and NEVER missed her a day.
The main reason is because the power dynamic shifts. When a man cheats, the woman is scared he will do it again, and values the relationship more than the disrespect. She is the adorer in this case and the man is the adored. She is chasing him. When a woman cheats, it is the opposite, and that does not work. When a man is scared of his girl cheating again, displays insecure behavior etc. She is going to see him as beneath her in an interpersonal sense. The power dynamic where a woman is above her man means she will not be turned on by her man, not attracted to her man, and be more willing to disrespect that man, not least because she isn’t afraid of losing the relationship any longer.
When my ex cheated on me she felt no guilt but only regret she got caught. She even said to me she thought it would just run it’s course without me ever knowing. While she was having her fun while giving me a sexless marriage I was working my ass off to provide a home for our family. I do believe she had a lack of respect for me as well of some sense of entitlement to have whatever she wanted on a whim. Perhaps I should have gone outside the marriage to get my needs met? Instead I had a sense of duty and responsibility to my family so my needs came last. I’ve always said it amazes me what grown adults will do to F up their lives.
@@JJ-vp3bd after almost blowing my brains out I realized she wasn’t worth it and my kids needed their father. Actually pretty pathetic but luckily I snapped out of it. Life is good now.
Ofc she disrespectrd you, lol. Wtf?!?! How is that even a question, she didnt give you sex, thats disrespect in itself. You should have kicked her out then and certainly stop providing for the family.
I feel like they’re talking about two types of infidelity. Matt is talking about the “accidental” one timers that may border on SA. Someone gets drunk and someone else insists too hard or doesn’t resist hard enough. The next day no one is sure how it happened, only that it did. Shame and regret. Sadia is talking about the “affairs” where there is the repeated choice to deceive, over and over. Any sort of “shame” only comes about from the embarrassment of being exposed or ultimately rejected.
What she is saying is so true and at the same time incredibly sad for us males who are slow to awaken . I have finally woken up to this truth and it’s incredible painful to know how delusional I have been.
This whole conversation boiled down to the fact that men and women love differently. Women mostly love what her man represents to her as a man. His character, status, his physical standing. She will continually compare him to other men to validate these things. Men love more individually. Men usually see the things they are attracted to about her to set her apart from other women. She's the special one to him.
The thing is, men value respect above love. Why? Because love is selfish, respect puts others before yourself. If you choose your own feelings over the emotions of another, you can love them all you want, but that means that love, or the direction you're focusing it towards, is only temporary. If you respect someone, you always value their emotions, their desires, and their trust more than your own fleeting satisfactions. If you break trust, if you discard respect, the love has no meaning. Its no different than defining your emotions based on the direction of the wind.
Respect and loyalty, I would say. Love is nothing, women say a lot of things but its pretty simply. If she loves you, she wants to have sex with you. If she loves you she would not cheat ever. Love is just a word, it means nothing. Its a feeling and feelings change. To prevent a relationship from falling apart their need to be boundaries, based in logic.
She explaind it perfectly when she said, that the cheating shows that the relationship doesn't mean the same thing to both partners. When you love your partner so that you would never cheat on them, but they cheat on you, then it PROVES that they don't love you the way you love them and never did most likely.
8:54 Forgiveness and restitution are two different things. This guy is conflating forgiveness with the idea that you should accept anyone's behavior. That is not the case. A man still have to rest on his laurels.
Ppl are missing the point. Cheating is wrong for both sides,however, the kicker is, how are they wrong, and in what sense? Sadiq is right, both genders' wrongs are different. Whether u wanna forgive or not that should be taken into consideration. I've known guys who have regular "fun" trips but stays "loyal" in their relationship, meaning still care and love their spouse and kids (if they have) the same. Treats them the same as if nothing happened. Can't say the same for the other way around though. I thk probably due to females are usually more emotionally involved.
Exactly this, men and women are not the same. We can "cheat" and still love our wifes. Women can only be loyal to one man at a time. So if she aint sleepong with you in a marriage, she is sleeping with somebody else.
Cheating is simply a Dealbreaker. It’s made clear upfront. It is a standard in which I hold myself and whomever I decide to get into a relationship with. Take it or leave it.
Nope, you're 100% thinking clearly on the matter so props to you on your wokeness. lol He's still blue pilled so that's why he sounds so cringey... because he is. 😄
i think she is right, especially with the masculinity part. Media tries to portrai a new way of masculinity which, in my eyes, is actually weak with no backbone and women like the idea of that but dont respond well to it though. sure forgiveness goes a long way but as soon as you, as a man, disrespect yourself in front of a woman your not masculine anymore. might as well change your gender (pun intended)
It’s not brave…it’s foolish to forgive and try to continue a marriage. If someone cheats they have lost respect for you….they don’t see you as valuable and an equal. They see you as beneath them and not worthy. If they reconcile there is no trust and cannot be ever. Even years down the line there will always be some degree of angst when the cheater doesn’t answer the phone, goes on a trip….or isn’t in a normal mood. There will be questions in the back of their mind….
Remember men you can’t give someone something they can’t give themselves respect, loyalty, love, it’s our job to vet these women see take them on dates with and without money, there true colors for you come out quickly, and it’s your job to inform them about some boundaries others you don’t speak of and when they cross those just politely let them know you are no longer interested
Cheating is always wrong regardless if it's a man or woman, with compartmentalization or not. If you cheated, then I get even, will you forgive me? There you go.
Lol well he's definitely blue pilled on female nature so in a sense you're not wrong. 😄 And he's also a so called dating coach for women so isn't that interesting.
Matt completely dismissed that one crucial element every human must have: ACCOUNTABILITY. Around the 7:23 mark when he speaks about honour, if there is any feeling of being honourable left, the woman needs to make a peaceful split happen and help make the transition to both their new lives without each other as smooth as possible. That's the honourable thing to do. What Matt suggested is endorsing selfish behaviour. Also, forgiving a cheater is just going to fester resentment inside the heart of the person cheated on which is unhealthy. You cannot just invalidate and wish away the feeling of resentment. Matt needs to be less idealistic and be more realistic about how the human mind works. This is what Sadia who is a psychologist understand and Matt who is not, don't understand. So obviously this makes the couple staying together to be a bad idea. If the cheater truly "love" her partner which is already hard to believe at this point, she would work together with him to find a way for them both to move on peacefully without each other. I would only slightly disagree with Sadia, I believe it is equally as bad for men to cheat although she did say there's not much hope of coming back if the men cheats. Men should 100% be equally as accountable for their actions just like women are expected to. And as for Matt, he is good when it comes to courtship advice. Relationship maintenance is a whole different ball game than courtship.
I 100 percent agree with you. forgiving and forgetting are two different things. as humans we never forget anything that caused us trauma and pain it’s that simple. we try to deal with it and move on but it’s impossible when we continue to see the source of that trauma or pain.
Is it ever brave to forgive a cheating partner, or is it just a sign of weakness?
It's a sign of weakness
That guy is weak
Absolute weakness. Never forgive, you'll just invite more cheating.
@@outforbeer, I don't agree with him, but I don't think he is weak either.
@@BreakupBounce context is everything. A one time, drunken “mistake” versus deliberate, planned encounters are vastly different in scope.
Here we have a woman who is telling you exactly how her mind works and a man who refuses to believe it because it makes him sad.
Pretty sure he was heartbroken when he got to know that Santa isn't real.
Or when Taylor swift dumped him
Sounds like a fool who will never learn.
He looks like he has forgiven a woman, likely still with her, and is realizing his current or past loves fell out of love with him
This guy makes all of his money off of women there is no way he is going to go against that narrative
Sadia is right. If a woman cheats, she belongs to the streets. It wasn't a mistake, it was a decision. She doesn't respect you and any trust you had with her is gone. Leave and heal, then live a good life.
All cheaters belongs in the trash.
Thise who stay never get over it and adapt to living a miserable life. I always read their stories on reddit. Not a single happy man amongst those who decided to stay with a cheating woman.
Same for men. Stop this trash that men cheat differently. It is all a matter of character and principles.
If she doesn't respect you, she can't love you.
She'll start by treating you like chit, and start shopping for a new man.
If she has single friends that talk up the single life, She'll head for the streets .
Cheat back and kick her out
Gentlemen dont listen to that guy...The lady is telling the truth..
What is the guy's name? this guy must have mostly women as customers. crazy that you would let that slide.
Because he is a Simp himself
@@mikef2811yep, he is a “relationship” coach for women. Panderer
Mathew's true colours coming out. He was always going to say this cus his entire business model is telling women what they want to hear
@joshb7326 IT seems like we are both thinking the same thik
Exactly
You prolonged the fight you get more views and bets. Clearly He does his job because it pays.
@@robertnoble6661 Yes he has a very successful channel, he saw a market opportunity and hard work, but he will have you beleive he's trying to help people find love, which I don't beleive
Yep. Business is good, don't mess it up😂
Sadia says what is true. Matthew says what he wishes were true.
Mathew panders to women, who are his audience. 😂
Because he puts male and female cheaters on the same scale, I'd say he's close minded.
I think Matthew is in a relationship where he has been cheated on 😂😂😂
@@gaddaitherage8204 He is like steve harvey...he knows whats up but he plays the game cause he found a niche where women willingly pay him to get lied to.......i respect the hustle...
They say men are more logical and seems to be that the women is the logical one in this clip
The irony that she is arguing with logic and he is arguing with emotion. Props to her 😂😂😂
Arguing with logic is arguing with facts. We dont have the statistics on this. Also logic is to understand that both of them are obviously correct to some degree since nothing is definative, but at most a generality
His audience is mostly women if you've ever seen his presentations. He is deliberately putting up this show to enable and excuse delusional women. A wolf in sheep's clothing, he is. She is trying to earn credibility with the male audience on RUclips and is simply parroting what other Male Manosphere Influencers have already established and shared.
The dude is a liar
We all know he's a simp
@@snubbenper9187her facts are from clients and stories she’s heard, if you can’t believe it tho that’s on you
She is right.
No
Yeah she is right. AMC you are a cheater belong to the street
@@pravinrajar8410 or a bot?
That can also be. Didn’t thought of it
@@pravinrajar8410it's her opinion cuz she is Muslim do3snt mean she right
A love relationship is like a mirror. Once it's broken, it's impossible to put the pieces back together again from the way it used to be.
Well said!
Anyone think this man’s wife has cheated on him and he forgave her. He’s still hurting but need to lie to himself
100%
He definitely been cheated on now or past whether he knows it or not.
yes, in the full interview he talks about it.
@@jmrios942So he's a simp.
That AND his clientelle is female
Matt is very misguided. It isn’t brave to stay with someone who has disrespected you!
He has been cheated on.
Matt makes a living out of telling women what they wanna hear.... its not surprising at all. Most of these dating gurus cater to the female ear.
Either way, trust is irreparably broken. That’s super hard to overcome. Personally, I’d be done.
Trust is so hard to repair after cheating once is broken
Exactly. Forgivness is not the same as trust. You might forgive a child molester - but if you ever trust them again, you're a fool. Naturally a cheater isn't at the same level as a child molester, and forgiving her only helps YOU - but trust her to never again give someone else the part of her that she should only give you is just stupid.
I'd say it's impossible.
She’s right and he is a fool. This man obviously doesn’t know female nature. Once a woman loses respect for you the relationship is over, there is no going back. Move on!
@@73split He's as wusspuss. He doesn't even understand male psychology.
I believe you should forgive the woman AND end the relationship. In order to move on, you must release those negative emotions like bitterness, anger and resentment. She is telling us how most women see men before and after they cheat. Fellas should probably listen.
I 💯% agree with you on that.
Malum Caedo : Forget nothing. Forgive no one.
Precisely, forgiving an offense is not the same as pardoning the offense. I can forgive someone for disrespecting me, but that doesn't mean that I will pardon such disrespect.
If a woman Cheat she doesn t respect you
If she doesn t respect you she does notlove you
He got COOKED in this debate!!! His delusional take on forgiveness will lead many men to accept gaslighting and false promises. Cheating men think with their little head but cheating women think with their hearts and leave the relationship emotionally before the man ever had a clue.
He got cucked in real life.
She is 100% spot on. I wish I heard this back when I was dealing with a partner who was having an affair. I sadly and mistakenly did nothing but extend the inevitable by trying to make it work. The girl I was with had already checked out. We had two different views on the relationship. The disrespect, the lies, the manipulations, the deceit, etc.. is absolutely disgusting. There’s no coming back from that.
If cheating happens, you are blocked, deleted in all areas, and gone from my life like you never existed.
Who are you?
What about men and women in their 40s, have been together for most of their adult life. But enjoy swinging, watching each other snd go home happy and reminiscing on the experience they just had?
@@sukaenacornelius9285Then they don’t truly love each other because you would never want to share what should be yours and your only.
@@jaredlesperance6874 i disagree. I think there are different stages or types of love that work well. Like a hobby, I think there are fetishes that couples share. My similar view is on the LGB bs. Its not love. Its fetish. Being a beta male bi cuck isn’t love. Its a fetish. I just think some can love each other but share a fetish. Regardless, being married. I have love yes. Thats what brought me to want to marry my husband, but I’d still love him even if i fell out of being smitten. Yet, i feel I’ve fallen in love with him about 12 times over our 8 years. And we have enjoyed sinful adventures. When he hurt his back, i was fine with no intimacy and wiping his butt for a few months didn’t make me loose attraction or feel cumbersome. Yet as a fetish. Sinful act. It is stimulating. I wont go into detail. But we could both agree on a modest lifestyle, and we both would. We would live in a box together. At least I would with him.
Matthew can't tell the truth. His business is based on telling women what they want to hear. It would hurt his bottom line.
BINGO. Disgusting imo
Exactly.
I think it's deeper than that - his wife cheated on him and he took her back. So he's invested in this on a whole another level.
8:23 - “this relationship means more to me than my pride and my ego”
That’s the problem. NO WOMAN respects a man that will compromise himself 🤦🏾♂️
The framing is also incorrect. How about I don't be around a person who hates me?
He doesn't even understand that a relationship takes TWO people that are COMMITTED to each other. If SHE breaks her half of the deal, then the WHOLE deal is off
Sadia speaks the truth.
Women cheat at a real emotional level. I had a close to sexless marriage had opportunities to cheat and fill that void , but always had my family in my mind and never got close. Had I cheated it 100% would be a physical thing.
My wife cheated and I entertained forgiving her for a minute. I’m glad I didn’t … her disrespect of me was off the charts. You can’t repair something especially with someone like that.
My now ex-wife after cheating went to further lengths taking my home and my kids off me. She has tried to replace me with this new guy in my kids lives. I have spend the last two years fighting her in family court I have won but unfortunately she has damaged my daughters. On top of all this I pay for psychologists to help my girls.
You don’t know evil until you deal with one of these women… sorry Matthew likes his soft approach to sell what he sells.
Serial cheater women cheat nonetheless if it's physical or emotional..dealt with one never gonna trust or marry or be with any woman ever again..totally screwed me on my take on woman
Exactly. I was working a job where i had plenty of opportunities and up front offers to cheat, but I created boundaries that they couldn’t crack. Even the slick ones that had to have my number for job related issues, and things get on well at work in conversation, just as friends, and the non work related text comes in and i tell them straight up not to text me unless I’m being called in. Those were all conscious decisions as are the decisions to cheat.
@@VonJay 100% boundaries are things men understand women will push them. I would never randomly text or go out for lunch another female especially while in a relationship even if they were ‘just friends’. My ex did not grasp that concept… at all.
@@toemas8 I’ve been telling a female cousin for years that men are hunters and that she has no male friends unless they’re gay. She’s in her late twenties now and her best friend from high school just confessed his love for her. Even then she thought it was a new thing or feeling to which I facepalmed and told her to stop gaslighting me. So no, having lunch with a male isn’t a friendly activity, it’s reconnaissance for the hunt. That time she spends eating lunch could be spent texting you, her girlfriends or praising Jesus. But it was spent with someone who could destroy everything she built.
Hello sir. I don’t know you or your daughters or your situation and I am many years from even becoming married and a father, but I do want to remind you one thing. I’ve spent many years in therapy and I’ve met dozens of psychologists. Even though that sounds like a lot of time, I still spent the majority of my time at home with my family. What I’m saying is, the psychologists can help and are a good outlet and resource for your daughters but you, their father, are going to be around them for the vast majority of their days. Know that they will not understand why their lives were so shaken up and they will not understand why you had to do what you had to do legally. It may take years for them to understand. But the most important thing is that you spend time with them, you play an active role in their lives, and you do your most important job: being a good dad. Be the man that they need in their life.
Damn, this woman is speaking so much sense goodness me…she must be protected at all costs
I hear both of them, but Sadia's points hold up. I'm with her on this.
For women, they open themselves up to being dominated by another man or person. That's pretty wild when you think about it for a sec. It's a deep violation.
Why is sex about domination?
@@catherineball7584 It's a submissive act for the woman, her most vulnerable state
@beamerz9398 why is it a submissive act. Presumably, she's doing it because she wants to, even initiating. What's submissive about that? Also, I think you're thinking sex is just missionary. Women can be on top and control pretty much the whole show. What's submissive about that?
@@catherineball7584that's just roleplaying. A woman's natural state is of submission
@@chumbucket6184 there's no prescribed position for sex. All positions are equal.
I believe in her point of view..
Great video, This past few months has been an eye opener for me, the one I love, the one i cherish still Left me, I lost alot of friends because of her, she often said they were bad influence on me, and she still left me, i still love her and that is what hurts the most. Love sometimes is unexplainable and cruel
Thank you for this, I know i wasnt alone on this i often sit and think what i will become without her because i have no one else, I think i might just give this a try,how did you get in touch with him/her, if you do not mind me asking.
Thank you for this valuable information, i just looked her up now online. impressive
it is easier said than done but for your own sake move on.
Past life victims take revenge in love disguise
Now you kno women are selfish and are taught to be lije this no respect
Sadia is right. I am not particularly a fan of her, but she’s right.
Matt is letting his history of forgiving his girl blind him. He doesn’t want to accept the reality that he is a weak man for doing that😂😂.
Bingo. She gaslit him into believing that "the bigger man forgives cheating" and he fell for it hook, line, and sinker.
And yet he still somehow considers himself and "expert" on women. 😆 This is what being blue pill and a white knight regarding female nature gets you.
Wrong, that's what real strength looks like. Do you know how easy it is to walk away it's easy doesn't require strength but it takes a real man to stay to handle the shame, a boy or weak man can't handle shame so he finds an easy way and that's out... Am not supporting the error but if you should know it takes strength to forgive and easy to walk away.
@@ReflexPlay3611 here we go again with the weak man narrative, no man with any self respect forgives a cheating woman period.
As for your claim that it's easier to walk away than stay, it's clearly false. It actually takes more strength and courage to know that you still love someone but yet refuse to be disrespected by them.
@@ReflexPlay3611No, your reversal doesn't work. Strength lies in self-control. It can be "strong" to stay, just as it can be "strong" to leave. The harder choice varies by circumstance.
That said, just because a choice requires a stronger person to make does not make it best in the short or long term, for you, a spouse, or any children in the equation.
@@Root4BeerFloats True and in this circumstance she still loves you regardless and you do too so it's hard to stay cause of your bruised ego it's easy to leave cause you don't have to put up with the shame so my point supports this argument more.
If the circumstance was that for instance you love someone so much you feel it's a huge loss to let them go and they constantly show you that you're an option then leaving that relationship would be courageous and strength.
Im agree with Sadia in 100%. She is totally right.
I think Matt’s girl cheated on him guys…
But in all seriousness I don’t like how he tears down Sadie and villainises her statements, it’s quite repulsive and odious.
yes, in the full interview he talks about it.
@@jmrios942 that explains his lack of masculine energy.
his invisible trilby won`t get him laid.
Let me guess, you’re all women?
DO NOT forgive a cheating woman. I found out at 37 that my father is not my biological father (23 and me). My father suspected it but turned a blind eye and forgave her. Now he raised a son that wasn’t even his. She’s not even sorry.
I have also been cheated on in my first marriage and I was pressured to forgive my ex… she eventually left when she found a suitable option to take care of her. Hypergamy at its finest.
Insane keep going dude God bless you
Dayum brother! You've learned your lessons the hard way. Keep it up man! Good luck!
Thank goodness Matt mostly helps women and not men. He is clearly being defensive vs listening to a females perspective on their own make up. Clearly a woman knows female nature best and if a woman as very seldomly happens, is actually wanting to protect men from their own blind spot, then one should listen. Matt is at best trying to pander to his female audience or at worst is actually anti male.
You switched the chicken and the egg. He has these opinions BECAUSE he works with women. It's not that he turned out like this and by coincidence it's exactly what they want to hear
The problem with most of you people reacting here are broken that's why you'all thinking he's not making sense. He doesn't disagree with that but he disagrees for the fact that not every woman , some women yes not all women in General this is his argument and I support him. If you're agreeing with this then what you're saying is all women are the same and if that's the case then what's the point of marriage, you're saying marriage is useless cause every time a woman cheats you have to ditch her, how many are you going to ditch cause forgiving her is useless cause they are all the same they will still cheat even after you forgive them so what's the point being with them when you know if they cheat that's it, don't you think if that's the case it's better to be alone? .. so to think that people can't be truly sorry for their wrongs and can't change says a lot about your emotional health. Healing is important, when we completely heal we leave room for error cause now we know that people aren't perfect and perfection is what harbors unforgiveness and resentment.
@@ReflexPlay3611 We're not saying "all women cheat". We're saying most women who find it in themselves to cheat once will do it twice (if given the chance). Find someone who doesn't have it in her but instead of abusing it - be just as faithful. If at some point it doesn't work out anymore - end it amicably. You can be loyal or honest and still have a host of imperfections.
He been cheated on.
@@ReflexPlay3611 What does it matter if SOME can be redeemed?? Why tf do I want to stick around and find out?? The odds ARE NOT in my favor.
i agree with sadia 100%
In general, cheaters don’t love their partners. They don’t want their partner but wants what else the relationship comes with. Cheaters are trashy, man or woman.
That’s true for woman not for man mostly. Different mindsets.
For me it’s knowing that i don’t own my partner. That the rules of dating aren’t biologically or genetically hardwired. And that the mating hardwires can be triggered at any time. So you have to date people who are really intentional about creating and maintaining their integrity. Even attitudes like “nice guys” are extremely dishonest, even if unintentionally. So you have to be real with yourself and with who you’re dating at all times. Even then, someone might cheat. This French model girl i dated several years ago told me how safe I made her feel because i never tailored my answers to her, or acted in an ingratiating way. You wouldn’t think that I made her feel safe because of the disagreements we had, but we argued well and got our points across. But she said she would never find someone like me that she trusted so much. Even the little things like not pretending to not be annoyed by her when she got on my nerves. She’d make complaints, and then I stopped telling her the truth. And i could see the shift in our relationship, and compare, i could see that even though she complained her hardwires were still responding positively to me. But when I became dishonest in how i felt, she started to disconnect. If You cannot be honest with a woman, 100% honest, she’ll check out emotionally and mentally. Even when she complains about things that you self assess as truthful, reasonable and empathetic responses, keep doing it. If she truly doesn’t respect your honesty she wild leave you. And if she’s not seeking sex then you’re not telling the truth enough.
@@tiktokviral6218 I don't agree. All the guys I know that cheated were just heartless psychos that don't love anyone but themselves. I actually consider it a dealbreaker if one of my friends cheats on his girl. Why? Because if he'd stab her in the back why wouldn't he do the same to me? A man without loyalty is a poor excuse for a man to me and not worthy of being my friend.
@@BrandonHeat243 you are actually right come to think of it.
Matt you are full of it. Leaving is not the easiest way. Have you ever been through the divorce grinder! It was the hardest thing I’ve ever been through. It was worth it in the end but you definitely have to walk through hell to get to the other side.
I was surprised when he said leaving was the easy way out 😂. really? leaving someone you genuinely love and care about is draining both physically, emotionally and emotionally coupled with the uncertainties of today’s dating scene. I would agree staying is a cowards approach especially when kids are not involved because you get to milk the guilt and in some cases control the cheater none of which is healthy.
Matthew is projecting a mans experience onto women. I trust Sadia, who is a woman, to have a more accurate read on how a women view infidelity since there is clearly a difference (that is not up for debate)
It's very much up for debate. However, I very much agree with your take. I value the words from a primary source. Sadia is cold and truthful, Matthew is massively emotional and generalist. I'd put my eggs in Sadia's basket.
He is completely wrong. Women never feel shame of cheating. They feel a shame when true is exposed. If this would never exposed they would feel nothing.
For those of you who are dissing on Matt, keep in mind he still has a business to run that caters to women. If he admitted to women that Sadia is right then he will lose his credibility so fast with his followers. It’s his job to co-sign. That said, Sadia is spot on!
Exaaactly
And Sadias business caters to men so same situation. Sadia is essentially arguing men cheating is more acceptable than women cheating. She doesn't recognize how she has been brainwashed by her Muslim upbringing. She has some great points but she is also wrong on points as she is minimizing the pain and suffering women go through when being cheating on and trying to argue men's pain is worse.
@@jessiesheldon-huffey1824 well Mathew is trying to argue that it is more acceptable for women to cheat than it is for men. He must must be brainwashed too. Same situation then huh?
@@jessiesheldon-huffey1824what does her Muslim upbringing got to do with cheating , in Islam you can't cheat man or women
@@jessiesheldon-huffey1824 women don’t have a internal scrub brush
Most logical woman I've seen in a while. She is appealing to men.
Dude is appealing to women.....
Don't get played men
This guy will never understand why women are naturally attracted to more confident bad boys over soft good guys.
Confidence and being bad are not the same thing, neither is soft and good the same this conflation is killing relationships. There are good men that are confident and don’t tolerate disrespect, while there are many pathetic “bad boys”
@@pleidastaurus5908 You make a good point but miss the one I'm making
@pleidastaurus5908 True , women like , confident, strong achievers in life , who will treat them right , not be a matress that lets them (and others) walk over himself.
I would rather see a heated debate about Women who simply force celibacy on their partners instead. Very little accountability is ever taken for this neglect. Talk about breaking trust
Male and female being forcibly?celibate as the discussion piece
Like it doesn't exist the other way around? There are videos out there with quite a few reasons like the partner dumps everything on a woman, s**ual acts without consent, weaponised incompetence, infertility, health issues and the list goes on. It usually doesn't happen out of nowhere.
@@kuraikoitoedoesnt matter
@@SWOTHDRA why?
If someone is really really regretting their actions then maybe forgiveness is the way to go
Else Sadia is right in every way
Most cheaters really really regret their actions because they got caught.
@@HenriZwols😂
I read a study which suggested that having high amounts of regret did not lead to changed behavior
And how do accurately measure regret in real time? With words? Same words that led you to believe that she was faithful this whole time?? Yeah okay bozo 😂😂
@ Then I would say that you need to connect with people energetically
I lost all respect for Matt during this debate
Well matt does not understand very very well women....he think he knows thinks but he doesn't
@@king489 he thinks like a woman but acts like a man 😂
@@king489He's a blue pill white knight, what else do you expect? But I agree with you both. He's still too naive and soft hearted regarding women.
Me too.
Yeah he is a cuck
Finally a very true unbiased discussion. This is a good channel.
This is the first time i see a man argue with emotions while the woman is using logic 😂
What the hell? I don't think I ever got so much respect so fast for somebody from a clip. Why does she sum up my thoughts better than I ever managed to do? It's scary 😅
i forgive and i always get abandoned. i dont think i will change, but i dont expect change either. sadia is right that i value the relationships over myself. ive tried change but at this point i doubt that will ever change. i feel some of us men were always meant to be discarded and alone. none of what i said would ever turn on a woman that im so forgiving, rather it would do the opposite. its just part of evolution to weed us out of the pool. the way i look at it is that i hope life just isnt too long
What a weak and pathetic attitude.
It sounds to me that you have given up on yourself, I don’t know how old you are but I can promise you regardless of your age it’s up to you if you want to change and turn things around. Find out how to be stronger physically, emotionally and mentally. There are many ways to get better and stronger and most important of all: learn to love and respect yourself!
Nah, bruh, you can change. You have to want to change. It's not necessarily about forgiveness. Your change can be in your selection. Don't give up on yourself. Understand that feeling bad is natural. What's not natural is not walking away from what hurts you. Don't give up, bruh! You can do it 💪!!!
If you don't respect yourself, nobody else will.
I feel you bro
You haven't described strength or maturity. You've described apathy and coping. You're unable to defend yourself because you are too weak of character. Their ideas, desires, and life is more important to you than your own.
When I first met my wife, 17 years ago, I was introduced to her aunt, let’s say “Arlene”. I was introduced to Arlene’s’ husband “Greg” and 2 older sons and “her” 4-year-old son, “Alex”.
I find out 14 years later, that “Alex” is her son, but not “Greg’s”. She had left Greg 4 YEARS prior to move in with a man (Mr Crapforbrains) who was currently married to someone else, and previously divorced 4 TIMES - all because of infidelity by him. It gets better - she becomes pregnant with “Alex”. When the Mr Crapforbrains finds out Arlene is pregnant, he of coarse leaves her to go onto yet another woman is who isn’t his wife.
Arlene raised the son of Mr Crapforbrains under the lie that he was the son of Greg and Arlene. My wife thinks it shouldn't bother me, but it does.
Does Greg knows now? or he still lives thinking its his biological son?
A red flag for the wife
You're still with your wife?
@@AIartificalIntelligeMy question as well. smh
If your wife finds that behavior acceptable, I've got some bad news for you lil bro
😬
I think this guy has been cheated on 😮
And forgave lol. Lots of guys get cheated on, but simply move on.
Cheating is a form of lying. It's a significant form of lying. If/once that happens in a relationship, end that relationship and move on. Doesn't matter if it's men or women. Move. On. Once a liar always a liar.
Matt is just coming up with the weakest arguments
She won. Mathew puts too much weight on female accountability which is literally their kryptonite
Generally women will cheat not out sexual desire…..she goes out when she has already given up on the relationship
So there is no point forgiving her, and rarely they seek apology
Yep - most of the time, men cheat to stay in their marriage, Women cheat to leave it
Most women don't forgive either. Mostly women initiate divorce and infidelity is the second most common reason.
Have you cheated?
@@limitlesky Not exactly
But I was in a very emotionally draining, surface level relationship with rigid patterns of stereotyped behaviours which I was not even consciously aware of
Cos there were no real conversations and
Until I met my twin flame
I am still in my old relationship but everything has changed
@@poojasharma-xc9un If you are still in a relationship with that person and are calling someone else "twin flame", that's called cheating... If you are so unhappy, why don't you grow a spine and break up with the person you are currently in a relationship with and pursue your twin flame? Did you tell the person you are with that you met your twin flame? They have the right to know. Cheating and then using "magical thinking" to rationalize the cheating because you don't like to think of yourself as a cheater. Gross.
Cheaters are for the streets!
Real men do not show forgiveness for cheaters, but heal and walks towards the future!
Yea Sadia is correct. Matt is wrong!!!!
The amount of stories I've heard of wives cheating on husbands is HARROWING.
You show a person how you want to be treated so if you allow it once it will definitely leave room for repetition, definitely with Sadia with this one.
Forgiving, and especially taking another man`s child, is asking for more.
Fark cheaters. Never ever take them back. Don't care if kids involved. Answer is always leave.
I'm sorry, Sadia hit the nail on the head on all of this. Matthew would lead me to depression.
Sadia is goated. 🐐
It’s funny how this man is trying to tell a female shes wrong about how women feel about cheating.
You can and even just forgive to persons who cheated on you, as resentfulness and bitterness can and will bring you down. However never, ever you can forget how you felt because of that person. These are 2 different things.
The guy condoning the cheating wives is ridiculous. A wise man once told me that once a woman cheats and the man takes her back, something inside of him has died and he will never be the same. She will never look at him the same either.
Take no cheater back. Whether it be a man or a woman. Once respect is lost, it’s lost forever and the emotional abuse will continue.
I disagree on 8:26 you can forgive people but it doesn't mean you have to stay or that you are obligated to stay because you've forgiven them. It's not about pride or ego, you leave because of your own wellness, your mental and emotional health and to protect the sanity you still have left.
100% just because you forgive doesn’t mean you have to stay and be miserable
If you found out the children you’ve been raising aren’t biologically yours, how would you handle it?
First stop is fertility doctor then handle things hopefully in my best interests
Separate myself from them legally and financially and go on with my life.
Id go to jail....
Sorry Matthew but the respect bit is true. Women are just wired to search for that stuff. Once they realize they can, they will
Very interesting. Matthews point is clearly harder to grasp since it goes against intuition.
Cause it’s saying cuckery is emotional control 😂
It's not only against intuition. It's against nature. Simple as that. Men will cheat on women due to physical aspect (hotter girl, lack of sex in relationship etc. but he will not lose respect for his partner/wife).Women will cheat due to emotional reason. She stopped respecting her husband/partner as main provider and career. She will give her body to someone who is better (according to her).
Check what men or women are being afraid of whenentioning about cheating? Women as men if he loves the other women. Men ask women if she finds other guy more sexy (better body) or bigger wealth. This is simple projection. Women know emotional connection is nail to the coffin (as their reason for cheating is emotional) and can forgive men if it's not emotional cheating. If you will take cheating women back she will lose all the respect to you. Doesn't matter what she will say. Don't believe in what women say but in what they will do.
And I will repeat myself here, but you should forgive your woman for cheating, as bitterness and rage or desire of revabge will consume you. However you should never forget how you felt because of her.
can you elaborate
@@JJ-vp3bd feeling disrespected is usually a signal of somebody disrespecting u. Especially when in reaction to a disrespectful act like cheating. Ignoring that signal lets somebody disrespect u. Idk what are you confused about
that’s mainly because it’s not the natural response and can only be rationalized by someone who has chosen to forgive a cheating partner. that wound rarely ever heals on both sides
Shes right tho
You can have your self-respect or you can take a cheater back. You can't have both. I prefer my self-respect. I dumped a cheating gf 40 years ago and NEVER missed her a day.
The main reason is because the power dynamic shifts. When a man cheats, the woman is scared he will do it again, and values the relationship more than the disrespect. She is the adorer in this case and the man is the adored. She is chasing him. When a woman cheats, it is the opposite, and that does not work. When a man is scared of his girl cheating again, displays insecure behavior etc. She is going to see him as beneath her in an interpersonal sense. The power dynamic where a woman is above her man means she will not be turned on by her man, not attracted to her man, and be more willing to disrespect that man, not least because she isn’t afraid of losing the relationship any longer.
It seems to me like he`s not ready to hear the truth and is irritated by it. I am one hundred percent with her.
When my ex cheated on me she felt no guilt but only regret she got caught. She even said to me she thought it would just run it’s course without me ever knowing. While she was having her fun while giving me a sexless marriage I was working my ass off to provide a home for our family. I do believe she had a lack of respect for me as well of some sense of entitlement to have whatever she wanted on a whim. Perhaps I should have gone outside the marriage to get my needs met? Instead I had a sense of duty and responsibility to my family so my needs came last. I’ve always said it amazes me what grown adults will do to F up their lives.
how did you deal with it
@@JJ-vp3bd after almost blowing my brains out I realized she wasn’t worth it and my kids needed their father. Actually pretty pathetic but luckily I snapped out of it. Life is good now.
Ofc she disrespectrd you, lol. Wtf?!?! How is that even a question, she didnt give you sex, thats disrespect in itself. You should have kicked her out then and certainly stop providing for the family.
@@georgeharvey3062damn bro......
Dont listen to that man. If she cheats, it is over. Respect yourself and walk away
The woman here knows men better than this man lol
She is very sharp and knows where he is going to and waiting for him to come to there.
I feel like they’re talking about two types of infidelity. Matt is talking about the “accidental” one timers that may border on SA. Someone gets drunk and someone else insists too hard or doesn’t resist hard enough. The next day no one is sure how it happened, only that it did. Shame and regret.
Sadia is talking about the “affairs” where there is the repeated choice to deceive, over and over. Any sort of “shame” only comes about from the embarrassment of being exposed or ultimately rejected.
What she is saying is so true and at the same time incredibly sad for us males who are slow to awaken . I have finally woken up to this truth and it’s incredible painful to know how delusional I have been.
I would never forgive my wife if she cheated.
This whole conversation boiled down to the fact that men and women love differently. Women mostly love what her man represents to her as a man. His character, status, his physical standing. She will continually compare him to other men to validate these things. Men love more individually. Men usually see the things they are attracted to about her to set her apart from other women. She's the special one to him.
The thing is, men value respect above love. Why? Because love is selfish, respect puts others before yourself.
If you choose your own feelings over the emotions of another, you can love them all you want, but that means that love, or the direction you're focusing it towards, is only temporary.
If you respect someone, you always value their emotions, their desires, and their trust more than your own fleeting satisfactions.
If you break trust, if you discard respect, the love has no meaning. Its no different than defining your emotions based on the direction of the wind.
Respect and loyalty, I would say. Love is nothing, women say a lot of things but its pretty simply. If she loves you, she wants to have sex with you. If she loves you she would not cheat ever. Love is just a word, it means nothing. Its a feeling and feelings change. To prevent a relationship from falling apart their need to be boundaries, based in logic.
A very eye opening Podcast. Thanks for the insights. I hope alot men see this and learn.
She explaind it perfectly when she said, that the cheating shows that the relationship doesn't mean the same thing to both partners.
When you love your partner so that you would never cheat on them, but they cheat on you, then it PROVES that they don't love you the way you love them and never did most likely.
8:54 Forgiveness and restitution are two different things. This guy is conflating forgiveness with the idea that you should accept anyone's behavior. That is not the case. A man still have to rest on his laurels.
Ppl are missing the point. Cheating is wrong for both sides,however, the kicker is, how are they wrong, and in what sense?
Sadiq is right, both genders' wrongs are different. Whether u wanna forgive or not that should be taken into consideration.
I've known guys who have regular "fun" trips but stays "loyal" in their relationship, meaning still care and love their spouse and kids (if they have) the same. Treats them the same as if nothing happened.
Can't say the same for the other way around though. I thk probably due to females are usually more emotionally involved.
Exactly this, men and women are not the same. We can "cheat" and still love our wifes. Women can only be loyal to one man at a time. So if she aint sleepong with you in a marriage, she is sleeping with somebody else.
Cheating is simply a Dealbreaker. It’s made clear upfront. It is a standard in which I hold myself and whomever I decide to get into a relationship with. Take it or leave it.
Something must be wrong with me because I find the bluepill simp, Hussy, really difficult to listen to. So naive.
Nope, you're 100% thinking clearly on the matter so props to you on your wokeness. lol
He's still blue pilled so that's why he sounds so cringey... because he is. 😄
i think she is right, especially with the masculinity part. Media tries to portrai a new way of masculinity which, in my eyes, is actually weak with no backbone and women like the idea of that but dont respond well to it though. sure forgiveness goes a long way but as soon as you, as a man, disrespect yourself in front of a woman your not masculine anymore. might as well change your gender (pun intended)
It’s not brave…it’s foolish to forgive and try to continue a marriage. If someone cheats they have lost respect for you….they don’t see you as valuable and an equal. They see you as beneath them and not worthy. If they reconcile there is no trust and cannot be ever. Even years down the line there will always be some degree of angst when the cheater doesn’t answer the phone, goes on a trip….or isn’t in a normal mood. There will be questions in the back of their mind….
Remember men you can’t give someone something they can’t give themselves respect, loyalty, love, it’s our job to vet these women see take them on dates with and without money, there true colors for you come out quickly, and it’s your job to inform them about some boundaries others you don’t speak of and when they cross those just politely let them know you are no longer interested
Cheating is always wrong regardless if it's a man or woman, with compartmentalization or not. If you cheated, then I get even, will you forgive me? There you go.
Same
Not true, when women do it its different
He’s telling a woman how she should feel about cheating. She’s telling how women ACTUALLY feel. He doesn’t want to hear it.
Dear men please listen to her lol don’t listen to this guy he will loose clients if he says otherwise 😂
Who do you agree with?
I agree with Sadie 100 percent
Sadia ...
Sadia, easily.
Sadia
Sadia
This man is crazy
Lol well he's definitely blue pilled on female nature so in a sense you're not wrong. 😄
And he's also a so called dating coach for women so isn't that interesting.
Just because you forgive them doesn't mean you have to take them back.
And THAT'S the key difference I think they disagree on and where I agree with Sadia and disagree with Matthew.
where can i see the full video?
Is there a link to this whole debate?
3:32 true. I forgave my girl friend for cheating on me. She left me after few months
Matt completely dismissed that one crucial element every human must have: ACCOUNTABILITY.
Around the 7:23 mark when he speaks about honour, if there is any feeling of being honourable left, the woman needs to make a peaceful split happen and help make the transition to both their new lives without each other as smooth as possible. That's the honourable thing to do. What Matt suggested is endorsing selfish behaviour.
Also, forgiving a cheater is just going to fester resentment inside the heart of the person cheated on which is unhealthy. You cannot just invalidate and wish away the feeling of resentment. Matt needs to be less idealistic and be more realistic about how the human mind works. This is what Sadia who is a psychologist understand and Matt who is not, don't understand. So obviously this makes the couple staying together to be a bad idea. If the cheater truly "love" her partner which is already hard to believe at this point, she would work together with him to find a way for them both to move on peacefully without each other.
I would only slightly disagree with Sadia, I believe it is equally as bad for men to cheat although she did say there's not much hope of coming back if the men cheats. Men should 100% be equally as accountable for their actions just like women are expected to. And as for Matt, he is good when it comes to courtship advice. Relationship maintenance is a whole different ball game than courtship.
I 100 percent agree with you. forgiving and forgetting are two different things. as humans we never forget anything that caused us trauma and pain it’s that simple. we try to deal with it and move on but it’s impossible when we continue to see the source of that trauma or pain.
Buddy is struggling to defend his fanbase 😂😂