excellent points made here brother!!! I love your comparison of the different soles to different types of tires, they each have their unique purpose! I agree, dainite is a wonderful middle-of-the-road sole that is great for everyday general purposes!!!
The thing about Dainite soles, is that for most people, most of the time; They. Just. Work. Sure, there are better soles for specific tasks out there, but for a true general purpose sole, a Dainite is hard to beat. It's also worth remembering just how much of a revolutionary design they were when they first came out. At the time, the options were pretty much either a plain leather sole for town/formal wear, or a leather sole with hobnails for country/work wear. Then, in 1910, the Dainite sole came out, pretty much paving the way for the branded replacement sole industry... Oh, and as a PS, check out William Lennon Boots. I think they may be just your thing...
The 430 sole is my favorite one. I don't know this for fact, but specifically the one Nicks and White's uses. It's cushiony but still grippy and long lasting. The one on Red Wings is JUNK. Hard. It's slick and has less bounce. This might be good for wear and tear, but it's rough on your feet and knees. Dainite isn't bad. It has my favorite profile but it's kind of dangerous. I've had too many close calls with it. I try to avoid it when possible.
Miguel Vargas this is really good input; thank you for posting it. I have not tried 430 on Nicks or Whites, but now you make me want to. I’ve only tried the Red Wing version. Makes me wonder if the difference isn’t the actual 430 but instead the fact that Red Wing IRs have no real midsole, which is often the source of their extreme discomfort. Will have to look into this.....And yes, Dainite and ice/water/oil is a very scary and dangerous combo. Thanks for watching👍🏽
@@thevintagefuture6567 I thought the same thing about the IR's but I think it is a different version of the 430. It's a lot slicker. I've worn it at my local mall and have almost busted my ass. My white's or nicks never had that problem with their 430. It's grippy as hell and has a nice bounce. And for sure, big fan of your content. You've picked up the torch IMO. A lot of the other boot channels haven't really been doing it for me lately. So your content is always welcomed in my feed.
Miguel Vargas ok wow, that’s super interesting about your 430 experiences. I’m quite intrigued now:) Gotta try different 430s at some point....which Nicks/Whites do you have, by the way? My first Nicks (BPs) are arriving in March. I can’t wait!....and I’m super stoked you find the channel worthwhile. Lemme know if you ever have an idea for a video you’d want me to do👍🏽 I try to do stuff that wasn’t available when I needed it most.
@@thevintagefuture6567 @Miguel Vargas Thanks, David and Miguel for your input. I live and work in Alaska and I'm just starting to switch out from sneakers to boots. Those Dainites will not work for me, I'll avoid them.
George Carlin2 glad to hear our little discussion may have saved you from a Dainite demise🤣😃 And, Alaska- that’s cool 🥶😎It’s beautiful there, yes? I’ve always wanted to visit. I have a friend from there and enjoy watching those nature shows😆
Leather soles are my favorite, they have good grip in most cases however I did slip down a flight of stairs so don't go running down slippery wooden floors especially after waxing/treating the leather soles.
@@thevintagefuture6567 Thank you! Yeah my right arm caught the handrail and I held on for dear life while I was sliding lmao! I got out with some bruises and a little bleeding on the inside of my elbow but I learned my lesson 😅
Great content! I really enjoy the style of your videos and the topics you cover. I would love to see a video going more in depth on all of the sole types you have experienced.
Bryason Korver happy to hear you enjoy the channel! I’ll put that suggestion on the list! I just need to put some more miles on certain soles before I can do an accurate comprehensive comparison, but maybe I can do some of them one at a time. Do you have a favorite sole these days?
the vibram 430 is the best sole in my opinion..the one that is black... the brown one which is used by redwing is brown and is made of a different compund ie nitrile..it lasts a long long time but it provides less grip than the black one... also the vibram version of dainite is called eton and its way way more grippy than dainites but is slightly less long lasting..
Once the Dainite lugs wear down then the rest of the sole takes a lot longer to wear out. I've worn out a few Dainite soles and they get soft and more flexible until you feel a lot more ground beneath the sole and then it is time to replace them. You're right that they are really "urban" soles and designed to have a low profile and for "country" use in wet and muddy UK you would typically have much deeper lugged soles.
Danite were the first synthetic soled shoes/ boots, I ever had. I paid £100 in sale at a gun shop UK. That was closing down I was dubious about the sole and the original £650, price tag. Though ten tears latter when GF tried to buy me another pair, the only ones she could find were second hand £350. So my original purchase was a real bargain. Never worn any other sole since, excepting trainers. The thing I loved most was they didn't look agricultural, and when things went wrong, I didn't have to worry nearly as much about treacherous leather soles.
Nice review! Personally I'm a city guy so I love the Dainite! I work as a nurse on very slippery floors so I can't use leather soles but the Dainite are perfect for gripping on flat floors and they're bouncy enough to walk in them for 8-10 hours. I think the wedge soles would work too but I don't really like their look.
Dainite are on a pair of chukkas and 2030 Viberg boots I own but I really wish I had mini-lug instead. They cause me to slip around the couple of times I had worn them on ice and it's lack of versatility turns me off.
@@thevintagefuture6567 I was a starter in college but a reliever with the Indians! Nothing special just fastball, curveball, change-up. It was a great experience and I had some talented teammates in the minors..one of them won the Cy Young this year!
One thing I wish oem bootmakers would install their dainites with a channel stitch; neither of my Allen Edmonds dainites are channel stitched unfortunately. Maybe that’s just an allen edmonds thing but I dont think so according to cobblers plus RUclips channel
Yes! Great observation! A channel stitch would be amazing. Granted, the sole probably stays on fine even if the stitches wear through, but still, if the stitches are there, they may as well be better protected 🤷🏽♂️ Good idea
Any lug sole will be a bit better. For real icy conditions, nothing beats a boot designed for snow, which won’t be anything in the heritage boot genre unfortunately.
Terry B to be honest I’m probably not the best person to ask because I live in California, where I only experience ice occasionally. I would think Vibram 430 might fit the bill. Better to ask @aerosurferlv or @carlmurawski since they live in colder climates
@@thevintagefuture6567 THX for taking a stab at it. I'm currently talking to Viberg on another pair (this time tEngineer boots) so I'll ask them. Cheers
Charles Bronson nothing wrong with that! Every sole has strengths and weaknesses. I like full lug soles the best, but they’re very impractical sometimes. Wedge soles are the comfiest. 430 and Dainite are great all-around low profile soles, but the shock absorption sucks (ouch, my back:). Ridgeway looks interesting....
excellent points made here brother!!! I love your comparison of the different soles to different types of tires, they each have their unique purpose! I agree, dainite is a wonderful middle-of-the-road sole that is great for everyday general purposes!!!
aerosurferlv thanks brother! Tires: some tires hang over your belt. Other tires hang WAAAAY over your belt🤣
The thing about Dainite soles, is that for most people, most of the time; They. Just. Work. Sure, there are better soles for specific tasks out there, but for a true general purpose sole, a Dainite is hard to beat. It's also worth remembering just how much of a revolutionary design they were when they first came out. At the time, the options were pretty much either a plain leather sole for town/formal wear, or a leather sole with hobnails for country/work wear. Then, in 1910, the Dainite sole came out, pretty much paving the way for the branded replacement sole industry...
Oh, and as a PS, check out William Lennon Boots. I think they may be just your thing...
Thanks! Super fascinating info! I love your perspective on what Dainite accomplished when it first came out. And I’ll be sure to check out WL.
The 430 sole is my favorite one. I don't know this for fact, but specifically the one Nicks and White's uses. It's cushiony but still grippy and long lasting. The one on Red Wings is JUNK. Hard. It's slick and has less bounce. This might be good for wear and tear, but it's rough on your feet and knees. Dainite isn't bad. It has my favorite profile but it's kind of dangerous. I've had too many close calls with it. I try to avoid it when possible.
Miguel Vargas this is really good input; thank you for posting it. I have not tried 430 on Nicks or Whites, but now you make me want to. I’ve only tried the Red Wing version. Makes me wonder if the difference isn’t the actual 430 but instead the fact that Red Wing IRs have no real midsole, which is often the source of their extreme discomfort. Will have to look into this.....And yes, Dainite and ice/water/oil is a very scary and dangerous combo. Thanks for watching👍🏽
@@thevintagefuture6567 I thought the same thing about the IR's but I think it is a different version of the 430. It's a lot slicker. I've worn it at my local mall and have almost busted my ass. My white's or nicks never had that problem with their 430. It's grippy as hell and has a nice bounce. And for sure, big fan of your content. You've picked up the torch IMO. A lot of the other boot channels haven't really been doing it for me lately. So your content is always welcomed in my feed.
Miguel Vargas ok wow, that’s super interesting about your 430 experiences. I’m quite intrigued now:) Gotta try different 430s at some point....which Nicks/Whites do you have, by the way? My first Nicks (BPs) are arriving in March. I can’t wait!....and I’m super stoked you find the channel worthwhile. Lemme know if you ever have an idea for a video you’d want me to do👍🏽 I try to do stuff that wasn’t available when I needed it most.
@@thevintagefuture6567 @Miguel Vargas Thanks, David and Miguel for your input. I live and work in Alaska and I'm just starting to switch out from sneakers to boots. Those Dainites will not work for me, I'll avoid them.
George Carlin2 glad to hear our little discussion may have saved you from a Dainite demise🤣😃 And, Alaska- that’s cool 🥶😎It’s beautiful there, yes? I’ve always wanted to visit. I have a friend from there and enjoy watching those nature shows😆
Leather soles are my favorite, they have good grip in most cases however I did slip down a flight of stairs so don't go running down slippery wooden floors especially after waxing/treating the leather soles.
Oh man, glad you’re ok after that fall! But yes, since making this video I have grown to absolutely love leather soles too
@@thevintagefuture6567 Thank you! Yeah my right arm caught the handrail and I held on for dear life while I was sliding lmao! I got out with some bruises and a little bleeding on the inside of my elbow but I learned my lesson 😅
Great content! I really enjoy the style of your videos and the topics you cover. I would love to see a video going more in depth on all of the sole types you have experienced.
Bryason Korver happy to hear you enjoy the channel! I’ll put that suggestion on the list! I just need to put some more miles on certain soles before I can do an accurate comprehensive comparison, but maybe I can do some of them one at a time. Do you have a favorite sole these days?
You know what, you’ve got great smiles sir
Yizhong Hu thanks! I really appreciate that comment! I’m pretty happy, but I’m not sure if that comes through sometimes. Blessings on you 🙏🏽
Honey Vibram 100L (natural edges) 👌👌
the vibram 430 is the best sole in my opinion..the one that is black... the brown one which is used by redwing is brown and is made of a different compund ie nitrile..it lasts a long long time but it provides less grip than the black one... also the vibram version of dainite is called eton and its way way more grippy than dainites but is slightly less long lasting..
Really great info here! Thanks so much for dropping it in here 🙌🏽
Once the Dainite lugs wear down then the rest of the sole takes a lot longer to wear out. I've worn out a few Dainite soles and they get soft and more flexible until you feel a lot more ground beneath the sole and then it is time to replace them.
You're right that they are really "urban" soles and designed to have a low profile and for "country" use in wet and muddy UK you would typically have much deeper lugged soles.
Danite were the first synthetic soled shoes/ boots, I ever had.
I paid £100 in sale at a gun shop UK. That was closing down I was dubious about the sole and the original £650, price tag. Though ten tears latter when GF tried to buy me another pair, the only ones she could find were second hand £350. So my original purchase was a real bargain. Never worn any other sole since, excepting trainers. The thing I loved most was they didn't look agricultural, and when things went wrong, I didn't have to worry nearly as much about treacherous leather soles.
It's a great sole especially for sitting in traffic with less than ideal leg room in your car.
🤣🤣🤣 well played! Hahahaha
Have dainites on my Allen Edmonds higgins mill and a pair of Allen Edmonds dress shoes. Very good for NYC without looking too “off road.”
It’s like the Vibram of dressy shoes
Love Dainite-I wish Alden would use it. 100+ year old design still very relevant.
Because Aden is in denial. that's Pride they think their soles are better than others
Nice review!
Personally I'm a city guy so I love the Dainite! I work as a nurse on very slippery floors so I can't use leather soles but the Dainite are perfect for gripping on flat floors and they're bouncy enough to walk in them for 8-10 hours. I think the wedge soles would work too but I don't really like their look.
boaltjeh so cool! I love your input here! Great description of how those soles function. And, my wife is a nurse! NICU. What unit are you on?
@@thevintagefuture6567 Haha nice! I work in a forensic psychiatric hospital so I can use some decent footwear ;)
boaltjeh oh wow! Respect!
Well put.
Dainite are on a pair of chukkas and 2030 Viberg boots I own but I really wish I had mini-lug instead. They cause me to slip around the couple of times I had worn them on ice and it's lack of versatility turns me off.
Great video brother! Thanks for sharing
Mike L for sure! Btw, is that you in the profile pic? Do you play ball?
@@thevintagefuture6567 it is me! I played in the minors with the Cleveland Indians. I’m retired now though!
Mike L that’s so so cool! Pitcher? Were you a starter? Closer? Specialty? What were some of your signature pitches?
@@thevintagefuture6567 I was a starter in college but a reliever with the Indians! Nothing special just fastball, curveball, change-up. It was a great experience and I had some talented teammates in the minors..one of them won the Cy Young this year!
One thing I wish oem bootmakers would install their dainites with a channel stitch; neither of my Allen Edmonds dainites are channel stitched unfortunately. Maybe that’s just an allen edmonds thing but I dont think so according to cobblers plus RUclips channel
Yes! Great observation! A channel stitch would be amazing. Granted, the sole probably stays on fine even if the stitches wear through, but still, if the stitches are there, they may as well be better protected 🤷🏽♂️ Good idea
My Whites and one pair of Viberg don’t have channels. They should for what they charge.
any recommendations for icy conditions? some of these rubber soles turn into a brick in -10 and below ...
Any lug sole will be a bit better. For real icy conditions, nothing beats a boot designed for snow, which won’t be anything in the heritage boot genre unfortunately.
In your experience which sole would be the best for icy conditions for an urban boot and a good sole for a work style boots as well. THX
Terry B to be honest I’m probably not the best person to ask because I live in California, where I only experience ice occasionally. I would think Vibram 430 might fit the bill. Better to ask @aerosurferlv or @carlmurawski since they live in colder climates
@@thevintagefuture6567 THX for taking a stab at it. I'm currently talking to Viberg on another pair (this time tEngineer boots) so I'll ask them. Cheers
found this - ruclips.net/video/gFHIyWhIwUM/видео.html
Vibram V100 will give you not only traction but enough hammering power to crush the ice beneath your feet.
Come to think of it, i dont have a preferred sole. 🤔
Charles Bronson nothing wrong with that! Every sole has strengths and weaknesses. I like full lug soles the best, but they’re very impractical sometimes. Wedge soles are the comfiest. 430 and Dainite are great all-around low profile soles, but the shock absorption sucks (ouch, my back:). Ridgeway looks interesting....
@@thevintagefuture6567 red wing makes some pretty decent soles too.