Vice City and Resident Evil CENSORED?! - Glasses Off
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- Опубликовано: 9 сен 2024
- Grand Theft Auto: The Trilogy: The Definitive Edition (catchy name) is in the spotlight due to some alterations made to Vice City that some find perplexing. Resident Evil 4 VR is also in a similar situation. Are these just capitulations to the "woke mob" (whatever that means) or is there something far less interesting at play? Should important pieces of art be edited to evolve with the times? It's been a while since I've done a Glasses Off and I have some thoughts.
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I hate that we can't have bad characters do bad things anymore. When RE8 released people pointed out that Heisenberg had a Nazi dog tag or something and complained because they liked him before... He's a fucking villain, he's a bad guy, he helped take an infant child, disect her and tried to convince her father to put her back together and use her like a weapon, he's a bad guy, let him do and have done bad things, it's not like he's presented as a paragon of justice and heroism
Weren't his Dog Tags not actually Nazi ones, but Roman ones that just look really like the Nazi ones
He wasn't even a nazi, those were Romanian dog tags. But what can we expect from games journalist tier investigations?
Ironically I'm a far leftist and think Heisenberg is awesome
@@pureevil9496 yea because you have wrinkles on your brain
@@nickrustyson8124 The dog tags he wore were a style used by Germany in WWI and by both Germany and Romania in WWII.
"I have personally killed thousands of cops."
- Chris Ray Gun, 2021
Local Hispanic with brittle bone disease reveals ROAD of corpses, declares confederacy will never fall, 2021 pixelated
#ACAB
Dont forget he also defend the confederate flag I have a 6second clip to prove it
@@Joe-fj6dj #ACRAB
>and I enjoyed it
Rockstar: Vice City removes Confederate Flags
Community Modders: Adds Confederate Flags back
probably turn all flags in the game confederate at that point just to shit on R*
Merged with the nazi flag for good measure.
@@OddityDK Or even the Kekistan flag
@@David-tu9gj then you'd hear news articles claiming "alt right redditors add in the kekistan flag to show their love of hitler and hate of women"
LMFAOOOOO. GODLY.
Chris: Distancing an obvious far right caricature from the confederate flag doesn't make sense.
Twitter: Why do you like Nazis, Chris?
I mean what do you think it's Twitter the brain cells they have has been either ratio people or think you're better than someone because you're "aware" and "woke"
Yeah I notice it too I was watching the movie Valkyrie starring Tom Cruise on cable and they edit out The Nazi salute like what the F man
@@BargerClan If I remember correctly, the character he was playing was saluting with his arm which was missing his hand. So basically that moment was symbolic of the hypocrisy of the Third Reich. That while they claimed to care so much about the "Aryan race" and building their world dominated by the Nazi party to secure a future "for Aryans," etc.. They were perfectly content to send "Aryans" to get themselves maimed and slaughtered in war while fighting for the dominance of the Nazi party. So it's all the more ironic if they censored that.
TLDR; Censorship is wrong, stop it, get some help...
You spelled “Enemy team” wrong. Looks like it’s off to a re-education camp for you
Simple fact is crazy and bad characters can also be idolized and emulated. Look at the Joker. Not likely that Phil will be the next Joker, but "they're bad so using bad symbols on them is good" doesn't hold up. People aren't so simple as to be controlled in that way. People don't automatically see a bad person in media and think "I will not emulate this" and the Joker is a great example. People emulate bad characters for fun all the time, often in an edgy and unironic way. If a private company wants to remove a bad symbol from a character in a remake, you have no place forcing them to keep it. The original game ROM is still out there. History isn't being erased. A new release has new things a private company chose to alter, that's their freedom of speech being used.
The ctr remake swithed the word "slaves" into "minions". And Im glad they solved slavery with that important change.
i never heard about this! So glad that slavery has finally been solved by a company brave enough to use a synonym.
Exactly it's not slavery if they're just unpaid, unwilling minion workers
And Disney is trying to remove slavery from Star Wars. Eg renaming the Slave I. Even though slavery plays a key role in the universe, and DARTH MOTHER FUCKING VADER STARTED LIFE AS A SLAVE.
GitHub changed the primary branch names from master to main
First thing I do every new project is change the name to master because I’m an absolute madman
@@broomybroomybroomy Based and codepilled.
You're 100% right on your point about other forms of art rarely seeing censorship. Feels very disrespectful to games in general. Whether it's something big (Super Hot VR) or something small like flirting removed from RE:4 it's disheartening for a reason that's almost hard to explain.
What happened to Super Hot?
@@jomahawk7488 They decided to remove all scenes of self harm even though there was a toggle in settings that already let you skip them. They added to the story and kinda built up the immersion but the devs thought they “wanted to do better” and got rid of them after years of being in the game.
When I was a kid we got a few Looney Toons box sets that had a foreword by Whoopi Goldberg saying they had racist caricatures but they needed to be preserved and presented as originally intended for future entertainment. You can find it on YT.
She'd probably completely change her tune now, but still.
@@shahyahdarioosh5148 The devs are fucking retards then. If they want to be a goody two-shoes then maybe they shouldn't make a game that has you killing other people in the first place. There is literally only one thing to say to people who come after your game because it inspires violence, and that is "piss off, it's art".
@@shahyahdarioosh5148 can I download a patch to put those back in?
I don’t want games to be sterilized so big companies don’t feel uncomfortable making money
It ain't right if it isn't Wong
Aw shoot he changed his comment now mine don't make much sense
@@tempoaccla4041 it's not woke bastards, it's coward corporations too scared about losing some money
@@ffffffffffffffff5840 So woke bastards by degrees removed, got it.
@@ffffffffffffffff5840, did you ever stop to ask yourself *why* those corporate individuals are so scared?
Wokeness/Social Justice is still at the core of the rot, and it always has been. Go to an H/R or business ethics class in any modern university, and you will easily see why these gargantuan companies routinely capitulate to these demands. These CEOs are bred for submissiveness.
@@flyingphoenix113 money *always* fucks up artistic intent
"In the name of making this game appeal to people who don't like the confederacy, we have removed all associations between the confederacy and stupid people. Thank you for your time, GTA 6 never"
It seems few people understand the actual concerns people have, it seems small to remove the flag off his shirt for instance but these were made at a time when a lot of the jokes, references and so much more that the snowflakes will find offensive. So this opens the door to unreasonable censorship. What else has been changed that's absolutely ridiculous to remove.
@@greedgod5827 You seem to be forgetting the Haitian Friendly cut of Vice City way back in 2003
Only big brain games here, we are above all that scum and villainy as we rake in as much money as we possibly can while sheltering ourselves away from the world so we don’t have to deal with any of your silly problems.
@@nickrustyson8124 that was cuz the actual Haitian mob and Community interfered with Rockstar to remove the Haitian mobs "cruelness" depicted in the game in their region, I still have the OG PS 2 copy of the game ,and it is not censored at all.
@@Ori--pw5vw They didn't remove the mobs, they removed a lot of dialog that referns to the gang as Haitians, they did the same with the Cubans too
Yeah, stuff like this really only happens to video games. I've been watching Seinfeld again recently and that show has a loooooot of stuff that would not be allowed if the show was made today. You don't see them re-shooting the George Costanza gay panic episodes, because that would be entirely ridiculous. I think part of it is that it's much easier to change stuff within a game without it being completely obvious to the layman, whereas trying to re-edit or re-shoot Schindler's List 30 years later would stick out like a sore thumb. Hopefully they'll learn eventually, but what are the chances of that?
TV shows have also removed controversial episodes for similar BS reasons. It's laughably easy for corporations to sanitize their shit out of cowardice.
Oof Gay Panic stuff is nuts tho. But I agree nonetheless
Hey deadwing
@Daniel Laszlo Yeaaa, this is definitely more than a little bit to do about nothing, full scale censorship wasn’t awesome in the 90’s with the FCC and it’s not better in 2021. But I feel like Chris and others who came from the era where they called our ridiculousness without pulling punches, left or right wing have had to fall in line or straddle the fence even more. What I dint think they realize is in going half tilt, they hurt both viewerships, the people who are poloraized on either side and the people who just want straight factual content without having it be bookended by “well I don’t want to go THAT far”. But hey, I’d call that a no win scenario
"Not that there's anything wrong with that"
Oh god, Ethan GAAAACH wrote the gta trilogy article, the lore grows ever deeper
Don't you mean Ethan GEEEKH?
DEEEPAAAAAH
>Chris ray gun video lore:
His name is the noise of disgust you make when you remember that he exists; it's perfect.
Aside from his name sounding like a bulimic person's breakfast plummeting out of their mouth, remind me what he did?
In the author's afterword for the 1979 edition of "Fahrenheit 451", Ray Bradbury had this interesting experience with "fans":
"About two years ago, a letter arrived from a solemn young Vassar lady telling me how much she enjoyed reading my experiment in space mythology, The Martian Chronicles. But, she added, wouldn't it be a good idea, this late in time, to rewrite the book inserting more women's characters and roles?
A few years before that, I got a certain amount of mail concerning the same Martian book, complaining that the blacks in the book were Uncle Toms and why didn't I 'do them over'?
Along about then came a note from a Southern white suggesting that I was prejudiced in favor of the blacks and that the entire story should be dropped."
The afterword then goes into great detail explaining how deeply, deeply stupid these notions were and how he would be damned if he was going to allow anyone to alter his art. He ends it with:
"In sum, do not insult me with the beheadings, finger-choppings or the lung-deflations you plan for my works. I need my head to shake or nod, my hand to wave or make into a fist, my lungs to shout or whisper with. I will not go gently onto a shelf, degutted, to become a non-book."
Videogame designers and everyone else would be wise to emulate the late, great Ray Bradbury, he knew where all this bullshit would lead.....
💯💯💯💯💯💯💯💯💯💯💯💯💯
I have a newfound respect for him now.
Dude Fahrenheit 451 been taken out the schools curriculum, I'm shocked 😲
@@denbleach3712 Of course that book has been removed from school curriculums. That comes as a surprise to absolutely no one that has had any experience with the US public educational system. It's Ray Bradbury's world, we're just living in it....
@@denbleach3712 it’s peak irony when it isn’t included because of stupid reasons.
Something no one mentions about RE4VR is that they make your in game hands invisible if they get close to Ashley. Any other character model or object your hands will just clip through like is standard in VR, but for Ashley they made them vanish, presumably to keep you from being weird with her. So nobody worry, the in game babysitter is here to make sure you don't hear anything sexist or touch anything wrong, everything will be alright...
I mean... I'm okay with anti-pedophile technology in all fairness.
@@JZStudiosonline Interesting bit of trivia about yourself there. How's it relate to fake hands clipping through the model representing a character who's supposed to be 20 years old?
@@JZStudiosonline According to all the wikis she is 20 in the game. She doesn't look 14. Keep in mind that one of the lines they removed was "it appears the president's daughter was armed with ballistics"
@@JZStudiosonline She doesn’t even look 14, and she was said to be 20 in the Japanese version too. Google “アシュリー捜査のメモ” and look up the RUclips video, for example. Notice the “(20)” on the second slide? That’s her age. In the Japanese version of the game.
Like, genuinely, where do you get off with making these idiotic statements, and upon being called out, come up with a dumbass, invalid excuse? You should genuinely be ashamed.
And no, it’s not “just a game”. Misinformation spreading like this, where clowns like you pull things out of their ass, is a wider problem.
Damn that's as hilarious as it is depressing.
The reason why we shouldn't change movies, books, games etc. Is simple: art is meant to make you think. These artforms are supposed to tell us stories and we can interpret them however we want to. Being okay, or not being okay with a racist character for instance is completely up to the viewer.
Disney took the right approach towards this and just gave a warning for it's older movies
@@Wofulrumble4893 I disagree. It insults the audience's intelligence and it sets a precedent that after X years and several cultural shifts later, every piece of content will have to be tagged as outdated.
@@Wofulrumble4893 agreed.
Certain people would be like "WeLl I don't WaNnA tHiNK" then why the fuck do you do anything?
@@Wofulrumble4893 Disney owns 10%of the entertainment industry. Theyre not gonna give you a C-note for preachin.
The reason why we shouldn’t change old works is because they not only act as time capsules of their respective eras, but they also allows us to compare old sensibilities to our modern sensibilities.
Isn't updating the graphics also a change to the art? Or updating control schemes to more modern ones
@@joesecord3066 I’m not talking control schemes or graphics. I’m more talking stuff like subtext or story themes. I’m specifically talking about rereleases and remasters, not straight up remakes or reimaginings.
Yeah if you start changing past works to today's standerds. Like taking the N word out of huckleberry Finn (not read it but I'm sure the black guy calls him self n word Jim)
Then you start rewriting history and make it hard for people in modern times to understand why the past was bad in terms of equality.
Things start becoming smudged. My version of vice city might not be your version.
@@kingbash6466 My point is, that these seem to be changes we're okay with and don't care about preserving them. The old graphics and controls are also a representation of the era it was made in. I'm just curious at why we're okay with these changes to modernize a game, but not others.
@@joesecord3066 It really depends on the situation, and even then, not everyone likes those changes. I’m sure you can speak to any Silent Hill fan. and they’ll say that the original look and feel for Silent Hill 2 is vastly superior to the HD collection port. I think the best compromise is to rerelease a port of old games that gives you the the option to experience it as originally intended, while giving others a more streamlined way to play it.
The point about how they only do these kinds of things to video games is perhaps the best observation I've heard on this entire censorship debacle
Yep, especially Japanese games
wtf are you talking about. disney did it to a fuckton of their old stuff on disney+.
@@Molimo95 nah
They do this also with TV Shows like The Simpsons or Movies like Splash and this sucks
Agreed with every word.
Poopy
1:48
Get memed on lol
Let us not forget the German version of Wolfenstein II the New Colosseus erased Hitler's mustache and all swastikas. The result: a smooth man yelling about triangles. Art, ladies and gents.
(Also: the German translation for "historical acknowledgement"... literally bizarro anti-acknowledgement lol)
Oh hi! Fancy seeing you here!
I also agree.
It's genuinely terrifying how much corporations are willing to bend the knee for the almighty dollar. Every time a story like this crops up I always have to wonder how close we are to just having all personality stripped from gaming just to reach the broadest demographic.
Listen here jack, no creativity allowed. Just make Mario do the jump and collect coins. Or else I have pull a Obama move and call up a little air strike.
They arent doing this for money...
Anita Sarkeesian literally said that her favourite game is a platform game where you play as a stick figure.
Because there's no gender and therefore no gender stereotypes. You can impose whatever identity you want on it. And if that's the future of gaming, forget it.
Why are we pretending that this is about money, also "broadest demographic" what the hell do you mean by that
Pretty sure you're just describing boring old Capitalism. No need to get sad or paranoid, just play indie games which don't have to generate exponential growth for shareholders. Alternatively, indulge in game-driven workshops such as DnD, Garry's Mod and VRChat where (as of writing this) your avatar can be literally composed of Confederate flags. You've got the power.
The re4 changes really annoy me. Ashley sticks up for herself when you look up her skirt and when luis comments on her figure. They actually silenced her and ironically made her seem weaker
Luis: "i see they also armed her with ballistics as well" Ashley: *angry stepping*
@@SC-ce3vp she tells him to knock it off and that her figure has nothing to do with the situation
Ash is turned into an even more annoying and harder to command character in this game. its crazy to me that shes almost 40 years old counting her age in the game and the amount of time since the games release, and people are still acting like you are a pervert if you're attracted to the woman you are rescuing.
plus at the time of release, the Rich "HOT" blonde girl was a popular Trope when they were developing this. Ever hear of the Reality show, "The Simple Life"? unfortunately, Paris was the Kim K of the time.
@@Megaman54327 Ashley Graham was a 20 year old college student in RE4. Leon was 26. There would have been nothing wierd or perverse about two healthy young people hooking up.
I always thought Leon turning down Ashley's advances at the end of RE4 as empowering to him.
Not to mention he never once makes any advances towards her and SHE offers without having to be coerced. Ashley Graham is a feminist icon; fuck you, fight me (not actually tho, this is for the bit)
Ballistics, now laugh.
Didn't you know? Empowerment is only cool when women do it, it doesn't count when men do it because then it's MISOGYNY!
Leon don't like his women white.
He likes em *Wong.*
Ooo RUclips actually told me about this video
Fuckin same. I made a new email for work reasons, so all my subscriptions are gone, and this was at the top of my recommendations
same except its a week late...
First time Ive seen a chris video on my feed in months. I almost forgot I was subscribed. Kinda fucked up.
It didn't tell me at all. Here I am a week later.
Never got a single notification.
Remember when rockstar would purposely put shit like this in their game to piss people off? Yeah, causing and promoting controversy around their games was practically their marketing strategy back in the day. Modern rockstar in general just isn't all that great of a corporation
Nah that's the thing they are great now cause they found what sells. They don't care about making people mad to sell a game when they can just shit out gta 5 online again and force you to buy more shark cards.
It also occurs to me that all of the people who used to "fight the man" and were "counter cultural" now find themselves on the side of "the man". Like Howard Stern for example. Every major institution in the western world tows the line of a particular political perspective. We now live in a world where being conservative (or even just being to the right of the furthest left or having the balls to question the mainstream narrative) is counter cultural. It feels so weird to be the same person you've always been and suddenly you're lumped in with legit weirdo white supremacists. I feel a little like the guy from Idiocracy lol.
@@ZeeroDubs I just wish people would stop refering to left as culturally left when they're the biggest supporters of capitalism that throws bones at 'em.
Nah this ain't Rockstar, this is Grove Street Games, yes they are owned by rockstar, but they are absoloute dogwater
@@Yodalemos Man I ain't left or right, here in oklahoma i reckon im bout' in the middle or so.
If you go back far enough, you'll find that the only reason these controversies keep cropping up again and again is because some shadowy corporation is making a killing from it. It was never about morals or improving society. There's no room for ideology in a corporate world.
Kotaku: *Hides in corner
Or maybe they keep cropping up because RUclipsrs keep giving them attention? Seriously, how many people would have even noticed the lack of a Confederate flag on the characters shirt if Chris hadn't pointed it out? How many people were even planning on playing this version to begin with or actively remembering the original Vice City?
This feels very reminiscent of the woke scrabble tournaments controversy that happened earlier this year, where 98 percent of the outrage probably came from people who never knew that televised scrabble tournaments even existed. I certainly didn't.
@@awesometwitchy I can appreciate that some youtubers definitely hyperfocus on these sorts of things and make it a bigger deal than it should be. But it's still a problem, and if no one addresses it, it'll just become the norm. I do have a bias in this, as I'm an aspiring artist myself, so the very idea of something like this happening on the regular deeply troubles me on principle. I understand that media-centric things like this don't matter to most people, but they matter a lot to people like me. Artistic integrity is incredibly important to me and I don't want to be expected to retroactively tweak my work to make it more palatable, or for others to do it without my consent.
@@Snowie7826 As a fellow artist, specifically a 3D modeling enthusiast with a degree in game design, I genuinely sympathize with your desire to not have your work bastardized by over-sensitive people or (as I understand) by corporations that you used to work for who now have legal rights over your artwork.
However, I've also found in recent years that as long as you make an effort to explain your art style and give people a fair chance to change your mind, the only ones who will continue to bother you are the radicals who nobody, not even adamant socialists, want to associate with.
I feel especially comfortable with my own artwork because it contains plenty of examples where I bent societal norms just for fun and learned a great deal doing it, I could use them to have productive conversations with both feminists and traditionalists.
Case in point, I feel that Chris and most RUclipsrs are too afraid of leaving their comfort zones.
@@awesometwitchy I'm much less willing to truck interference with freedom of expression since I live in Australia, whose freedom of speech is going the way of Canada, only worse somehow. Our government are making websites responsible for every single comment that appears there. And if any are deemed to be "offensive" or "abusive", they'll get shut down and penalised very quickly.
My point being, PC culture was manufactured by the elite with the express purpose of shutting down any expression that runs counter to their interests. Throughout history, it's always been artists that have been targeted by the powers that be, because art can push the public's attention in important but neglected directions on a large scale. So I don't oppose this stuff out of fear of the cancel mob (although that is a factor) so much as not wanting society to take another single step down that path. Little by little, doing things like this erode the important messages in our art. If we let it happen, eventually we'll have forgotten what it was we lost in the first place.
It's infinitely sad that context and plain artistic integrity is thrown aside so quickly for a little more money to add to the pile that might as well never end. Excellent video, feel better Chris.
The money to be made in the Chinese market is bonkers though and American corporations are starting to realize it. Just look at John Xina. Say goodbye to skeletons and Winnie the Pooh.
fuck copyright. fuck buyign non physical games.
@@peenywallie BING CHILLING!
"Infinitely". Halo reference?
Its almost as if we live with capitalism and GTA is a capitalistic game 🤣🤣
"Why does a protagonist have to be an inherently good and perfect person? Why does a villain have to be made more palatable?"
This quote right here accurately sums up the issue with woke culture and the entertainment industry.
wOkE cUlTuRe 😂
Yes. Unironically. Yes.
But it's not just woke culture, though that's a significant component of it.
@@TheBiggestMoronYouKnow Yes, unironically yes. It’s identity politics and that’s the catch-all phrase.
“Woke culture” bruh
@@barackobama129 Cope and seethe
“I see that the president has equipped his daughter with ballistics too.”
RIP best line in the game
He called Luis unsavoury 😢
The more we infantilize adults, the worse this will get. We can't keep feeding this.
So we force a game company to include symbols we want, because we're upset that they aren't keeping them around for future releases and re-releases... and that preserves free speech how? It's their freedom as a game developer to publish what they want. Making them keep this would violate their freedoms.
@@pismodude2 That's obviously not what I'm proposing.
@@pismodude2 The rights of corporations to censor what they please when they have the power isn’t pro freedom of speech. You are quite literally supporting the suppression of speech. Corporations rights aren’t being trampled upon by people asking pieces of pre existing art to not be censored. No one is forcing them to do anything. Why are you fine with Apple more than likely pressuring Rock Star to alter their game. But you aren’t okay with people asking to them not to alter it.
@@pismodude2 That's quite a shortsighted, childish libertarian response.
@@pismodude2 i love how hacks like you supposedly support freedom of billionare corporations , to do whatever change they want with their products when it fits your narrative . But when is Elon musk? Colin Huang? Jeff Bezos? then you whine worse than a basic bltch about evil imperialism
LMAO
While I think Chris is right about Apple being a factor, i think he needs to look deeper into the restructuring of Rockstar.
After Red Dead Redemption 2 was released, a lot of key players (those responsible for building Rockstar, writing their scripts, and shaping their overall vision) - were forced out of the company.
There has been a lot of internal memos about how the company is going to start being socially conscious and shy away from the “harmful” humor of past games.
My point is, the company has hired a lot of woke weirdos (the usually corporate hacks who were hired straight out of university) - who want to radically change the culture at the company.
I truly believe we are in for a rude awakening when we see future Rockstar titles completely toned down and stripped of the unapologetic edgy humor that defined them.
So apart of me does wonder if this move was also apart of their initiative to clean things up.
Oof. So no hope for gta6 then
DMA died when Housers left and you won't change my mind. This just reinforces my thoughts.
man i wish game devs had balls like before
i want to see some fucked up shit like man hunt idc if its too dark
its not a kids game so who cares
is it to late to hope for games to have dark humor and problematic?
Damn i bought all their games, if it goes that route guess I'll stop buying
"Modern sensibilities" is a really nice way of saying overly obnoxious and nonsense political correctness
*People who can’t handle themselves and should probably just stay in that padded room.
Puzzies
Modern sensibilities? 😠
Fragile sensibilities. 🤗
We live in a world where people think theory equals practice, and are so dull that they can't understand what keeps going wrong, so they repeat with more anger expecting better results..
Narcissistic, psychopathic, angry. This is what we let the human race become in a few short generations. We protected the weak in our hubris, and now the whole damned race has gone terminally septic.
"The only way out is through."
-M. T. Reznor
Yeah, that’s why I don’t like that term either. “Modern sensibilities” makes it sound like something everyone just started agreeing with when it’s actually lefty political cultists ATTEMPTING to make everyone agree. It’s goofy
@@IIJonnyBoyII I can't handle my emotions so you have to accommodate for that
great video man, this whole thing is bad. it'll only get worse from here as well I'm sure. It's sad
I HATE people that HATE other people. The comment I respond to did not spread HATE. That is good. BUT! I get a lot of HATE comments on my amazing videos and I HATE it. Please don't start spreading HATE. Do I have to HATE you too, dear ap
@@AxxLAfriku wtf kind of drugs did you just take
@@lemo4739 All of them.
yeah wow so sad lol
What is that on his head? I hope he has a license for that animal.
This reminds me of when you read an article about someone being accused of something and the article doesnt tell you what the person did, it just assures you what they did was terrible. Being transparent and adding context to something only helps people understand why its bad, erasing does the opposite
"I have personally killed thousands of cops" - Chris Ray Gun 2021
Damn, rookie numbers
Based chris living that ACAB grindset
1:45 if it makes sense for the character to be wearing/flying a confederate flag then I don’t see why they would remove it… imagine American History X with the same censorship applied, movie suddenly has to do a lot more telling then showing, which no one enjoys
If American History X came out today it would have been dismissed as “Orange Man Bad: The move” and flopped at the box office:
To me it’s not even censoring problematic content, it’s just removing personality and character-flaws for the sake of being as blandly appealing as possible. It’s only “problematic” if you think satire is problematic or you think character flaws are problematic. Which considering you can find people complaining _villains_ are problematic seems to actually be a thing…
Why do people want to be treated with kid gloves like this? I don't understand why removing stuff that might make these assholes feel anything other than 100% happy all the time is the plan now. Why?
Excluding swaztikas and the rising sun from WW2 games literally makes them worse. I remember playing WAW and seeing those symbols and it would drive an emotional response, because those are the same symbols that perpetrated evil in the real world. It gives you a good reason to keep mowing them down.
You aim for that damn iron cross in the sniping missions. Aim small miss small boys. After crawling through a pile of bodies left by the Germans you were ready to let that rifle do some talking. Now what? We gonna remove all the implications of German hostility?
So you've already lost the fucking game. It's not even about "us vs them" to you,it's what you saw at movies and vidya. You don't deserve to vote.
@@fatkiller1000 "Us vs them"? If "them" is the soldiers in a game about WW2 who wear swaztikas or have the rising sun flag, then (a) almost all of the "them" have been dead for years and (b) one "them" killed millions of Jews, Poles, Serbs, Soviet civilians and POWs, and the other "them" attacked the US before declaring war and was responsible for enough war crimes to fill several books.
If you saw all the (non-documentary) WW2 movies and games in existence, it wouldn't come even remotely close to what someone would've seen in the war itself. If you think it does, you're either intentionally dismissive or ignorant of the atrocities in the war.
Except the rising sun is a fucking dope ass flag that predates WW2 by a few hundred years. It's basically the Japanese union flag. And now games like Forza will ban you for putting this very popular flag (And the confederate flag, i.e. the general lee) on your vehicle.
BTW, Mississippi's state flag was the confederate flag, which has recently changed, and the new flag fucking sucks.
@@JZStudiosonline and that flag wasn't even their national flag it was the confederate battle flag heck I bet you could put the CSA flag on everything and no one would notice. Though I must wonder why the rising sun is banned as isn't that still their flag? I'll never understand why people choose to go out of their way to single out Russia and Japan we aren't at war anymore and Russia have been fairly good allies to us since the end of the cold war sure there's been a few proxy wars I there but all in all no major hostility, Japan is a good friend to America which is really weird given what we did. Yes they attacked us but we dropped the sun on them twice.
Let’s face it, ‘modern sensibilities’ basically boils down to adults being told what is and isn’t appropriate. I honestly believe it is only a vocal minority that is for this type of censorship, but “uh oh confederate flag is bad so no adult should ever look upon it!” As an adult who works and buys games with his own cash, I’m tired of being told what I am and am not allowed to see in these remasters of old games. We aren’t children and these games aren’t for children so stop treating us like we can’t make our own decisions. I’m only bringing this up because, while I understand Rockstar is doing it for Apple’s money, it’s obvious why Apple enforces this ludicrous rule in the first place. Really great video, I agree 100% with what you said
Why are you afraid to say who the vocal minority is? Are you self censoring? You give the same exact meaning but you hold back heavily when everyone knows already who you are pointing your finger at. Don't be afraid of replies by the "vocal minority". If you are afraid to say who you mean, the victory is already theirs.
@@Klongu_Da_Bongu Is this "vocal minority" the SJWs by any chance?
There's just this type of person, we all remember them from being snitches and tattletales in school, who are terrified of the notion that people might come into contact with anything that might make them think with their heads in any way, because what if they don't arrive at the correct conclusions?
My question is why would a kid even if he sees a swatsika or csa flag why would that even hurt them?
Censor the apple version and leave the other ones alone. Is it that hard to rip out a few assets for that one version ffs.
It doesn't matter if it's for an agenda, political correctness or money. It deserves to be talked about regardless if someone says it's small because stuff like this always starts out small.
I missed you, Clever Hispanic Wizard
This stifles creativity and prevent people from putting out a message that can be truly meaningful. Its a shame, and we're heading to such a sanitized and uninteresting world.
We need a Simon Phoenix
agreed. why it's so important that we vote with our feet, money and time. and if we can, take it upon ourselves to make it interesting.
If private parties make a choice to remove a symbol that's their freedom of speech. You have no right to force them to keep symbols in remakes if they don't want to have them. Must be tough to think Chris Ray Gun is championing some noble cause, only to realize the people against freedom of speech here are you guys.
@@pismodude2 Dude, you don’t honestly believe what you’re saying. Putting mega corporations rights to censor over creative freedoms is laughable. Corporations aren’t making decisions based on their own personal expression. You’re not for freedom of speech when you’re for top down control of media and art. No one is forcing corporations to do anything, regular people don’t even have the power to do so. People asking art not to be censored isn’t an infringement of freedom of speech.
Never have I seen someone so stupid
What's more worrying is what it means for how GTA 6 will be written to be less "offensive". Im not surprised all of the GTA writers left after GTA 5.
I don't think it would be more woke than the other games
You didn't watch the video
@@travus111 it's the people complaining about offensive things causing it. Without them companies would have no reason to object.
@@tw-ij3kc GTA has always been controversial, there have always been people complaining about it, rockstar just used to have a sack.
@@TopShelfization The bar for what is offensive has completely changed too. But yeah, all the writers left and noone else at the company has a backbone.
Chris with that Egoraptor cut tho
I miss your stuff. Like, the non- podcast stuff. These are refreshing.
Oh, okay I get this point, about altering old art for modern senses. It's the exact same way I feel about censored versions of Huckleberry Finn. In the case of Huckleberry, the use of slurs (including a character whose name was a slur) is used in a way with anti-racist sentiments. It's used to contrast how terribly that character is treated for his race in comparison to how genuinely good of a person he is.
Edit: God, I love dealing with idiots in my reply sections. I AM AGREEING WITH CHRIS.
This is exactly why I've started buying copies of classics that I find in thrift stores. I recently found 80s copies of Huckleberry Finn and Tom Sawyer at Goodwill. No joke, I even bought an old and very nicely illustrated copy of Peter Rabbit. The way things are going, you never know...
Midas yes! Good call!
Midas saaaame, plus a few other classics. Happy collecting!
Midas Ur making it sound like Fahrenheit 451 will no longer be fictional
@@Theosake I'm agreeing with Chris', and your, opinion, that's why people are upvoting this. Read better.
I am genuinely confused and bewildered that, as a musician, you didn't even mention how much the music industry's standards have beyond destroyed the soundtracks of these three GTA titles due to music rights. It's like watching Titanic without "My Heart Will Go On" because Paramount Pictures only licensed to used the song for X many years. I was gifted San Andreas on Steam awhile ago, and my god, what a different experience it was with literally only ONE THIRD of the original soundtrack.
"Theyre bending to the woke mob...nah they just want that apple money"
Also apple "were bending to the woke mob"
Customers have opinions on controversial symbols. Companies want to maximize profits. Is there anything wrong with this? It's a new product, you can go play the original game if you want, it's easy to find even if it's old and not readily distributed through official channels. They're not ruining art, they're making new art. Everyone is within their rights, this is society functioning normally.
The main defense is always "why are you whining about a small texture change? It's not censorship!" it rarely stops there. It's also a principle, changing a years old piece of media, that in no way was made for anyone in 2020+, has been altered and changed from its original intent. I think that's wrong. When this is coming from GTA too it's just sad. I will definitely be waiting for a compilation video on what else was changed, we all know there will be more.
imagine making the main guy in San Andreas white and going "why are you whining about a small texture change? It's not censorship!"
@@TheBurgerkrieg his name is carl johnson cj from grove st
It really bugs me when people pull this shit and then gaslight you to pretend *you're* the one making something out of nothing. *BITCH you're the one "fixing" people's art.*
"First they came for the textures in a R* game, but I did not speak out" And all that.
Its a company making a tiny change and announcing it loudly knowing you and a ton of other people will yell about censorship and give them a free ride to the front page of reddit and youtube and now you've incentivized them to do the exact same thing the next time they decide to recycle some old game like RDR for profit. Congratulations, you played yourself.
I always think about the "give an inch, take a mile" saying where, even though this stuff seems completely fine in the moment to most people, down the road the goalposts are moved to where yea, you can't have a WWII game with the bad guys flag in it. lol
Can’t wait for the mere mention of ww2 Germany to be forbidden, so COD WW2 7 involves a secret modernized army of Roman centuries or something.
@@kielbasamage COD WW2: M17+ no swastika
COD 2: 16+ swastikas
To be fair not just is the german flag with swastika illigal in a lot of countrys but it kan lead to a bit more social acceptance for the iconography (slippery slope, bla bla bla).
So just replace the swastica with a X and th SS symbol with II or something like that, but i draw a line at stuff like the iron cross or "balkenkreutz" which are literally just the army markings.
@@Matx39 I've already seen people go mental over the balkenkreutz because they firmly believed it was a nazi symbol on a bundeswehr leo 2..
@@kielbasamage That sounds dope thouhg.
The slippery slope is now a slipping slide
Ah, yes. The new fourth branch of the government: silicon valley.
Honestly dead on with this. After years of this type of shit happening I've learned that in a lot of cases of this shit being pulled by companies, you’ll find the reason when you just follow the money. Them being so short sited and chasing after another 0 in their networth shouldn't get in the way of either showing people being people or depicting bad people as bad or making fun of bad people.
It’s always the money. Just look at this Dave Chapelle situation, Netflix aren’t taking his special down because it’s massively successful and brings them a lot of money.
@@AlternativeSack123 Why would Netflix take one of Chapelle's specials down?
I think all of you "follow the money" type end up missing the elephant in the room. And as uncomftorable it is for you to say it, the truth cannot remain hidden. The companies are doing this to get more money because of a certain type of person. You know the one.
@@Vesperninja his recent one "The Closer" makes a few jokes about how the left can't take jokes, and how you're not allowed to criticize certain groups.
Lefties are outraged by it. Some people are demanding it be taken down. Most people demanding this didn't even listen to the whole thing.
Netflix shouldn't remove it, but now you know why people mention the possibility that it might happen.
@@Klongu_Da_Bongu Who is this person?
This is how they ALWAYS take your freedom. With little things. Piece by piece. Like a frog who is being boiled alive, won't notice the water is hot.
Not even Halo: Master Chief Collection was safe when 343 "had" to remove Police Siren Nameplate from the game.
Its because a competitive person bitched about it on twitter. They removed the "you loot I shoot" thing in ODST too.
They call him, good take Chris, a man of the mostly level headed people.
Only mostly, as he’s killed thousands of cops but we won’t discuss that here
I'm happy to see where Chris is at today. He's no less skeptical, but he's having more fun
I wish you would do this more often. I’d watch a weekly glasses off series.
@Dean Ambrose I’ve always thought that was mostly attributable to his heavy editing. Which isn’t the case for glasses off. But I’ll watch whenever and whatever Chris posts.
I honestly wonder what on Earth he’s doing when he says to Colin he has to “get back to work”. Like, it’s not like he has long or heavily scripted/edited videos coming out frequently. This is his day job, yet it takes him a month to make a video he could do in a day or two, maybe a few at most. And they’re typically response videos to something else, so it’s not like he had to brainstorm an original topic either.
@@mrshmuga9 I’m pretty sure he also edits videos on the side. I remember him saying on a livestream that he was editing commercials for local companies or something like that
You guys should check out his podcast if you want to hear more from him. He’s very consistent with that unlike his regular videos
This kind of thing makes me a little sad, the GTA one in particular removes some clear context for the character.
I wonder if they've removed a bunch of dialogue or those hilarious radio adverts? guess we'll see.
There is no chance that the adds for rusty browns ring donuts made it into the remaster xD
@@dhoyt4377 or half the missions from the film studio will completely change as its it's literally about making porno which was huge in the 80s
Someone flirted with me once. The scars still haven't healed.
I was a person who always thought the confederate flag should stick around so we know who to avoid. It's nice to know that I'm not alone with thinking how the internet only hears what they want and fills in the blanks with the worst idea of you, even if that's kinda sad to think
Actually it's the rebel flag
I don't like the confederate states but what you said is just pure brainwashing... Like you can't tell me that that association hasn't ben placed in your head by a constant flow of media.
Keep it so I know who to be friends with (I hate other races)
@@Klongu_Da_Bongu or maybe its because people who tout the conferderate flag around tend to be racists. Go outside in a southern state and you'll see lmao.
It still is around on all the people you want to avoid. It's so weird hearing people talk about this private industry making a change using its freedom of speech as though the government forced them to do this. The government doesn't control private citizens use of this flag. People who are bad still fly it.
I think you're right this action is just to pass Apple guide line. The reality is games are a product first and "art" second. Anything and everything will be done to ensure maximum profitability regardless of original intent, morality, or politics.
"fuck what you want" ~chris ray gun. words to live by.
Unsavory characters doing unsavory things: I sleep
Unsavory characters SAYING unsavory things: real shit needs to be removed
I think you are wrong about it staying an exclusively game thing. They are already censoring classical books or down right not allowing to read them in universities and Netflix gets rid of "problematic" episodes left and right. I can totally see a near future where you can't really show certain moves or shows.
i can see in these last 10 years and increasing desire to hidde the past from the average Joe knowledge , that is evil shiet... and it is done with a purpose
Disney does it with all of their old movies, to exceptionally pedantic degrees.
Wait till they ban the book 1984 and start hosting government mandatory book burnings
@@SC-ce3vp paranoid much?
They also fucked with the Diablo 2 remake. I will never forgive these people.
Every video Chris posts has me sweating that it's his leaving video. Thank God for every day he's uploading good shit 🙌🏻
Facts. Only games get this level of watered down-ness. They get hit hard with the "it's for kids!" effect, and we've watered down WARFARE to the point of it being an "aesthetic", and not even reality. It's sickening and unethical imho, maybe that's a bit far of me, but I just cannot stand it.
I don’t know if that’s what there saying. But it is true that they like to pick on games.
Plenty of other media have been hit with similar situations. Entire episodes of beloved series like The Office have been taken out of rereleases, and there have been some instances of blurring content on rerelease even within an episode as well. Movies are another great example of this sort of greed, with flops making more money than hits for producers it's pretty clear the purpose of woke remakes. Comics are in a similarly crazy position, although remakes are much more common than rereleases similar to movies. Amazon as well as a few other publishers have bans on books similar to the one on apps by Apple. Really, this list could go on and on for similar situations within other media. There are a lot of things specific to the attack on video games, but this sort of censorship is not one of them.
@@theguyishere249 they literally removed blood from halo so they could make more money off of children, even though children were already buying it.
@@autumntaco8722 yeah but only in China. I understand what your saying. However I feel like the people who want to censorship. Want everything to be censored.
@@theguyishere249 yeah, heaven forbid people learn to manage their emotions
GTA 5 included "slurs" of every flavor and a mission where you torture a guy. The most fun part of Vice City was sniping people's heads and watching them shoot out blood. I will torrent their games now guilt free.
I like how Chris doesn't overblow this topic and act like it's the end of the world. He just has some reasonable concerns and comments to make.
@Marcus Fenix please say sike
forreal everyone on twitter is acting like a crack opened up in the earth and SJW demons escaped and started killing all the epic gamers. Like yeah it's a baffling decision and it's stupid but like who seriously gives that much of a shit lol. The zombies still get shot the same way so idc
@@titaniawallace4223 I want a warhammer 40k adaptation to this.
Ikr, good for Chris, he's not part of the reactionary gang
@@titaniawallace4223 But where is the line? Censorship like this happens over and over again with more and more games for no good reason and it’s getting increasingly worse as more game companies and developers bend the knee, even games being re-released aren’t safe anymore and are now even being proactively censored before release! What does it take here? Does half the entire game have to end up being [REDACTED] like it was developed by the SCP foundation for people to finally realise that it’s gone too far and take a stand?
You cannot give them a inch over this otherwise they will never stop doing it, it’s as simple as that and it’s been proven time and time again ever since the few isolated cases where this first started happening.
Censorship is the death of creative gaming development.
Especially with the Nazis here in Germany we have a sort of cultural mission to "never forget what happened," and this includes extensively educating people on what the Nazis did and believed. It's illegal to fly the Nazi flag in Germany - unless you are doing it for artistic reasons. It's so important not to erase these things from the cultural zeitgeist because it goes hand in hand with forgetting the atrocities that happened during these times. In the case of Tiananmen Square that is even the exact POINT of why this is done.
That’s not entirely true. German schools here brush over ww2 like it barely happened. I study and live in Germany and it’s astounding how many German teenagers have never even heard of Himmler or Hess.
Kind of seems like history is intentionally being forgotten. Because of the jnternet and record keeping technology, this would never have happened. Unless schools and institutions made the choice to stop teaching this seriously.
And yet you censoring games with swastikas... Like dude CoD world at war is about KILLING the nazis, not joining them. Same for new wolfenstein games.
"I have personally killed thousands of cops" - Chris Ray Gun
I really miss when game devs had balls, and made what they wanted without sacrificing artistic integrity for good press, or being afraid of people that were gonna complain/probably weren’t gonna buy the game anyway. Fuck all this unnecessary censorship man. P.S. great work on the video Chris; I’m glad you covered this
There is no such thing as bad press
Some devs are still like this, but they're primarily indie. The only big developer that I can remember refusing to censor was id Software refusing to remove the holograms "offensive" lines.
You know you complaining was the whole point of this change, so people like chris would make videos about it and people like you would promote it and put GTA into the news cycle for free.
@@iliakatster not really but go off
@@asdasd-ty9se Battlefront 2 says hello
I'd love a 40 second rerelease of Schindler's List
"I've killed thousands of cops-" - Chris Ray Gun 2021
"I feel like in the future we're gonna have a ww2 game that doesn't feature any nazi iconography"
BFV: *sweats nervously*
Back to the future where tiny Chris meets post-apocalyptic Chris. That's nice.
Always enjoy the glasses off videos. Hope you get better mate
I'm really looking forward to the further sanitization of art to fit modern sensibilities. The rerelease of To Kill a Mockingbird where it's just a 10 page erotica novel of a white girl and a black man having sex in the mid 20th century with no consequences is going to be lit.
"I have personally killed thousands of cops ... and it was so much fun."
-Chris "RayGun" Maldonado (Oct 28, 2021)
Oh no, they don't edit books like "to Kill a mockingbird." They would prefer to ban it.
Yeah there was one highlight where a school library banned it because it “makes people uncomfortable”
To kill a mockingbird is designed make people uncomfortable. It is meant to hurt to read, it is meant to make you angry because it is an excersize in empathy.
It is an amazing book, filled with flawed and very real characters.
Poverty stricken people fighting each other for what little dignity they have in the eyes of the rich driving an innocent “lesser” to suicide while an educated person is helpless to save the innocent man despite his greatest attempts that only serve to almost get him killed too.
Read to kill a mockingbird (or watch the movie adaptation it’s really good even if you miss some stuff in the process.) and take as long as you need to process it, ‘cause it is an excellent practice in empathy.
Sorry for the essay I just really find it to be a well thought out story and piece of commentary.
@@sleepyboysaturn1365 sorry for the late response. I actually don't mind long responses. These are some really good points.
I guess we can expect a new video every ¼ to ⅓ of a year~
7:45 I know this goes beyond the point of the video, but the point of that part of Back to the Future wasn't to imply Johnny B. Goode wasn't written by Chuck Berry. It was a very quick reference to the "artist paradox", one of the many paradoxes of time travel. It revolves around the idea of going back in time and expose an artist to art they hadn't yet created to inspire them.
History being rewritten is of grave concern. History is foundational to our modern concept of who and what we are, and where we've been. Yet we cannot help but view history with our modern perspective. In fact, that's integral to understanding history, and why adapting it to not offend whatever sensibilities we have is insidious, devastating to our growth. Rewriting history reduces our rights, reduces our agency. It is the creation of foundational lies that benefit only the liars. Rewriting history spits upon, no, diarrhea dumps all over the graves of our ancestors. And most importantly, rewriting history is always at our detriment and never for our benefit.
How can we learn what is acceptable today if we erase all history that is "bad" FUCKING RIDICULOUS
@@hustler666100 can't wait for people to desecrate civil war grave sites because "muh feefees"
"I always hate it when older pieces of art are altered from their original intent with the explicit intention to appeal to modern sensibilities."
_Looks at every Netflix adaptation there is._
Seriously when Christianity took over Rome, it decayed some of the old Greco Roman ways
What would be better is if there was an option to turn offensive imagery on and off in the settings.
Giving options? In MY propaganda?! Are you a nazi/confederate/hater?? /s
This needs to be done voluntarily by indie companies so that the mega corps can't easily lie about it and use it as an excuse. Things need to be set up so that parents can easily protect their children from these games. It needs to be censor happy parent friendly.
@@elinope4745 sooooo.. just don't have their kids play them? Cencering the past is the biggest mistake any civilization can make cuzz then it'll be washed away and we'll forget about it and it'll happen all over again censorship of art is a huge problem and we need to stop pretending it's not cuzz all in all videogames are art just like movies videos music writing paintings
Or, just take the Disney+ approach and slap a half-hearted disclaimer over the intro logo crawl and so it'll deter people who have the emotional sensitivity of a 1 year old waddling around a Spirit Halloween.
@@alexwethington7764 No, I am saying that indie companies that want to develop games in the future that have racy content should make a censored texture version or replace problematic text, etc in the same game, and offer 2 versions of the same game. One censored version for children and other sensitive people who would otherwise be pushing to censor ALL VIDEO GAMES, and a version that appeases the primary consumer base that actually pays for the industry to exist in the first place.
The reason to do this is to disarm the public lies that will be told by mega corporations that want to censor ALL VIDEO GAMES, rather than "protect the children" like they claim. Indie companies to preemptively address this very tired, old and predictable strategy that we all see them using as an excuse to censor all video games.
The reason why video games are more prone to this "disrespectful meadling" than other artforms is because many people don't see video games as art, but as a product to be marketed and sold. Due to this lack of respect as an artistic medium (which is stupid btw) people feel more okay with censoring it. That's actually the whole reason you can't have Nazis in German video games because games aren't currently protected by the statutes that allow for the depiction of Nazi imagery that is allowed in film and other artforms.
The no Nazi thing is also because of laws in countries like Germany. Any symbolgy the Nazis used is illegal, intended to stop the spread of Nazi ideology. It doesn't work, but governments tend to keep doing something that doesn't work, expecting results that they want.
Not to create a parasocial relationship with a RUclipsr, but Chris always remains the goto example in my mind of what a real Liberal is and should be like. I find myself at odds with so many self-identified Liberals who would absolutely take great issue with the Confederate flag being put into a video game, even in a negative context, and it makes me frequently question whether I'm still a Liberal. I still have Liberal ideals, I just don't agree with all of the culture warrior nonsense, or many of the 'solutions' to problems we have. So it's nice to see a CRG video that reinforces the idea that yes, I'm still a Liberal, it's just a bunch of self-identified Liberals are off their meds.
I know both Battlefield 1942 and Company of Heroes 2 have alternative symbols for the German forces. But not for the Soviets. That always felt weird to me.
And I think the German version of Wolfenstein 2 don't have _the big bad cross_ either.
Some of it has do with marketing I think. I believe Germany does not allow _the big bad cross_ in games.
Ironically COH 2 was incredibly harsh to the soviets. Showing urban myths as real - maxim gunners gunning down retreating men, soldiers not having rifles. They basically described USSR as an empire of evil (Which it was, but not so comic). But then they remove the swastika, keep a extermination camp (But barely talk about it?), and keep the hammer and sickle? That game is just all over the place campaign wise.
You look like if Leon Kennedy became an English teacher instead of a cop
oh hey you're alive. nice to see vid fr- OH SWEET PYRO UPLOADED TOO. well, I got 2 videos to watch now. well, three including yours I guess. I AM KIDDING I AM KIDDING.
Nice to come across your vid again meng. was subbed but no pop up
The lack of spine in creative companies is truly worrying when they’d so willing trade truth & artistic integrity for a little more money.
I'm sort of weirded out by Chris specifically mentioning that Phil is anti-communist. Like, is that a bad thing?
Where did he mention this?
@@omarsabir1210 8:40
Lemme just write that down real quick…
He prob mentioned it cause GTA vice city is set during the 80s. The cold war is still going on and there was a lot of red scare paranoia still hanging around.
Plus the game set in Miami, The place of settlement of a bunch of exiles from communist Cuba after the Mariel Boatlift in the 80s. So communism was maybe synonymous with poor migrants in the context of the game.
Food for thought
There's being against communism and then there's being That Guy. Phil is That Guy. Like for instance, their honestly quite simple bank job plan ("we go in, grab the manager, open the vault and get out. You're on crowd control, you drive, you crack the safe and I'm running around keeping it all moving") discussion being confusing to him absolutely did not mean it needed a pseudo-smart-actually-drooltastic "COMMUNISM BAD" routine forcibly inserted into it. It got it anyway. He's THAT sort of anti-communist.
Really mad at the removal of several things in RE4. Especially the Maze in the castle.
It DOES matter though. It’s boiling the frog. People will say it “doesn’t matter” because they’re not thinking (or they actually agree with) the grand scheme of things.
The frog boiling thing is an urban myth.
@@Qlmmb2086 yeah the frog just gets out
@@Qlmmb2086 Well, no. The thing is that the frog had a part of it's brain removed before.
_"You wouldn't take a book like To Kill A Mockingbird or a movie like Schindler's List and editing the every loving..."_
Every modern social justice warbler: That's where you're wrong, kiddo.
Schindlers List would remain intact because SJWs would use it as a weapon against ThOsE eBiL TrUmPtArDs. I remember people saying the 25th anniversary re-release of Schindlers List would be a “politically-charged shitshow” because of politicians trying to get their hands on it.
@@mat2000100 I don't know, the film might inspire somebody to secretly help trump supporters.
But we need to stop talking about trump because the powers that be might try to "Gina Carano" Chris Ray Gun.
-Leon can't flirt
Man, these """people""" are so low IQ, Leon is the definition of a charming type of Chad. Vanguard is coming up and they explicitly said they're not including German flags. It's insane.
Ah yes, LETS US NOT INCLUDE NAZI FLAGS IN A GAME ABOUT WW 2, Man I really hate this politically correct world of our.
@@TheOnly-zo4xi kek I know, like the old saying goes, if you don't teach history, you're doomed to repeat it.
I'm down for history repeating itself at this point, this world sucks lol
@@rich3083 The fact that I found a Guy/girl with an Anime pfp actually having common sense, actually gives me hope.
@@TheOnly-zo4xi KEK, yeah honestly, it's been my Achilles Heel in most discussions. But I tend to btfo people and then they either stop responding or just attack my PFP as if it invalidates any points I made
@@TheOnly-zo4xi who'd we fight in ww2? enemy team.
What sucks is that rock* is updating all 3 games for “modern sensibilities” so it’s probably going to be worse.
You can just say RockStar bro
Still going to be better than the old steam and mobile releases of those games
@@groovecrusader2715 Rock* is better. What're gonna do, edit his comment? lol
@@kalmah456 i’ll make him do it, he’s gonna become my little bitch.
san andreas but nobody's allowed to say the n word
You make some valid points there, Chris! I feel it's possible to accurately document symbols and historical events that have left a bad taste in people's mouths, without showing favoritism to such things. Documenting accurate history is just that. Documenting. Some stuff was excessively bad and unjust in history, but we don't have to scrub it from our memory. We can learn from the tragedies and horrors of history, and promise each other, "Never again".
It all seems so corporate. Like "we need to squash fears in our investors that we'll lose sales from X potential controversy."
Been watching you since highschool and i love how consistent and eloquently put your thoughts are. Thanks for videos like these Chris they always give me a new perspective on something i already had some thoughts on and influence me to see things with an even bigger scope.
Kotaku Tomorrow: “Conservative RUclipsr Chris Ray Gun Advocates for Racist Imagery in Video Games”
“I have personally killed thousands of cops...” Chris Ray Maldonado 2021
Retroactively changing videogames for modern sensibilities is an awful thing to do, no ifs or buts.
Imagine being the creator of something successful and one day someone forces you to change your work...