I would buy it if i had the money right now because its a nice watch very great quality from what ive seen of it its just that the brand Citizen built there watches from something good for the money, great value, cheap but heavy hitters so i wont be surprised if they knock it out of the park with this one but i understand when people say they wouldnt pay more than 300-500 dollars on a citizen
Yeah I wouldn’t spend that much money on a citizen watch. I would prefer to get a watch with the 0100 caliber movement (solar quartz), that watch not cheap either. Around $4850 US dollars, limited edition.
I’m sure it’s a mechanically sound and beautifully finished … but it looks so uninspired for 9500CAD 😕 Especially with the competition around that price range.
Rolex, Grand Seiko and other brands have decades of experience with mechanical movements, but for Citizen it is the first high level movement. There is a possibility it has some areas of improvements and its reliability is unknown..Unfortunately, this video gave no inside knowledge about the movement: Was it made by Citizen or is it a highly refinished movement from a movement supplier like ETA or Silita. Also, the degree of finishing was not discussed. Another aspect is the service of the next decades: If this watch doesn't work for Citizen, they may abundon this line in the future.
Well it won't be eta or selita as they're swiss movements. Citizen have made automatic/mechanical watches since they were formed. Quartz only became an option in the 70s.
Caliber 0210 seems to be a Miyota (also owned by Citizen) movement (28.8k vph; 4 Hz). Some of the higher-end Bulova watches with Selita 200 (also 28.8k vph; 4 Hz) movements are under $2000. There are Grand Seiko watches with 36k vph movements that are cheaper and more elegant than this Citizen.
The movement specs aren’t even that great. Compare the movement to something in a Tudor, which is cosc certified, with a longer power reserve for half the money. This makes sense at $2000-$3000 tops, not $10,000! That’s laughable.
It is pretty nice and maybe it is accurate even without certification, but I do think it’s left field for Citizen. I also think it’s part of the fancy textured dial trend that Grand Seiko and Orient Star enjoy, but I am not big on the textured dials.
@@FranklyOnTime the thing is with the grand seiko, I can see how they can justify their price premium, when they have the spring drive movement, and have features like a power reserve indicator. I understand watches are not just spec sheets to compare, but I do feel if you are trying to move into the luxury market, you need to offer something that delivers either a significantly superior movement for the money, or a real standout when it comes to design. This citizen does neither.
This movement finishing is better in every way. You can just see it. Power reserve and cosc certification have nearly no relevance to the quality or price. High horology brands don't usually have cosc or even high power reserves. Look at Breguet, Journe, etc... Tudor is a mass produced, overpriced, machine made watch, and there is no way you can get finishing like this for 3,000.
Do you think the new Citizen Caliber 0210 is worth the money?
Citizen, The CITIZEN are high quality watches that compete in the level of Grand Seiko. They use expensive materials such as gold and platinum.
The Japanese brands seem really into the fancy textured dials now as well.
I was astonished to see Citizen worth that much. That watch up here in Canada is 9500 dollars. Before taxes.
I think they and Shinola really want to go upmarket.
@@FranklyOnTime Never heard of that brand but nice watches. thx
I’d take an omega moonwatch or two tudors over this 😅
It is an awesome watch. I want the white one myself, but, yea, the price segment here is a competitive one.
I would buy it if i had the money right now because its a nice watch very great quality from what ive seen of it its just that the brand Citizen built there watches from something good for the money, great value, cheap but heavy hitters so i wont be surprised if they knock it out of the park with this one but i understand when people say they wouldnt pay more than 300-500 dollars on a citizen
Good point. They bring value like no one else, but I do like seeing the experimentation with something higher end. Like seeing watch brands evolve.
@FranklyOnTime indeed people should give a watch like this a chance because that's how every watch brand starts
When it was initially released it was $6,000. Not sure why it bumped up so much. I would rather get a Cartier for the money.
Interesting! I feel like $6kish is the right level for this. Feels like too much of a jump up from their other The Citizen watches.
Yeah I wouldn’t spend that much money on a citizen watch. I would prefer to get a watch with the 0100 caliber movement (solar quartz), that watch not cheap either. Around $4850 US dollars, limited edition.
Thanks for your comment. I agree. Maybe they should have something more around 6k for a while first before stretching to these levels.
I’m sure it’s a mechanically sound and beautifully finished … but it looks so uninspired for 9500CAD 😕
Especially with the competition around that price range.
Definitely think it’s priced too high, and I’m not a fan of the fancy textured dials that are big with Japanese dials atm.
Rolex, Grand Seiko and other brands have decades of experience with mechanical movements, but for Citizen it is the first high level movement. There is a possibility it has some areas of improvements and its reliability is unknown..Unfortunately, this video gave no inside knowledge about the movement: Was it made by Citizen or is it a highly refinished movement from a movement supplier like ETA or Silita. Also, the degree of finishing was not discussed. Another aspect is the service of the next decades: If this watch doesn't work for Citizen, they may abundon this line in the future.
Well it won't be eta or selita as they're swiss movements. Citizen have made automatic/mechanical watches since they were formed. Quartz only became an option in the 70s.
Caliber 0210 seems to be a Miyota (also owned by Citizen) movement (28.8k vph; 4 Hz). Some of the higher-end Bulova watches with Selita 200 (also 28.8k vph; 4 Hz) movements are under $2000. There are Grand Seiko watches with 36k vph movements that are cheaper and more elegant than this Citizen.
The movement specs aren’t even that great. Compare the movement to something in a Tudor, which is cosc certified, with a longer power reserve for half the money. This makes sense at $2000-$3000 tops, not $10,000! That’s laughable.
It is pretty nice and maybe it is accurate even without certification, but I do think it’s left field for Citizen. I also think it’s part of the fancy textured dial trend that Grand Seiko and Orient Star enjoy, but I am not big on the textured dials.
@@FranklyOnTime the thing is with the grand seiko, I can see how they can justify their price premium, when they have the spring drive movement, and have features like a power reserve indicator. I understand watches are not just spec sheets to compare, but I do feel if you are trying to move into the luxury market, you need to offer something that delivers either a significantly superior movement for the money, or a real standout when it comes to design. This citizen does neither.
This movement finishing is better in every way. You can just see it. Power reserve and cosc certification have nearly no relevance to the quality or price. High horology brands don't usually have cosc or even high power reserves. Look at Breguet, Journe, etc... Tudor is a mass produced, overpriced, machine made watch, and there is no way you can get finishing like this for 3,000.
@@adadadatt power reserve and accuracy have no relevance……. Yeah ok.
@uncleben4536 They absolutely have relevance to the consumer but just not necessarily in relation to price as stated.
I would not spend more that 300 bucks for a citizen watch