I actually fell asleep listening to this as I’ve come down with a really bad cold and I swear, your voice can lull someone to sleep. Other than that, that was some good lore!
I'm convinced both Odyn and Arthas ripped off the Kyrians when they created the val'kyr. Odyn traded his eye to look into the Shadowlands. Arthas used the Helm of Domination, an artifact stolen from the Shadowlands.
@@erikho6936 The Forge of Domination (or Domination Forge) is a runeforge located somewhere within Torghast. Torghast, Tower of the Damned is an infinite dungeon in World of Warcraft: Shadowlands that can be played by 1 to up to 5 players. It sits at the center of the Maw. -gamepedia
@@erikho6936 IKR, the retcons are ridiculous. And somehow Maldraxus inspired the scourge's architecture despite the fact that they actually stole their architecture from the nerubians.
Even tho I stopped playing wow long ago at the end of wotlk, I still enjoy following the story. How ever, the lore at this point seems messed up to say the least. Mix of all kinds of regular mythology from all over the world, space ships and world travel, dimensions and time travel. Such a have it all buffé.
Ya. And they are the reason for the undead being a playable race. It's crazy huh? The val'kyr are one of my favorite parts of lore along with the aspects
0:26 Chronicle says that the Shadowlands existed ever since mortals came to be in the physical universe, however before the titans ordered each planet, they were only inhabited by elementals. Are elementals considered mortals? Or were there some other races living along with them that can be called so?
I think that since elementals are living magic that when they die they go to the shadowlands to be the elemental like stuff we see there like the owls for the kyrians and the equivalent servants that the covenant realms have that work how elementals work in the living realm.
@@Bigbootyboi420 I don't think that's the case because the keepers imprisoned the elemental Lords and their servants (inside the 4 elemental planes) instead of just killing them because their spirits are bound to Azeroth, if their corporeal form is destroyed they would simply manifest again in time.
@@AlexKayzProductions that's also how the elementals creatures in the shadowlands work which is why I think there is a connection and we haven't seen an elemental lord who died in there realm be reborn as what it was named but its power gets redistributed
Sylvanas ended up blackmailing the blood elves, her (former) people, into investing heavily in a costly war with the Lich King right when they were in desperate need to recover after the Sunwell Incident. I honestly have no idea what reason Sylvanas would end up in the Maw for. 🤷♂️
Indeed. While her quest for vengeance may be justified, she did some messed up things to even get there. Pacts with the Burning Legion, mind control, betrayal, enslavement... and that's just in Warcraft 3, before they even joined the Horde.
Yeah, and even before she died, she would describe her soldiers as arrows in a quiver, and had no issues sending them to do if it benefited her hand design. Arthas didn't raise her just out spite. She was cold and cunning, her deaths have only amplified that.
I still like the idea the souls the Arbiter would truly desire to condemn to the Maw would be those who have tried to subvert death; those who attempt to break the cycle of the Shadowlands; those who have torn other's souls back to the world of the living. And especially those who have died, and yet are able to return themselves: Us.
I suppose the reasoning there could be so long as they're connected to the Lich King, then they could be raised as death knights. I couldn't see Sylvanas not raising a fresh crop of death Knights if it was within her ability to do so. Unless she'd fear them breaking away from her as they did Arthas.
Hey Nobbel, I was here wondering. The Lich King and Yogg-Saron had some kind of a beef, right? Then Sylvannas - who was a mortal enemy of the Lich King, commits suicide on a saronite spike, and is shown visions of an afterlife of eternal torment. From that moment on, all that she did has led her to the pact with the "Jailer" and the destruction of the Helm of Domination -- which also means to a certain degree the destruction of the "entity" of Lich King itself. Wouldn't it be one of Yogg-Saron's greatest wishes to see the destruction of one of his greatest enemies - and possibly the only force in Azeroth capable of keeping Y.S's influence at bay. It seems Sylvannas's actions are working very much to Yogg-Saron's best interests (even if she doesn't know it). Perhaps we're going to come back from Shadowlands after who knows how much time only to find Yogg-Saron reawakened and in control of much of Northrend. Even other old gods might possibly be reawakened after him. After all, Yogg-Saron isn't the god of death of the mortal races of Azeroth, but he might very well be the god of death of the Old Gods themselves, with the power to bring them back from Ny'alotha or wherever they end up going after we beat the s* out of them.
20:55 despite being muted I could hear that sequence from the trailer it was so memorable. The building music, the shriek and bang of the sky. So, so good.
This video kind of answers its own question in that , Valkyr are just some sort of "knock-off" Kyrians ?? and Halls of valor is just somewhere in between azeroth sky and shadowlands , Valkyr just snatch vrykul souls before Kyrians get to them lol
So what are the val'kyr allied with Sylvanas getting? Like why are they working together. It feels like a lot of missing pieces with all these bargains that Sylvanas has made with variopus characters.
When exactly did Sylvanas experience a peaceful afterlife... she was killed by Arthas and raised right away, i don't think we actually see her dying... her soul is torn from her dying body, not dead body.
It's in Arthas: Rise of the Lich King. It talks about her experiencing death, and then having her spirit torn and forced back, twisted and fueled by hate.
Are the machinima scenes that aren't from the game made directly for Nobbel? or are there full machinima one could watch of this? I've been wondering for a while, especially with the Helya/Dragonflight scenes. (Love you Nobbel, but I'd watch that too.)
I finished the vol'jin bfa quests and talked to one of the val'kyr and she sed they want revenge and that I should pick the right side when the time comes.
Btw... the LK is the greatest plagiarist in all of Azeroth, isn't he?! He blatantly copied stuff from Bastion (the Val'kyr), Maldraxxus (DK's, scourge structures, lich/necromancer powers), Revendreth (the San'layn, scourge's gargoyles), and the Maw (ICC architecture, LK's armor, etc). Only Ardenweald/Night Fae seems to have escaped his plagiarism; or, at least, I can't recall anything related to the LK or the scourge that seems slightly related to that realm... although I suspect he was trying to achieve something in that regards with Valithria Dreamwalker.
well we have to remember that even the LK and the scourge were created by the burning legion, originally. there are speculations and theories, the burnign legion might have had a contection to the shadowlands at certain points of the wow timeline. afterall, they can serve as a source of power.
The Chronicle described Titans being "born" as worlds coming to life, rivers running along them and what-not, but from what we've seen (Sargeras) this is simply not true. More likely their spirit leaving doesn't affect the planet, aside from possibly their Arcane life-blood leaving with them. The planet Argus was still there (messed up though it was) after the titan Argus was killed off. As for the sword, I don't think there's much that CAN be done. Now it's just a huge hunk of metal stuck in the ground, most harmless, maybe something along the lines of Punished Snake?
@Thor Um... Because we saw Sargeras in the flesh at the end of that very same raid. Did he look like a humanoid planet? Was he covered in mountains and volcanoes? Did he have an atmosphere? :D About Argus, what I'm saying is that a titan spirit dying doesn't seem to blow up the planet or anything, so one being properly born shouldn't either.
No, there is no litch king now, and Bolivar was the litch king up to Shadowlands. He's just saying with the Valkyr she's doing to other poor souls what was done to her essentially
Too bad that the story is better than the game. I'll listen to the Greatest Bard of all time while adventuring in Tamriel. Be well in Azeroth, happy journeys.
The Valkyr serve the Jailer who in turn works for himself imo. If anyone is going to take control of the shadowlands it’ll be him not Sylvanas. ...unless she has yet another plan.
lol Im glad Im not the only one. I dare to say my english skills are pretty good, but regardless I find it kinda hard to follow through with the accent and the way the guy speaks, although I do love his content :D
My Gods, this is so repetitive and boring. It's like most of the original creators aren't at blizzard anymore.... Regardless, good work Nobbel87 with what you had to work with
Great content but im not sure about the way you tell the story, im not sure what your trying to do with your voice , that accent or whatever it is its kind of bad
Im so tired of her and all the talk of her power its all shit power becuse if up to us she dies anyway and as long as she dose that im going to like Shadowlands.
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I actually fell asleep listening to this as I’ve come down with a really bad cold and I swear, your voice can lull someone to sleep. Other than that, that was some good lore!
Funny you should mention his lulling voice. :D
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I'm convinced both Odyn and Arthas ripped off the Kyrians when they created the val'kyr. Odyn traded his eye to look into the Shadowlands. Arthas used the Helm of Domination, an artifact stolen from the Shadowlands.
Wait, the helm is now a item of the Shadowlands? God damn it, I remember the time where it was forged by Kil'jaden himself
Erik Ho It was acquired by KJ, possibly even put the order in for its creation but the helm is forged and from the shadowlands
@@erikho6936 The Forge of Domination (or Domination Forge) is a runeforge located somewhere within Torghast. Torghast, Tower of the Damned is an infinite dungeon in World of Warcraft: Shadowlands that can be played by 1 to up to 5 players. It sits at the center of the Maw.
-gamepedia
@@erikho6936 IKR, the retcons are ridiculous. And somehow Maldraxus inspired the scourge's architecture despite the fact that they actually stole their architecture from the nerubians.
Even tho I stopped playing wow long ago at the end of wotlk, I still enjoy following the story.
How ever, the lore at this point seems messed up to say the least.
Mix of all kinds of regular mythology from all over the world, space ships and world travel, dimensions and time travel.
Such a have it all buffé.
It’s always been like this though lol space travel was introduced with TBC and even before that in the lore with the Eredar and Draenei
Buffet.
It’s also all normal for WoW since before you stopped playing, lol.
I just realized Sylvanas has been using Val'kyr for life support.
Ya. And they are the reason for the undead being a playable race. It's crazy huh? The val'kyr are one of my favorite parts of lore along with the aspects
Lore of the wing women!
0:26 Chronicle says that the Shadowlands existed ever since mortals came to be in the physical universe, however before the titans ordered each planet, they were only inhabited by elementals. Are elementals considered mortals? Or were there some other races living along with them that can be called so?
I mean, Elementals are magical beings that dont really posses physical body, they just use the surrounding nature to morph themselves into existence
I think that since elementals are living magic that when they die they go to the shadowlands to be the elemental like stuff we see there like the owls for the kyrians and the equivalent servants that the covenant realms have that work how elementals work in the living realm.
@@Bigbootyboi420 I don't think that's the case because the keepers imprisoned the elemental Lords and their servants (inside the 4 elemental planes) instead of just killing them because their spirits are bound to Azeroth, if their corporeal form is destroyed they would simply manifest again in time.
@@AlexKayzProductions that's also how the elementals creatures in the shadowlands work which is why I think there is a connection and we haven't seen an elemental lord who died in there realm be reborn as what it was named but its power gets redistributed
lol the titans are the "mortals" here lol, their spirits go to zereth mortis lol
Sylvanas ended up blackmailing the blood elves, her (former) people, into investing heavily in a costly war with the Lich King right when they were in desperate need to recover after the Sunwell Incident. I honestly have no idea what reason Sylvanas would end up in the Maw for. 🤷♂️
Indeed. While her quest for vengeance may be justified, she did some messed up things to even get there. Pacts with the Burning Legion, mind control, betrayal, enslavement... and that's just in Warcraft 3, before they even joined the Horde.
Yeah, and even before she died, she would describe her soldiers as arrows in a quiver, and had no issues sending them to do if it benefited her hand design. Arthas didn't raise her just out spite. She was cold and cunning, her deaths have only amplified that.
What would you be expecting at this point? The story is just an excuse to sketch out the next expansion.
You're talking bullshit.
Happy Holidays Nobbel and followers!
The Val'kyr we see at the Maw, surrounding Sylvanas, are probably the ones who sacrificed themselves and took her place when she died those two times.
WE NOW KNOW THEY ON THE BLOCC IN TORGHAST
I still like the idea the souls the Arbiter would truly desire to condemn to the Maw would be those who have tried to subvert death; those who attempt to break the cycle of the Shadowlands; those who have torn other's souls back to the world of the living. And especially those who have died, and yet are able to return themselves: Us.
4:18 I think you mean "in his eye"
Inb4 half of this stuff is retconned in shadowlands.
There aren't much to change so why did they need to retcon it?
thank you Nobbel, very nice
worgen can't be raised by the val'kyr but they become death knights
We dont point that out here-
I suppose the reasoning there could be so long as they're connected to the Lich King, then they could be raised as death knights.
I couldn't see Sylvanas not raising a fresh crop of death Knights if it was within her ability to do so. Unless she'd fear them breaking away from her as they did Arthas.
Hey Nobbel, I was here wondering. The Lich King and Yogg-Saron had some kind of a beef, right? Then Sylvannas - who was a mortal enemy of the Lich King, commits suicide on a saronite spike, and is shown visions of an afterlife of eternal torment. From that moment on, all that she did has led her to the pact with the "Jailer" and the destruction of the Helm of Domination -- which also means to a certain degree the destruction of the "entity" of Lich King itself. Wouldn't it be one of Yogg-Saron's greatest wishes to see the destruction of one of his greatest enemies - and possibly the only force in Azeroth capable of keeping Y.S's influence at bay. It seems Sylvannas's actions are working very much to Yogg-Saron's best interests (even if she doesn't know it). Perhaps we're going to come back from Shadowlands after who knows how much time only to find Yogg-Saron reawakened and in control of much of Northrend. Even other old gods might possibly be reawakened after him. After all, Yogg-Saron isn't the god of death of the mortal races of Azeroth, but he might very well be the god of death of the Old Gods themselves, with the power to bring them back from Ny'alotha or wherever they end up going after we beat the s* out of them.
King Yenma is the Arbiter?...... seems legit.
So glad someone caught that
Somebody wish me back! I'm naked infront of him and he keeps talking about his ex-wife!
Would have preferred Shiki Eiki Yamaxanadu but I'll take it.
@@Finish303 You mean he's not bragging about his mahogany desk for once?
@@Waauugh Mahogany
15:45 this is hilarious and so ridiculously offensive in English (as opposed to American English). Great voice acting. Garrosh did nothing wrong.
You are a moron
20:55 despite being muted I could hear that sequence from the trailer it was so memorable. The building music, the shriek and bang of the sky. So, so good.
This video kind of answers its own question in that , Valkyr are just some sort of "knock-off" Kyrians ?? and Halls of valor is just somewhere in between azeroth sky and shadowlands , Valkyr just snatch vrykul souls before Kyrians get to them lol
So what are the val'kyr allied with Sylvanas getting? Like why are they working together. It feels like a lot of missing pieces with all these bargains that Sylvanas has made with variopus characters.
1:51 Mahogany.
You are so great Nobel!
20:55 despite being muted I could hear that sequence from the trailer it was so memorable. The building music, the shriek and bang of the sky.
What if the dark valkyr that stand besides Sylvanas in front of the Jailer are the ones that died?
THEY IS ON THA BLOCC
Was Sylvanas NerZhul's plan all along?
I could have sworn that the Val'kyr in the short story did say they chosen to serve the Lichking. It is the Bolvar LK they wanted freedom from.
she is gunna end up becoming mortal and her mind wiped of all her undead deeds
if worgens are immune of reserection how can we become worgen death knigths?
Pretty sure death knight worgen isn't from Glineas
I don't think they're immune to resurrection. I think they're specifically immune to being resurrected by the plague of undeath.
Where do Val'kyr go when they die?
VAHALLA!
Happy Holidays nerd
When exactly did Sylvanas experience a peaceful afterlife... she was killed by Arthas and raised right away, i don't think we actually see her dying... her soul is torn from her dying body, not dead body.
It's in Arthas: Rise of the Lich King. It talks about her experiencing death, and then having her spirit torn and forced back, twisted and fueled by hate.
Oh hey lookie what i stumbled apon
The Spirit Healers that brings you back to life are blizz employees making sure paying subscribers are being dragged back in :)
Are the machinima scenes that aren't from the game made directly for Nobbel? or are there full machinima one could watch of this? I've been wondering for a while, especially with the Helya/Dragonflight scenes. (Love you Nobbel, but I'd watch that too.)
Where did the clips of Helya and Odin arguing come from? I've never seen them in-game
Had khallys make those for my story of odyn and helya: ruclips.net/video/lJv8-tQf_B8/видео.html
No mention of the battle pet Val'kyr!?!?
good video
Where can you find a Vrykul irl?
Are the Val'kyr(s) Paragons of Bastion?
This man has only 590 k, he must have 10,000 k(10 milion) , For what he does 😕
this aged like fine wine
I know this will never happen, but i would be the happiest person in the world if Arthas kills Sylvanas, again, this time for good in Shadowlands XD
To tell all this lore, You'd have to write down everything now with shadowlands.
Love your vids man, could you make a vid on King trollbane as he was one of the horse men, but in bfa he was more human? (or am I mistaken)
I finished the vol'jin bfa quests and talked to one of the val'kyr and she sed they want revenge and that I should pick the right side when the time comes.
If you're talking about Eyir I remember nothing of the sort. Or is this a PTR thing?
@@RileyRivalle2 yes the eyir yest but not eyir the other val'kyrs on the way out say they want revenge on sylvanas for what she did.
Oh, I see... Yeah, that's understandable.
New order hall for Paladins is Skyhold :)
wut? Why would the warrior order hall become a new order hall for paladins?
Btw... the LK is the greatest plagiarist in all of Azeroth, isn't he?! He blatantly copied stuff from Bastion (the Val'kyr), Maldraxxus (DK's, scourge structures, lich/necromancer powers), Revendreth (the San'layn, scourge's gargoyles), and the Maw (ICC architecture, LK's armor, etc). Only Ardenweald/Night Fae seems to have escaped his plagiarism; or, at least, I can't recall anything related to the LK or the scourge that seems slightly related to that realm... although I suspect he was trying to achieve something in that regards with Valithria Dreamwalker.
well we have to remember that even the LK and the scourge were created by the burning legion, originally. there are speculations and theories, the burnign legion might have had a contection to the shadowlands at certain points of the wow timeline. afterall, they can serve as a source of power.
The first val'kyrs we encounter are not with the Lich king...they greet us every time a player dies.
SO VALKYR ARE JUST KNOCK OFF KYRIANS X:D
Interesting.
So we are going to do nothing about removing the sword in Azeroth and just go to some other world
Nothing to see here. It's just swamp gas refracting off of Draenor.
@@ZZZ-zer ya'd think the sword of a titan would have woke her already lol
The Chronicle described Titans being "born" as worlds coming to life, rivers running along them and what-not, but from what we've seen (Sargeras) this is simply not true. More likely their spirit leaving doesn't affect the planet, aside from possibly their Arcane life-blood leaving with them. The planet Argus was still there (messed up though it was) after the titan Argus was killed off.
As for the sword, I don't think there's much that CAN be done. Now it's just a huge hunk of metal stuck in the ground, most harmless, maybe something along the lines of Punished Snake?
@Thor
Um... Because we saw Sargeras in the flesh at the end of that very same raid. Did he look like a humanoid planet? Was he covered in mountains and volcanoes? Did he have an atmosphere? :D About Argus, what I'm saying is that a titan spirit dying doesn't seem to blow up the planet or anything, so one being properly born shouldn't either.
Damn you King yemma
15:49 click over and over
Posted 45 seconds ago?!
ok.
Wait.. so Sylvanas is the Lich Queen now? Oh God I have to stop watching those videos before I lose it and go back to playing myself ..
No, there is no litch king now, and Bolivar was the litch king up to Shadowlands. He's just saying with the Valkyr she's doing to other poor souls what was done to her essentially
we also know those "MAWSWORN" are not the "first generation" rofl
Do some asmr lore
King Yemma!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Too bad that the story is better than the game. I'll listen to the Greatest Bard of all time while adventuring in Tamriel. Be well in Azeroth, happy journeys.
Game over man game over
The Valkyr serve the Jailer who in turn works for himself imo. If anyone is going to take control of the shadowlands it’ll be him not Sylvanas.
...unless she has yet another plan.
As an English as second language person at the states, these contents sound super interesting but the accent makes it so difficult to understand.....
lol Im glad Im not the only one. I dare to say my english skills are pretty good, but regardless I find it kinda hard to follow through with the accent and the way the guy speaks, although I do love his content :D
Valk’yr are hot
What a voice
and then you find out the jailor is a void lord. either that or this expansion is a complete filler arc. as was warlords of draenor tbc
1st comment ou yeahh babyyyyyy
Woah im early
My Gods, this is so repetitive and boring. It's like most of the original creators aren't at blizzard anymore....
Regardless, good work Nobbel87 with what you had to work with
Great content but im not sure about the way you tell the story, im not sure what your trying to do with your voice , that accent or whatever it is its kind of bad
Im so tired of her and all the talk of her power its all shit power becuse if up to us she dies anyway and as long as she dose that im going to like Shadowlands.
can u please pronounce WoW correctly
Informative, but the way you read all that stuff is somewhat annoying.
For the Banshee Queen!