2 Track Railway Crossing To Be No Train Horn Zone & Railroad Crossing Abandonment 2019! Ohio Trains
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- Опубликовано: 5 июн 2019
- Shocking Development! Busy railroad crossing being converted to no train horn zone! Railroad crossing to be abandoned and pedestrian railroad crossing to be relocated next to the main crossing. Fences will be installed along the CSX main line and the crossing will be quad style crossing gates. Signs will also say no train horn zone. The Albion Avenue railroad crossing will close as part of this project. CSX owns this line and Norfolk Southern shares it. It is primarily directional running tracks with most trains going north while a nearby NS line runs mostly south bound trains. This is Glendale, Ohio which is a small city just north of Cincinnati. Amtrak also uses this line. 8-28-17 is when Glendale Village Council approved the ordinance to create the quiet zone. I made a video back then about this after I talked to the mayor. Railfans are not happy about this at all. Photography will be ruined with the fences and of course, what is a train without a horn? I will still eat at Cock N Bull restaurant on the 2nd floor balcony at my favorite table next to the tracks but will the railfans still flock to this location? This video was filmed June 3, 2019 and I included all the trains that I saw that day except for one. The last day for train horns is January 10, 2020. Thanks for watching! Please rate, comment and SUBSCRIBE TO JAWTOOTH!!
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We had a sub division near me that built right next to a busy railroad. The locals wanted a no horn zone. The railroad calculated the cost, and advised the folks it would be done, as soon as the folks coughed up the money. For some reason, they are no longer complaining.
What cost? All the engineer has to do is not blow the horn. We're one of the very few countries in the world which still have trains blasting horns at every intersection. It's well past time to end this nuisance.
Guys, IT'S THE FREAKING LAW!!!!
I’m not a fan of no horn zones!!! I would rather listen to train horns all day than traffic noise! Great video!!
Two teenagers were killed in my area in a NO WHISTLE ZONE, at least the neighbors had a quiet day until the sirens of the first responders. Next they will say they don't want to hear fire truck horns and sirens or police cars and ambulance calls?? Quiet Zone!!
@@mikebrabant4170 There are many places in Ohio where they already don't sound the emergency sirens at night. People are softer and more selfish than ever before and it's saddening and sickening.
Hakeem Sd70M it is too bad that communities put their comfort above the safety of others. People will be killed or hurt but no one will care. We live in a very selfish world these days.
I have to mute out the (annoying) train horns, with an equalizer, so my wife (who goes to bed early) won't be disturbed by the (annoying) rain horns; I don't watch train videos to hear (annoying) train horns, I watch them to see American rains, as I can't afford to travel to the US, much as I would love to; my wife and son would not.. We live a little distance away from 2 grade crossings and that's enough!
@@nkpltrr Right you are. People these days seem to seldom think of others in situations like this. A sign of the times, I suppose. Very sad times that is.
Well, we came here and built our house right next to the railroad tracks, now we want the trains to be very quiet or just go somewhere else. lol
Someone did that near here. They bought a house right by one of the longest running dirt race tracks in the state. Then they tried to have it shut down due to noise and dust!! STUPID, STUPID, PEOPLE!!
Maybe it's just me, but a no horn zone is asking for trouble. Thanks Brian.
Thank you so much for sharing enjoy watching hopefully you have an awesome day :-) peace out
Hey jawtooth very nice train video sir from NS & CSX good catches and sorry there doin a no horn zone it sucks trust me it's better to hear their horn, keep up the great work jawtooth
15:00 - Hmm ... liner/tamper and a ballast plow/regulator - good catch, Jaw Tooth!
These machines replaced a gang of at least 20 men - I suppose some one will complain about that. I have been involved in 'old style' track maintenance and current track maintenance, and I know which I prefer!
Wow that was a lot of trains. Great video. They never had those no train horn zones in my day. Thanks for all your efforts. You do a great job. 👍👍👍❤️
great work as always Jawtooth.
It is stupid that people have to have that crossing be a no train horn zone! Train horns help warn incoming traffic about the train and train horn just sounds beautiful!
Flagstaff, AZ has a major BNSF trunk line running through it. Train horns were a major annoyance. They put a no horn program in place in 2009 making life a little more pleasant. Two crossings out of the downtown area have horns right at the crossings that are highly audible to traffic but the sound doesn't travel for miles.
Looks like the area's doing well... busy busy busy 👍👍👍
A very good suggestion I have for them since the Pedestrian Crossing is being removed. Is to install an overhead walkway across the tracks with a spiral stairway at each end of it. I have seen several of them here in Canada.
No train horn zones are DANGEROUS
i 100% agree with you.
No they're not. Rather, idiots put themselves in danger.
All it will take is one accident and lawsuit they'll rip up every Crossing they can they own the right to they'll can make a driver Drive 20 miles to get over or around there track and that's their right
Ed Carl rather ripped up than have a dumbass fence in the way
I agree 100%
Excellent video footage mate
Informative and Entertaining as Always. Thank you.
Glad you enjoyed it! They recently finished that no train horn zone and just put up new fences also.
Missed this chasing Puffins with the Mrs !!! Sad day Brian -when one of your faves basically becomes unusable ?! Looked a real good spot for fanning and general viewing . No horn -might as well not bother then ! Another loss -Another bad day ! Keep them coming Jawtooth !!
Man....what's a train without a horn! That sucks dude 😒😒 nice video as usual bud!
The best part of watching a train is hearing the horn blow. Like your videos.😎
Thanks for sharing
Any engineer that comes thru before the no train horn goes into effect should just go crazy blasting their horns
Its what I would do while giving the finger out the window to anybody who dont like it
Some of them do just that!! lmao
How to get fucking fired
@@ironmatic1 Many engineers blast the horn multiple times through Glendale to salute the railfans. They still got their jobs.
There's a no-horn crossing on the S-line here at Lake Weir Ave and Hwy 441in Ocala. I hate it. 😠 There was one day last fall when I went by there just in time to see some hotshot go roaring through there, HORN BLARING. There were no obvious track hazards. Everyone was stopped behind the gates like good little boys and girls. And I know there's a no-horn sign along the tracks. Either this guy wasn't paying attention or he just didn't give a crap. 😂😂
super great video bro
That sucks! I love going there and now it won`t be the same, Damn yuppies
And I've always gotten the excitement of going over the tracks with a friend and seeing a green signal and sometimes an approaching headlight at the same time. The horn gave me goose bumps when we waited at the crossing. I will never vote for a No Horn Zone
Great video. Pity about the lack of horns lol :) 👍🏻
The second Crossing is the same thing like Carolina Avenue in Grover NC
Excellent video!!!
Great video jaw tooth 👍🏻🇬🇧
Y’know-back in the day, as far as I can remember, there were never any ‘no train horn’ zones. Seems pretty damned stupid to me...there will be more gate crashers and distracted drivers, Im sure!
How idiotic !
Going to be more deaths now !
What a great shot! Six [CSX] supervisors and workers standing around with their hands in their pockets.
Keep in mind that this video shows trains using the crossing a majority of the time, and that there isn't much for track workers to do when a train goes by besides stay out of the way...
It's awesome watching the signals change green to red when trains pass them.
I love that also. I always try to get that where possible
No Train Horn Zones are a joke. People will complain about anything. See what happens when someone gets killed after it becomes a No Horn Zone. Great video though. Thanks for sharing.
Downtown Springfield is a No Horn zone. I used to sit in a parking lot by the tracks and eat lunch when I was in the area. Don't know how many people I saw with ear buds almost get squashed.
I'm guessing CSX and NS share that line. Great video Mr Tooth. Lol.
Nice Live action, JT!!! You mentioned the CEO of CSX wanting to cut costs on a prior video. I'd help him out by sending him a still shot at 26:10. Must be nice to be able to shoot the breeze with hands in pocket for a good part of the day, and get paid, lolzzzzzzzzz
I’m definitely getting a train horn on my truck, ima sit at Glendale all day whenever a train passes ima blow it, they can’t do anything about it either... ask me to leave? Nope... I’ll go to the other side and do it, they will hate me but I will love every minute of it.
I wish people who live by train tracks can deal with the horns!! Someone might ignore the crossing and get hit by a train!
Same thing I thought
@@marialittle128 Every railfan out there hates quiet zones even me
@@LiamManley2003 me to it takes away the safety and fun
@@marialittle128 The government needs to ban the no horn zones for good.
@@LiamManley2003 I agree with you
great video 😃😀
Wel Brian thanks for this amazing nice video.thanks.greetz:Peerke.
Great vid JT FEC in FT. Lauderdale just went no horn it took months, signs new paper and radio telling soon no horns .
keep up the awesome vids. JT the railfan video man c u soon.
mow tinker toys. 1st time i have seen water on a sweeper.. What model steam
engine was that csx loco. lol
The ES44 on the second train does not have a K5HL! And nice video! Keep it up!
Excellent Video Jaw Tooth, I gotta say if the horns go silent in your area you won't hear any trains that's coming around you otherwise it's gonna be too hard to know if it's a train coming but you'll hear the sound of the train engine if it's close to you.
Yes, the area is now quiet. No more train horns here. Sometimes the trains will come around the curve and the only warning is the crossing gates so if your camera isn't out and ready you will miss filming the train. I don't like it so I don't film here as much as I used to. I miss the horns
Me too, it's like when you're at the BNSF Racetrack in Downers Grove, IL in the Midwest you'll hear no train horns there like BNSF Trains blow the horn to let them know he's going by while metra is stopped in front of the crossing at the station for the people to get off the train by Surprise.
What town in Ohio is this JT? This would be a great location to catch some videos. Thanks for sharing this video with us and great catch as always!
Yes it is. It is Glendale, Ohio
No train horn really sucks; I grew up not far from there.
I don't really like quiet zones but I will railfan them from time to time. We have a quiet zone here in Bakersfield CA on the busy BNSF Mojave Sub. The quiet zone extends from the BNSF Bakersfield yard to Kern Jct where it joins the UP Mojave Sub and reverts back to a horn zone. I go railfan the L St and N St railroad crossings sometimes, especially to catch the loaded grainers before they drop all their mid and rear DPUs at the BNSF yard. The BNSF Bakersfield Sub extends west and north from the BNSF Bakersfield yard and passes close to my house and i do railfan out there a lot.
Cool video.
Jaw tooth trains looks cool with or out bowin their horn,s ❤
Sharon Rd is the only major road without an overpass . I could hear the train horns from my house in Springdale, if I was outside . The fence won't be that tall, but I guess you could walk across Sharon and a little north to get a fenceless view. LOL you can always add a train horn in the editing ...
It's a shame that they did away with the horn there. That looks like a good restaurant to eat at. You could sit up on the 2nd floor patio and watch the trains! Great video!
OMFG ARE YOU KIDDING ME RIGHT NOW, at least i recorded some vids of it. Thanks for letting all of know!
TrainzGuy 2 you’ll still catch trains here at the first crossing
Excellente vidéo @ Jaw 😎👍LIKE.((👍 35 ))happy Week
Happy Sunday! ✔
No horn zones have got to be the dumbest thing ever...
That being said, I really enjoy your videos.
Fences are a great addition to any small town.
Heh Brian I think it's terrible to have a no horn zone because of safety reasons. I live by a CSX track and love it. Let me know when you come back to Paris and I'll by you lunch at the new train station restaurant.
Awesome! I checked on the progress there a couple months ago. I can't wait to eat there and wait for a train!
✿Great work...✿
Gretings..✿
Good information
Hey Jaw tooth great video are they turning that crossing into a road or is this temporary maintainance
love your videos jaw tooth
Too bad they did that. I love to hear the horns. Wonder if they will regret the no horn decision. Thanks for all that you do to bring us these great videos.
I agree with you
How is that allowed! Trains have to blow their horns! Such a beautiful sound 🎶 Right 🌹
@JawTooth i saw NS 7332 in Altoona back in the end of April 2019
That sucks Brian, I am coming into town on the 14th and 15th.
A railroad crossing with no train horn is stupid. I would just make the bell louder.
In some cases, a no train horn zone can be beneficial, and crossings can be guarded more heavily to make up for the silent horn. In this case, the nearby residents were being woken up by the train horns several times per night. It was also a big nuisance to the surrounding residents and businesses during the day. For the record, a train horn is about 125db, which is loud enough to cause hearing damage after just 2 minutes. Imagine how annoying it would be to deal with that constantly interrupting your sleep and daily activities at home. That would be extremely unpleasant.
As for guarding a no train horn zone, Seattle, Washington is a stellar example. They have a no train horn zone where the railroad passes by the waterfront on Elliot Bay. However, there haven't been any major incidents there in years because there is fencing around the tracks, all the crossings are gated, there are pedestrian gates at every crossing, and the traffic lights are synched with the crossings, which have bright electronic signs that say "TRAIN" with a no-right-turn symbol that turns on when a train is coming.
cellogirl11RW I don’t care about what they think, it’s their fault they moved 1000ft from the tracks, like peoples fucking minds don’t work these days...
I live about 1 block from a crossing, you don't even notice the horns after about a month, even at night. The only time I have been awakened by a train was a derailment that shook the house. So people being woke up is a farce. The train honks it is by in a few minutes.
What gets me is, people move next to railroad tracks and surprise here comes a train SMH. So don't move next to railroad tracks if it's going to bother you.
Some moron is going to get killed !
4th! just got this on my notifications. nice place to railfan!
I wonder if the city is aware they have to reimburse the railroad for all costs involved.
Yes, the city has to pay $265,000 toward the project and CSX pays the rest.
@@JawTooth The city should pay for all of the costs. They are the ones who enacted the ordinance.
@@JawTooth They are getting by cheap. Quad crossings cost $300-$500,000.
@@JawTooth What cost? All the engineer has to do is not blow the horn. We're one of the very few countries in the world which still have trains blasting horns at every intersection. It's well past time to end this darn nuisance.
Sissy troll alert.....
Great video! It's a shame the town opted for quiet instead of safety.
Ok, they eliminate the horn sounding from the trains, but maintain the crossing and crossing gate? For noise abatement reasons I'm sure. It's up to the crosser to look both ways.
I like it!!!!
This one town near me is in Minnesota across the river that town has no train horn been like that for years
I don't agree with "No Train Horn" Zones. I say train horns make people aware a train is coming and to cancel a chance of someone being hit. All No Train Horn Zones need to be removed around the US and made a horn zone again no matter where they are at. If people around there don't like it then they should of never moved there and they should move somewhere else No Matter What.
Brian Edlund I also don’t agree with the No horn zones.
I totally agree with you. It is dangerous and stupid. But we live in the age of total idiots and brain dead politicians that don't have a clue about what's safe and what isn't, or so it sure seems.
And I can never understand someone that buys or rents a home DIRECTLY NEXT to RailRoad Tracks and then has the audacity to complain about the trains horns and other sounds. It's like, hey STUPID, didn't you see the railroad tracks BEFORE you bought or rented that house or apartment.
Some people are just totally brain-dead if they claim I didn't know the noise would be so bad or loud.
Come on, you can't tell me these yokels have never been stopped by a train ever and never heard the horns, rumbles of the cars and bells? Really? No way would I believe them if they tried to tell me that load of manure!
@@HolidayDecorator You're dang straight! These idiotic imbiciles know dang well what they're doing!
Many of the retirees in Glendale have some kind of connection to the railroad, so I know it wasn't them that cried foul over such foolishness.
It's the rich folks that want everything to be catered to them and around their own selfish needs and interests. People like that are a danger to safety and are a cancer to society. These green smoothie, hemp t-shirt wearing clowns are out of control!
Sad to see...... Gonna be fun seeing Jawtooth on top of ladder to get a clear shot of trains
Some locals whined about the horn and guess what, they'll scream the first time some gets hit because of a no horn crossing.
Yep, that's what will happen.
When I lived in Melbourne, FL in the early 1980's, FEC enacted a NO HORN, NO BELLS at all Grade Crossings, the tally of people getting severely injured and usually killed rose in severity, that rise was almost close to an 80% increase in accidents at the grade crossings that had the crossing bells on the signal silenced as well as the loco horns and bells silenced. {I lived a few homes down from one of the grade crossings, so I saw what happens when this lunacy is enacted!}
Albeit this was only from 10pm-7am daily, but it didn't work.
And with todays idiots driving and yakking away or worse, texting on cell phones, this is probably going to increase fatalities at railroad grade crossing to 95% or even higher.
And also cars are getting to be more and more soundproof from outside noises, which I also think is extremely stupid, this too is going to lead to more train vs vehicle accidents.
But I guess this is just another way of cleaning out the gene pool when idiots don't bother to stop and look first to see if a train is coming.
I foresee a ton of Darwin Award's in the making due to these idiotic and unsafe NO TRAIN HORN/BELLS and silencing the bells on crossing signals.
For the train fans, me included, the horn is part of the thrill of seeing a train. I know of some no train horn crossings not too far away from where I live. It's not the same. It seems funny that we've put up with whistles and horns for over 100+ years, and now it seems to be a burden for people to hear a horn for just a few moments. It's stupid.
People are softer and more selfish than every before. A whole generation of privileged, self-entitled softies. People like that are dangerous to society.
Being from Lake Ronkonkoma NY with one of the busiest Commuter rails in the nation The LIRR. Rail Roading gets in your blood. Didn't hurt that my uncle was an Engineer, 1930s to Late 60s
Awesome! I will look that up on Google Maps. I'm supposed to go to Pennsylvania in a few weeks and I might make it to New Jersey and possible New York.
Cool!
Fantastic video!But You shot only freight trains.Passenger trains do not use this line?Best regards!
Excellent Video. Jaw Tooth. 🇮🇳
I'm your 1000th viewer!!
Awesome and thanks!
Needed more info?
Apparently CSX far side track NS near side. Which maintains the crossing and ctc? How long do they run parallel to each other? Original railroads in town were? Where do the tracks run to?
Do they ever crossover?
That’s a lot of trains for that little town.
Those look like pretty busy crossings. How are the townsfolk going to get around town?
I don't live close enough to the local rail line. I gotta have the window open to hear it.
A no train horn zone is scary but at least the trains has that bell so its ok ❤ so trains will come just no train horns
@reverse thrust your right but if its about the horn from the train cant they switch horns like one loud one and one quiet one for cities that has a no train horn zone
that engine from the CSX 529 is gonne,black smoke.
Narcan?. I carry an epi pen. That will wake you up big time. Even from the dead :-)
A couple years ago I was here and a girl drove by me and hit a cable that supports a telephone pole. She was driving on heroin and stopped breathing. I filmed the police doing CPR on her and the news put my video on television two nights in a row. I knew she lived but I dont know what ever became of her.
@@JawTooth I thought I recognized this crossing as that video! was going to ask. now I know.
1981 Rail Casualties:
9,461 Collisions
728 Deaths
3,293 Injuries
2018* Same Topics
2,214
270
819
You can see that although the numbers overall are down since 1981, the fatalities are still high, even higher by percentage in 2019 (around 40% vie 25%). Official estimate that around 3-5% of collisions are suicide based. Trains today travel much faster than 1981 and I believe there are more trains around now hauling freight, etc.
Railroads have implemented no-horn zones all over the country. Many are established by some local laws passed to restrict noise. A lot of freight trains run late at night but, in normal operations, still are required to sound their horns. Flagstaff, Arizona, for example has been fighting a long battle with BNSF and others over noise, claiming it keeps people up at night and causes health problems.
You can do the math here with the numbers. They have gone down over 50% but still remain high. I haven't seen any numbers from no-horn areas, but you can bet someone is keeping track them somewhere.
What kind of scanner antenna do you have and how well does it work?
The train at 18:00 sounded like an engine breaking down
What would be effective and cheap would be to take the crossing signals from Albion ave and put them on the main crossing. Quiet zones suck.
That wouldn't save as much money as you think it would.
I feel so sad for is video 😭 and I Feel the same way
What other things have to be done to change to a no horn zone other than put up signs?
wow Brian come visit St Louis Mo we the NO BLOW YOUR HORN its wild so they upgraded all the gates and crossing to accomaded this and only blow if a person on the track
Now that's what we in the rest of the World call sense.
*@Cyberdon Blue*
“Much of the rest of the world uses 240 volt circuits in homes and businesses. Those are dangerous! 120 volts the US uses is safer. When is the rest of the world going to catch on??” - _that's how stupid you sound._ Just so you know.
did you catch the "TORC" locomotive wearing CSX colors while you were there?
I don't think so. I don't know what that stands for. lol
What if the crossings fail that is when no horn zones become dangerous. I have seen crossing fail due to power outages. Sometimes csx will have crews stop traffic if it is reported or caught in time.
People are crazy! The chance of death at those crossings will increase now!
Not if people aren't stupid.
Cool
They’ll drop like flies with their paying attention to the crossing skills.. once your in a quad gate system, you’re dead 😂
So why exactly do they have to remove pedestrian cross walks and grade crossings for no horn zones when Ashland Va has no horns thru the entire town and they have crossings every block and two or three pedestrian crossings in between? as seen live on Virtual Railfan channel.
Great catches! To be honest installing a fence at the tracks is unnecessary. I'm against no train horn rules when it comes to rail crossings.
The fences are what bother me because they will ruin filming the trains. The best spot to film will be the balcony at Cock N Bull. My favorite table was in Railfan Magazine a few years ago
I had several crossing's that were in the employee timetable no horn rated. On crossing in particular I used the horn after I slammed the train brake into emergency with a 97 car freight. A loaded school bus tried to go around the gates and when she saw me approaching and couldn't clear the croquet to stopped cars in front of her panicked and reversed the bus slamming into the car behind her the stopped trying to move. I took off the front bumper of her school bus and when I came to a stop 193 feet past the crossing her bus was alongside the locomotives. Fortunately other than bumps and bruises and a lot of crying none older than the 4th grade the kids were fine. After the kids were removed a train master told me they say you blew the horn, you kthis is a no horn crossing? I pointed to a house adjacent to the tracks and told him ohh yeah, that's the asshole who got it converted to a no horn crossing. He bought the house three years ago and has been bitching and EV,en thrown apples at passing locomotives. I will continue to blow the horn after this, screw the asshole and if he complains tell him the railroad will happily make an offer on his house, did he really expect the railroad would be quiet?
19 months later he sold the house to a conductor on our road for half what he paid.i continuous blow for that crossing until I retired.
The conductor and his wife? Sleep like babies when a train goes by at night.