today's games are a shitshow of over the top graphics with zero content, zero story, zero immersion, zero passion, zero soul. these games nowadays can not be compared to the games of the 90s and even some pioneers of the early 00s. sorry for being so negative, but this is something that really disappoints me. we see the same symptoms in the game industry that we see in other big industries. the consumer is not the focal point, but the money. and it does not matter how and where it comes from as long is it comes fast into the bank account of the shareholders. it's sad and if we want to save our games we need to fight for it somehow
Been preaching this for years and you are 100% right but sadly we are out numbered by shills and apologists both in the review industry and the consumers, until they go I can't see things getting any better.
Just play older games, it's not like we don't have 5 decades worth of masterpieces available already. Also we still get some bangers every now and then.
@@WorthABuyreviews Damn right about that. Worse off is that I wouldn't be surprised if Blackrock or Vanguard have influenced this game since the story is crap.
Wanted to say something in those lines, you are absolutely right. My 2 cents would be to just don't have hope for good quality games and you will not be disappointed, play older stuff and some new indies here and there who are actually good, 💩 is not worth our time, fuk reviews, obtain 💩 in other ways to properly try it, if that way games stick with you more than 3 days buy it. That would be the main way to fight the BS and of course the second (harder) path would be to start making your own games with love. I actually expected hw3 to suck after seeing the first trailer, tone is 💩, strategy is 💩 and everything else is 💩 except maybe ship designs are ok. This will be the pattern for many years until the suck era of games pass by. Cheers.
I don't understand how devs can constantly make these series worse with their changes! Just take what was good about the previous games and expand on it ffs.
I'm guessing most of the devs who made the original games no longer work there. It's long enough that some are probably even retired at this point. Kind of crazy eh?
@@mablesfatalfable6021you are spot on. Nothing is original anymore. Everything is just remakes and remasters or horrible sequels in the movie arena. It is because meritocracy is being replaced with victimhood and identity politics.
Every studio seems to think that "modern" (not DEI, but 2024 in general) audience = stupid+lazy = give easy games, blizz said something about "starcraft 2 was too hard for a 2010 game" during some conference lol, every company out of touch
The devs banned me in a steam discussion for "hate speech" when all I did was let folks know that gearbox hired the self proclaimed bigots at Sweet baby inc during the production. It's insane. Was worth to save a few fellow gamers the money and time
That alone already got me very suspicious about the game, I mean they just ban everyone mentioning the W word in the slightest. I decided not to Day 1 buy despite I was waiting for it. Then when that one person who was in charge of the story was exposed, I knew I should remove the game from my wishlist.
@@rps215 Dude, I've been waiting for HW3 since 2. I didn't say that they used SBI only that their publisher consulted with them during the development. Banned from the community for hate speech. Asked steam how they can allow devs to accuse users of something so heinous and their reply was "talk to the devs, we don't unban users". I never asked to be unbanned.
Last 5 lvls was just 50 to all strike craft production. Only lost one destroyer maybe 50 frigates the wholegame. Two mission restarts because of 'oh, thats what i was ment to do'. And the story. I feel like the run up to the story, plus the story was the way to go.
Gearbox is sweetbaby involved, by the way. No wonder fleet command looks ugly af. The original fleet command looks like and talks like an organic entwined machine. This new fleet command has more emotions then logic to command a fleet to save someone...
I'm currently having an issue of not being able to proceed past a mission. Beat it and remains stuck. Then if I take my eyes off any units, they go to the other side of the map.
This release is less home-world, more balcony-garden. Plus the maps are so small/enclosed, the ships so fragile/disposable and the voicework so bored/disconnected it feels more like you are playing with toys in a diorama than watching an epic battle between ships the size of cities using weapons that can scour planets with their firepower.
Try out Nebulous Fleet Command when you get a second! Entirely capital ship based at the moment but to me it is the only space combat system that gives Homeworld 1 a run for its money
Cataclysm was the best for me. It's so sad to see devs treat this beloved franchise like another cash grab. There's just something rotten about the gaming industry these days.
SBI was consulted. I was actually banned in a steam discussion by a dev for just bringing up sweet baby inc. They are insane. Said it was "hate speech" LOL
@@Jackfromshack How is this about activism? Also, what qualifies as activism here? This is just about good and bad writing and specifically in-game storytelling. From what I see, they seem to have gone too far into the "overexplain everything" school of storywriting which seems to be modern (because it's the logical result of Wikipedia-fandom and online fan culture), but that has nothing to do with political views.
i had play both 1 and 2 in 90 and ofc the remaster, it was nearly never as long as multi-hour battle, i believe we was young, and was lost at this time trying figure how it was work. each missions of the campaign of 1 and 2 was extremely short. At the moment you know what to do and where was the objective primary or secondary. ... No internet for help figure thing and mechanics who at this time could have been obscure. nostalgia is offtly only nostalgia in games. ( just say i was play on atarist in middle of 80 ). It seems fans of HW, the comunity are quite divised on it. you get good and bad review, i don't know if it is just the expectations who is too much high.. the story is effectevily not great ( not that the 1 and 2 was a miles better). I respect all opinions and i can understand each point of view.. the campaign is short i tend to believe the game is a good comeback and all the additional mode, warmode, skirmish and the multiplayer should bring a bit more than the campaign.
I lost interest when I saw Denuvo being used. Then read some of the Steam reviews and any level of "if it's amazing I might just let that pass" vanished.
I don't have a problem with pre-order content, if it's just cosmetics. Backers that lend their money without seeing the product deserve some special treatment, to compensate them for the risk they are taking. Season pass is a bit silly for a game like this... usually subscriptions are warranted when the developer has to run servers, and intends to continually update the game. I doubt that's going to happen here.
@@chrishoppner150 They added more red flags than the big ones you mentioned. - No real gameplay was shown past the lack luster demo (No review copies went out ahead with a couple of days ahead of release like they tried to hide something) - The game was delayed for the regular edition - Or as they call it early access for the ones willing to pay more - The game pass ONLY had content for the game mode everyone seemed least interested in. - The eula basically turns all your digital life ownership to them (not that it supersedes laws... but narrow sighted seems to think it does :)) My 2 cents - The dev should have worked and listened more with the community and not their own hubris - Its plain as day!
They missed pretty much everything that made HW good. Especially the mysterious nature of the storytelling that didn't tell you too much about what was going on. It looks pretty nice. I'll give it that. Shout out to the artists.
That aspect is quite baffling to me since the Incarnate as a faction and the setting in a barely known sector of space filled with Progenitor megaliths would seem like a good setting to do that. The fact we don't even encounter any Progenitor automata like movers drones and keepers is particularly strange.
@@maskofsan1ty then why ai like tomb raider, resident evil etc? No dude, one thing is a woman in game and other thing is a woman empowered, Marie Sue that hates white men
@@Aves_1 well.... he is right tho... as you say we get 4-6h and there is stuff beside the campaing, the problem is that we used to get the side stuff beside the campaing before AND the bloody campaing used to be 15-20 h, FOR THE SAME PRICE, that's what he is actually saying when he says only 4-6 h camp, i swear so many people talk about the multyplayer and side mods part of the game like it's something that people came up with JUST a few years ago and that's why the camp are so short and shit, when in realty we got that shit before WITH a LONG AND SATYSFYING CAMP
In Homeworld 2 it gathered all the resources at the end of a level and if i remember right there was usually a calm beginning to most levels to let you rebuild. Weird thats gone
and cataclysm let you mine out on some maps, while on others it gave you an incentive to leave asap (often in the form of an incoming enemy fleet too big for you to handle)
@@SteelExoskeleton They also scaled the size of the enemy army based on what you had available. This wasn't a perfect system but it felt good to play and was immersive. If you felt like you needed to be patient and build your fleet, you would be justified because the enemy fleet was huge. If you rushed because the story made it seem like you should, you weren't punished.
The adventures of 'The Chin That Crushed a Thousand Spaceships' and 'Nonthreatening Blackman' against 'PMS-ing Female Palpatine from the end of The Rise of Skywalker'
The moment I saw her face I was disappointed. I can not believe they made a main character look like that. Also you can see in one of the earlier trailers, they actually made a decent looking human face but apparently scrapped it for a bog chin.
@@15975322 They unilaterally give themselves the right to gather and sell pretty much all of your personal information. All of it. Seriously, it's a horrifying read.
They give themselves license to collect data like: - first/last name - e-mail address - residential address - telephone number - photographic images (if uploaded by user) - credit card information, if provided to their third-party payment processors for purchases - shipping information, if provided for purchases - country - game device identifier - screen name - demographic information (age, gender, date of birth, marital status, race, level of education, etc.), if you choose to provide it in profiles, surveys or forums, such as an application to become one of their playtesters Some of these are obviously less reasonable than others. There's no opt out to data gathering in general. They also say they might grab your MAC-address.
My god. As a die hard homeworld fanboy I am in tears. This review is so TRUE. To the point. And if you compare this insight to the mainstream media, they should be ashamed.
Personally, this game is the biggest disappointment in a long LONG time. I loved the first two games, even the last one was kinda okay. Ive dreamed of HW3 for over a decade and then they drop this. Its just a shallow husk that looks great but has almost nothing to do with the originals. It lacks soul regarding story and know how when it comes to gameplay/strategy. I feel so let down i cant even describe it, its just a game but HW always had a special place in my heart. Everything goes to shit these days, LotR was the last one to break my heart thanks to amazon, but THIS really takes the cake.
The removed the button to click to end missions? WTF? That was (for exactly stated reasons) one of the best things about the damned series! I distinctly remember being able to recuperate after some harder missions and i do believe, tho not certain even some with timer tended to have that same approach. This is sadly not first time a classic was brought back to just be shadow of its former self, remember Aquanox, Battlezone (altho that was second comeback the first one in90s was decent), Saints Row, Duke.... the list is nigh endless. stupid cash in culture, soiling good memories with subpar takes on brilliance.
Honestly, there were several flags suggesting that Homeworld 3 would likely be a flop. The pre-release run-up didn't have the feel of a game that has Homeworld's storied pedigree. - The PR trailers didn't show a lot of actual gameplay. They were just teasers. - There wasn't a coherent story related by the promotional materials. Why are we returning to the world of Homeworld? - No early reviews from anyone. No one plugging the game as the next best thing. - Pre-order at full price. This is maybe the worst indicator. If the devs don't have confidence in their creation and just want to try and trick people into buying it, this is what they do. Honestly, it reminded me of some of those movies sequels they release in the theater but they know it's bad but they try anyway, only for it to go to streaming not soon after and the box office numbers turn out terrible anyway. I really don't get it. If the game is bad, do they release it to try and recoup costs? Is the lost reputation worth it?
I'm happy there is another Homeworld though..... Voice acting - ugh Cinematics - ugh Story - ugh Ship management - ugh Gameplay overall - not bad Homeworld 1&2 did it right, why change the core of what is Homeworld
Seems to me we have more games coming out than ever before it's just that most are so meh. I think the whole industry needs a good crash or at least a major shake up.
I think when gaming as a whole became more mainstream, it was just inevitable that things would get watered down. The flip is now money > passion when it should be the inverse.
A crash is needed for sure: this is exactly what happened in the late 80’s and the crash led to a resurgence of fresh and entertaining games in the 90’s and 2000’s as the developers needed to regain the consumers trust.
The older I’ve become, the more I resent any game that decides to remove my player agency and rip into a cut scene or some such. And to force the player to “move on” to the next chapter without being able to harvest battlefield resources, which was a staple of the Homeworld series, is an absolute no-no. This’ll be a regrettable but definitive hard-pass for me. All these years of buildup, to be squandered on the rocks of “meh”…..seriously Blackbird Interactive, WTF?!
Big fan of the first one, Cataclysm and Deserts of Kharak. Played the demo for this and then bought the full game on release and played for about 10 minutes. Refunded because I immediately got a bad vibe. Maybe in a year at a hefty discount.
@@CheeseDanish85 Yeah. I have a feeling this is dead on arrival for a number of reasons. The subreddit appears to be going through the stages of grief with users at various points in the process of that. This is where the IP dies for the foreseeable future unfortunately I believe. Maybe Gearbox sells the IP for cents on the dollar in 5 to 10 years. Another studio tries again in 15 years. I wish the IP would go to a better publisher. Imagine if it went to Valve, who made Half Life while being published by Sierra who also published the original Homeworld. The IP in my opinion requires a 'benevolent' publisher for the real vision and appeal of the IP to carry through. Its a huge shame because I think all things considered BBI hit it out of the park with Deserts of Kharak. Played the campaign through about 4 times now. Homeworld remastered released at roughly the same time so it was a golden period for Homeworld that maybe wasn't appreciated as much as it should have been. The Dawn of War 3 comparison is apt in many ways. If publishers expected a live service model to justify the existence of Homeworld 3, then its done for. Thats not even taking into account they appear to have hitched their horse to the MOBA wagon. Ill be in my mid to late 50's potentially before someone has another run at it, once again its a real shame because Deserts of Kharak was the last time we got Homeworld, it was great in its style and gameplay and I think under celebrated.
its what i feared... this is the reason developers banning anyone mentioning DEI on the steam forums. Game is DEI infested. But what is the deal breaker for me is Denuvo. This only exists to punsh legitimate owners, while the prirates enjoy a crap denuvo free version. Guess which version ill be playing.
How is it DEI infested? Because fleet command is a woman and the captain is a black man? Complaining about that shows you know nothing about the universe
Not warping out after mission complete was such a big deal. Cleaning out systems and salvaging after battles took longer time than the actual mission and let you replenish your fleet, tech up, set up squadrons. It was the only time you had to plan for the next mission. Yes there was THAT mission that punished you for it, but that single mission was the only one where you warped bare bones and rushed to build once in the next zone... having the whole campaign be that way tells me that I won't be enjoying this skin suit of a homeworld game.
The sense of scale in homeworld 3 is dialed up to 11 googols, to a point, where size and distance and inertia and speed obviously does not matter AT ALL anymore in any way, except for purely arbitrary constrains. This is so incoherent, that it even makes DisneyWars look like shakespeare in comparison.
thats because of the scaling options, if you actually disable it the scale returns to normal (I literally did this in the first tutorial mission because it bothered me a considerable amount)
The only positives I've seen of this game are the graphics and the UI. I'm not really sure why they felt the need to even make another but here we are. Kind of crazy given how well they handled the remaster of 1 and 2 and how good Deserts of Kharak were.
the gameplay IMO is pretty good, though I have a few gripes with it. The roadmap they have proposed seems quite good with two new "factions" (remained to be seen on what that entails) by the end of the year, alongside new maps. If they actually deliver on that, homeworld 3 will have a fleshed out multiplayer experience for quite a long time, and with the modding support it will have quite a lot going for it. However, if you want a deep and entertaining campaign story similar to HW1 or 2, look elsewhere.
The remaster of HW2 was fine, it was nice to get Heidi to record all the voice lines so there would be a consistent Fleet Command across both games. As for the remaster of 1, that was beyond terrible: just a port of the missions into the HW2 engine, sacrificing a lot on the way! Formations are completely broken, projectile simulation was swapped for RNG with a percentage chance to hit, there's no more fuel on strike craft (the gameplay mechanic the Kadeshi have an entire ship designed around), and they even broke visual things like turrets recoiling.
Why the heck are companies not capable of realizing that pouring millions into years of development to make an underwhelming game isn't going to make them the money they wanted? Yeah a bunch of people are past their refund windows now, but there's no way they're going to touch the DLC or anything else they put out after this nonsense.
I'm a diehard Homeworld fan; this meathook abortion of a game enrages me. The controls are miserable, the changes to playspeed is unforgivable, the UI is utter crap. There's nothing "Homeworld" about this game. It's a 3D modern version of Starcraft wearing a Homeworld skinsuit.
Not to mention the devs are very "sensitive". I happened to mention "woke" in a post not even referring to their game or any person, and I got a permaban , yes, no warning, no comment deletion, permaban....just on that basis alone I de-wishlisted and will never buy.
@@richardhunter9779 Like that im loosing 2 FPS and now? are you unable to watch comparisons on RUclips? Its not a big deal. 5-10 FPS if its really bad but thats rare.
It's wild how you'll hand out all your info to every data broker on the planet, then get uppity about Denuvo and Gearbox collecting the same data thats collected about you off all the platforms the game is sold on anyway lol
@@CaptainSkuzzy it's not just about handing your data over in this case though - there's a non-negligible performance impact which is further exacerbated in this game given how CPU-bound and poorly optimized it is (players are reporting nearly the same performance regardless of whether they're using 3060 or 4090). they're probably gonna ditch Denuvo some months down the line though (there's a monthly cost in keeping it attached, and generally speaking only Ubisoft and EA are known to keep it indefinitely), and they're going to hail it as an 'optimization patch' lol.
I was looking for an answer on why story went bonkers and I found it, essentially Gearbox provided their own writer for the project which is woke , ironically that person isn't even credited, but there is a whole article on Homeworld Universe with name Lyn Joice
This is nothing more than a dead game and I will assume they will be a mass refund from the backers as far as I know because Gearbox's parent company is already losing money and are laying off employers as I am writing this. and worse, this is a punch in the face to the fans of Homeworld. This game was trash and there is a conspiracy going on that the story was consulted by Sweet Baby Inc which is a woke DEI consular for developers on making stories. if this is true, then this game in inherently woke. To the fans out there, Just get HW remastered set and Homeworld Cataclysm. the stories are alot better then this tripe.
I knew there was something wrong with this game after watching the trailer. They changed the model of the main character to a person of color. I thought she was supposed to be a white woman originally. They also had a black guy in it and no white characters
Great review. I have been playing homeworld since i first saw it on the 1999 PC ZONE demo disc. Ive hundreds of hours in Homeworld 2 and played pretty much every mod. To say I have been excited for this game is a bit of an understatement. I Pre-Ordered the collecters edition the day it came out years ago. When i completed a skirmish in 12 minutes I knew this was not Homeworld. The campaign was ok and the game is gorgeous, but its just a zerg rush and spam build. I am hugely dissapointed but I have faith in modders.
I loved HMW 1/2 I especially love the Complex Mods. I am generally disappointed with how they presented this game. I hate the combat, build/production and especially the resource and AI pathing and Designs of ships and balancing. Combat - You send blob of units that instantly get shredded just because (Incarnate Ships are just overall Better Ships) - Bombers are good against Corvettes now and hardly a word about it in campaign, just "recommend using bombers". The game does not tell you enough information while overwhelming you with nonsense. - Bombers have minimal affect on Frigate and Capital before just getting obliterated - Hiigaran Interceptors, while good are just simply outclassed by the Incarnate - Hiigaran Anti-Capital/Frigate are worthless. - Hiigaran Destroyers are just awful full stop. Design - Back in HMW2 you see these slick ships that are backing heavy artillery, but now in HMW3 you get brick with guns that is somehow really maneuverable to really big brick that is so slow you can measure it in ice ages. Resources - You use to be able to build Resource collectors and Mobile Refineries, now that are just packed all into one. I understand "Quality of life" but this gave me agency to say "I want this asteroid cluster, and that one, but since this other one is highly contested i'll just leave it for the victor and move on" These controllers also need to be babysat as well because they cannot think and breath at the same time. Build/Production - Oh my, long since the days of HMW2 where you could build squadrons and a fact of getting two carries up to help bolster fleet size in critical situations are over. In HMW1/2 you could, click on a carrier, its entire build screen comes up and you can order what you need, now you must, select the carrier > Menu Scroll at the top right of the screen to the specific production ship to build, build say a Strike Craft, watch it leave the carrier and immediately obliterated because as mentioned in the combat section. Ai Pathing - is a joke when I tell my strike craft "Hey you are very damaged and i'd like to not spend 150 RUs to replace you, come back and repair the AI just says "No." and then blows up. I even had times when my squadrons just randomly blew up, nothing was around them, just "Bam! Gone another 150 RUs please" Overall Design - The Devs decided to double down on the Homeworld: Deserts of Kharak design which is pretty bad all on its own and should have been a one off thing, but nope, bad design is bad design.
To my investigation, it came to Fruition, if you look at the special thanks part of the credits (assuming if you played the whole campaign), They hired two organizations Center for Digital Media and Diversity in Games. CDM is based in Vancouver in BC Canada and are notorious for working along side with SBI. In other words, the game was influenced with DEI. Dont waste your money on this garbage game.
To my regret, the Homeworld franchise has completely deteriorated. If you do not take into account the graphics, then there is not a single bit of progress in it, there is only a regression, with a lot of absurdity. Now, in the space of Homeworld dunes lie and winds blow, the icebergs with the sea at their feet are floating and every asteroid or piece of debris is motionless, the Mothership can take off from the planet surface by means maneuverable engines, while the characters themselves have turned into feminists with black commanders - it all looks disgustingly stupid for Homeworld franchise. Yes, franchise have had unrealistic moments before, but now, the idiocy exceeded all limits several times. Probably the game was made only for brainless youngsters and now Homeworld has no respect for its old fans, who still played the first games in the 2000s, since the game has lost its original style of storytelling (no stylized black and white cutscenes). Instead of black and white movies, the player sees cartoons, copied from the material library of Disney Princess movies. Absolutely everything in the game - its plot, characters, gameplay, game mechanics, damage model, physics, ballistics, AI, performance - all this looks secondary. None of this looks revolutionary or ultra-modern. All ideas, events or unit designs are copied from previous games or other movies, like Star Wars and as a result, are implemented worse than the originals. Everything listed above (except for graphics) is no better than what was done 21 years ago! Some parts of the gameplay, such as the lack of hyperspace with inhibitors, subsystems on ships, lack shipyards, research modules, attackable engines/weapons, are a real shame. This game is not looks like Homeworld, this game shouldn't be called "Homeworld 3" - it's "Deserts Of Kharak v 2.0" because it looks the same flat, undeveloped, with feminist characters and other fashionable crap, from which the viewer is already sick. Conclusion is that: This game is made significantly worse than any previous game in the Homeworld series. This is a hoax, that was wrapped in a beautiful graphic wrapper. After 21 years of inactivity (when HW2 came out) this content looks like an epic failure. I would not advise anyone to buy this, at least in this condition...
The first review i am watching on the new shiny Homeworld. A game i adored for many many many Years. I am kinda scared to watch this as i know Mack loves the original Homeworld so he will be brutally honest if this is yet another Bastardisation of the Franchise. Seriously kinda anxious about clicking Play here guys had to pour myself a Brandy!!!
Good that i didin't bought it i mean preordered it. i thought it could be good but this and the reviews on steam show me it's just another cash grab. Guess i try homeworld 2 remaster with complex for the first time. loved complex for the normal homeworld 2 before the remaster. i played all homeworld games even cataclysm backthen but more in skymish and against my brother backthen or together against ai. Never completed the story of them defently something i should do. but man sad that the third game sucks balls compared to their older counterparts. i'm not a fan of mobas and starcraft like gameplay. even if i enjoyed c&c 3 with tiberium essence mod.
I got banned from steam's HW3 forum for giving my opinion. The devs don't allow any freedom of speech and criticism. That's a no-go for me....on top of being a shit game
Yeah, sadly I was expecting it to be not good at all. I have seen some videos from other people when there was only a demo and they were dissapointed as well. I was really looking forward to HW3, hopefully Falling Frontier will be much better than this.
Change the economy where instead of paing money for games where companies decide to fuq the game up for a quick cash grab to make more profits. Somehow and some way they make income or some other kind of currency from the amount of engagement and peoples satisfaction and enjoyment while playing games. This way the games with the most passsion and soul rise to the top instead of quick cash grabs, also provides more reason to support a game for years intead of just making a sequel. This is just me throwing shit at the wall here, probably never going to happen, but do you see what im saying?
Seems like it's catered to moba kids, dumbed down and everything, matches gotta be fast otherwise we might lose the attention span of the adhd kiddos. Such a shame that they tarnished the homeworld name with this garbage. edit: at 6:30 you also said the same, feels like a moba. I feel like modded homeworld 2 was the most epic homeworld experience I've had.
This catering towards short attention span is driving me insane these days. Another game ruined because of that... The list getting huge guys. What should be huge is the maps and the scale of the battles in this game... But no the social media brainwashed average toddler gamer can't handle that anymore I guess !
Me personally I really like the game. I think the terrain is new and thought there are some holes but I would recommend it. But for the people who don’t like maby get it on a discount.
@@Aves_1 doesnt make sense for them to be this butt-ugly though, another hallmark of DEI, as is the banning anyone mentioning the presence of DEI influence. And while karan being a woman is already established (and naturally should stay as such), the current fleet command (which is just younger karan) and the main villain didnt need to be. Cataclysm already showed that you can have a homeworld game without fleet command beign a woman, and makaan showed its not a woman-only thing to plug oneself into a ship either. So no, out of Karan herself its not them just following the setting: thats a deliberate choice.
As someone who's played every Homeworld game at release, this has NOTHING to do with any of them. It's a 3d space strategy game, that's it. Doesn't have the atmosphere, the writing, the tone and the gameplay of the original. Just like BG3. And even without the Homeworld name, it's mediocre at best.
I did the mistake of trying out the VR Homeworld game. It's even worse than this. Totally stripped down. There's not even a skirmish mode. You can only replay chapters of the story. And the AI in that version is brain dead.
@CaptainSkuzzy It's even worse due to the fact it has really low ship counts and the fact that ships can't exist outside a group. It's very streamlined.
been watching a bit of the campaign; they're not only holding your hand, they're literally dragging you along if you're docile, or otherwise just push you ahead anyways. the mostly soulless voice acting doesn't help either.
Major fan of the first Homeworld, played it and replayed it for years, still one of my favorite games ever. Second one was OK, pace was a bit high for me, but it was enjoyable. Was really looking forward to this one, sad to hear it hasn't lived up to the expectations.
Btw 4-6h campaign is beyond BS. That's how long some of the missions in the first one took to solve (they were hard) and complete. I remember spending days thinking of the best strategy to complete some missions.
Releases like this are the reason why I just don't buy games day one anymore. If you can't be bothered to deliver complete product, I can't be bothered to pay full price.
No surprise -- Milking the Homeworld IP by sharting out a barebones, low effort sequel...isnt that 95% of the video game industry now? If they arent destroying a franchise by "reimagining" it for a modern audience...they are mining an IP & dropping full price turds, hoping the loyal fanbase will pay for any chance at some 'member berries. Not to mention - the developer of Homeworld has lost all its original talent & spiraled down the toilet. Blackbird interactive is now staffed by fragile, entitled children. They only work 4 days a week because their job was effecting their work/life balance. So -- this is what you get from people who work 20% less but get the same pay. Also, a bunch of the employees were laid off - cant imagine why. It all lead to Homeworld 3. Half the game -- all the price.
The only really 3D strategy RTS series, but it seems the Devs have a hard time catching up with the fame of their firstborn. The graphics seem to be much better, but it seems strategy hasn't developed much from the past.
Yeah. I mean the tragic thing is RTS is a stagnant genre because it's effectively been left to molder and rot since the mid 2000's when Halo 2 and Halo 3 broke open gaming to a mainstream market, and then Call of Duty 4 collectively transformed the industry to "play it safe" for 20 years straight. An example: Between 2000 and 2012 a tremendous amount of change happened in gaming. Virtually nothing like what was coming out in early 2000's was coming out by late 2000's, and by 2012 was considered intolerably old to a lot of people and outdated. Dragon's Dogma came out in 2012. Dragon's Dogma 2 came out in 2024. Annnnnd they're basically identical games in all the ways that matter once you get past the visuals and the trappings of the setting; and play almost identically. Big studios like Gearbox are stagnant as fuck.
Homeworld remasters and DOK is often on sale at around 5 euros on third-party websites. Homeworld 3 campaign is slightly shorter than DOK's campaign which was the shortest. Remaster includes HW 1 and 2 including the classic version+ has mod support too. So it is a very great value.
Keep these coming mack because this is another big game I wont be buying. Hopefully in time these companies will start to realise that unfinished poorly made games will not sell. Then, they might decide to put some effort into their products. Thank you for the video.
Keep these coming mack because this is another big game I wont be buying. Hopefully in time these companies will start to realise that unfinished poorly made gane will not sell. Then, they might decide to put some effort into their products. Thank you for the video.
I bought this on 20% sale on Steam, as a die-hard Homeworld veteran, I was hoping that I can like this game despite many bad reviews. I was curious and excited to see what I got after 20 years of waiting. I really wanted to love this game, but I couldn't. Graphics are nice, music is okay, real time ballistics looks cool, but that's all the positives. The story was like "what on earth I'm watching?" Playing through the campaign was painful, annoying and cringy, the cutscenes, characters and general storyline are a new low, the missions are short and too easy. The gameplay mechanics are oversimplified and buggy. It couldn't even be an "eh, it is okay" , decent space rts (especially without the story), but definetly not acceptable as a Homeworld sequel. So "my disappointment is immeasurable and my day is ruined"
today's games are a shitshow of over the top graphics with zero content, zero story, zero immersion, zero passion, zero soul. these games nowadays can not be compared to the games of the 90s and even some pioneers of the early 00s. sorry for being so negative, but this is something that really disappoints me. we see the same symptoms in the game industry that we see in other big industries. the consumer is not the focal point, but the money. and it does not matter how and where it comes from as long is it comes fast into the bank account of the shareholders. it's sad and if we want to save our games we need to fight for it somehow
Been preaching this for years and you are 100% right but sadly we are out numbered by shills and apologists both in the review industry and the consumers, until they go I can't see things getting any better.
Just play older games, it's not like we don't have 5 decades worth of masterpieces available already.
Also we still get some bangers every now and then.
Indies are the way
@@WorthABuyreviews Damn right about that. Worse off is that I wouldn't be surprised if Blackrock or Vanguard have influenced this game since the story is crap.
Wanted to say something in those lines, you are absolutely right. My 2 cents would be to just don't have hope for good quality games and you will not be disappointed, play older stuff and some new indies here and there who are actually good, 💩 is not worth our time, fuk reviews, obtain 💩 in other ways to properly try it, if that way games stick with you more than 3 days buy it. That would be the main way to fight the BS and of course the second (harder) path would be to start making your own games with love.
I actually expected hw3 to suck after seeing the first trailer, tone is 💩, strategy is 💩 and everything else is 💩 except maybe ship designs are ok. This will be the pattern for many years until the suck era of games pass by.
Cheers.
I don't understand how devs can constantly make these series worse with their changes! Just take what was good about the previous games and expand on it ffs.
I'm guessing most of the devs who made the original games no longer work there. It's long enough that some are probably even retired at this point. Kind of crazy eh?
@@mablesfatalfable6021you are spot on. Nothing is original anymore. Everything is just remakes and remasters or horrible sequels in the movie arena. It is because meritocracy is being replaced with victimhood and identity politics.
Obligatory uglification of the Fleet Command girl with each iteration...
Every studio seems to think that "modern" (not DEI, but 2024 in general) audience = stupid+lazy = give easy games, blizz said something about "starcraft 2 was too hard for a 2010 game" during some conference lol, every company out of touch
Meritocracy is being replaced by identity politics and victimization. One reason nothing is original these days from games, movies and TV
The devs banned me in a steam discussion for "hate speech" when all I did was let folks know that gearbox hired the self proclaimed bigots at Sweet baby inc during the production. It's insane. Was worth to save a few fellow gamers the money and time
steam moderators are politically biased miscreants.
dont worry, female character faces looking like they were stung by bees is all I needed to know they were involved XD
Yeah it was obvious from the woman in the cutscene looking like Herman Munster.
That alone already got me very suspicious about the game, I mean they just ban everyone mentioning the W word in the slightest. I decided not to Day 1 buy despite I was waiting for it. Then when that one person who was in charge of the story was exposed, I knew I should remove the game from my wishlist.
@@rps215 Dude, I've been waiting for HW3 since 2.
I didn't say that they used SBI only that their publisher consulted with them during the development. Banned from the community for hate speech. Asked steam how they can allow devs to accuse users of something so heinous and their reply was "talk to the devs, we don't unban users". I never asked to be unbanned.
Last 5 lvls was just 50 to all strike craft production. Only lost one destroyer maybe 50 frigates the wholegame. Two mission restarts because of 'oh, thats what i was ment to do'. And the story. I feel like the run up to the story, plus the story was the way to go.
Gearbox is sweetbaby involved, by the way. No wonder fleet command looks ugly af. The original fleet command looks like and talks like an organic entwined machine. This new fleet command has more emotions then logic to command a fleet to save someone...
I'm currently having an issue of not being able to proceed past a mission. Beat it and remains stuck. Then if I take my eyes off any units, they go to the other side of the map.
This release is less home-world, more balcony-garden.
Plus the maps are so small/enclosed, the ships so fragile/disposable and the voicework so bored/disconnected it feels more like you are playing with toys in a diorama than watching an epic battle between ships the size of cities using weapons that can scour planets with their firepower.
I’ll just keep replaying Homeworld 1 for the foreseeable future. It’s still the best 25 years later.
Try out Nebulous Fleet Command when you get a second! Entirely capital ship based at the moment but to me it is the only space combat system that gives Homeworld 1 a run for its money
I love #2 but each to their own.
@@legendmir1 HW2 with mods is pretty great.
I know I have played Homeworld 1, but apparently not on Steam, well, zero chance I will give more money to these people.
Cataclysm was the best for me. It's so sad to see devs treat this beloved franchise like another cash grab. There's just something rotten about the gaming industry these days.
was amazed how shit the story is, they really hire fucking anyone to write games these days
Not anyone, but deliberately activists with certain political views. Every. Sngle. Time.
@@Jackfromshack
I feel like at this point AI can write better stories than those people..
They should've just asked ChatGPT to write a story
SBI was consulted. I was actually banned in a steam discussion by a dev for just bringing up sweet baby inc. They are insane. Said it was "hate speech" LOL
@@Jackfromshack How is this about activism? Also, what qualifies as activism here? This is just about good and bad writing and specifically in-game storytelling. From what I see, they seem to have gone too far into the "overexplain everything" school of storywriting which seems to be modern (because it's the logical result of Wikipedia-fandom and online fan culture), but that has nothing to do with political views.
Tis the decade Devs are catfishing gamers. Do not buy this game, it is just bare bones. Nothing special about it.
Nope just wait for Sins of a Solar Empire 2. it has a steam page now.
Real shame, I could have got into this one.
Was hoping something good, hopes dashed.
Everything is memba berries and bait, smoke and mirrors.
Gamers have nothing now.
I quit gaming and feel happier enjoying other hobbies.
@@Dirge_Prime Must say that it doesn't look better than the old one either.
Dissappointing to see. I remember playing the first game with huge, multi hour-long battles that were really hard. Thanks for the review!
It was so unique at the time, I put so many hours into just skirmishes with AI.
lol, the missions in the first game take like 30 minutes on a hardmode run through on the first time bud.
i had play both 1 and 2 in 90 and ofc the remaster, it was nearly never as long as multi-hour battle, i believe we was young, and was lost at this time trying figure how it was work. each missions of the campaign of 1 and 2 was extremely short. At the moment you know what to do and where was the objective primary or secondary. ... No internet for help figure thing and mechanics who at this time could have been obscure. nostalgia is offtly only nostalgia in games. ( just say i was play on atarist in middle of 80 ). It seems fans of HW, the comunity are quite divised on it. you get good and bad review, i don't know if it is just the expectations who is too much high.. the story is effectevily not great ( not that the 1 and 2 was a miles better). I respect all opinions and i can understand each point of view.. the campaign is short i tend to believe the game is a good comeback and all the additional mode, warmode, skirmish and the multiplayer should bring a bit more than the campaign.
I was going to get this until I saw that there was pre-order exclusive content. Fuck that.
I lost interest when I saw Denuvo being used. Then read some of the Steam reviews and any level of "if it's amazing I might just let that pass" vanished.
Pre-order exclusive content AND a season pass AND Denuvo. Just how many red flags can they pack into a single release?
I don't have a problem with pre-order content, if it's just cosmetics. Backers that lend their money without seeing the product deserve some special treatment, to compensate them for the risk they are taking. Season pass is a bit silly for a game like this... usually subscriptions are warranted when the developer has to run servers, and intends to continually update the game. I doubt that's going to happen here.
@@chrishoppner150 They added more red flags than the big ones you mentioned.
- No real gameplay was shown past the lack luster demo (No review copies went out ahead with a couple of days ahead of release like they tried to hide something)
- The game was delayed for the regular edition - Or as they call it early access for the ones willing to pay more
- The game pass ONLY had content for the game mode everyone seemed least interested in.
- The eula basically turns all your digital life ownership to them (not that it supersedes laws... but narrow sighted seems to think it does :))
My 2 cents - The dev should have worked and listened more with the community and not their own hubris - Its plain as day!
Have you heard of pirating?
They missed pretty much everything that made HW good. Especially the mysterious nature of the storytelling that didn't tell you too much about what was going on. It looks pretty nice. I'll give it that. Shout out to the artists.
That aspect is quite baffling to me since the Incarnate as a faction and the setting in a barely known sector of space filled with Progenitor megaliths would seem like a good setting to do that. The fact we don't even encounter any Progenitor automata like movers drones and keepers is particularly strange.
I bought the remastered collection on green man for a couple of £££ and I'm having a blast, old games are just far better value for money imo.
We should boycott any game that uses Denuvo.
And pirate anything by Rockstar, EA, Take Two, Paradox...
Or any game with woke
@diego2817 that's just any game with a women for you guys...
@@maskofsan1ty then why ai like tomb raider, resident evil etc? No dude, one thing is a woman in game and other thing is a woman empowered, Marie Sue that hates white men
@@maskofsan1ty Nobody is calling Stellar Blade woke
Why are games nowadays 4-6 hours and they expect full price?
You realize there is more to the game than just the campaign, right?
@@Aves_1 go buy it then.. I won''t!
@@Aves_1 well.... he is right tho... as you say we get 4-6h and there is stuff beside the campaing, the problem is that we used to get the side stuff beside the campaing before AND the bloody campaing used to be 15-20 h, FOR THE SAME PRICE, that's what he is actually saying when he says only 4-6 h camp, i swear so many people talk about the multyplayer and side mods part of the game like it's something that people came up with JUST a few years ago and that's why the camp are so short and shit, when in realty we got that shit before WITH a LONG AND SATYSFYING CAMP
@@Sigrid_Von_Sincluster I fully agree.. and i remember 60 hour campaigns.
@@Aves_1 There was supposed to be more, but the rest of it sucks just as bad if not more.
In Homeworld 2 it gathered all the resources at the end of a level and if i remember right there was usually a calm beginning to most levels to let you rebuild. Weird thats gone
and cataclysm let you mine out on some maps, while on others it gave you an incentive to leave asap (often in the form of an incoming enemy fleet too big for you to handle)
@@SteelExoskeleton They also scaled the size of the enemy army based on what you had available. This wasn't a perfect system but it felt good to play and was immersive. If you felt like you needed to be patient and build your fleet, you would be justified because the enemy fleet was huge. If you rushed because the story made it seem like you should, you weren't punished.
Homeworld had such a unique and special feel, and they've just missed the point completely.
The adventures of 'The Chin That Crushed a Thousand Spaceships' and 'Nonthreatening Blackman' against 'PMS-ing Female Palpatine from the end of The Rise of Skywalker'
I was not expecting Skibidi Toilet level of cinematics. When the Queen started zipping around Sjet's dreams I was dying.
@@bfrehksdhf Skibidi Toilet has a better story and better facial proportions
The moment I saw her face I was disappointed. I can not believe they made a main character look like that. Also you can see in one of the earlier trailers, they actually made a decent looking human face but apparently scrapped it for a bog chin.
That EULA alone is a big reason not to buy it
Elaborate?
@@15975322 They unilaterally give themselves the right to gather and sell pretty much all of your personal information. All of it. Seriously, it's a horrifying read.
@@15975322Just read it. You don't want a summary of something that controlling and predatory.
Does it require your first born?
They give themselves license to collect data like:
- first/last name
- e-mail address
- residential address
- telephone number
- photographic images (if uploaded by user)
- credit card information, if provided to their third-party payment processors for purchases
- shipping information, if provided for purchases
- country
- game device identifier
- screen name
- demographic information (age, gender, date of birth, marital status, race, level of education, etc.), if you choose to provide it in profiles, surveys or forums, such as an application to become one of their playtesters
Some of these are obviously less reasonable than others. There's no opt out to data gathering in general.
They also say they might grab your MAC-address.
Thanks for saving me money, as always :)
My god. As a die hard homeworld fanboy I am in tears. This review is so TRUE. To the point. And if you compare this insight to the mainstream media, they should be ashamed.
Why not play it rather than going of this clowns videos
@@dazuk2630 we all played it and refunded because of this issue
Just another example of modern gaming slop. Everyone should be weary of any ip coming out now, woke bs aside.
It is a sad age indeed. HW1 was an absolute masterpiece. To see it’s legacy reduced to this is an abomination.
Fan that doesn’t know the first thing about the other games being the same as this game in the series?
= you’re not a fan.
i knew when i saw "gearbox" on the cover that this game would be DOA
Personally, this game is the biggest disappointment in a long LONG time. I loved the first two games, even the last one was kinda okay. Ive dreamed of HW3 for over a decade and then they drop this. Its just a shallow husk that looks great but has almost nothing to do with the originals. It lacks soul regarding story and know how when it comes to gameplay/strategy. I feel so let down i cant even describe it, its just a game but HW always had a special place in my heart. Everything goes to shit these days, LotR was the last one to break my heart thanks to amazon, but THIS really takes the cake.
Woke consultants "helped" with the game. Of course it's subpar.
The removed the button to click to end missions? WTF?
That was (for exactly stated reasons) one of the best things about the damned series!
I distinctly remember being able to recuperate after some harder missions and i do believe, tho not certain even some with timer tended to have that same approach.
This is sadly not first time a classic was brought back to just be shadow of its former self, remember Aquanox, Battlezone (altho that was second comeback the first one in90s was decent), Saints Row, Duke.... the list is nigh endless.
stupid cash in culture, soiling good memories with subpar takes on brilliance.
Honestly, there were several flags suggesting that Homeworld 3 would likely be a flop. The pre-release run-up didn't have the feel of a game that has Homeworld's storied pedigree.
- The PR trailers didn't show a lot of actual gameplay. They were just teasers.
- There wasn't a coherent story related by the promotional materials. Why are we returning to the world of Homeworld?
- No early reviews from anyone. No one plugging the game as the next best thing.
- Pre-order at full price. This is maybe the worst indicator. If the devs don't have confidence in their creation and just want to try and trick people into buying it, this is what they do.
Honestly, it reminded me of some of those movies sequels they release in the theater but they know it's bad but they try anyway, only for it to go to streaming not soon after and the box office numbers turn out terrible anyway. I really don't get it. If the game is bad, do they release it to try and recoup costs? Is the lost reputation worth it?
I'm happy there is another Homeworld though.....
Voice acting - ugh
Cinematics - ugh
Story - ugh
Ship management - ugh
Gameplay overall - not bad
Homeworld 1&2 did it right, why change the core of what is Homeworld
Seems to me we have more games coming out than ever before it's just that most are so meh. I think the whole industry needs a good crash or at least a major shake up.
I think when gaming as a whole became more mainstream, it was just inevitable that things would get watered down. The flip is now money > passion when it should be the inverse.
A crash is needed for sure: this is exactly what happened in the late 80’s and the crash led to a resurgence of fresh and entertaining games in the 90’s and 2000’s as the developers needed to regain the consumers trust.
I just knew this was gonna suck prior to the release of the demo, it has that gearbox stank all over it
The older I’ve become, the more I resent any game that decides to remove my player agency and rip into a cut scene or some such.
And to force the player to “move on” to the next chapter without being able to harvest battlefield resources, which was a staple of the Homeworld series, is an absolute no-no.
This’ll be a regrettable but definitive hard-pass for me.
All these years of buildup, to be squandered on the rocks of “meh”…..seriously Blackbird Interactive, WTF?!
Yeah, well, that's just like, your opinion, man
@@RvBy88 thank you Donny!
@@thedudeabides3138 Pardon me it seems I'm a bit out of my element
@@RvBy88 so you have no frame of reference here….you’re like a child who wanders in in the middle of a movie….
@@thedudeabides3138 What?? You're entering a world of pain!!
Looks like a game to pick up in a 75% off sale in 6 months...
Big fan of the first one, Cataclysm and Deserts of Kharak. Played the demo for this and then bought the full game on release and played for about 10 minutes. Refunded because I immediately got a bad vibe. Maybe in a year at a hefty discount.
@@firstandlastname6194 I'm getting intense Dawn of War 3 vibes from this one.
@@CheeseDanish85 Yeah. I have a feeling this is dead on arrival for a number of reasons. The subreddit appears to be going through the stages of grief with users at various points in the process of that.
This is where the IP dies for the foreseeable future unfortunately I believe. Maybe Gearbox sells the IP for cents on the dollar in 5 to 10 years. Another studio tries again in 15 years. I wish the IP would go to a better publisher. Imagine if it went to Valve, who made Half Life while being published by Sierra who also published the original Homeworld. The IP in my opinion requires a 'benevolent' publisher for the real vision and appeal of the IP to carry through.
Its a huge shame because I think all things considered BBI hit it out of the park with Deserts of Kharak. Played the campaign through about 4 times now. Homeworld remastered released at roughly the same time so it was a golden period for Homeworld that maybe wasn't appreciated as much as it should have been.
The Dawn of War 3 comparison is apt in many ways. If publishers expected a live service model to justify the existence of Homeworld 3, then its done for. Thats not even taking into account they appear to have hitched their horse to the MOBA wagon. Ill be in my mid to late 50's potentially before someone has another run at it, once again its a real shame because Deserts of Kharak was the last time we got Homeworld, it was great in its style and gameplay and I think under celebrated.
its what i feared... this is the reason developers banning anyone mentioning DEI on the steam forums. Game is DEI infested. But what is the deal breaker for me is Denuvo. This only exists to punsh legitimate owners, while the prirates enjoy a crap denuvo free version. Guess which version ill be playing.
How is it DEI infested? Because fleet command is a woman and the captain is a black man? Complaining about that shows you know nothing about the universe
@@Aves_1 dem cutscenes.
@@Aves_1 Well we know it is DEI infested because it is extremely forced, not natural.
@@Aves_1 If you are incapable to see the woke tropes by this point, that's astonishing.
@@speckbretzelfan these fake actors keeps pretend like it is still 2015 and no one know what is "woke" about. Outdated instructions
Not warping out after mission complete was such a big deal. Cleaning out systems and salvaging after battles took longer time than the actual mission and let you replenish your fleet, tech up, set up squadrons. It was the only time you had to plan for the next mission. Yes there was THAT mission that punished you for it, but that single mission was the only one where you warped bare bones and rushed to build once in the next zone... having the whole campaign be that way tells me that I won't be enjoying this skin suit of a homeworld game.
The sense of scale in homeworld 3 is dialed up to 11 googols, to a point, where size and distance and inertia and speed obviously does not matter AT ALL anymore in any way, except for purely arbitrary constrains.
This is so incoherent, that it even makes DisneyWars look like shakespeare in comparison.
thats because of the scaling options, if you actually disable it the scale returns to normal (I literally did this in the first tutorial mission because it bothered me a considerable amount)
The only positives I've seen of this game are the graphics and the UI. I'm not really sure why they felt the need to even make another but here we are. Kind of crazy given how well they handled the remaster of 1 and 2 and how good Deserts of Kharak were.
the gameplay IMO is pretty good, though I have a few gripes with it. The roadmap they have proposed seems quite good with two new "factions" (remained to be seen on what that entails) by the end of the year, alongside new maps. If they actually deliver on that, homeworld 3 will have a fleshed out multiplayer experience for quite a long time, and with the modding support it will have quite a lot going for it.
However, if you want a deep and entertaining campaign story similar to HW1 or 2, look elsewhere.
The remaster of HW2 was fine, it was nice to get Heidi to record all the voice lines so there would be a consistent Fleet Command across both games. As for the remaster of 1, that was beyond terrible: just a port of the missions into the HW2 engine, sacrificing a lot on the way! Formations are completely broken, projectile simulation was swapped for RNG with a percentage chance to hit, there's no more fuel on strike craft (the gameplay mechanic the Kadeshi have an entire ship designed around), and they even broke visual things like turrets recoiling.
Why the heck are companies not capable of realizing that pouring millions into years of development to make an underwhelming game isn't going to make them the money they wanted? Yeah a bunch of people are past their refund windows now, but there's no way they're going to touch the DLC or anything else they put out after this nonsense.
I'm a diehard Homeworld fan; this meathook abortion of a game enrages me. The controls are miserable, the changes to playspeed is unforgivable, the UI is utter crap. There's nothing "Homeworld" about this game. It's a 3D modern version of Starcraft wearing a Homeworld skinsuit.
The original Homeworld was amazing. It was groundbreaking and had an awesome story to go with it. I am so sad to see what this has turned into.
Not to mention the devs are very "sensitive". I happened to mention "woke" in a post not even referring to their game or any person, and I got a permaban , yes, no warning, no comment deletion, permaban....just on that basis alone I de-wishlisted and will never buy.
It's a gearbox after all. See what they did with borderlands adventure.
I will not pay to get propagandized, I can get that for free. Plus, Denuvo? Zero chance I will buy any game that has it from any publisher.
@@charlesfranks1902 100%. Political propaganda, of any kind, has no place in video games. We have to reject it until they either stop or go broke.
@@Jackfromshackthis makes me feel much better about being banned.
I hope gearbox digs their own grave into bankruptcy.
Bunch of bigots
Well, I was kinda afraid of that when you said "homeworld 3 looks great" literally yesterday
This is the era of skin suit remakes
IT HAS DENUVO!!! 😠😡😠😡🤬
I wont buy anything with THAT!! ..... and they are deleting post if denuvo is mentioned
Its not that bad, you loose like 2 FPS lol
@@PuellaMagiHomuraAkemi How's that boot taste?
@@richardhunter9779
Like that im loosing 2 FPS and now? are you unable to watch comparisons on RUclips? Its not a big deal. 5-10 FPS if its really bad but thats rare.
It's wild how you'll hand out all your info to every data broker on the planet, then get uppity about Denuvo and Gearbox collecting the same data thats collected about you off all the platforms the game is sold on anyway lol
@@CaptainSkuzzy it's not just about handing your data over in this case though - there's a non-negligible performance impact which is further exacerbated in this game given how CPU-bound and poorly optimized it is (players are reporting nearly the same performance regardless of whether they're using 3060 or 4090).
they're probably gonna ditch Denuvo some months down the line though (there's a monthly cost in keeping it attached, and generally speaking only Ubisoft and EA are known to keep it indefinitely), and they're going to hail it as an 'optimization patch' lol.
Uggggg :( Yet another massive disappointment. I'm going to just stop getting exited entirely.
Can you game the ‘mission over’ issue by leaving an enemy ship alive while you gather and repair?
You shouldn't need to...
haha i used to do that in homeworld 2 :D
I was looking for an answer on why story went bonkers and I found it, essentially Gearbox provided their own writer for the project which is woke , ironically that person isn't even credited, but there is a whole article on Homeworld Universe with name Lyn Joice
Please be respectful and use the full title "Gearbox Managing Director of Narrative Writing Lin Joyce" :p
This is nothing more than a dead game and I will assume they will be a mass refund from the backers as far as I know because Gearbox's parent company is already losing money and are laying off employers as I am writing this. and worse, this is a punch in the face to the fans of Homeworld. This game was trash and there is a conspiracy going on that the story was consulted by Sweet Baby Inc which is a woke DEI consular for developers on making stories. if this is true, then this game in inherently woke. To the fans out there, Just get HW remastered set and Homeworld Cataclysm. the stories are alot better then this tripe.
They did have a consultancy but it was another woke one not SBi. Which did the damage.
When I saw the £50 price tag I was like hell naw it needs to be really good to get me to pay, so glad I’ve waited, next up sins of a solar empire 2
I knew there was something wrong with this game after watching the trailer. They changed the model of the main character to a person of color. I thought she was supposed to be a white woman originally. They also had a black guy in it and no white characters
Thanks for the info!. Was thinking about picking this up. $80-$90 for full package is expensive!. Will wait for a deep sale in a year or two.😉
Never support weasels. Never.
Great review.
I have been playing homeworld since i first saw it on the 1999 PC ZONE demo disc. Ive hundreds of hours in Homeworld 2 and played pretty much every mod. To say I have been excited for this game is a bit of an understatement. I Pre-Ordered the collecters edition the day it came out years ago.
When i completed a skirmish in 12 minutes I knew this was not Homeworld. The campaign was ok and the game is gorgeous, but its just a zerg rush and spam build.
I am hugely dissapointed but I have faith in modders.
What's online like?
6-8 hour campaign? I'm out.
I loved HMW 1/2 I especially love the Complex Mods. I am generally disappointed with how they presented this game. I hate the combat, build/production and especially the resource and AI pathing and Designs of ships and balancing.
Combat - You send blob of units that instantly get shredded just because (Incarnate Ships are just overall Better Ships)
- Bombers are good against Corvettes now and hardly a word about it in campaign, just "recommend using bombers". The game does not tell you enough information while overwhelming you with nonsense.
- Bombers have minimal affect on Frigate and Capital before just getting obliterated
- Hiigaran Interceptors, while good are just simply outclassed by the Incarnate
- Hiigaran Anti-Capital/Frigate are worthless.
- Hiigaran Destroyers are just awful full stop.
Design - Back in HMW2 you see these slick ships that are backing heavy artillery, but now in HMW3 you get brick with guns that is somehow really maneuverable to really big brick that is so slow you can measure it in ice ages.
Resources - You use to be able to build Resource collectors and Mobile Refineries, now that are just packed all into one. I understand "Quality of life" but this gave me agency to say "I want this asteroid cluster, and that one, but since this other one is highly contested i'll just leave it for the victor and move on" These controllers also need to be babysat as well because they cannot think and breath at the same time.
Build/Production - Oh my, long since the days of HMW2 where you could build squadrons and a fact of getting two carries up to help bolster fleet size in critical situations are over. In HMW1/2 you could, click on a carrier, its entire build screen comes up and you can order what you need, now you must, select the carrier > Menu Scroll at the top right of the screen to the specific production ship to build, build say a Strike Craft, watch it leave the carrier and immediately obliterated because as mentioned in the combat section.
Ai Pathing - is a joke when I tell my strike craft "Hey you are very damaged and i'd like to not spend 150 RUs to replace you, come back and repair the AI just says "No." and then blows up. I even had times when my squadrons just randomly blew up, nothing was around them, just "Bam! Gone another 150 RUs please"
Overall Design - The Devs decided to double down on the Homeworld: Deserts of Kharak design which is pretty bad all on its own and should have been a one off thing, but nope, bad design is bad design.
To my investigation, it came to Fruition, if you look at the special thanks part of the credits (assuming if you played the whole campaign), They hired two organizations
Center for Digital Media and Diversity in Games. CDM is based in Vancouver in BC Canada and are notorious for working along side with SBI. In other words, the game was influenced with DEI. Dont waste your money on this garbage game.
To my regret, the Homeworld franchise has completely deteriorated. If you do not take into account the graphics, then there is not a single bit of progress in it, there is only a regression, with a lot of absurdity. Now, in the space of Homeworld dunes lie and winds blow, the icebergs with the sea at their feet are floating and every asteroid or piece of debris is motionless, the Mothership can take off from the planet surface by means maneuverable engines, while the characters themselves have turned into feminists with black commanders - it all looks disgustingly stupid for Homeworld franchise. Yes, franchise have had unrealistic moments before, but now, the idiocy exceeded all limits several times. Probably the game was made only for brainless youngsters and now Homeworld has no respect for its old fans, who still played the first games in the 2000s, since the game has lost its original style of storytelling (no stylized black and white cutscenes). Instead of black and white movies, the player sees cartoons, copied from the material library of Disney Princess movies. Absolutely everything in the game - its plot, characters, gameplay, game mechanics, damage model, physics, ballistics, AI, performance - all this looks secondary. None of this looks revolutionary or ultra-modern. All ideas, events or unit designs are copied from previous games or other movies, like Star Wars and as a result, are implemented worse than the originals. Everything listed above (except for graphics) is no better than what was done 21 years ago! Some parts of the gameplay, such as the lack of hyperspace with inhibitors, subsystems on ships, lack shipyards, research modules, attackable engines/weapons, are a real shame. This game is not looks like Homeworld, this game shouldn't be called "Homeworld 3" - it's "Deserts Of Kharak v 2.0" because it looks the same flat, undeveloped, with feminist characters and other fashionable crap, from which the viewer is already sick. Conclusion is that: This game is made significantly worse than any previous game in the Homeworld series. This is a hoax, that was wrapped in a beautiful graphic wrapper. After 21 years of inactivity (when HW2 came out) this content looks like an epic failure. I would not advise anyone to buy this, at least in this condition...
The first review i am watching on the new shiny Homeworld. A game i adored for many many many Years.
I am kinda scared to watch this as i know Mack loves the original Homeworld so he will be brutally honest if this is yet another Bastardisation of the Franchise.
Seriously kinda anxious about clicking Play here guys had to pour myself a Brandy!!!
Trust me in this.Worth A buy gave this game 5\10 , the same score he gave to MGS5 which I love it ;].I think Homeworld 3 is easly 8\10.
Good that i didin't bought it i mean preordered it. i thought it could be good but this and the reviews on steam show me it's just another cash grab. Guess i try homeworld 2 remaster with complex for the first time. loved complex for the normal homeworld 2 before the remaster. i played all homeworld games even cataclysm backthen but more in skymish and against my brother backthen or together against ai. Never completed the story of them defently something i should do. but man sad that the third game sucks balls compared to their older counterparts. i'm not a fan of mobas and starcraft like gameplay. even if i enjoyed c&c 3 with tiberium essence mod.
I got banned from steam's HW3 forum for giving my opinion. The devs don't allow any freedom of speech and criticism. That's a no-go for me....on top of being a shit game
Yeah, sadly I was expecting it to be not good at all. I have seen some videos from other people when there was only a demo and they were dissapointed as well. I was really looking forward to HW3, hopefully Falling Frontier will be much better than this.
Change the economy where instead of paing money for games where companies decide to fuq the game up for a quick cash grab to make more profits. Somehow and some way they make income or some other kind of currency from the amount of engagement and peoples satisfaction and enjoyment while playing games. This way the games with the most passsion and soul rise to the top instead of quick cash grabs, also provides more reason to support a game for years intead of just making a sequel. This is just me throwing shit at the wall here, probably never going to happen, but do you see what im saying?
How can you judge this game without having finished the campaign.
I mean, you missed the most cringe-worthy opponent's even more cringey ending :)
Seems like it's catered to moba kids, dumbed down and everything, matches gotta be fast otherwise we might lose the attention span of the adhd kiddos.
Such a shame that they tarnished the homeworld name with this garbage.
edit: at 6:30 you also said the same, feels like a moba.
I feel like modded homeworld 2 was the most epic homeworld experience I've had.
I agree. The story in Homeworld 1 and to an extend Homeworld 2 was really good. But from what i have seen on this one... its bad...
and you have also Cataclysm's story that shows that you can take the setting on a completely different route and have it WORK too.
@@thorveim1174 i had totally forgotten about that. Thou i havent played it. I have seen a playthru of it. And the story in that is really good too.
This catering towards short attention span is driving me insane these days. Another game ruined because of that... The list getting huge guys. What should be huge is the maps and the scale of the battles in this game... But no the social media brainwashed average toddler gamer can't handle that anymore I guess !
Another souless game weeeeee! Thanks Mac.
Me personally I really like the game. I think the terrain is new and thought there are some holes but I would recommend it. But for the people who don’t like maby get it on a discount.
I'm a Homeworld fan, although not a die hard one. And hearing how this sequel turned out to be is heartbreaking.
At least it had DEI crap imbedded in the game.
It didnt though. If you know the universe, the main characters make sense to be who they are
@@Aves_1 doesnt make sense for them to be this butt-ugly though, another hallmark of DEI, as is the banning anyone mentioning the presence of DEI influence.
And while karan being a woman is already established (and naturally should stay as such), the current fleet command (which is just younger karan) and the main villain didnt need to be. Cataclysm already showed that you can have a homeworld game without fleet command beign a woman, and makaan showed its not a woman-only thing to plug oneself into a ship either. So no, out of Karan herself its not them just following the setting: thats a deliberate choice.
Cataclysm *cough* Emergence is still the best Homeworld then
One question, will you earn more via youtube Abo or patreon ? Thank you for a short info.
They are all pretty much equal tbh.
@@WorthABuyreviews Thank you, joined your channel.
As someone who's played every Homeworld game at release, this has NOTHING to do with any of them. It's a 3d space strategy game, that's it. Doesn't have the atmosphere, the writing, the tone and the gameplay of the original. Just like BG3. And even without the Homeworld name, it's mediocre at best.
BG3 is good tho
the way i sum it up: it's Deserts of Karak in space.Tied to homeworld and has a few homeworld vibes, but this is no true homeworld game.
Looks like they downgraded Homeworld into a AAA franchise. Sad to see..
I did the mistake of trying out the VR Homeworld game. It's even worse than this. Totally stripped down. There's not even a skirmish mode. You can only replay chapters of the story. And the AI in that version is brain dead.
The AI in every homeworld is brain dead, though.
@CaptainSkuzzy It's even worse due to the fact it has really low ship counts and the fact that ships can't exist outside a group. It's very streamlined.
been watching a bit of the campaign; they're not only holding your hand, they're literally dragging you along if you're docile, or otherwise just push you ahead anyways. the mostly soulless voice acting doesn't help either.
Major fan of the first Homeworld, played it and replayed it for years, still one of my favorite games ever. Second one was OK, pace was a bit high for me, but it was enjoyable. Was really looking forward to this one, sad to hear it hasn't lived up to the expectations.
Btw 4-6h campaign is beyond BS. That's how long some of the missions in the first one took to solve (they were hard) and complete.
I remember spending days thinking of the best strategy to complete some missions.
Thanks for helping me remove this game from my wishlist. Never played this series. Are 1-2 worth getting?
The first game is great.
You should watch MandaloreGaming's reviews of the Homeworld games to get a better idea of whether they're right for you.
@@hallu4696 mandalore gaming does really good work
Looks to me as the first game lol. This game was ok back in the day they had to let it rest in peace.
the most popular review about homeworld3 in Steam is:
"give me 20 years, I can make better game than BBI"😅
I'm just getting ready for Ghost of Tsushima on PC
Releases like this are the reason why I just don't buy games day one anymore. If you can't be bothered to deliver complete product, I can't be bothered to pay full price.
Shit game, tyhey destroyed it! Not a Homeworld RTS game.
It's sad, lots of reviewers agree with you.
No surprise -- Milking the Homeworld IP by sharting out a barebones, low effort sequel...isnt that 95% of the video game industry now? If they arent destroying a franchise by "reimagining" it for a modern audience...they are mining an IP & dropping full price turds, hoping the loyal fanbase will pay for any chance at some 'member berries. Not to mention - the developer of Homeworld has lost all its original talent & spiraled down the toilet. Blackbird interactive is now staffed by fragile, entitled children. They only work 4 days a week because their job was effecting their work/life balance. So -- this is what you get from people who work 20% less but get the same pay. Also, a bunch of the employees were laid off - cant imagine why. It all lead to Homeworld 3. Half the game -- all the price.
I begged the developers not to force a warp out at the end of missions.
This took 6-7 years
CD keys has 30-33% off for the game too.
I'm giving it a miss for the time being!
Bought mine for €35, it should be half that 😂
The pirates don’t get any version of the game, because nobody is cracking Denuvo anymore.
Yes unfortunately , Empress have gone into hiding after someone ratted him out , and other rumor is just as bad . Denuvo finally win ?
I had a feeling that this would be another letdown, after all the studios shat on their best franchises, why would this one be any different?
Sadly this is now becoming the norm
The only really 3D strategy RTS series, but it seems the Devs have a hard time catching up with the fame of their firstborn. The graphics seem to be much better, but it seems strategy hasn't developed much from the past.
Yeah. I mean the tragic thing is RTS is a stagnant genre because it's effectively been left to molder and rot since the mid 2000's when Halo 2 and Halo 3 broke open gaming to a mainstream market, and then Call of Duty 4 collectively transformed the industry to "play it safe" for 20 years straight. An example:
Between 2000 and 2012 a tremendous amount of change happened in gaming. Virtually nothing like what was coming out in early 2000's was coming out by late 2000's, and by 2012 was considered intolerably old to a lot of people and outdated. Dragon's Dogma came out in 2012. Dragon's Dogma 2 came out in 2024. Annnnnd they're basically identical games in all the ways that matter once you get past the visuals and the trappings of the setting; and play almost identically. Big studios like Gearbox are stagnant as fuck.
Are you going to check out the Valheim Ashlands update?
The removal of subsystem was the single dealbreaker for me. Boooo!
This year hasn’t been good for gaming so far.
Guess I'll buy this in a huge sale in a year or two.
Homeworld remasters and DOK is often on sale at around 5 euros on third-party websites.
Homeworld 3 campaign is slightly shorter than DOK's campaign which was the shortest.
Remaster includes HW 1 and 2 including the classic version+ has mod support too.
So it is a very great value.
Denuvo, strike 1. EULA strike 2. Auto skip to next level after objectives finished with no input from player, strike 3.
Seemingly DEI infested, strike 4
@@origami83 can remove the "seemingly". its is. If it wasnt they wouldnt be banning people for the mere mention of DEI elements
@@thorveim1174 I just heard the rumors and didnt check for myself so i used seemingly. But its unfortunate to say the least.
Keep these coming mack because this is another big game I wont be buying. Hopefully in time these companies will start to realise that unfinished poorly made games will not sell. Then, they might decide to put some effort into their products. Thank you for the video.
Keep these coming mack because this is another big game I wont be buying. Hopefully in time these companies will start to realise that unfinished poorly made gane will not sell. Then, they might decide to put some effort into their products. Thank you for the video.
Returns with a hyperspace fart.
I bought this on 20% sale on Steam, as a die-hard Homeworld veteran, I was hoping that I can like this game despite many bad reviews. I was curious and excited to see what I got after 20 years of waiting. I really wanted to love this game, but I couldn't. Graphics are nice, music is okay, real time ballistics looks cool, but that's all the positives. The story was like "what on earth I'm watching?" Playing through the campaign was painful, annoying and cringy, the cutscenes, characters and general storyline are a new low, the missions are short and too easy. The gameplay mechanics are oversimplified and buggy. It couldn't even be an "eh, it is okay" , decent space rts (especially without the story), but definetly not acceptable as a Homeworld sequel. So "my disappointment is immeasurable and my day is ruined"