Excellent! Steve Jordan knows, & this is an awesome *quick casual* lesson. I love how he illustrates the dotted-eighth vs. straights, and 2-stick ghosting. Very savvy & unusual, extremely musical! Dig up his work with Chuck Berry & Keith Richards to learn more by listening. I'll add 1 tidbit I learned from years of working with one of the best shuffle + funk drummers on the west coast. We called it push me / pull you; between bass & drums, typically have the (or a) beat/feel slightly ahead from the drummer, but slightly behind from the bass (or vice versa) - even just 1&3 vs. 2&4. The dancers don't know why, but they have to get on up! Makes me think of Mick Fleetwood & John McVie, especially in their early (blues band) days...
That was very cool demonstration! I'm not a drummer but as a songwriter/guitarist I get asked what kind of beat I want sometimes.. I'll try and basically show them if I can but sometimes all I can answer is,"Something that fits..".
A master's master. I love that at the start of the video everyone is chatting but by the end they've all shut up to hear the Gospel ! Top marks Carlito for capturing this essential lecture !
It bothers me to see (lots) of people talking about how Ringo's not a good drummer he's this he's that and the other - but the fact is if you don't think Ringo can play or isn't musical, you're not paying attention or you're deaf. If Steve Jordan says "Ringo is swinging his ass off" then that ought to be good enough for ANYONE out there and would make a lovely tattoo for any Ringo naysayer's right arm. Damn right. And when they replaced Steve with a white South African on Letterman back in the day - that band lost some magic. (no disrespect to Anton Fig intended there - he's a better musician than I'll ever be)
This is why the music lives. Like a musical ‘cardiologist,’ Steve holds the heart of the pulse close to his own and then shows us why it keeps beating. What a gift!
Mr. Jordan has given the best explanations of Rock N Roll and the groove I have heard to this date. Let's just say I remember The Beatles first appearance on the Ed Sullivan show. Steve is right on the money! "Word" Mr. Jordan! Made me stand up with my hands up in the air like I was in church and shout AMEN! Not to mention his bad ass playing. Thank you for sharing Mr. Mendoza.
my man, thatnk you for getting this on "tape" this is a lesson i can FEEL every day but didnt know how to explain it. this is expert level. wow. ive commented o nthis 100x its that important
Sometimes,it's the rythm guitar that played this thing beetween straight notes and swing notes.For instance,,on get your ya us out,on the two Chuck Berry numbers,the rythm guitar parts,played by Mick Taylor,are beetween binary and ternary.That's R'N'R
Well I looked it up I was mainly correct Palmer played on sessions Tutti Frutti , and a lot of his hits (L.Richard )I like the MerseyBeat comparison .. open hi hats . Best Mersey /Brit beat Drummer was Frank Farley of The Pirates he set the mold for the Bonhams and The Cozy powells and Ian Paices that were to follow .. except he was the best of em' all ! Ginger Baker honed it with Graham Bond Organization , and an honorable mention goes to Carlo Little of The Savages (Screamin Lord Sutch ) he also played for blues pioneer Cyril Davies .
***** Bakers main influences were from jazz , Blakey, Roach, Elvin Jones ... Brit Drummer Phil Seaman was another major influence on Baker .. The Brit drummers were listening to American, Blues and R&B Armand 'Jump' Jackson, Judge Riley , Earl Palmer ,Chuck Connors , Smokey Johnson (Fats Domino) Al Jackson , Fred Below , Francis Clay, Sam lay, etc .. The UK guys rocked it up a bit more and , viola ,we have The Mersey /Brit Rock style. I think the drummers needed to play louder in uk as there were no mikes on the kit at a pub/club venue so they developed the volume by hitting harder , and whackin' those open Hi Hats !!
Rock and roll became a fad sound among young blacks in 1948 and 1949, with backbeat from snare or handclaps or both -- e.g., "Rock That Boogie" Jimmy Smith, "Man Eater" Jay McNeely, "Jump And Shout" Erline "Rock And Roll" Harris (as she was publicly known in 1949), "Rock And Roll" Wild Bill Moore, "Rock The Joint" Chris Powell. Virtually everyone who played on '40s jump blues considered himself a jazz musician. In the late '40s, jazz had prestige among black musicians, whereas jump blues made money for black musicians. (Louis Jordan and some of his sidemen could play bebop, but so they could be successful, he would routinely ask his sidemen to play simply.) Virtually every drummer who was playing on the emerging rock and roll -- Earl Palmer played backbeat on Chubby Newsome's "New Orleans Man" in about January 1949, for instance -- considered himself a jazz drummer, and could play a backbeat, because that was something every jazz drummer knew how to do. Before rock and roll, and long before rock and roll, it was popular to do that for about eight bars for variety in jazz.
P.S. I told Earl Palmer I thought Little Richard wasn't really early with just about anything, and Earl agreed with me. Billy Wright recorded "Mean Old Wine" and Tommy Brown recorded "Atlanta Boogie" before Richard recorded anything, for instance.
Charles Chuck' Connor was Little Richards drummer as far as I remember .. Palmer may have done some sessions ? but Connors is the drummer I remember .. from Louisiana .. where else ?
Connors was Richards ROAD DRUMMER and played on a few hits like Keep a Knockin but Earl Palmer played on the majority of Richards hits recorded at Cosimo Mattassa Studio called Jand M in New Orleans and later in Los Angeles when Earl moved west in the late 50's.Charles was a fabulous drummer and can be seen in the early rock and roll movies with Richard
roughtake I Saw the Girl Can't Help It when it came out ..must have been 57/58 .I was 10 . I know a bit about R&B and the early days of rock and Roll. especially New Orleans music,having backed Dr John , and The late Coco Robicheaux, I have also backed Del Shannon , Bo Diddley , Rufus Thomas , Solomon Burke, Brit Rockers Billy J Kramer, Paul Jones (Manfred Mann ) and Dave (The Crying Game )Berry and opened for the likes of Big Twist and The Mellow Fellows . Albert Collins Koko Taylor, Los Lobos John Mayall and countless others.You tend to gain knowledge when you dedicate your life to this music . I am aware of Connors Roadwork and Richards Road Band The Upsetters .. and yes Connors could kick it with the best of em' .. My original post was from memory and time erases info from your head ,Palmer not only recorded most of Richards hits he was the busiest session drummer on the West Coast along with Hal Blaine ! You name it he recorded it ! everything from B . Bumble to Frank sinatra , amazing .
I'm a drummer too David and love your response. Any relation to the late James Booker. Yeah Charles and the Upsetters were one of the greatest R and B bands ever.I think Lee Allen 9RIP) did a lot of shows back in the early 60's with the Upsetters. Loved Grady gaines.I was checking my discography on richards sessions and Charles played on some of my favorites like Lucille ,She's got it ooh my Soul and of couse his signature opening riff on Keep a knockin will NEVER be equaled.Man you backed up some great ones Solomon being at the top of the list but all are favorites.You take care and keep that BIG BEAT going
and yeah my favorites are Earl and Hal on the West Coast, Al Jackson in memphis, Benny and Pistol allen in Detroit. Too Many to mention but my favorites were always the studio cats.
roughtake Well I remember now .. years ago I opened for the Blasters , and guess what .. Lee Allen was touring with them !! I hung out all night with Phil Alvin and Lee Allen !! . never thought to bring a camera .. Durr . ! Speakin of Richard , we cannot forget Billy Wright , and Esquerita ..big influences on him .. and also Otis and James Brown said Richard was THEIR main influence , and so it goes .. Yes Drummers Al Jackson-THE MAN .. All The Motown drummers Pistol et al, for the Chicago Shuffle it has to be SP.Leary , Sam Lay, Fred Below Willie Big Eyes Smith , Billy Stepney, Francis Clay all gone except for Sam I believe ..thanks for your kind words . www.davidbooker.com got to get to a gig .. very Best .. DB
Dude this is a MEGA important video, so glad you captured it for the world to see. Long live Steve Jordan!
In my opinion, this is the greatest rock drum video ever made. Period. Seriously. No more be said,
"It's not Rock and Drop, It's Rock and Roll!" His whole explanation is perfect. But that line's an instant classic.
Man it was such a great moment. I'm so glad I was able to be there, capture it and share it with everyone. Steve is a bad boy!!
Steve Jordan explanation of Rock 'N' Roll. Listen to the knowledge being spread! Enjoy!
That's a great lesson from a great historian. Thanks for the share.
Thanks for sharing. Really thank you😭😭😭
I think i gotta pay for it😂😂
Excellent! Steve Jordan knows, & this is an awesome *quick casual* lesson. I love how he illustrates the dotted-eighth vs. straights, and 2-stick ghosting. Very savvy & unusual, extremely musical! Dig up his work with Chuck Berry & Keith Richards to learn more by listening.
I'll add 1 tidbit I learned from years of working with one of the best shuffle + funk drummers on the west coast. We called it push me / pull you; between bass & drums, typically have the (or a) beat/feel slightly ahead from the drummer, but slightly behind from the bass (or vice versa) - even just 1&3 vs. 2&4. The dancers don't know why, but they have to get on up! Makes me think of Mick Fleetwood & John McVie, especially in their early (blues band) days...
I feel like I should pay a fee for what I just learned.
You can always go to www.carlitomendoza.com and grab a lesson ;)
Juan Carlos Mendoza Touche
That was very cool demonstration! I'm not a drummer but as a songwriter/guitarist I get asked what kind of beat I want sometimes.. I'll try and basically show them if I can but sometimes all I can answer is,"Something that fits..".
A master's master. I love that at the start of the video everyone is chatting but by the end they've all shut up to hear the Gospel ! Top marks Carlito for capturing this essential lecture !
Steve is a big favourite of mine . Love him referencing Ringo . People who know , know .
It bothers me to see (lots) of people talking about how Ringo's not a good drummer he's this he's that and the other - but the fact is if you don't think Ringo can play or isn't musical, you're not paying attention or you're deaf. If Steve Jordan says "Ringo is swinging his ass off" then that ought to be good enough for ANYONE out there and would make a lovely tattoo for any Ringo naysayer's right arm. Damn right. And when they replaced Steve with a white South African on Letterman back in the day - that band lost some magic. (no disrespect to Anton Fig intended there - he's a better musician than I'll ever be)
Protect this man at all cost. RESPECT!
This is why the music lives. Like a musical ‘cardiologist,’ Steve holds the heart of the pulse close to his own and then shows us why it keeps beating. What a gift!
That snare sounds fucking amazing... and everything Steve Jordan plays feels so good
this is the most important video I have ever watched in my entire life
Imagine how I felt when I was recording it. Life changing
Mr. Jordan has given the best explanations of Rock N Roll and the groove I have heard to this date. Let's just say I remember The Beatles first appearance on the Ed Sullivan show. Steve is right on the money! "Word" Mr. Jordan! Made me stand up with my hands up in the air like I was in church and shout AMEN! Not to mention his bad ass playing. Thank you for sharing Mr. Mendoza.
This ripped open my brain and connected so many dots. Dotted dot dots. Seriously, swing makes so much more sense to me now.
Right?!!!
Fantastic!!! He's a big fan of Ringo...."Ringo's swinging his ass off!!!"
Earl Palmer's disciple! Awesome and so true!
“That’s the roll in the rock and roll.” 👏
Immaculately hip! The late great RAY TORRES preached the same message. Thanks, Juan, for sharing this vid.
That r'n'r definition is one of the greatest things I've ever heard.
Absolutely great
my man, thatnk you for getting this on "tape" this is a lesson i can FEEL every day but didnt know how to explain it. this is expert level. wow. ive commented o nthis 100x its that important
Brilliant stuff
If Charlie Watts calls on you to cover for him, you got it down.
I was there! Incredible seeing him walk through the door.
thank for this video.
steve jordan is super!!!!
What he said. Thank you.
Thanks for sharing that Carlito! I feel privileged getting to observe Steve Jordon speak. You too are a fantastic drummer, love your vids
+inthapocket〉 Wasn't that awesome? Thanks for your awesome words my man! Really appreciate it!
I think this is one of the most important videos on music ever. ❤️
Facts 💯
Steve Jordan has spoken! No but seriously this guys is the man.
Love it!!! Thank you, Steve!!
happy valentine, steve jordan! i do love you!
Wow , great explanation
Amazing musician, amazing lesson! :-)
Hey Steve how's you hangin' ?
Not Steve's video, but if he does reply that would be rad!
Sometimes,it's the rythm guitar that played this thing beetween straight notes and swing notes.For instance,,on get your ya us out,on the two Chuck Berry numbers,the rythm guitar parts,played by Mick Taylor,are beetween binary and ternary.That's R'N'R
HAPPENING DUDE PERIOD....
Malcolm Young said something similar in one of his interviews.
Great drummer ! Friendly Mr.Steve !
didier d'agostino He's the man!
gotta love steve. thanks
Preach!
1:28 master
Absolutely
The swing/shuffle combined with straight rythm. Listen to jailhouse rock with Presley. The drums shuffle while the guitar is straight.
Hahaha this was so good!
Yep.
We all just got schooled ! gota love Steve Jordan..
I love watching his mouth when he plays!
lession n1, ty again stevie
Well I looked it up I was mainly correct Palmer played on sessions Tutti Frutti , and a lot of his hits (L.Richard )I like the MerseyBeat comparison .. open hi hats . Best Mersey /Brit beat Drummer was Frank Farley of The Pirates he set the mold for the Bonhams and The Cozy powells and Ian Paices that were to follow .. except he was the best of em' all ! Ginger Baker honed it with Graham Bond Organization , and an honorable mention goes to Carlo Little of The Savages (Screamin Lord Sutch ) he also played for blues pioneer Cyril Davies .
***** Bakers main influences were from jazz , Blakey, Roach, Elvin Jones ... Brit Drummer Phil Seaman was another major influence on Baker .. The Brit drummers were listening to American, Blues and R&B Armand 'Jump' Jackson, Judge Riley , Earl Palmer ,Chuck Connors , Smokey Johnson (Fats Domino) Al Jackson , Fred Below , Francis Clay, Sam lay, etc .. The UK guys rocked it up a bit more and , viola ,we have The Mersey /Brit Rock style. I think the drummers needed to play louder in uk as there were no mikes on the kit at a pub/club venue so they developed the volume by hitting harder , and whackin' those open Hi Hats !!
***** Frank Farley was NOT influenced by Jazz thats for sure ..
Rock and roll became a fad sound among young blacks in 1948 and 1949, with backbeat from snare or handclaps or both -- e.g., "Rock That Boogie" Jimmy Smith, "Man Eater" Jay McNeely, "Jump And Shout" Erline "Rock And Roll" Harris (as she was publicly known in 1949), "Rock And Roll" Wild Bill Moore, "Rock The Joint" Chris Powell. Virtually everyone who played on '40s jump blues considered himself a jazz musician. In the late '40s, jazz had prestige among black musicians, whereas jump blues made money for black musicians. (Louis Jordan and some of his sidemen could play bebop, but so they could be successful, he would routinely ask his sidemen to play simply.) Virtually every drummer who was playing on the emerging rock and roll -- Earl Palmer played backbeat on Chubby Newsome's "New Orleans Man" in about January 1949, for instance -- considered himself a jazz drummer, and could play a backbeat, because that was something every jazz drummer knew how to do. Before rock and roll, and long before rock and roll, it was popular to do that for about eight bars for variety in jazz.
P.S. I told Earl Palmer I thought Little Richard wasn't really early with just about anything, and Earl agreed with me. Billy Wright recorded "Mean Old Wine" and Tommy Brown recorded "Atlanta Boogie" before Richard recorded anything, for instance.
❤❤❤
Steve is the man!
Charles Chuck' Connor was Little Richards drummer as far as I remember .. Palmer may have done some sessions ? but Connors is the drummer I remember .. from Louisiana .. where else ?
Connors was Richards ROAD DRUMMER and played on a few hits like Keep a Knockin but Earl Palmer played on the majority of Richards hits recorded at Cosimo Mattassa Studio called Jand M in New Orleans and later in Los Angeles when Earl moved west in the late 50's.Charles was a fabulous drummer and can be seen in the early rock and roll movies with Richard
roughtake I Saw the Girl Can't Help It when it came out ..must have been 57/58 .I was 10 . I know a bit about R&B and the early days of rock and Roll. especially New Orleans music,having backed Dr John , and The late Coco Robicheaux, I have also backed Del Shannon , Bo Diddley , Rufus Thomas , Solomon Burke, Brit Rockers Billy J Kramer, Paul Jones (Manfred Mann ) and Dave (The Crying Game )Berry and opened for the likes of Big Twist and The Mellow Fellows . Albert Collins Koko Taylor, Los Lobos John Mayall and countless others.You tend to gain knowledge when you dedicate your life to this music . I am aware of Connors Roadwork and Richards Road Band The Upsetters .. and yes Connors could kick it with the best of em' .. My original post was from memory and time erases info from your head ,Palmer not only recorded most of Richards hits he was the busiest session drummer on the West Coast along with Hal Blaine ! You name it he recorded it ! everything from B . Bumble to Frank sinatra , amazing .
I'm a drummer too David and love your response. Any relation to the late James Booker. Yeah Charles and the Upsetters were one of the greatest R and B bands ever.I think Lee Allen 9RIP) did a lot of shows back in the early 60's with the Upsetters. Loved Grady gaines.I was checking my discography on richards sessions and Charles played on some of my favorites like Lucille ,She's got it ooh my Soul and of couse his signature opening riff on Keep a knockin will NEVER be equaled.Man you backed up some great ones Solomon being at the top of the list but all are favorites.You take care and keep that BIG BEAT going
and yeah my favorites are Earl and Hal on the West Coast, Al Jackson in memphis, Benny and Pistol allen in Detroit. Too Many to mention but my favorites were always the studio cats.
roughtake Well I remember now .. years ago I opened for the Blasters , and guess what .. Lee Allen was touring with them !! I hung out all night with Phil Alvin and Lee Allen !! . never thought to bring a camera .. Durr . ! Speakin of Richard , we cannot forget Billy Wright , and Esquerita ..big influences on him .. and also Otis and James Brown said Richard was THEIR main influence , and so it goes .. Yes Drummers Al Jackson-THE MAN .. All The Motown drummers Pistol et al, for the Chicago Shuffle it has to be SP.Leary , Sam Lay, Fred Below Willie Big Eyes Smith , Billy Stepney, Francis Clay all gone except for Sam I believe ..thanks for your kind words . www.davidbooker.com got to get to a gig .. very Best .. DB
Say it!
Well said Steve. Huge influence on tone and pocket.
thats it
Not sure about those closed captions. So many wrong words.
Yeah that's RUclips's I guess automatic settings. I didn't put that up lol.
Looks like that dude from star trek.
Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay.
how is he so cool? man i need a better jacket and shades. i need better feel too. fuck.
:3
that Instagram page did you dirty bro
All good man! I was there so I have a different perspective, plus hearing it live literally 3 feet away from me was awesome haha!