My XI - Geoffrey Boycott: Sydney Barnes - 'Probably the greatest bowler of all time'
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- Опубликовано: 8 сен 2024
- Geoffrey Boycott on his eleven favourite bowlers. Part one: Geoff Boycott picks the versatile and wilful England bowler Sydney Barnes as the first of his 11 favourite bowlers, in a new series
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6 runs per wicket??? Got to be the greatest ever.
Stephen Reeds 16.43 per wicket
That's his Test average not his career average.
@@BollywoodMemories4ever bro he played when batsmen were there in a white suit without safeguards for their balls, haha. Wasim Akram and Waqar Younis are the two greatest right handed and left handed bowlers of all time.
but that was against second division teams.he has a fc avg of 17 in fc cricket.
to be honest, you cannot calll bowlersof the early 20th century as the greatest of all time. cricket was not even developed. proper cricket was played from the 60s and 70s onwards. that is when fast bowlers actually came about.
also, some of the pitches in the early 20th century can be considered to be too difficult for batting and that is why some of the bowlers have extraordinary stats.
How long back? Would prob be smashed now
S F Barnes is the greatest, to get all those wkts at under 17 runs, whilst ONLY playing SA and Australia is phenomenal, no easy series like Bangladesh or WI to play in. Well said Geoff !
WI "easy" Lol
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People who come and b9tch about blah and blah should realise one thing - his contemporaries had exactly the same pitches, teams, circumstances to deal with and he was almost twice as good as them. Just like Bradman had exactly the same circumstances as his contemporaries but his average was almost twice as good as the rest. That means these guys were simply exceptional, and people who are exceptional in 1 era generally tend to be exceptional in all eras
Yes Sir Sydney Barnes is greatest Bowler of all time ...
27 Tests, 24 fivefers, 7 tenfers... and an average closer to 16 than 17. Utterly phenomenal.
In his later years in the professional leagues, I understand batting sides routinely had the next four men padded up when Barnes was bowling.
IIRC, Wilfred Rhodes, talking about the next generation of bowlers, said "The best of them is half as good as Barney". He meant that as a *compliment* to the players he was talking about.
*Pace* Sir Geoffrey, most articles I've read about Barnes say that he bowled fast leg-breaks, not cutters. He could get some swing from a new ball but ball-polishing and so on was less common back then so most of the movement he got was through spin. He once rolled over Australia's top order on a perfect batting wicket in Melbourne, and he enjoyed himself very much playing on matting in South Africa.
What about Jeorge Lohmann ?
@@adyapadapattnaik2896 Yes, a still lower average, and nearly as many wickets per Test as Barnes. And he was ill for several years of his career, too!
A ten-for more often than one per four matches is like Bradman's record of hitting a hundred every other match of his career (and more often in Tests).
@@douglasporter3865 he was also an allrounder and good sleep catcher.
Treat to ears hearing this man´s voice. His voice and accent is everything. He belongs to the 2nd or 3rd last generation of actually great charismatic cricketers. I am 22 years old. RIP cricket since 2007-08. After that cricket started to be played by boys and not men. Yes, I am old school. The real world.
After 2011, cricket died thanks to T20 cricket and money
He is destroying Bollywood now🤣🤣🤣🤣
The scary thing is, that Barnes only played against the top-tier teams.
Imagine against minnows like Bangladesh and Zimbabwe? His record would be even more impressive.
That's really messed up. The Australian cricket team in 1900 would have been no better than a 2023 rep side from the Gold Coast or any other regional city outside of the state capitals ... at best. The exception is Victor Trumper, and I am not at all aware that Barnes dominated HIM in any way.
@@Bernie8330 You wish mate
Or India 😀
@@theyaduvanshiindian391 Of course, you can't compare eras which is precisely why you cannot possibly say Bradman was indisputably the greatest.
@@Bernie8330 But in Barnes' era, he had twice as many wickets as anyone else!
Barnes and Bradman stand alone. Because there's no-one near them.
Best bowler, and batsman, ever. That's it. There's no argument.
SF Barnes would shoot daggers at you, Sir Geoffrey, for calling him a cutter. He himself insisted he was never a cutter, but a leg-spinner - he;d have been a fast-medium spinner at that.
I agree with most of the comments, Sidney Barnes must've been an extraordinary bowler to have been able to take wickets at such a low runs per wicket Wish there were videos of this great bowler. I grew up watching Sunny Gavaskar, Malcolm Marshall, Wasim Akram and Michael Holding . Sunny remains the best technical batsman I've ever soon. Still head, back and across movement, never wore a helmet, never got hurt. Fearless and fiery, he was geometrically perfect and extremely hard to dismiss.
Wasim Akram remains the most mystifying left armer I've had the pleasure of watching. Wasim was magical he could do things with both the new and the old ball that would make your jaw drop . He was also pretty quick, pace in the mid 140's when he was younger and had a unique run-up and action . My vote for the best bowler of all time would be Malcolm Marshall . Marshall was deceptively fast, front chested and almost bowled off the wrong foot. But boy oh boy he was devastatingly quick with skiddish pace,had this ability to swing and seam the ball both both ways as it got older with the same waspish pace. 375 wickets when you're sharing the ball with Holding, Roberts, Croft, Garner and the likes remains testimony to his everlasting greatness
Marshall for me was the best of the famous West Indian bowlers and a true great but he was definitely helped by the really slow over rates and the reluctance of umpires to call the bowlers for intimidatory bowling.
I can only imagine it must have been like facing Warne or Muralitharan but bowling at 75 - 80 mph.. basically impossible to play.
He took almost twice as many Test wickets as any other bowler during his playing career span! That's nuts
2.36 economy !!
logic as " the standard has gone up now , in every aspect " dosent work , at all . Because it still means they were better than their whole generation , which is awe-inspiring in itself . Why couldnt others replicate 99.94 or 189 wkts in 27 tests , if the standard was ordinary ?
Barnes would be the first bowler I would pick.,to open with Ambrose.I notice he mentions A K Davidson he is another great bowler forgotten about.
Kevin get over with same comment on every cricket group. Yes we get it Barnes marshal Murali and warne are your top 4 choices but what else you have to say!!
Have a look at AK Davidson's bowling average which was over a ten year period. He bowled one end all day in Kanpur on a gruelling tour of India. His career was against the great players such as Sobers, Hutton, Barrington, Cowdrey, Kanhai etc. The rest of his time was spent saving Australia with the bat on numerous occasions. The first player to get 10 wickets and score 100 runs in a Test Match. In his first game for an Australian 2nd X1 he got all 10 wickets and scored 156 not out. Some player
To anyone trying to imagine what these type of bowlers were like, the modern bowler who is most similar is probably Mustafizur. Essentially 80mph cutters or ‘spin’. Heavily depended on the type of surface, and on the uncovered pitches of his era almost unplayable.
He never swung the ball.It was actually drifting of the ball in then spinning away. Just like Shane Warne's ball of the century but with great pace
I read about his statistics in MCC special issue in Sportstar in 1987. About Bradman and Barnes. The records were amazing : top bowlers, top batsmen. All there.
Quickish cutter ...but when Mr. boycott says...it's kwikishhh kootter...😂
Golden Oldies! Nice to know about them.
Greatest bowlers: Barnes. Marshall, Muralitharan, Lillee, McGrath, Ambrose, Warne, Trueman, Hadlee, Wasim, Steyn, Garner, Holding, Lindwall, Laker, O'Reilly, Donald, Waqar, Walsh, Davidson, Roberts, Bedser..(Indian strength has been more in the batting)
Not waqar
Waqar was erratic amd easy picking for batsman
Swan has a better record than Jim Laker
Never understood the logic of selecting players you never saw play. No doubt a good player, but...
Always tell a great fast bowler....he does not get whacked often....good on all surfaces.....best all round bowler of all time.... Malcolm Marshall.
I would have both Barnes and Marshall in my all-time XI :)
Didnt realize all time meant players youve seen play. Who else has a bowling average of less than 22 let alone 16
@@212mochaman Marshall, Garner, Davidson, Trueman, McGrath, Laker and a few more averaged less than 22 in their career.
Imran Khan in early 80s took 151 wickets in 27 matches at an average of 15. Now how good is this ?
Muralitharan in his purple patch in 2003-2006, picked over 200 wickets in 27 matches at an average of 18.
There are few more such instances of great as Barnes performance in 20-25 test match period that too in modern conditions without those uncovered wickets.
Barnes was undoubtedly the greatest of his time but we should give recent players their due credit.
For me, and the most, Marshall, McGrath, Akram, Warne, Murali and Hadlee are the finest bowlers ever with Marshall being the first among equals.
Best that you have seen maybe, doesn't make him the best of all time.
All Hail Sir Syndey Barnes
He was his own man. A Staffordshire hero. I think he played when he was 90! A one off.
As a right arm medium pacer if you bowl 4 sharp leg cutters pitching on a good length middle and off from wide of the crease over the wicket to a right hander he is unlikely to connect. If the 5th one straightens up he is probably gone. Like Bradman had the skill to repeatedly play those run scoring shots over a long time and match after match Syd Barnes could bowl accurate leg cutters for a long time and match after match. In videos they may not look great but surely they would have excited millions of supporters and deeply scared oppositions and millions of opposition supporters.
Jack Hobbs/Lan Hutton
Herbert Suitcliffe/Sunil Gavaskar
Wally Hammond
Donald Bradman
Steve Smith/Vivian Richards
Kumara Sangakkara/Adam Gilkhrist
Garfield Sobers/Jacques Kallis
George Lohmann
Sydney Barnes
Shane Warne/Muttiyah Muralitharan
Joel Garner/Malcomm Marshall/Curtly Ambrose/Allan Davidson
You forgot barry richards probably thw best opening batsman ever
@@str8ryder007 ok i didn't know. He played so many first class but only 4 international!!
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My all time test team
Godfrey Bayclit
Blueberry Chisum
Bunty Willyflop
Arthur Robust
Clangy Ladyhips
Colonel Sandals (c)
Burr Lington
Twanger Mishap
David Flower
Mike Batting
Stumpy Clumper
Subs Neil Down and Phil Micock
Why does no one copy his techniques? Surely bowling spinning deliveries at fast medium pace could still be effective today?
Covered pitches.
Learie Constantine, one of the all time greats of West Indian cricket and a truly flamboyant batsman met Barnes in a league match in the late twenties. Constantine did not dare play an attacking stroke and defended resolutely whilst Barnes bowled. The contest was watched by C.L.R. James, the great West Indian author and cricket correspondent, who reported on the game. He stated that while Barnes was playing, his side was winning. He concluded that he had witnessed something pretty special. Constantine was at his peak, late twenties. Barnes was in his sixties.
Kumble was fast. Look how many wickets he got
It seems that no-one could bowl it quite like Barnes. Swing bowling became the fashion for pacemen, a much easier and lazier way to obtain movement in the air. Barnes never resorted to that. I hope someone rediscovers the technique. I believe the Barnes ball was a genuine leg break at medium pace with heavy topspin from descriptions given by batsmen.
@@squirrelpatrick3670, I once read a book with a chapter on SF Barnes. The great man used to bowl leg-spin and off spin. The leg-spin used to drift in just like a normal leg spinner and then spin away from the right-hander just like a conventional leg spinner and the off-spin would curve away from the right-hander and then spin into the batsman just like any conventional off-spinner. The main difference between SF Barnes and the conventional spinners is he was doing it at fast-medium rather than at a slow conventional pace. Some of the deliveries would just drift in and some would grip and spin which would present problems for batsmen as you didn't know if the delivery would continue with the drift or would grip and actually spin. Someone should dig up the old books and learn his techniques. There is no reason why this form of bowling couldn't be a devasting weapon against batsmen not used to such deliveries.
1. Sunil Gavaskar
2. Jack Hobbs
3. Don Bradman
4. Sachin Tendulkar
5. Viv Richards/Allan Border/Steve Waugh/AB de Villiers
6. Gary Sobers
7. Adam Gilchrist
8. Richard Hadlee
9. Malcolm Marshall
10. Shane Warne
11. Sydney Barnes
This would be my all time test team.
jeff ...... u don't know "bhuvan" from Lagaan .......U will change your mind had u known him :)
He knew his own value.
Boycott explains history and context better than anyone.
why dislike this video ???
dear sir, i could not find you, will u be kind enough to send me a link of your name etc... it will be most interesting...
Uncovered pitches
The Greatest #XI of All Time
1 Jack Hobbs
2 Len Hutton
3 Don Bradman (Cap.)
4 Sachin Tendulkar
5 Viv Richards
6 Gary Sobers
7 Alan Knott (W/K)
8 Shane Warne
9 Wasim Akram
10 Malcolm Marshall
11 Dennis Lillee
12th : W.G Grace.
Substitutes:
( George Headley , Brian Lara , Imran Khan , Muttiah Muralitharan , Sydney Barnes )
Manager :- Sir Frank Worrell .
My Above XI is Probably the Most Accurate All Time XI List in Cricket History which is Co-incidentally the Mixer of WISDEN and ESPN Cricinfo All Time XI List.
It's a Full 16 Man Squad and I have Deservingly put Two Proper Openers Hobbs and Hutton As they have a Great Records everywhere and seemingly Great Chemistry and Connection within them as they played mostly after post WW1 Era from 1920 onwards with much better Competitiveness and in a Developing Test Cricket era compared to 18th or 19th Century Cricket.
And I have Top 6 Strong Batting Line up so I went with a Specialist Wicket Keeper Alan Knott ahead of Wicket Keeper Batsman Adam Gilchrist who unfortunately Missed out due to I have a Strong top 6 Batting order as well as Strong tail enders too like Warne , Akram and Marshall who all can Bat also. So I went with a Specialist Wicket Keeper with a descent batting record, so I went with Alan Knott.
Then I have a 1 Great All Rounder Sir Garfield Sobers who is the Great Left Handed Batsman and can bowl three different variations Bowling and 1 Great Spinner Shane Warne So he would have a Great Right hand - Left Hand and Leg Spin / Off Spin Combinations with Gary Sobers.
And at Last I have deservingly Put 3 Genuine Fast and Complete Bowlers Akram , Marshall and Lillee as 3 Pace Bowlers with Great Statistic Records among them who all also played in The Most Golden , Toughest and Competitive Era of Test Cricket From 1970 to 2000 Era.
W.G Grace as the 12th Man who was an All Rounder and a Father Figure Cultural Icon of Cricket and Sir Frank Worrell is The Best Manager the Game has ever seen who can Guide your Team and Bring out the best from above players.
P.S. - Steven Smith , Virat Kohli and Pat Cummins are Active Players. So I will Judge them after they will retire, so we can get the clear picture of their Overall career.
Shane Warne is the Greatest Bowler of All Time follow by Sydney Barnes , Wasim Akram , Malcolm Marshall and Dennis Lillee.
Sydney Barnes was more of a Spinner so that's why I didn't pick him in my above all time Xi as I already have two spinners Warne and Sobers who was more of a Spinner than pacer so i went with 3 Genuine Quick and Complete Bowlers like Akram , Marshall and Lillee.
And Headley and Lara are as Reserved or Bench. And Imran and Muralitharan as Honourable All Rounder and Spinners as an optional in Substitutes.
I can pick Wasim and Marshall for play in any given era due to their Varieties and different Technic and dimensions with the ball which could prove equally lethal on flat as well as bad pitches so that's why I didn't chose McGrath or Steyn who are more of a one dimensional and predictable bowlers against any smart batsman could play amazingly.. though McGrath be Successful in every Era too but not sure about Steyn. But they all are an All time greats and could find place in greatest performer or Better Player + Better Performer overall all time Xi lists which might be even better achievement which most of the cricket expert overlook as they mostly rate and made Nuetral and acceptable all time xi considering beauty , completeness and overall statistics but still the players on wisden and Cricinfo All Time XI still not gurantee you that they could fared and win every or most of the matches around the world.
Your second go at it was a way better team, hadn't seen that before my earlier comment. Still think you need to look at Herbert Sutcliffe as a potential opener, Highest average of any opening batsman in test history.
@@Billie0708 Shane Warne being the greatest is a joke considering Murali was so much better than him. Look at his stats and average in ODIs
whats ur name. i dont doubt u, as even richi beanud says that... so i quess he must have a point as i tend to agree with im always not nearly always.
AGREE..........HE WAS V GOOD.
The Greatest All Time XI: From the Realms of Immortality
1 Jack Hobbs
2 W.G Grace
3 Don Bradman (C.)
4 Sachin Tendulkar
5 Viv Richards
6 Gary Sobers
7 Adam Gilchrist (W.)
8 Shane Warne
9 Wasim Akram
10 Dennis Lillee
11 Sydney Barnes
12th: Imran Khan.
Substitutes:
( Victor Trumper , Brian Lara , Richie Benaud , Muttiah Muralitharan , Malcolm Marshall )
Manager :- Sir Frank Worrell .
Alan Knott was a far superior keeper to Gilchrist.
Adam was definately better with the bat but when you have a batting line up like that I would suggest you go for the better keeper. Knott although not as good with the bat did score 5 centuries and at least 30 half centuries in around 90 tests averaging over 30 so he was more than useful at no 7 and a great crisis batsman.
Rodney Marsh fairly recently said "Knott was the best keeper he's ever seen by far" coming from a top tier glove man and Aussie at that I think his opinion is cerainly one that should count for plenty.
WG Grace? Not sure about that one at the expense of so many great openers. Herbert Sutcliffe average over 60 in tests, Gordon Greenidge, Sunny Gavaskar, Len Hutton, Barry Richards and even Geoff Boycott were obviously all far superior batsmen.
@@markhiggins8315 above Xi is not only based on Statistical Achievements but also how particular player has change the Game thought their Artistry , Effectiveness , As an Influential Figure and as a Historical Impact on the Game. And Grace and Gilchrist has change the Game.
Grace was the First Cricketting Superstar and Father Figure of Culture Icon of Cricket who played in a bowling friendly era and he was by far the best batsman of his era. and Gilchrist has Change the Game through his Revolutionary , Dynamic and Game Changing Batting and Entertaining and Athletic Keeping. and change the Perception on how WKB are perceived and he paved the way for the Guy like Rishsbh pant , Jos Buttler and Etc..
And Gilchrist was Great keeper too who kept one of the Greatest Australian Attacks in History like Warne , Mcgrath , Lee , Gillespie , McGill , Johnson , Bracken and Etc and achieve success against all of them with outstanding keeping record which is the most By any wicket keeper in History along with his ODI Formats Numbers too which shows his Adaptability and Versatility in the Game.
So that's why Grace and Gilchrist are there..
@@Billie0708 Don't get me wrong Gilchrist was a fine keeper and a incredible all rounder in terms of his batting so I can perfectly understand the choice.
As I mentioned personally I'd go for the best keeper, which I believe was Knott who although clearly not as good a batsman was certainly more than usefull and his selection considering the ballance and batting strength of the team would be my option.
There were other keepers historically that could bat, Les Ames was an excellent batsman but not in Knott's class as a keeper or come to that Gilchtrist's. Knott was historically significant as he was the first great keeper that could bat well making him the template for the modern keeper batsman. Unfortunately I think that the emphasis has at times gone too far in terms of having batsmen/wicketkeepers which to be fair isn't a critism of Adam because he was an outstanding glove man.
@@Billie0708 As for WG, he was a giant in terms of historical significance and clearly a very fine player but I would have difficulty selecting a player that is so hard to evaluate in terms of his effectiveness in comparison to the other greats.
Well KJ's at 13 atm so....
how old are u ? ur on u tube.
learnt New word miffed
My XI (some players may be slightly out of position)
1. Sachin Tendulkar
2. Kumar Sangakkara
3. Sir Don Bradman (c)
4. Sir Viv Richards
5. Brian Lara
6. Sir Garfield Sobers
7. Alan Knott (WK)
8. Shane Warne
9. Malcolm Marshall
10. Glenn McGrath
11. Sydney Barnes
MY XI
1.Hayden
2.Tendulkar
3. Ponting(c)
4. Lara
5. V. Richards
6. J. Kallis
7. A. Gilchrist (wk)
8. S.Warne
9. C. Ambrose
10. W. Akram
11. G. McGrath
❤❤❤❤
Best to play for Wales (destroyed the West Indies in his mid 50s), along with Kallis (who played in the one-day thrashing of England)
no doubt he is the greatest fast bowler of all time. he was the don bradman of fast bowling.
Waseem Akram is the greatest left arm fast bolwer of all time. Glenn McGrath is the greatest right hand fast bowler of all time. but Sydney Barnes is the greatest fast bowler of all time.
respect from Pakistan.
he was a medium pace spinner who bowled leg cutters, not a fast bowler lol
@@danialshah2957 medium pacers also fall in the category of fast bowlers. Lol
Sorry sir curtly ambose is better than Glen mgrath . But I believe both wasim and malcolm Marshall and Dennis lillee are greater quicks
100 th comment
Sorry Marshall is the best bowler ever .
compearing cricketers of 100 years ago to today is a joke
roy browne How?
the greatest players in cricket history deserve proper respect
I think he's comparing them to their conteporaries.
It's easy for GB to say that statistics don't tell everything about an unknown entity and you should rely on other parameters. That's because he understands cricket all too well. For laypeople, the best way to judge the merit of a player are the statistics (which includes the quality of the opposition). If not statistics, people like me would have to rely on intuition which is ridiculous. For all that's been said about feminine intuition, it's really nothing magical; women are just better than men at observing the little things which they subconsciously file away in the back of their minds and then seem to be able to magically connect the dots. But that doesn't really help someone who doesn't understand cricket at all, does it because she won't be able to interpret the signs even they aren't very subtle?
Dislike - Wasim was the most complete bowler that have graced the game.
Lost respect for Geoff Boycott after seeing his XI and how he tries to justify the exclusion of the Asian greats (particularly Gavaskar, Wasim and Tendulkar).
A stubborn and ignorant character epitomized by his selfish batting
+Max Maybach Gavaskar and Tendulkar?! Ummm, you may have noticed that this is him selecting his favourite bowlers. And given that this is him selecting his favourite bowlers WTF should he select Wasim? It's a matter of taste. Just as you declaring definitively that Wasim's a more complete than a bowler you've never seen is idiotic.
Michael Jenkins Have you seen his All time XI? I am referring to his biased and prejudice tone in the article he wrote on the Telegraph (see link below) which is also in context with this video series.
If you knew a pinch about the Asian greats of the game you would not hesitate to agree that Wasim was the best all time bowler (unless you're idiotic ofc) but hey Asian cricketers never get the recognition they deserve by such individuals because of the sheer amount elitism and bigotry.
The fact he named an All time XI without Gavaskar, Tendulkar, Wasim (and Imran Khan in my book) is just inexcusable and ignorant.
Now if you look at Richy Benaud's all time XI he includes Gavaskar, Tendulkar and Imran Khan WHY?
Because he is impartial and knows the game inside out and witnessed virtually every era of cricket you can think off. Benaud was a true inspiration to all lovers of the game.
It is a great insult to have a selfish, disliked individual (on and off the field) during his playing days being given coverage by Crincinfo.
www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/cricket/international/england/8647320/Geoffrey-Boycott-ICCs-Dream-XI-is-a-joke-it-has-no-credibility.html
Max Maybach That has nothing to do with this series. And Boycott's perfectly entitled to his opinion, formed over decades of watching the game. The people in that Telegraph XI are rather fucking good you know! They're all perfectly defensible, valid selections for an all-time XI. Them and at least a dozen others not mentioned in either team. I'd probably have Wasim and Tendulkar in my all-time XI - Gavaskar would be a toss-up between him and several other outstanding opening bats; I'd be much more inclined to select Sanga than Gavaskar if I were to go for another Asian - but I'm certainly not going to get pissy and cry bigotry if someone were to decide that they believe greats like Malcolm Marshall or Sydney Barnes are better choices, because they were truly phenomenal cricketers too.
Michael Jenkins Boycott didn't even name Tendulkar, no Gavaskar, no Wasim, no Imran Khan, not one of these Asian greats - now I'm not saying I expect every one of those to be there, but the point is I have never seen an All time XI without an Asian player in fact virtually every one of these teams put forward I have always seen at least 2 or usually 3 Asian cricketers but because this list has been drawn up by an elitist, stubborn bigot this what we have come too. It is irresponsible for Cricinfo and the Telegraph to give this waste of space any platform to propagate his agenda.
The English players he shared the dressing room couldn't stand him why don't you ask them?
A selfish player of poor character does not earn the right to have an opinion on cricket I'm sorry.
+Max Maybach How can you say that he is racist when he talks up all of the West Indians? Look at his stats and you will then see why he has the right to give his opinion on cricket
Waqar Younis and Wasim Akram are the two greatest bowlers of all time. who the fuck is Sydney Barnes, he played when Batsmen were not wearing a safeguard so a bouncer was enough to let them walk to the pavilion.
I can see why your a Lone wolf
27 tests 189 wickets....match that, any era, any bowler.
Can't help long wolves if they are a cricket ignoramus
And we have a moron.
Lol...waqar younis!!