EDDIE TRUNK on WHITESNAKE 1987 Lineup Change
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- EDDIE TRUNK on WHITESNAKE 1987 Lineup Change
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That album belongs to Sykes. Without Sykes and his sound, that album wouldn't have been nearly as successful.
True. But to hold a grudge for over 30 years seems silly.
Paul Forbes amen
That album had some great riffs.
Chris Boehk True 30 years is a long time to hold a grudge. But when you consider how mainstream of a star Sykes could have become had he been in all those videos and on that tour, I can see his anger and resentment.
Yes. Always felt that.
Sykes was so good that Coverdale decided he needed to BE Sykes, so he bleached his hair, stole his look and fired him....then had to hire two guitarists to take his place, and even then, they couldn't do it.
Spectacularly well said ! Totally agree
WS was always a 2-guitar-band live.
@@nimim.markomikkila1673 except they weren't... From at least 1984 to 1987, Sykes was the sole touring/recording guitarist for that band. You can find plenty of footage of Whitesnake live with just Sykes.
@@flintm6945 So be it, thanks for the info:) I still prefer the bands sound prior to Sykes, but yes, Sykes was way better for the band than Vai. But these are just my opinions:)
Absolutely.
I saw Whitesnake in 85 with Sykes in Rio. Queen also played the same festival, as well as Ozzy w Jake, Maiden, Scorpions etc... I was only 11. Best show of my life to this day.
Great lineup.I'm jealous.
I'm jealous.
Freddie started a riot lol with the fake boobs
Vivian out of any guitar players after Sykes did justice to John's solo he played them the most accurately everyother guitar player did there own thing
Viv Campbell did a decent shift,but he didn't use a Les Paul,and it does show,the tones not quite there,to do the songs justice...
Vandenberg was totally out of his depth as a lead player,replicating Sykes' guitar....
I love Vivian as a guitarist, especially the Dio albums he played on, but I think Doug Aldrich probably did the best job of recreating John Sykes style and sound during his time in Whitesnake. Just my opinion though.
That’s some of the best feedback I have ever heard from a fan. Take note musicians, Les Pauls. Glad I have two, thanks again.
This photo has Cozy Powell instead of Aynsley Dunbar who was the drummer on the 1987 WS album.
I thought that looked like Cozy - RIP.
Probably no photos with that lineup and the picture with Cozy was as close as they could get
Sykes was the biggest talent on that 1987 lineup and Coverdale knew it.
Dann Huff performed the guitar solo on the US radio release of “Here I Go Again.”
Huff is underrated.
He played one of the versions. But the most common one is Vandenberg on the solo.
@@neloramirezguitar Huff's is better, simpler but the bends are sublime
I was 17 in 1987, I had never heard of whitesake until that album. Went to the show in Little Rock Arkansas, anyway I’m glad I didn’t know about the line up change like Eddie. That was Whitesnake to me. Great show!
Same age as you. Saw the tour with Great White in Madison Wi. It was good.
@@BoomerBends FEELS GREAT TO BE TURNINNG FUCKING 51 THIS YEAR DOESNT IT HA
Sykes is a fekin legend,Blue murder the first album should of been the next whitesnake album but Coverdale is to egotistical..........and sykes is an awesome vocalist and a shred master...
Coverdale just didn't want the competition. It was like what Ted Nugent did with Derek St. Holmes.
That 1987 album was a MONSTER !! Unless you were around back then and had MTV and a car with a Radio then you have NO IDEA !!
Hehe I'll just point out it's cozy Powell in this picture, not ainsley dunbar.....
I saw that Tour Whitesnake and Great White!
"The Whitey Tour"
I saw them in 1987 with Motley-Crue and with out social media i had no clue about all this drama...I was hoping to see Vai was it...They still were pretty good...
That Page-Black Crowes album is fucking KILLER!!!!
In 92 Vivian Campbell went on to join Def Leppard my favorite band of all time
Vivian also played for Dio back then
But he is no Steve Clark!
Steve Clark’s Def Leppard was the best lineup...
@@alexabeyta1544 agreed
David Coverversion peaked with the 87 album, thanks to Sykes writing and guitar prowess. What a horses ass decision to fire the guy.
I was so pissed , waited yrs to see Whitesnake . My favorite line up cozy , Neil and Sykes ! Then he shows up with these posers WTF !
Sykes was the heart and soul of the '87 Album. Firing him was why the follow up album paled in comparison.
Mick E Gee well to me they were 😆. Rudy Sarzo licking his bass , vandenburg crawling around on his knees it was all a bit much 🙄. Not a stupid comment just how I feel it was gay 🤮
And just to be clear , I felt it was lame that Coverdale fired the line up that made the record and hired A more U.S.A. friendly line up . Not to say I don’t like Vivian or Adrian just prefer Sykes as a player . Great musicians but I was very disappointed . Maybe posers was a bit harsh but have you seen the video they were posing 😆. And I also get the fact that Coverdale had been trying to break America for yrs and his move proved to be the right one for him . Huge huge album and that put them on the map . Just sucks for Sykes and the rest 😬
Mick E Gee I remember first hearing when Coverdale replaced the entire band with that All-Star line up. They were great live, but the next album did nothing for me. It was at that point when I realized just how important John Sykes was to the group. He was the driving force behind the ‘87 album.
if i was in a band that had a line-up that featured john sykes, neil murray, and cozy powell, i'd be intent on ruling the world as that was a fucking band. nothing against vivian campbell and tommy aldridge but that was a really pop-metal line-up as i too don't enjoy seeing rudy sarzo licking his bass or humping or adrian vanderburg looking really girly.
I so fortunate to see the Slide it In tour about 3 times with Sykes, Cozy Powell and I believe Neil Murray. All in Sacramento CA. Sykes played that blue sunburst Les Paul. Those were great shows before the band went full hair band.
30th Anniversary of Coverdale Page with bonus tracks would be awesome! Those guys aren't getting any younger.
That changing of the lineup kept Coverdale, and Sykes, from becoming household names, IMHO. He just didn’t have the writing contribution anymore. Sykes was Coverdale’s Jimmy Page. Dan Huff declined a spot, because he knew his limitations. Dan Huff!!!
I’d love to see Jimmy Page and Fiona Apple do a track. I think they’d KILL it.
Coverdale was an idiot to fire Sykes. Whitesnake has always been, and will always be David's band. The brand name is owned by Coverdale, the contract with EMI i guess is with him; and Sykes, no matter what he said at the time, could not "take over" the band literally.
I do understand that Sykes got impatient with David's vocal chords problems, that in the end, after about an year, got solved. And Coverdale felt very insecure by John's presence on the band, but that, in my view, was also a bit of inexperience and imaturity of his part.
David was very nahive and not much intelligent to send Sykes out, there was some kind of a chemistry between Sykes and Coverdale that cannot be duplicated. Something a bit similar to the chemistry between John Bon Jovi and Ritchie Sambora, but maybe a bit more intense, and very, very unique.
I always thought that John Sykes was the greatest loss of whitesnake ever and I also thought that David,Sykes,Sarzo and Tommy Aldridge would be the greatest line up band ever,the only one close to Led Zeppelin.
Thin Lizzy is my favorite band and Sykes made them a much better band
Keep in mind, Coverdale was in debt to the tune of millions of dollars. Sykes wasn't. David was betting everything on this album and would naturally be protective (possibly to the point of paranoia,) of all executive decisions. If he had even an inkling of Sykes talking to management behind his back, it might explain Sykes' firing, warranted or not.
How many different versions of "Here I Go Again" are there now??? Kinda ridiculous
The 82 version, the 87 version, the radio remix and the live version from live in the shadow of the blues.
Really..just two
Sykes is God
the 1987 line up was already together for a few years and the new line just existed so it is not far to compare them. vivian and adrian are just as good players as john sykes
Sykes' "new" album has been on RUclips for a few years now.... Sy-ops
I think honestly David knew he needed a good looking band to tour...it was hot at the time...the REASON I THINK why the God john sykes wasnt involved is because MAYBE ego..hard to get along with etc..this music buiz is cutthroat man just like any company
Issues with D.C.'s vocal cords: listen to '83, then '89. Even with Page. Dave sounds *thin*. Sykes complemented him. D.C. sounded so much more powerful on the '87 release.
AGREED that Coverdale's voice is extremely weak on the Coverdale Page album.....how about the ego for Coverdale's name before Page..
@@scottlosey4978 Eh, that could be chalked up to alphabetical order.
You would’ve thought Coverdale had the foresight to see that the follow up to the s/t album was fucked due to his firing John Sykes. White snake hired “all-star” hired hands and never came close to the success of the s/t album
It's not even remotely surprising that classic rock radio never plays anything from Page's post-Zeppelin work. Classic rock radio stations have an established List of songs that they play, and The List has changed very, very little since the mid-1980's. The songs on The List get played over and over and over again, ad nauseum. They never play deep cuts from ANY albums, for any artist, or anything else outside The List. So, for example, from Physical Graffiti, the songs Trampled Under Foot, Houses of the Holy and Kashmir are on the List, so you will hear them on classic rock stations. But The Rover or The Wanton Song? They're both kickass songs that any classic rock listener would love, and they're every bit as great as the other three I listed, but have they ever been played on classic rock radio. Nope. Never. Because they're not on the list.
Vivian was one of my idols when I was in my late teens. My playing style was influenced by Vivian big time.
I hate 2024. I want to go back to the summer of 1987 and just stay there
SYKES HAS NEW MUSIC....CHECK IT OUT....THIS GUY IS A GUITAR GOD
I've always been a huge Sykes fan.
Blue Murder was a good band. Sykes definitely us amazing on guitar.
I am also a big Vivian Campbell fan pre Def Leppard.
But Sykes was a better fit for Whitesnake.
Sykes' playing/tone was a huge factor behind the success of the album. However, the solo on Here I .. was great (didn't know Adrian played that).
Depends on the version....Dan Huff did a great solo on one of them
I think Coverdale is an admirer of Zep and really wanted to play and write with Page.
Page/Coverdale ?
I totally agree, Adrian & Vivian did not sound good together playing the 1987 album LIVE. I have many bootlegs of that tour and the soloing was terrible and the guitars sounded very thin and weak. There is videos of Sykes playing “Bad Boys” LIVE with his newer solo band and the his guitar sound was just like the album, the solos were so close to the album, with added improvisation that sounded great. Also, to show how great he is, he sang the song too. Personally, from a guitar players view, I don’t think either Adrian or Vivian are very good at all. I liked Vivian with Dio, but other than that, meh, Sykes is 110% better than either.
Vivian Campbell did the solo on the give me all your love tonight remix.
Not on the 30th anniversary version? It’s the exact same as the original. The 2020 remix is very close to original too is that the version you are referring to?
Lon Kunze no. 1987 or 1988. Easy to find. It’s a shorter solo. It was put out to try and chart higher.
The lineup that made the album was great, but the touring lineup talent wise was far superior.
I'd take Tommy, Rudy and vivian over them any day. Vandenburg was ok.
Coverdale screwed up by not treating vivian better after the tour because vandenburg was threatened by vivian's guitar playing
Bullshit.
C'mon man Plant is awsome but Coverdale never was out to start anything negative with Plant for god sakes he was in Deep Purple with Glen Hughes and Hughes had to have been an influence and that's more of what I actually hear not the plant style.
That's kinda of like saying Dio was out to poke at Coverdale just not the case here. Blackmore always found very unique singers.
David fucked up right there
JOHN SYKES rules!!!!! Dave who?.
Or the first Iommi record.
i keep thinking that Sykes was the best guitarist for W
I think Coverdale wanted more MTV friendly musicians.
How doesn’t Sykes fit that image? How does Alderage? He’s ugly as hell.
@@russellward4624 Vandenbergs hair feathered much better than Sykes.
Not too much Coverdale but John Koladner. He and the record co. They drove that bus. Back then, if you didn't have a great looking band + great video you couldn't make it...no mtv= no career....
Coverdale needed a hit video or his career was over. Simple as that. Sykes is notoriously difficult to deal with and that is a fact. He has a lengthy record. He would've stayed in the WS mtv era but he sabotaged himself.
Adrian and Viv together couldn't have half the impact than Sykes had and that is where Vai comes in, once again because of the wishes of Koladner. WS is a project not a band.
@@MikeJones-oe3do Damn. That's funny.
Can’t believe it’s been that long WTF 😳
Coverdale page was truly a hidden gem with the chemistry was really good and I believe a fantastic reaction to the 9 japanese dates the Zep management pulled the plug on it , and let Grant off the leash.
Grant...... as in Peter Grant. He was long since retired when Coverdale/Page got together. This tour-union was ended by Robert Plant. Page wanted a reunion and Plant didn’t do Page did this and forced Plants hand and it worked.
Vandenberg, Vivian and and
Rudy looked ridiculous on the videos and in concert. Embarrassing. You can't help to wonder why the 80's imploded.
Lets all please wake up from the 80's!
....Why?
Nobody cares about Jimmy page..that coverdale page record sucked.or it would be on rotation...what did it sell 200k recording 11yrs
Trunk I know D.C. and you are chummy but just admit that D.C. did some shitty stuff to those guys. That's why D.C. doesn't get the respect that he thinks that he deserves.
Yeah but why would Sykes behave in a way that MADE Coverdale feel threatened ? ... Sorry but David was the leader of the band. Sykes bears some blame
Zorn Casteel Sykes does have a history. I saw him on that metal show and he was putting a group together with Billy Sheehan and Portnoy. Then nothing. Then Winery Dogs appears with Kotzen. Makes one speculate
Yes, indeed.
@Truth is Harsh No he wasn't ...
Sykes tried to get the other guys to go against Coverdale, and leave him - *WHILE* he was ill. That's scumbag behavior, regardless you're obviously a guy who always supports the guitarist.
@Truth is Harsh You're just musically ignorant. ... Doesn't matter how great Sykes' guitar sound was - You don't *do that* .
@Truth is Harsh And the point is there's no band without COVERDALE ... Not Jon. Btw hilarious you attempted to put your comment, and hide it from me, but have others see it. - I can get around it 😂
Sykes tried to hijack Whitesnake from DC while he was having surgery on his voice wanting to replace him with some other singer. Sykes still keeps a grudge. For what? Not being able to steal the Whitesnake name and business from Coverdale?
If that’s true why didn’t Coverdale say that instead of claiming he replaced the members for aesthetic purposes?
@@russellward4624 DC has said so in public. They just didn't get along when their egos clashed but DC is out still and Sykes sits at home. I wish John would have come back out again to shred all our asses off.
That is total BS. Coverdale owned all the rights to Whitesnake, there was NEVER any danger of anyone taking anything over from him. Sykes has no legal ability to do any such thing.
@@ExperienceEric that was in a bunch of articles about the feud between Sykes and DC, call them out over BS then. Of course DC owns the right.
Don't buy that....there's NO WAY the public would have accepted a Whitesnake without Coverdale
John stop marinating in resentment and mental anguish. Get out and play!!! no need for a stupid album no one will buy...just get out and play and use that gift of yours...stop wasting time!!!!!!
You are on the word's 1% talent lucky bracket and you stay at home for pretty much 30 years? for what? get out and live your life!!!! everyday in your basement is a loss.
Depression it seems can consume some people
Sykes is overrated