Hey everyone, thanks for sharing your thoughts. We recognize that we have missed the mark by making generalizations about the entire Filipino film industry, and we're working on 1) being accountable to what we put out as content, and 2) doing better in acknowledging it and addressing it for future content. We have changed our title and thumbnail to reflect this, and we really thank you all for your call in - this is the point of media, that you all have the ability to weigh on pieces and begin a discussion. The biggest point we want to apologize on is any inference that the Filipino diaspora (namely a Western audience) is the solution or any comparison to other industries - when we wrote this, we were alluding to how OFWs hold a significant part in the PH economy with their remittances and in the end, connecting that with OFWs being able to see and appreciate great Filipino films and support this with their dollars. This video was made to showcase the improvements of our film industry so far but we apologize if it came across differently, and please know, we would never want to infer that anyone in the west should be telling Filipinos how to be or what they should enjoy as content. As always, your feedback really is welcomed and our goal IS to have conversations!
Not Fil-Ams acting like they’re experts on a country they don’t even live in. 😂 Perhaps before people like you comment on local matters, you might want to, you know, actually visit the Philippines and attend film festivals. But let's be real, you're all not gonna do that.
Tingnan mo. Nag comment ako sa video na ito a few days ago. Yung mga nababasa ko sa Twitter reflected on what I felt about this video. Kung ginawa tong video na ito nung mga 2010s, baka accurate pa ito pero hindi na eh. Filipino cinema is improving people, wake up!
Changing the title does not change the content of your video and how badly written it is. Fil-Ams should not and should never try and discuss homeland culture, that they're far-removed from, as if they have current firsthand experience of it. The Western diaspora has its own filmmakers, creators, and other artists that need the feature more than whatever uninformed and outdated script you come up with.
There’s a lot of good Filipino films the problem is the mainstream networks and management. They’re the ones killing the art form because of 1) Networks only promote their own movies 2) networks make it extremely hard for talented actors from different networks to interact with each other 3) they’ve conditioned the gullible Filipino into network wars which don’t benefit anyone other than their corrupt corporations. Tldr: huge corporations monopolized everything ruining it for everyone.
This is sooooo true. I used to think my lola and titas were just being harsh in criticizing Tagalog movies and TV shows when I was a kid. Turns out they were right and it is sad.
Yup.. kaya abscbn shutdown was important. Atleast ngayon nawala na yung "bawal sya lumabas jan kasi di sya taga diyan na network".. ang next step is Agency base talent contracting where di hawak ng network ang artist. Regarding networks naman, wala namanng makastep up. Gma lang din at tv 5..
It’s the Indie films that are keeping Philippine movies afloat Most studios have just “played it safe” with outdated ideas. That is the limit of their creativity
@@AMACHiiBiong most independent studios don't have a lot of resources and making new and unique stories is difficult . Many played it safe with outdated ideas because it is easier and can got profit. Making unique and different movies is a dangerous to do for most studios as it can easily bankrupt them
They don't like anything pre colonial. They stay away from anything that reminds the people who they are so they gatekeep the people to trendy bullshitt.
@@Math-Tulaneif you want here's my favorite indie films of the Philippines. 1. Metro Manila - this feels so relatable if you're poor and homeless, and are in a desperate situation where you want to break free from it. The feeling of nothing matters, because everything you do will never matter. Until it does at the end, makes Metro Manila my favorite film. Why? I can relate to it, it's a bit subjective but it works for me. 2. Maynila Sa Mga Kuko Ng Liwanag - Lino Brocka made a masterpiece, also one of my favorite films. It's rank higher up than Metro Manila in my tier. Absolutely gritty, gut wrenching and stress inducing. 3. Heneral Luna - I know, I know. It's a bit overrated in our community, but it's so good that even I have to be impressed with the cinematography, dialogues and dynamics. Specifically the protagonist Heneral Luna, John Arcilla was a perfect actor for this role. 4. Birdshot - you can watch this on youtube along with Metro Manila and Heneral Luna, along with Goyo. It's a movie where I can relate myself, because of the character development. I can't really interpret it well, due to it being a bit foggy in my memories. Because I wasn't really fluent in Tagalog so it affected what I could understand and what I couldn't understand. Meaning my interpretation was a bit foggy.
@@isaiahabang this and absolutely overlooking the political influence for the past few decades that explains why the mainstream media IS the that it is… they simply cannot grasp the cultural nuances of what it is like to live in the Philippines because they can only really imitate a quarter of our lived reality
True. Like be for real. I’m studying here abroad and I made the mistake of going to an event held by the university’s Filipino club and they’re at least 10 years behind in terms of pop culture. And yet they still have the gall to act like they can speak on the Filipino experience. Lmao.
Nah its for the good of their channel not to get mass reported by low iq peeps. Philippine entertainment industry is fated to fail with same old same old shows being produced.
"does it lie in the hands of our filipino diaspora to save it" has the "little brown brother" vibe. Questions to FilAms, why do you have a superiority complex? Why do you think you are better than any other Filipinos in the Philippines and other parts of the world? You're trying to be Americanized so bad.
The lesson here is that Filipinos are capable of doing good films. The real villain in this is large studios not investing in said creative and good ideas and would rather stick on what works for them, especially Rom-coms. They know that Filipinos are suckers for love stories so they will recycle plots and would just jumble and change actors. I hope large movie studios learn to take risks for Filipino films because we really can do decent and groundbreaking films. They just need enough support.
This video already explained why that is so. The 45% sales goes to movie theatres, 12% goes to VAT, 10% goes to amusement tax, 5%-20% to the distributor. At the end of the day only 13%-28% (if they get lucky and pay only 5% to the distributor) goes to the studios and minus their expenses (budget of the film itself plus marketing) it is very hard to convince investors/studios to take risks since the chance of losing money is very high.
@@fc7307 hmm, yeah actually that’s difficult. personally, I think the issue is that people aren’t always open-minded, they often seek things that are comfortable and familliar.
@@ArtzieKitI'm Filipino, and I agree with this I've barely seen any uniqueness and creativity in Filipino media for more than a decade, but maybe that's just me
they don’t get it because they are not local. they’re not filipinos either, they ARE americans but they want the movies to be made for them. why don’t these mfs just suck up to hollywood and ask for better representation for them rather than crying about filipino film culture, which IN FACT has gotten better despite the lack of budget and lack of maisntream media exposure.
@@godkokomi4354Gusto nila ng representation, magrereklamo sila tungkol sa pelikulang Pilipino, tapos gagawa sila ng pelikula tulad ng "Fabulous Filipino Brothers" at masaya na sila sa ganon heh.
@@llynnlopez diba???? Parang sira. Praising Bollywood for being unapologetically indian pero pag tayo naging comedic and campy baduy na. As if Marvel is any better. Bad films are everywhere! And Filipino Cinema has a lot of hidden gems waiting to be discovered.
Talking about accessibility of Filipino films when a huge chunk of Filipino film gems are literally uploaded here on RUclips free for you to enjoy, and maybe then you'll reevaluate what you think of the Filipino film industry today
If you talked to the ex employees who worked in those TV shows, they'll tell you that they literally have a production bible of ideas where they mix and match those ideas and churn out trash stories that revolve around those ideas. Example amnesia + affair + poverty + disability = (trash generic story) I have a friend who used to work on certain "TV channels", oooh boy she got overworked and underpaid also even if it's your day off expect to be called to finish a scene. I wouldn't recommend working on those types of projects unless you love to be a slave for those greedy companies.
The writing is so bad. You’re either an innocent martyr or you’re an evil monster. Nothing in between. And there are so many secret love children. So many coincidences. The characters do so many dumb things just to further the plot, which they forget about later on anyway. And when they do the “abangan” at the end of the episode, they reveal everything for the next couple of episodes.
ESPECIALLY afternoon drama. I cringed at the changes they made to Shining Inheritance. They took a good KDrama and turned it into a stereotypical telenovela.
I agree! Also, check on out on the film Ang Dragon sa Capanganuran. The film focuses on the Philippine Revolution where, instead of Luzon, the scope points to Visayas and Mindanao; stories of the Revolution unheard.
If you like Historical Movies like Heneral Luna and Goyo, Go Watch TV Shows like Maria Clara at Ibarra or Pulang Araw. Also Go Watch the Movie, GomBurZa.
If you like Philippine Historical Movies like Heneral Luna and Goyo, Go Watch Other Philippine Historical Movies like Jose Rizal and GomBurZa... You might also like Philippine Historical TV Shows like Ilustrado, Maria Clara at Ibarra, and Pulang Araw.
If you like Philippine Historical Movies like Heneral Luna and Goyo, Watch Other Historical Philippine Movies like Jose Rizal and GomBurZa... Also you might like Philippine Historical TV Shows like Ilustrado, Maria Clara at Ibarra, and Pulang Araw.
are you purposely deleting the comments that discount so many of the points that you tried to make in this video? agreed, there are many problems in the Philippine entertainment industry and that includes the production of many mainstream projects, but this video title so grossly misinterprets the culture as a whole. Philippine made media isn’t for everyone, great! that’s fine, as there are so many projects we can all enjoy globally. but there have been great Filipino made art, made with Filipinos in mind, that have been singular and significant to the zeitgeist of what it means to be Filipino. this video was clearly made with the standards of other foreign media in mind, most of which doesn’t necessarily cater to Filipinos in the Philippines may need or want. that’s not always particularly fair, and when the Philippines DOES produce really groundbreaking material, even if it may not be as high budgeted as you would want, do the filipino Americans support it? did you all watch, say, Maria Clara at Ibarra, which is a prime example of great local production and acting and storytelling? Or even Hello Love, Goodbye, which is a great example of telling the story of what Filipino women live through abroad to provide for their families back home, and guess what? both of these projects are produced by mainstream outfits. what more for the independent, more adventurous creators? I get the criticism, as a Filipino living in the Philippines, I very much yearn for projects that are different, but it has to be acknowledged that the way it’s conveyed in this video makes it sound…..pretty conditional. and it needs to be said - there will ALWAYS be a time and place for a corny formulaic romcom. maybe not all the time if that’s what’s always released, true, but to look down on the genre as a whole is pretty cheap and honestly? lazy criticism. anyway this video is getting cooked on twitter and justly so. I would have expected better criticism and some valid points are made but overall, just….? kind of ignorant of the economic and social realities of being Filipino IN the Philippines. This point isn’t to dog on the Filipinos living abroad - it’s just that if you don’t know or care to know about what’s going on in the country, then anything you say about any industry just seems half-baked, honestly.
Constructive criticism here. I agree with a lot of points here, but this is an oversimplification of a wider scope of films. People viewing Philippine media through the lens of Westernized eyes in itself creates a distinction. As much as I also have complaints about a lot of MAINSTREAM Philippine entertainment, there are still countless Indie films and shows that can easily show the true vision of film and writing geniuses of the country. Understanding the stereotypical structures of many mainstream Filipino films has a lot to do with the social and cultural ties that everyday Filipinos go through. Viewing it from the perspective of a Filipino who grew up overseas is just not the same because we do not have the same day to day struggles. These things should also be taken into account.
Like the audacity to even imply they can save Filipino Movies but they can't even make good ones themselves. Classic Fil-Am things, they can just watch Marvel or any hollywood shit.
Just going to say, if they actually want to make films capable of winning awards in film festivals, they should humbly beg for tips from directors in the Philippines. They're begging for Western acknowledgement and adoration and yet completely unable to get any and make their films have an impact beyond their sorry echo chambers. Meanwhile, even on Twitter, foreign film afficionados are defending the Philippine film industry from this showcase of arrogance and presumptuousness after recently seeing award-winning Filipino films on film festivals or the restorations of our classics on Criterion or even the raves for Lav Diaz on obscure Internet forums.
I’m a Fil-Am, but the irony after I heard the line “does it lie in the hands of our Filipino diaspora to save it?” a minute into the video. I’ve never chuckled so hard in my life. Fellow Fil-Ams’ definitely trying to put their unsolicited opinions on Philippine films just to be so-called “relevant” is just not it. Considering that most Fil-Ams are so out of touch of what’s truly going on in the Philippines is clearly notable. But hey, while the tea’s still hot-why not milk it more to gain more views/traction and have those dollars coming in. Right? lmao
seems kind of lazy to label Philippine cinema as cheesy, no? when a lot of it is C A M P on purpose, from the humor to the cinematography to the costumes to the acting. like yes, definitely not for everyone, and yes, exhausting when that is the only thing produced for audiences to receive, but to write it off just because it presents itself as is when many Filipinos have been taking back that camp and the culture many pride themselves on, the humor and the snappiness and general optimistic outlook on life and vibrancy, has a symbiotic relationship with these films: they are inspired by the people, and the people are inspired by them. like I see you put four sisters and a wedding as an example of “poor” cinema WELL it is my cinema!!!! yes give me icons crying at each other! yes give me composed middle sibling finally breaking down and revealing her insecurities!!!!! give me ofw siblings crying over how hard it is to live abroad without their families!!!!!! BUT MAKE IT FUNNY AND MAKE IT (kind of) CAMP!!!!! that is cinema and culture and iconic to me. maybe not to you! but to many Filipinos? Yes!!!! Y E S !!!!!!!
there's a difference between "your cinema, relatable cinema, etc." and actually good fucking film making kid. also, you can't call any film making industry GOOD if they just keep repeating the SAME core story lines over and over and over again for nearly 20 years.
@@ryanreviews8566 I’m probably older than you, for one, let’s start there. and I don’t discredit your point. yes, there is an art to creating as you quote “good fucking cinema,” but what is the crime in enjoying camp cinema? hence I said I (pertaining to myself) enjoyed it. no harm done in enjoying something for myself, and that many others do too. there is a reason why the film is beloved and a popular recent cult classic. there is also a skill in creating campy filipino cinema that can hit all the points of being funny and relatable and easily accessible to the masses. it’s not necessarily good all the time, but enjoyable? fuck yeah. not everything need to be cinemalaya worthy. there is a time and place for mainstream film and independent art and they can co-exist. that’s what makes the industry rich (and the balance has been improving recently with bigger outfits trying to take more risks). no need to be hostile, I enjoy film fests (and not just mmff) and I enjoy star cinema too. if you don’t, that’s cool! just….honestly, forgive me for not caring about what constitutes good cinema for you lmao. you have your taste, I have mine. at least I know I have fun. 💁🏽♀️
"Why is the Philippines still making bad films?" Are you implying that everything else that's being made outside the Philippine film industry is good? There are a multitude of amazing Filipino films out there, and most of them are literally only a Google search away. If the goal of your channel really is to showcase your Filipino roots, then you're gonna have to be willing to do the work: do your research, immerse yourselves, and drop this colonial way of thinking. Do better.
Masyadong out of reach ng ibang Fil-ams kase. Or baka tamad lang and doesn't even bother mag research or makisabay sa mga ganap sa pilipinas. It's always those fil-ams who does these critics na tip of the iceberg lang. Sorry not sorry but Mga pinoy na taga pinas pa din mas nakakaalam ng lahat ng culture at pop culture ng pilipinas.
It’s interesting that the title had to be changed after the backlash, which shows there was already a disconnect with the audience. Critiquing Filipino movies is one thing, but how can you fully understand or judge them if you weren’t born or raised in the culture?
It’s not solely a matter of culture, but rather a historical, socio-political, and even an economical perspective You came here with flawed logic, and your mind made up before watching it. With your statement “how can you fully understand or judge them if you weren’t born or raised in the Philippines”. That’s as if you’re saying “your input regarding Noli Mè Tangere and El Filibusterismo are automatically invalid because you didn’t live in that time period. It doesn’t matter if you’re a historian who’s done deep research and due diligence, it doesn’t matter if you’re a high school student studying Jose Rizal’s literature and history, it doesn’t even matter if you’re simply a foreigner with an opinion about those two books and its impact to the Filipinos under the Spanish colonization because YOU WEREN’T THERE” It didn’t even focus the Filipino experience, but the fall and rise of Philippine cinema. The only time it remotely tackled the Filipino experience was when they showcased the comments responding to Erik Matti’s comments about Korean media in Netflix’s top 10, Director Pepe Diokno about Filipinos projecting themselves, and other directors. The nature regarding the decline was tackled, hence the emphasis For the comparison on “bad Filipino movies”, they set the limitations within the regime of Philippine cinema. The mentioned “bad Filipino” movies were compared to other Filipino movies during the golden age. The writing was more prolific back then, and it was defined what made these “bad Filipino movies” lame/baduy. It was an objective critique on the massive declined level of writing and storytelling, as opposed to its predecessors in the established good Philippine cinema scene. This point was then segued into the surge of indie films and Filipino viewers watching Korean media (because again. The tweets literally said that Philippine media tackles the same theme of infidelity, haters to lovers, and some other form of overused lazy tropes. Which brings us back to how this video is not SOLELY cultural, but also historical, socio-political, and even an economical perspective By the way, critiquing and sympathizing something without actually being there is actually called empathy.
@@Captainf1nn I wasn’t discrediting research or empathy, but lived experience adds a unique perspective that can’t always be captured through study alone. Both are valid but offer different insights, especially when it comes to cultural nuances and identity.
Philippines DOES make great films. I've been watching a lot of Cinemalaya, and other indie releases and that's what I've realized. It's not that there arent any, rather, the current industry incentivizes the formulaic ones like romcoms, comedies, horror, etc. That the independent films are often overlooked because the big industries do not support them
The Philippines has been making great films lately we have been penetrating different film festivals and won many awards, I can’t say the same about Filipino-Americans though… 😂
nah, this video is clearly aiming at the shitty outputs that we keep seeing from the mainstream media outlets which is absolutely correct. if you have to say "THERE ARE GOOD FILMS, YOU JUST NEED TO KEEP LOOKING" then it obviously means that most of what's floating out there is still shit.
@@ryanreviews8566 "does it lie in the hands of our filipino diaspora to save it" has the "little brown brother" vibe. This take is 💩. Mind you this same group of people helped produce Easter Sunday of Jokoy.
@@ryanreviews8566you know we could probably say the same shit with american cinema but our’s doesn’t hold water since that scene is bigger philippine cinema so our words aren’t taken as seriously as yours
@@ryanreviews8566Bad take. The video is just that, an intentionally poorly researched piece that aims to discredit Filipino cinema. Plain and simple. "Most of what's floating out there is still shit." Well no shit! At the end of the day, the bulk of the film industry still has to follow the current trends to stay afloat. And make no mistake, this applies to the film industries worldwide, not only the Philippines. Hell, this is exactly why Disney sequels and Marvel movies still sell, not because they're good, but because they're trendy.
The problem with my country entertainment industry is that it was dominated by two networks ( GMA and ABS-CBN ) and the lack of resources of its independent studios.
couple that with our restricted 60/40 economic investments alienating international investors and you got yourself a sludge that keeps the slow gears of progress.
@@jeddvillaspin3379 yeah while I agree that's bad, what we have also makes us stagnant. Our land owners and investors are all the same big wealthy "Filipino" businessmen like Henry Sy's SM or San Miguel Corporation. If you're not already a megacorporation when you start your business, you have little chance of succeeding.
@@jeddvillaspin3379 who said that foreign investments would fully own the land? I presume you got that pesky ignorant info from those protectionist scumbags huh?
Have you considered that your team likely has a limited perspective on filipino culture? Maybe an interview with a Filipino or two directly from the country could have helped, especially if they have the right expertise? Perhaps this was made with good intentions but I can't bring myself to completely fault others for seeing this video as a bit pretentious, even with the title alone (whether or not it was just written to reel in views).
Just saw the pinned comment, and felt like giving my full take, if you'll have it haha. I do see potential in that you guys organized an initiative to create spaces of discussion for and by people like you. Though i personally agree with other comments noting that the research and takes in this video are a bit flimsy.. My two cents is that it could maybe have been strengthened had you included + worked directly with Filipinos/experts? (I see you were able to reach out to and collab with Filipino celebs, that's neat.) And when it comes to Filipino topics, you work on equal grounds with Filipinos? (Like when helping out a community, they're the ones taking the reins, you're merely there as support to fill in any gaps you can, if there are. Otherwise it ends up as charity work.) So yeah hope u can be more responsible moving forward. Other Fil-ams do still need a voice. I see how your other vids have opened up spaces for thought and conversation from people who relate. If you keep up this drive a lot is really possible
One of the reasons our movie making has not progressed is the Old People in the big entertainment companies makes a decision. For us to escape from this repeating cycle of bad films we have to wait for more decades for these old people to retire and out of the game.
These films are made with Pinoy sensitivities, sure some of them are bad but it's something that Fil-Ams can't fully understand unless they've lived here long enough.. I mean I respect your struggle as sometimes not considered Pinoy enough and probably racism from Americans, I won't invalidate that because that's something that we can also never fully understand because we have not lived it..I learned from the comments section that you were involved in the making of the movie Easter Sunday, that's a film made with Fil-Am sensitivities , having been born and raised in PH I don't relate to that story. This video essay sounds quite condescending .
Mainstream Filipino cinema, imho, is on life support. What's keeping it alive now are either the rom-coms or the passable comedies. Festivals like Cinemalaya, Sinag Maynila, and QCinema are injecting new blood into the system. What needs to be addressed is the cost of watching movies, make it more accessible to the general public who don't have disposable income.
Those who think Filipino films suck are the ones who probably don't even bother to watch Filipino films outside mainstream studios because they automatically view them as baduy or tacky. There are lesser known Pinoy films that are winning awards and gaining accolades here in the country and abroad. Go to the cinemas, attend local independent film festivals, explore more films out there. And even those produced by main studios can be considered good films too. For a local industry that has been systematically let down in favor of Hollywood films, Filipino creatives are holding the industry to the ground despite all the odds. What made these countries succeed is the patronage of the audience. Give Filipino cinema a chance!!!!
what makes you think your channel can speak over the 100 million filipinos and THEIR culture? this is not just about films but be aware that the culture you fil-ams grew up on are way different than filipinos. you only know the surface level of it like food, etc but never the struggle. so stop your “redefining filipinos” bs bc you never knew what the real definition of being a filipino is.
@@bimbam9603 some points stated in the video were very much only stated through a fil-am's pov but portrayed through an actual filipino citizen pov. they already apologized for it tho
My mom, a lifelong fan of TFC, stopped watching after discovering K-dramas. Sadly, I find many Filipino films on Netflix cringeworthy, with humor that feels too niche and predictable plotlines that often repeat themselves. I’m really hoping the Philippines will develop its own unique style, but it seems like the veteran directors who paved the way aren’t giving the younger generation a chance to present fresh perspectives in filmmaking.
Here’s an idea for your next video: Why do FilAms think that they have the right to comment on a culture that they don’t even belong in? Please make sure to include all of those filam podcasts that ridicule the culture and language.
There are two movies that baffle me to my bones. Conspiracy (2001) and 12 Angry Men (1957). These films' setting only took place within 1 room/building, yet it has one of the best tension and drama I have seen. The films in our country can't even reach 1/8th of that level. If you're claiming the validity of this vid's research and insights just because this person isn't Filipino enough for you, you're stupid.
@@saintielrivera6629 they’re all over tiktok. i didn’t bother to learn their names 🙄 plus filam comedians whose jokes only revolve on mocking the accent UGH
@@vojacked305 If you don’t understand the culture/language, then you do NOT have the right to an opinion, PERIOD. I doubt anyone who grew up outside of the PH understand the nuances that we have.
It is because how conservative many people are about the theme of the films. Most of the people, particularly those who are in older generations, wanted to have a story which has a "moral lesson", while morals can be thought in many way possible. This time though, MTRCB was involved, rated "Dear Satan" as "X" because the chairman of the board argues that "Satan will never be good", but there was no basis of that statement in their guidelines. It is possible that no attack of the religion was done in the film as well, based on one of their guidelines for declaring an X-rated film. This kind of culture will make Philippine film stagnant and would always stay in its Spanish telenovela era.
Please refer to Chapter II Sec. 2 and Chapter III Sc. 6.8 of the MTRCB Implementing Rules and Regulations February 03, 1997. Moral values and character of the people within the Republic of the Philippines are primarily based on Christian principles alongside local and indigenous sensibilities. Cultural communities could constitute churches as well, and so does their belief system. Ultimately, mukhang justified yung MTRCB sa desisyon nila. Title pa lang, taas-noo na, tapos *children's movie* pa yun. Kung binasa mo yung synopsis ng movie, magpapakabait daw yung demonyo sa pagtatapos ng movie, syempre aalma yung mga magulang doon. If you want Filipino movies to be fresh, don't just make new things for the sake of it or to be provocative. You have be aware of things like this as well.
Gradual Radicalism is good but not an abrupt one. Change takes time and i don't think creating a film that uses Satan as a main character and showed in a highly catholic country is anything but "Gradual"
Pulang Araw, Maria Clara at Ibarra, Marina, Darna (starring Angel Locsin), Amaya, Lobo, Kung Fu Kids, Palos (starring Jake Cuenca), Panday (starring Jerrico Rosales), Pangako sa'yo, Forevermore (LizQuen), The Killer Bride, and Rounin are some examples of great Filipino Tv series and far from Spanish teleseryes.
Self-hating Filipinos wouldn't know about Lav Diaz. The video mentioned Lino Brocka but doesn't actually fully understand just how influential he is even beyond the Philippines, like, Scorsese was a big fan of Brocka.
Some of yall out here never actually immersed yourselves in the contemporary filipino cinema and it shows. Funny how you all talksh it about Filipino cinema without understanding the social and economic realities that birthed these Films. Can you Americans learn how to immerse to Filipino experiences before even having a half-baked opinion about the Philippines? Ughh
Yeah, I still remember the brouhaha over Shindler's List and The Bridges of Madison County back in the 90s for things like the sex scene and pubic hair respectively with Titilating Films (skin flicks) being the rage back then. Irony at its finest.
Just like the other night, I just got lost interest watching "Lumuhod Ka Sa Lupa" because of the dumb censorship: they censored guns now. Wtf was that???
Filipino films get a bad rep, but looking at how other countries turned their film industries around gives me hope. South Korea, Nigeria, India-they all found their own voice and connected with their audiences. Filipino cinema doesn’t need Hollywood’s approval to thrive; we just need to tell our stories in a way that resonates with both local and global audiences. The potential is there, and as viewers, it’s on us to support it. Maybe the real question isn’t “Why do Filipino films suck?” but “What will it take for us to support our own?” 🇵🇭🎥
Filipino films or a lot of them tend to be predictable in terms of plot to the point that almost every time I can predict what the next scene, scenario or outcome will be. Plus I'm not convinced of the acting in general, a lot of it is like the actors reading the script and forgot they're supposed to be in character and at other times they exaggerate way more than they should have. I dunno, I can name a number of Filipino Romcoms that are similar almost to the point of formulaic. Like how many times have you seen a certain scene where the girl "accidentally falls down" and the boy catches her mid air and they share this tense moment where they're face to face almost to the point of kissing? 🙄
@@epraizer999That is the movies they present in the mainstream market. The thing is, you got to dig deeper, like really deeper if you want to find the gold. Just recently I watched a light hearted film about childhood friends going to Mount Pulag ( Roadtrip from Viva ) and damn, it's a simple story that tackles topics like mid-life crisis , strained friendships and suicide. I didn't know we have a good serial killer movie in the 90's ( Sa Aking mga Kamay, Aga Muhlach) with its own spin off series in Amazon ( Cattleya Killer). There is Smaller and Smaller Circles, a really good crime drama about a priests tracking down a serial killer and the rigid corruption and bureaucracy of the NBI ( it's in RUclips). There are tons, you just need to look. It is upsetting that they are not as promoted compared to films with your titular love teams 🙄.
@@epraizer999I agree on the predictability, the overacting on the other hand COULD be turned into a style if it’s done in a smart way, it could become a signature.
Bro Cinemalaya Indies got like 90% of the local films with artistic integrity. Kinda single-handedly and exclusively has all the best films every year. Just a shame a lot of their films aren’t commercially and regionally shown and are limited to certain venues and cinemas.
@@lavendermarshmallowplant3229 haven’t watched it myself but you can bet it’s at least got the distinct style you get from directors that try then the average cashgrab commercial films we get occasionally
Fil ams are a different beast from Filipinos. They don't have the cultural grid to understand Filipino nuances. I haven't seen a Fil am film win awards yet.. but Filipino films have been raking awards across Southeaast Asia and Europe.
This so-called critics needs to see these films; - Ded na si Lolo - Markova: Comfort Gay - Ploning - Maynila, sa mga kuko ng liwanag - Bwakaw - kita kita - Karnal - And Tanging Ina - T-Bird at Ako And so on. Wag kayong mag refer lang sa mga nakikita nyo online. Yall filipinos in US should explore more than what you can critic, walang wala pa kayo sa mga napanuod ng karamihang pinoy na nasa pilipinas.
I want to include: GomBurZa 100 Tula para kay Stella Bar Boys Dekada '70 Bagong Buwan Muro Ami Jose Rizal Oro Plata Mata Alone/Together Ang Babae sa Septic Tank 1,2, and 3 Quezon's Game That thing called Tadhana Die Beautiful Saving Sally Ang Larawan Hayop ka! Firefly
@@malibrary7053 Not only was it worse, but it was actually disgusting. I watched it with my parents and my aunt during my cousin's birthday celebration at the mall when I was about 7 years old. Even though the movie was Rated PG, the ending left me feeling traumatized.
Plot idea for a dark comedy movie: A bunch of Fil-Ams go to the Philippines to film their own idea of a GOOD Filipino film, but cone across the many difficulties of production here, like high cost of living,, bad logistics, rampant government corruption, supertyphoons, earthquakes, vvolcanic eruptions, and rampaging aswang clans. One of the characters insist being called Filipinx. Another one's favorite catch phrase is criticizing everything beginning with "Walang ganyan sa States." They each get turned into aswang, with the finale being a grand song and dance production with their new aswang family! 💃 Charot 😂
HAHAHA NOT THE FILIPINX 😂 i will never get how Fil-Ams got flamed for that suggestion! The nerve to ask Filipinos to adapt to their request is so clownish.
Uhm, I get that the creators of this channel are Filipino Americans… But you guys don’t get to generalize the sentiments of the entire Filipino community. Touch some grass.
these are americans of Filipino descent mind you...they were never Filipino to begin with. They're fully American with a Filipino **accident** on the side
Summary of Filipino film: 1. Adaptations: Mexicanovela, Americanovela, Koreanovela, Japanese animations 2. Romcoms 3. Love Triangles with guns involved 4. Guns and more guns 5. Horror movies that look funny.
@@katyagrad3704 If that's the case I would love to see our take on a cinematic universe or our take in producing a good literary adaptation. Oh that's right we can't.
@@Xedllin Hmmm are they interconnected with other IPs with their own stand alone films and spinoffs? Not that I know of, the Enteng films are simply a franchise with a lot of sequels. Also some of the direct to youtube stuff blows our mainstream films out of the water.
This is to remind everyone that they change the title of this video from “Why is the Philippines still making bad films?” with bad thumbnail. Never Forget!
Pinoy films have a knack for using cheap reused tropes like "The Abused Wife" "Crappy Husband" "Kid goes to college and becomes a millionare" blah blah blah. IMO They're more of what the Filipinos WANT but that's on me.
exactly. PH cinema isn't necessarily bad. we have plenty of great editors, directors, actors etc. the issue is that they just produce what the filipino people watch and support. most of them are also underpaid so they just make do with they have esp w editing
easter Sunday does not a good comedy make I mean 😭 not funny by Hollywood standards not funny by filipino standards, honestly what a struggle. and honestly real ironic that you mentioned relatability to everyday local life as a factor, seeing as MANY filipino films utilize being relatable through the jokes and dialogue made, the settings, and minute details like the drinking culture or interactions in public transportation. People living in the Philippines GET IT, and they enjoy it, and you might not, which is fair! but if you’re going to make a point based on that and recognize it in other countries’ film media and not in the Philippines, that’s a double standard that you should think back on.
These Fil-Ams na di naman pinanganak sa Pilipinas pero ang lakas magbigay ng kritisismo sa mga bagay na di naman nila nasasaksihan first-hand. Hindi ninyo alam ang sitwasyon ng bawat manggagawa ng pelikula, kaya ‘wag na ‘wag kayong aastang parang alam ninyo lahat.
Suggestion: why not partner with Pinoy Comic book creators or at least cultivate aspiring comic book artists/writers. Both South Korea and Japan take stories from Manhwa/Manga and make them into live action movies/series. This will widen creative sources.
@@Johanimate Most of Francisco Coching's works such as Pedro Penduko and the works of Mars Ravelo such as Lastikman, Dyesebel and Bondying were adapted into movies in the 50s and 60s. In the 70s and 80s you'd have Pablo S. Gomes komiks novels like Kampanerang Kuba and Jim Fernandez' Zuma. The Filipino movie industry has a history of taking stories from comics long before Japan and South Korea did.
@@bukonut It's a good idea that they encourage Pilipino komiks creators to give more creativity in their works so that if the film industry decides to adapt it, it'll be something extraordinary.
We have an IP problem that prevents independent filipino comic book creators to implement adaptations There's not enough budget but it takes time to create film
Aren't you guys Filipino Americans?? So you haven't stayed in the Philippines long enough to see the film evolution. Yes, they might be "cheap" "outdated" but that doesn't mean you have the right to criticize it. Don't complain. So your comparing Filipino mainstream media to international media. Huh 😒 Standards: Adobo & Jollibee 🙃
They have a right to criticize it but this is just poorly researched. They generalize too much and probably didn't watched many Filipino movies and understand it to a deeper level. They probably think that what they've seen are the entirety of Filipino films when they've only seen only the small percentage of it, and they didn't even dig more for what could one movie mean to the Filipino culture.
Saying our cinema sucks when you have people like Jo Koy… Maybe you should take into consideration the difference between Hollywood and Asian movies, both of which have different standards. Stop trying to impose your westernized view on Pinoy cinema.
This is something that I had noticed lately: Filipinos in diaspora has started to play the role as the representative of Filipino identity when they dont even have a clue of what theyre talking about. One time I saw this clip on tiktok on how to tell a household is filipino and they listed some things that never made sense to me, but it turns out that they meant Filipino-American, not one of those on that list could describe the typical household from the Philippines. Another one is that stand up comedian guy who was born and raised in Canada (not Jo Koy, but hes just as bad) whos spreading misinformation with his jokes like saying Filipinos are half latinos or that filipinos have spanish surnames because everyone married spanish before. And now this. The situation is so bad, like they dont even do proper research and yet they want to be the spokesperson of a country they probably havent even visited yet.
Everyone here just needs to watch more Filipino films, I think. Many of the good ones barely get screened in local cinemas, and you expect them to get sent abroad? Many of the greats are part of local indie film festivals with already v limited screenings. Major production company movies are hit or miss, yes. But some of my own favorite indie films have made it into international film festivals. A few examples: Cleaners from 2019 - a high school coming-of-age film set in the early 00s, Gospel of the Beast from 2023 (?) - also coming-of-age but with a darker storyline, and Leonor Will Never Die from the 2023 also I think - about dreams of becoming a writer and mortality. And, not in an intl film festival but since people seem to be fixated on historical dramas, Gomburza, released Dec 2023. Those are just the movies off the top of my head. Filipino movies don't suck. Accessibility to them does - whether its the audience struggling to catch screenings, or the filmmakers struggling with resources and meddling corporate heads.
Stop generalizing Filipino movies. This year alone, over 30 quality Filipino films have been released. While the budgets may be modest, many of these films boast impressive storytelling and production value. If you haven't seen the recent standout movies, it’s worth exploring more. If you're only encountering subpar films, then perhaps the ones you're checking aren't representative of the industry's growth. If someone recommended them to you, consider the source-they might not have the best understanding of what's truly good. Philippine cinema has evolved significantly from what it used to be.
Actually we have produce sensible films that actually have been recognized and won awards in international stage. Many historical/period movies have been produce but the general public don't have the pallet for it. So business wise who would produce such sensible films. It's not the movies that are baduy but the general movie goers.
We need key people to invest in new players in the industry. If you look around, there are so many talented Filipino writers, film-making enthusiasts, animators, actors/actresses, voice actors, etc. who have NEW ideas and are willing to be experimental with creative output. The problem is how do they get the chance? How do we push new talents forward to take significant roles in the industry?
By any chance, have you ever heard of The Lovers? It’s an animated movie being produced by Filipino Artist. Right now it’s still in production, but a trailer has been released. I have a feeling you’ll be very delighted to what it looks like as the premise is esentially reinventing the genres and elements Filipinos likes in their movies: love stories, drama, and mermaids.
@@blazingstorm9351 Hi! Yes, I've heard of it. If I'm not mistaken, it's being produced by Studio Heartbreak? I'm excited and happy to know that many of us are enthusiastic about it. Hopefully, more Filipino-led creative works would come out in the coming years. Thanks for your comment.🙂
such a weird take to come from outsiders who quite literally have lived their whole lives succumbing to western ideals and only going back to their Filipino roots whenever they can profit off of it
We need variety because everything we make is the same romcom and remakes so I feel like there's no substance. Action films are behind because of the budget but I think that won't be problem if they're not being taxed temporarily for the next 3 years. Political drama and historical films are the kind of films that I want to see but with all the corruption or controversies I think it will be difficult to make those films. Horror or thriller is something we're already working on and given some of our recent films belong to this genre I think we'll be fine here. Animation is probably something we should try more often because if Trese turned out well then maybe we should look into making more animation.
Another issue I see is the fact that there is a "big thing of the time" in releases. Like around early 2010s the "thing" was Wattpad. Late 2010s were more YA romcoms, think like Ex and Whys or Hello Love Goodbye. Recently it seems to have shifted to historical films. Filmmakers are focusing and spending so much time and effort on the "thing of the time" that other genres get left out.
GMA did it with Barangay 143 and it’s horrible. The Super Inggo animation is somewhat decent but not memorable. The mostly good ones are from indies like Hayop Ka!, but this film is targeted at adults. rpg Metanoia is one of the rare mainstream studio animation that’s really good.
FilAms think that they are high and mighty compared to their brothers in the Philippines. It's unfortunate that some of these Americanized Filipinos dismiss Filipino movies as "crappy" or "worst." Such a viewpoint often overlooks the rich storytelling, cultural depth, and unique perspectives they offer. Like any film industry, there are gems and misses, but it's important to appreciate the artistry and effort behind them rather than generalize. ApakaOA nyo!
How do most of you guys make so much wealth, I'm just curious about the whole process. I still haven't figured out what to invest in yet. Somebody once told me "It costs you more to be poor." 🤯
Well, I picked the challenge to put my finances in order. Then i invested in cryptocurrency, stocks, through the assistance of my discretionary fund manager
Films and tv series in the Philippines are still stuck with early 2000s theme. I grew up there and I never really liked entertainment industry especially the love teams. They don’t have new ideas and they just keep recycling the same themes and storylines. I remember Melay had an interview with Oggie Diaz and she told him about her work in Korea, how advanced their technology is, everyone eats together during break time. Koreans are punctual and really commits to the project while they were filming. She said they were like a big family working together to create something special but in the Philippines, actors and people working behind the scene don’t really get along and they’re unorganised that’s why it takes a long time for them to finish projects.
This comment proves that you should explore more Filipino films and series. Our series needs a lot of improvement but we have many good quality films with interesting themes and good plots. There are many good indie films and movies from Cinemalaya and Pista ng Pelikulang Pilipino.
African-Americans and other non toxic dual nationalities can be both. But no, not Fil-Ams. Fil-Ams are white Filipinos that really try to be Filipinos, but they do really try to be white person themselves. I said what I said.
There are bad Filipino films, just like how Korea, China and India have theirs too. But honestly, it makes me want to know more from someone who's in the industry as well. Is it actually because Filipino films are that bad? Is it because of the local taste? Are producers and studios monopolizing the industry? Is there no quality control? Are Filipino films not up to par? I dont know, There's just so many questions and factors that can also be answered by someone who's in the industry.
I haven't directly asked these questions, but I've attended some lectures by creatives who've worked on projects for the entertainment industry, and many of them have more or less expressed an awareness for the general quality of their work _when working with these local studios or products_ . Many of them have also worked on international projects that they know are better, and are blunt in admitting that the reason for this is they just have to adjust to the nature of the industry. When working for, say, abs-cbn, they just have a particular style or routine they have to follow even if they aren't proud of the output--likewise for foreign or just different productions in general, those have a style or environment or culture that they think helps them better their work.
Came here because of what I saw on Twitter about the previous title of this clip. The thing is mahirap magresearch at magcomment sa topic without actually being there & witnessing/experiencing it first hand. So its really about respect, doing GOOD research and making sure to widen the perspective- consider the audience when you’re delivering the message.
Never forget that the original title of this video was "Why is the Philippines still making bad films?" with a thumbnail of a girl exaggeratingly eating popcorn and the word "This sucks" on it. 😬
No, cause, I would love more historical films that arent just glamourized documentaries or comedies. Our country has a lot of history, so why not show it?
... so the title should be "Why are most Pinoy movies backed by a big-money studios like Star Cinema, Regal (RIP mother Lilly), and Viva Films so unbearable to watch?"
Our films have to step away from the dragging,formulaic storylines,overuse of dialogue and low brow content. Films such as Heneral Luna,Goyo,Quezon’s game show that we can produce quality films and teach history as well.
There are still commendable Filipino films, but they are not easy to discover. Most of them come from independent filmmakers. In contrast, mainstream Filipino cinema appears to be beyond redemption and may be better off fading away. Additionally, one must question the persistent desire for validation from the US media and film industry. Given the current Hollywood productions, isn't it better to find inspiration and recognition from other places?
When they make a movie, most of the time they didn't care about the story, just slap the BIG CELEBRETIES in there that sometimes don't even fit in the role of the character. If you live in the Philippines, You know what I'm talking about.
During college, I had a professor that was a writer for a certain TV network. This was around 2007 or so. According to her, writers were at the mercy of producer's(?), I don't exactly remember what she called them, they decide the love teams, the film/tele novela to be produced, the writers can only pitch their story in a very very limited time. If they fail to get the producer's attention then unfortunately their story won't get accepted. She also mentioned that there are formulas followed to make sure it sells. The whole thing just sounds so stifling and kills creativity
The one of the reasons on Filipino films as bad is lack of universality or sense of connection despite of the difference. The writing in Philippines film is based on the few group of people. This situation don't help the Philippines film marketing.
Hey everyone, thanks for sharing your thoughts. We recognize that we have missed the mark by making generalizations about the entire Filipino film industry, and we're working on 1) being accountable to what we put out as content, and 2) doing better in acknowledging it and addressing it for future content. We have changed our title and thumbnail to reflect this, and we really thank you all for your call in - this is the point of media, that you all have the ability to weigh on pieces and begin a discussion.
The biggest point we want to apologize on is any inference that the Filipino diaspora (namely a Western audience) is the solution or any comparison to other industries - when we wrote this, we were alluding to how OFWs hold a significant part in the PH economy with their remittances and in the end, connecting that with OFWs being able to see and appreciate great Filipino films and support this with their dollars. This video was made to showcase the improvements of our film industry so far but we apologize if it came across differently, and please know, we would never want to infer that anyone in the west should be telling Filipinos how to be or what they should enjoy as content. As always, your feedback really is welcomed and our goal IS to have conversations!
Not Fil-Ams acting like they’re experts on a country they don’t even live in. 😂
Perhaps before people like you comment on local matters, you might want to, you know, actually visit the Philippines and attend film festivals. But let's be real, you're all not gonna do that.
Tingnan mo. Nag comment ako sa video na ito a few days ago. Yung mga nababasa ko sa Twitter reflected on what I felt about this video. Kung ginawa tong video na ito nung mga 2010s, baka accurate pa ito pero hindi na eh. Filipino cinema is improving people, wake up!
Changing the title does not change the content of your video and how badly written it is. Fil-Ams should not and should never try and discuss homeland culture, that they're far-removed from, as if they have current firsthand experience of it.
The Western diaspora has its own filmmakers, creators, and other artists that need the feature more than whatever uninformed and outdated script you come up with.
And yet you keep your video up for the views, engagement, and money. Stay classy.
Boo
There’s a lot of good Filipino films the problem is the mainstream networks and management. They’re the ones killing the art form because of 1) Networks only promote their own movies 2) networks make it extremely hard for talented actors from different networks to interact with each other 3) they’ve conditioned the gullible Filipino into network wars which don’t benefit anyone other than their corrupt corporations. Tldr: huge corporations monopolized everything ruining it for everyone.
This is sadly true, well said!
can I have some examples?
This is sooooo true. I used to think my lola and titas were just being harsh in criticizing Tagalog movies and TV shows when I was a kid. Turns out they were right and it is sad.
wow... well explained 👏
Yup.. kaya abscbn shutdown was important. Atleast ngayon nawala na yung "bawal sya lumabas jan kasi di sya taga diyan na network".. ang next step is Agency base talent contracting where di hawak ng network ang artist. Regarding networks naman, wala namanng makastep up. Gma lang din at tv 5..
It’s the Indie films that are keeping Philippine movies afloat
Most studios have just “played it safe” with outdated ideas. That is the limit of their creativity
Highly agree with this. For example, ang kwento nating dalawa and tayo sa huling buwan ng taon
@@AMACHiiBiong most independent studios don't have a lot of resources and making new and unique stories is difficult .
Many played it safe with outdated ideas because it is easier and can got profit. Making unique and different movies is a dangerous to do for most studios as it can easily bankrupt them
They don't like anything pre colonial. They stay away from anything that reminds the people who they are so they gatekeep the people to trendy bullshitt.
@@Math-Tulaneif you want here's my favorite indie films of the Philippines.
1. Metro Manila - this feels so relatable if you're poor and homeless, and are in a desperate situation where you want to break free from it. The feeling of nothing matters, because everything you do will never matter. Until it does at the end, makes Metro Manila my favorite film. Why? I can relate to it, it's a bit subjective but it works for me.
2. Maynila Sa Mga Kuko Ng Liwanag - Lino Brocka made a masterpiece, also one of my favorite films. It's rank higher up than Metro Manila in my tier. Absolutely gritty, gut wrenching and stress inducing.
3. Heneral Luna - I know, I know. It's a bit overrated in our community, but it's so good that even I have to be impressed with the cinematography, dialogues and dynamics. Specifically the protagonist Heneral Luna, John Arcilla was a perfect actor for this role.
4. Birdshot - you can watch this on youtube along with Metro Manila and Heneral Luna, along with Goyo. It's a movie where I can relate myself, because of the character development. I can't really interpret it well, due to it being a bit foggy in my memories. Because I wasn't really fluent in Tagalog so it affected what I could understand and what I couldn't understand. Meaning my interpretation was a bit foggy.
Even Indie films sucked and oftentimes derivative.
It's always the Filipinos in diaspora acting like they have an authority of what makes filipino culture.
they see 1 filipino film a year and they have this audacity to have this kind of opinion 😍
exactly
@@isaiahabang this and absolutely overlooking the political influence for the past few decades that explains why the mainstream media IS the that it is… they simply cannot grasp the cultural nuances of what it is like to live in the Philippines because they can only really imitate a quarter of our lived reality
commenting here so I can check later.
I see from the other comments that creator is deleting negative comments
True. Like be for real. I’m studying here abroad and I made the mistake of going to an event held by the university’s Filipino club and they’re at least 10 years behind in terms of pop culture. And yet they still have the gall to act like they can speak on the Filipino experience. Lmao.
A philosopher once said, "She doesn't even go here!"
Gatekeep pa
@@ichiro.g😝
@@joniyap di nga sila makapag salita ng wika natin dito 😅
@@ichiro.g oo gatekeep talaga for as long as ganiyan tunog ng Tagalog nila
@@lmuity8466 sapat na raw na may dugo silang Pilipino 🥲
Never forgetti that they changed the title and thumbnail of this video
Nah its for the good of their channel not to get mass reported by low iq peeps. Philippine entertainment industry is fated to fail with same old same old shows being produced.
Yeah i was confused and thought it was a different video
Yea sure they did that so they wont be mass reported by people who wont watch the vid but only read the title.
Whats the original?
@@windowdresser1643 "why is the philippines still making bad films?"
"does it lie in the hands of our filipino diaspora to save it" has the "little brown brother" vibe. Questions to FilAms, why do you have a superiority complex? Why do you think you are better than any other Filipinos in the Philippines and other parts of the world? You're trying to be Americanized so bad.
@@daxaq7888 Colonial mentality really screwed us over I'm afraid, and our non-native brothers and sisters even more so.
Because they think they are hanging on better trees and eating better bananas in the US.
they think they're the main characters soooo bad
Main character syndrome for Fil-Ams like them is absolutely crazy
The lesson here is that Filipinos are capable of doing good films. The real villain in this is large studios not investing in said creative and good ideas and would rather stick on what works for them, especially Rom-coms. They know that Filipinos are suckers for love stories so they will recycle plots and would just jumble and change actors. I hope large movie studios learn to take risks for Filipino films because we really can do decent and groundbreaking films. They just need enough support.
Exactly, this country is painfully fucking backwards.
This video already explained why that is so. The 45% sales goes to movie theatres, 12% goes to VAT, 10% goes to amusement tax, 5%-20% to the distributor. At the end of the day only 13%-28% (if they get lucky and pay only 5% to the distributor) goes to the studios and minus their expenses (budget of the film itself plus marketing) it is very hard to convince investors/studios to take risks since the chance of losing money is very high.
@@ArtzieKit As I'm Filipino, can you please make an opinion that's not insulting, I'm tired of stereotypes.
You're referring "country".
@@fc7307 hmm, yeah actually that’s difficult.
personally, I think the issue is that people aren’t always open-minded, they often seek things that are comfortable and familliar.
@@ArtzieKitI'm Filipino, and I agree with this
I've barely seen any uniqueness and creativity in Filipino media for more than a decade, but maybe that's just me
Praising Nigerian cinema for focusing on relatable local stories. Did you not stop to THINK for a moment that that is what Filipino movies are doing?
they don’t get it because they are not local. they’re not filipinos either, they ARE americans but they want the movies to be made for them. why don’t these mfs just suck up to hollywood and ask for better representation for them rather than crying about filipino film culture, which IN FACT has gotten better despite the lack of budget and lack of maisntream media exposure.
@@godkokomi4354Gusto nila ng representation, magrereklamo sila tungkol sa pelikulang Pilipino, tapos gagawa sila ng pelikula tulad ng "Fabulous Filipino Brothers" at masaya na sila sa ganon heh.
@@llynnlopez diba???? Parang sira. Praising Bollywood for being unapologetically indian pero pag tayo naging comedic and campy baduy na. As if Marvel is any better. Bad films are everywhere! And Filipino Cinema has a lot of hidden gems waiting to be discovered.
Filipinos have this "negative exceptionalism
True.
Talking about accessibility of Filipino films when a huge chunk of Filipino film gems are literally uploaded here on RUclips free for you to enjoy, and maybe then you'll reevaluate what you think of the Filipino film industry today
Tbh mahirap talaga mapanood ilang mga indie pinoy films outside film festivals
As bad as many Pinoy films are, the TV shows are even a hundred times worse.
Agree homie
If you talked to the ex employees who worked in those TV shows, they'll tell you that they literally have a production bible of ideas where they mix and match those ideas and churn out trash stories that revolve around those ideas. Example amnesia + affair + poverty + disability = (trash generic story) I have a friend who used to work on certain "TV channels", oooh boy she got overworked and underpaid also even if it's your day off expect to be called to finish a scene. I wouldn't recommend working on those types of projects unless you love to be a slave for those greedy companies.
The writing is so bad. You’re either an innocent martyr or you’re an evil monster. Nothing in between. And there are so many secret love children. So many coincidences. The characters do so many dumb things just to further the plot, which they forget about later on anyway. And when they do the “abangan” at the end of the episode, they reveal everything for the next couple of episodes.
ESPECIALLY afternoon drama. I cringed at the changes they made to Shining Inheritance. They took a good KDrama and turned it into a stereotypical telenovela.
At least tv shows kung pangit man hindi ka manghihinayang na nagsayang ka lang ng pera
I prefer Philippine historical movies like Heneral Luna and Goyo because their production is much better than other big studios.
I agree!
Also, check on out on the film Ang Dragon sa Capanganuran. The film focuses on the Philippine Revolution where, instead of Luzon, the scope points to Visayas and Mindanao; stories of the Revolution unheard.
Yes. Meron din ung GMA ng Maria Clara at Ibarra at Pulang Araw.
If you like Historical Movies like Heneral Luna and Goyo, Go Watch TV Shows like Maria Clara at Ibarra or Pulang Araw. Also Go Watch the Movie, GomBurZa.
If you like Philippine Historical Movies like Heneral Luna and Goyo, Go Watch Other Philippine Historical Movies like Jose Rizal and GomBurZa... You might also like Philippine Historical TV Shows like Ilustrado, Maria Clara at Ibarra, and Pulang Araw.
If you like Philippine Historical Movies like Heneral Luna and Goyo, Watch Other Historical Philippine Movies like Jose Rizal and GomBurZa... Also you might like Philippine Historical TV Shows like Ilustrado, Maria Clara at Ibarra, and Pulang Araw.
And yet you were involved in Easter Sunday and The Fabulous Filipino Brothers. Parehong panget.
HAHAHA PAKI SIGAW!!! pati yung movie na kasama si KC.
The jokes in those films were like 2 decades old 😭
easter sunday was legitimately one of the hardest movies to watch for me, the only saving grace was that eva noblezada was there
@@cianalcrez3693 Shall we add that those 2 decade old jokes are not even funny.
This!
are you purposely deleting the comments that discount so many of the points that you tried to make in this video? agreed, there are many problems in the Philippine entertainment industry and that includes the production of many mainstream projects, but this video title so grossly misinterprets the culture as a whole. Philippine made media isn’t for everyone, great! that’s fine, as there are so many projects we can all enjoy globally. but there have been great Filipino made art, made with Filipinos in mind, that have been singular and significant to the zeitgeist of what it means to be Filipino. this video was clearly made with the standards of other foreign media in mind, most of which doesn’t necessarily cater to Filipinos in the Philippines may need or want. that’s not always particularly fair, and when the Philippines DOES produce really groundbreaking material, even if it may not be as high budgeted as you would want, do the filipino Americans support it? did you all watch, say, Maria Clara at Ibarra, which is a prime example of great local production and acting and storytelling? Or even Hello Love, Goodbye, which is a great example of telling the story of what Filipino women live through abroad to provide for their families back home, and guess what? both of these projects are produced by mainstream outfits. what more for the independent, more adventurous creators? I get the criticism, as a Filipino living in the Philippines, I very much yearn for projects that are different, but it has to be acknowledged that the way it’s conveyed in this video makes it sound…..pretty conditional. and it needs to be said - there will ALWAYS be a time and place for a corny formulaic romcom. maybe not all the time if that’s what’s always released, true, but to look down on the genre as a whole is pretty cheap and honestly? lazy criticism.
anyway this video is getting cooked on twitter and justly so. I would have expected better criticism and some valid points are made but overall, just….? kind of ignorant of the economic and social realities of being Filipino IN the Philippines. This point isn’t to dog on the Filipinos living abroad - it’s just that if you don’t know or care to know about what’s going on in the country, then anything you say about any industry just seems half-baked, honestly.
They are deleting comments
So true! They can just say they hate pinoy romcoms and then watch marvel or some hollywood shit.
Bruh, that’s why I can’t see my recent comments, nagbubura na pala sila? Mga wala pulos.
@@hl8655this could be a better title
Constructive criticism here. I agree with a lot of points here, but this is an oversimplification of a wider scope of films. People viewing Philippine media through the lens of Westernized eyes in itself creates a distinction. As much as I also have complaints about a lot of MAINSTREAM Philippine entertainment, there are still countless Indie films and shows that can easily show the true vision of film and writing geniuses of the country. Understanding the stereotypical structures of many mainstream Filipino films has a lot to do with the social and cultural ties that everyday Filipinos go through. Viewing it from the perspective of a Filipino who grew up overseas is just not the same because we do not have the same day to day struggles. These things should also be taken into account.
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yea we saw your old title "Why Is The Philippines Still Making Bad Movies?" with an arrow saying "THIS SUCKS!"
Never Forget
We never forget
Calling Filipino movies corny tapos involved pala sila sa paggawa ng Easter Sunday at Fabulous Filipino Brothers. Pick a struggle!
Like the audacity to even imply they can save Filipino Movies but they can't even make good ones themselves. Classic Fil-Am things, they can just watch Marvel or any hollywood shit.
OMG this comment 😂🔥
LMAOAOAOAO
Just going to say, if they actually want to make films capable of winning awards in film festivals, they should humbly beg for tips from directors in the Philippines. They're begging for Western acknowledgement and adoration and yet completely unable to get any and make their films have an impact beyond their sorry echo chambers. Meanwhile, even on Twitter, foreign film afficionados are defending the Philippine film industry from this showcase of arrogance and presumptuousness after recently seeing award-winning Filipino films on film festivals or the restorations of our classics on Criterion or even the raves for Lav Diaz on obscure Internet forums.
This 💯
I’m a Fil-Am, but the irony after I heard the line “does it lie in the hands of our Filipino diaspora to save it?” a minute into the video. I’ve never chuckled so hard in my life. Fellow Fil-Ams’ definitely trying to put their unsolicited opinions on Philippine films just to be so-called “relevant” is just not it. Considering that most Fil-Ams are so out of touch of what’s truly going on in the Philippines is clearly notable. But hey, while the tea’s still hot-why not milk it more to gain more views/traction and have those dollars coming in. Right? lmao
OMG, I thought I was the only one who heard that cringe line from the beginning 😅
@@CK98630 LMAO jokoy’s movie was absolute shit how can that save it 😭 i’d rather watch the cringiest local comedy movie here than that trash
Filipinx. That is all.
seems kind of lazy to label Philippine cinema as cheesy, no? when a lot of it is C A M P on purpose, from the humor to the cinematography to the costumes to the acting. like yes, definitely not for everyone, and yes, exhausting when that is the only thing produced for audiences to receive, but to write it off just because it presents itself as is when many Filipinos have been taking back that camp and the culture many pride themselves on, the humor and the snappiness and general optimistic outlook on life and vibrancy, has a symbiotic relationship with these films: they are inspired by the people, and the people are inspired by them. like I see you put four sisters and a wedding as an example of “poor” cinema WELL it is my cinema!!!! yes give me icons crying at each other! yes give me composed middle sibling finally breaking down and revealing her insecurities!!!!! give me ofw siblings crying over how hard it is to live abroad without their families!!!!!! BUT MAKE IT FUNNY AND MAKE IT (kind of) CAMP!!!!! that is cinema and culture and iconic to me. maybe not to you! but to many Filipinos? Yes!!!! Y E S !!!!!!!
TOTOO!!! We love campy movies and that's very Filipino. As if naman walang bad movies sa ibang bansa.
omg speak your truth!!!!!! baka di nila gets yung pinoy camp humor ng pilipinas hasksksksks
there's a difference between "your cinema, relatable cinema, etc." and actually good fucking film making kid. also, you can't call any film making industry GOOD if they just keep repeating the SAME core story lines over and over and over again for nearly 20 years.
Love this comment ❤️
@@ryanreviews8566 I’m probably older than you, for one, let’s start there. and I don’t discredit your point. yes, there is an art to creating as you quote “good fucking cinema,” but what is the crime in enjoying camp cinema? hence I said I (pertaining to myself) enjoyed it. no harm done in enjoying something for myself, and that many others do too. there is a reason why the film is beloved and a popular recent cult classic. there is also a skill in creating campy filipino cinema that can hit all the points of being funny and relatable and easily accessible to the masses. it’s not necessarily good all the time, but enjoyable? fuck yeah. not everything need to be cinemalaya worthy. there is a time and place for mainstream film and independent art and they can co-exist. that’s what makes the industry rich (and the balance has been improving recently with bigger outfits trying to take more risks). no need to be hostile, I enjoy film fests (and not just mmff) and I enjoy star cinema too. if you don’t, that’s cool! just….honestly, forgive me for not caring about what constitutes good cinema for you lmao. you have your taste, I have mine. at least I know I have fun. 💁🏽♀️
"Why is the Philippines still making bad films?"
Are you implying that everything else that's being made outside the Philippine film industry is good? There are a multitude of amazing Filipino films out there, and most of them are literally only a Google search away.
If the goal of your channel really is to showcase your Filipino roots, then you're gonna have to be willing to do the work: do your research, immerse yourselves, and drop this colonial way of thinking. Do better.
EXACTLY!! sobrang generalized and poorly researched, nakagagalit
Masyadong out of reach ng ibang Fil-ams kase. Or baka tamad lang and doesn't even bother mag research or makisabay sa mga ganap sa pilipinas. It's always those fil-ams who does these critics na tip of the iceberg lang. Sorry not sorry but Mga pinoy na taga pinas pa din mas nakakaalam ng lahat ng culture at pop culture ng pilipinas.
They dont like that. Creators of this channel are stupid and outdated.. Parang si "Loob Girl" haha..
It’s interesting that the title had to be changed after the backlash, which shows there was already a disconnect with the audience. Critiquing Filipino movies is one thing, but how can you fully understand or judge them if you weren’t born or raised in the culture?
It’s not solely a matter of culture, but rather a historical, socio-political, and even an economical perspective
You came here with flawed logic, and your mind made up before watching it.
With your statement “how can you fully understand or judge them if you weren’t born or raised in the Philippines”. That’s as if you’re saying “your input regarding Noli Mè Tangere and El Filibusterismo are automatically invalid because you didn’t live in that time period. It doesn’t matter if you’re a historian who’s done deep research and due diligence, it doesn’t matter if you’re a high school student studying Jose Rizal’s literature and history, it doesn’t even matter if you’re simply a foreigner with an opinion about those two books and its impact to the Filipinos under the Spanish colonization because YOU WEREN’T THERE”
It didn’t even focus the Filipino experience, but the fall and rise of Philippine cinema. The only time it remotely tackled the Filipino experience was when they showcased the comments responding to Erik Matti’s comments about Korean media in Netflix’s top 10, Director Pepe Diokno about Filipinos projecting themselves, and other directors.
The nature regarding the decline was tackled, hence the emphasis
For the comparison on “bad Filipino movies”, they set the limitations within the regime of Philippine cinema. The mentioned “bad Filipino” movies were compared to other Filipino movies during the golden age. The writing was more prolific back then, and it was defined what made these “bad Filipino movies” lame/baduy. It was an objective critique on the massive declined level of writing and storytelling, as opposed to its predecessors in the established good Philippine cinema scene.
This point was then segued into the surge of indie films and Filipino viewers watching Korean media (because again. The tweets literally said that Philippine media tackles the same theme of infidelity, haters to lovers, and some other form of overused lazy tropes. Which brings us back to how this video is not SOLELY cultural, but also historical, socio-political, and even an economical perspective
By the way, critiquing and sympathizing something without actually being there is actually called empathy.
@@Captainf1nn I wasn’t discrediting research or empathy, but lived experience adds a unique perspective that can’t always be captured through study alone. Both are valid but offer different insights, especially when it comes to cultural nuances and identity.
Philippines DOES make great films. I've been watching a lot of Cinemalaya, and other indie releases and that's what I've realized. It's not that there arent any, rather, the current industry incentivizes the formulaic ones like romcoms, comedies, horror, etc. That the independent films are often overlooked because the big industries do not support them
100%
And not supported bit general public
The Philippines has been making great films lately we have been penetrating different film festivals and won many awards, I can’t say the same about Filipino-Americans though… 😂
Ooops! 🫣🤭😅
u guys don't know what you're talking about, filipino cinema is beyond amazing. you just haven't watched enough.
nah, this video is clearly aiming at the shitty outputs that we keep seeing from the mainstream media outlets which is absolutely correct. if you have to say "THERE ARE GOOD FILMS, YOU JUST NEED TO KEEP LOOKING" then it obviously means that most of what's floating out there is still shit.
Okay tourist. Di mo rin alam ang pinagsasabi mo
@@ryanreviews8566 "does it lie in the hands of our filipino diaspora to save it" has the "little brown brother" vibe. This take is 💩. Mind you this same group of people helped produce Easter Sunday of Jokoy.
@@ryanreviews8566you know we could probably say the same shit with american cinema but our’s doesn’t hold water since that scene is bigger philippine cinema so our words aren’t taken as seriously as yours
@@ryanreviews8566Bad take. The video is just that, an intentionally poorly researched piece that aims to discredit Filipino cinema. Plain and simple.
"Most of what's floating out there is still shit."
Well no shit! At the end of the day, the bulk of the film industry still has to follow the current trends to stay afloat. And make no mistake, this applies to the film industries worldwide, not only the Philippines. Hell, this is exactly why Disney sequels and Marvel movies still sell, not because they're good, but because they're trendy.
"does success lay in the hands of filipino diaspora?"
ahh yes i love true cinematic auteurs like jo koy
@@michaeldeguzman3852 filams and their superiority complex
The problem with my country entertainment industry is that it was dominated by two networks ( GMA and ABS-CBN ) and the lack of resources of its independent studios.
couple that with our restricted 60/40 economic investments alienating international investors and you got yourself a sludge that keeps the slow gears of progress.
@@AccipiterSmith We do not allow foreign investors to fully own our land unless you want chinese billionaires to buy the entire manila.
@@jeddvillaspin3379 yeah while I agree that's bad, what we have also makes us stagnant. Our land owners and investors are all the same big wealthy "Filipino" businessmen like Henry Sy's SM or San Miguel Corporation. If you're not already a megacorporation when you start your business, you have little chance of succeeding.
@@b.heaven9234 It is worse if it is owned by chinese billionaires. They could secretly store weapons there and use it if they invade our country.
@@jeddvillaspin3379 who said that foreign investments would fully own the land? I presume you got that pesky ignorant info from those protectionist scumbags huh?
Have you considered that your team likely has a limited perspective on filipino culture? Maybe an interview with a Filipino or two directly from the country could have helped, especially if they have the right expertise? Perhaps this was made with good intentions but I can't bring myself to completely fault others for seeing this video as a bit pretentious, even with the title alone (whether or not it was just written to reel in views).
Just saw the pinned comment, and felt like giving my full take, if you'll have it haha.
I do see potential in that you guys organized an initiative to create spaces of discussion for and by people like you. Though i personally agree with other comments noting that the research and takes in this video are a bit flimsy.. My two cents is that it could maybe have been strengthened had you included + worked directly with Filipinos/experts? (I see you were able to reach out to and collab with Filipino celebs, that's neat.) And when it comes to Filipino topics, you work on equal grounds with Filipinos? (Like when helping out a community, they're the ones taking the reins, you're merely there as support to fill in any gaps you can, if there are. Otherwise it ends up as charity work.)
So yeah hope u can be more responsible moving forward. Other Fil-ams do still need a voice. I see how your other vids have opened up spaces for thought and conversation from people who relate. If you keep up this drive a lot is really possible
He probably only interviewed Fil-Ams, not actual Filipinos
This is very poorly researched
fil-ams stop complaining and give your money to the filipino indie directors QUICK!!!
Talangka much
@@fidellerosa so, anong naachive ng comment mo na 'to? wala. try again or better yet touch grass.
Ganitong ganitong ang sinasabi ng mga dds pag binabatikos si digong eh.. " eh di kayo nlng maging presidente". Haha
One of the reasons our movie making has not progressed is the Old People in the big entertainment companies makes a decision. For us to escape from this repeating cycle of bad films we have to wait for more decades for these old people to retire and out of the game.
These films are made with Pinoy sensitivities, sure some of them are bad but it's something that Fil-Ams can't fully understand unless they've lived here long enough.. I mean I respect your struggle as sometimes not considered Pinoy enough and probably racism from Americans, I won't invalidate that because that's something that we can also never fully understand because we have not lived it..I learned from the comments section that you were involved in the making of the movie Easter Sunday, that's a film made with Fil-Am sensitivities , having been born and raised in PH I don't relate to that story. This video essay sounds quite condescending .
Of course you’re fil-ams. Great watching discrimatory content from outsiders.
Mainstream Filipino cinema, imho, is on life support. What's keeping it alive now are either the rom-coms or the passable comedies.
Festivals like Cinemalaya, Sinag Maynila, and QCinema are injecting new blood into the system.
What needs to be addressed is the cost of watching movies, make it more accessible to the general public who don't have disposable income.
Theres Heneral Luna. Well, given the fact that its 9 years old and its still great, if not better than most Fil film released today.
There's also Goyo and Gomburza
Problema di marunong magtagalog baka mabilis ang subs haha
Those who think Filipino films suck are the ones who probably don't even bother to watch Filipino films outside mainstream studios because they automatically view them as baduy or tacky. There are lesser known Pinoy films that are winning awards and gaining accolades here in the country and abroad. Go to the cinemas, attend local independent film festivals, explore more films out there. And even those produced by main studios can be considered good films too. For a local industry that has been systematically let down in favor of Hollywood films, Filipino creatives are holding the industry to the ground despite all the odds. What made these countries succeed is the patronage of the audience. Give Filipino cinema a chance!!!!
what makes you think your channel can speak over the 100 million filipinos and THEIR culture? this is not just about films but be aware that the culture you fil-ams grew up on are way different than filipinos. you only know the surface level of it like food, etc but never the struggle. so stop your “redefining filipinos” bs bc you never knew what the real definition of being a filipino is.
and why should i listen to a fil am
Huh?
@@bimbam9603 some points stated in the video were very much only stated through a fil-am's pov but portrayed through an actual filipino citizen pov. they already apologized for it tho
exactly
lmao for real
Because the spectrum is more broad than a Filipino who is sheltered in a no.2 icebox.
My mom, a lifelong fan of TFC, stopped watching after discovering K-dramas. Sadly, I find many Filipino films on Netflix cringeworthy, with humor that feels too niche and predictable plotlines that often repeat themselves. I’m really hoping the Philippines will develop its own unique style, but it seems like the veteran directors who paved the way aren’t giving the younger generation a chance to present fresh perspectives in filmmaking.
The best part of K-dramas originally was that they were cringyworthy, but in a very fruity strange way, like Boys Over Flowers.
HISTORICAL DRAMA IS OKAY BUT THERES ONLY FEW ..
@@astrahcat1212 THATS ADAPTATION OF METEOR GARDEN FROM THAILAND :>
You're right. You should have learned of Maid in Malacanang's competitors back in 2022.
@@W0MPW0MPCRYLIKEKSI wasn't that a Taiwanese adaptation? Also, all of them were adaptations of the manga "Boys Over Flowers".
what in the xenocentrism
Here’s an idea for your next video: Why do FilAms think that they have the right to comment on a culture that they don’t even belong in?
Please make sure to include all of those filam podcasts that ridicule the culture and language.
@@whatevaeva up
What podcast is that?
There are two movies that baffle me to my bones. Conspiracy (2001) and 12 Angry Men (1957). These films' setting only took place within 1 room/building, yet it has one of the best tension and drama I have seen.
The films in our country can't even reach 1/8th of that level. If you're claiming the validity of this vid's research and insights just because this person isn't Filipino enough for you, you're stupid.
@@saintielrivera6629 they’re all over tiktok. i didn’t bother to learn their names 🙄 plus filam comedians whose jokes only revolve on mocking the accent UGH
@@vojacked305 If you don’t understand the culture/language, then you do NOT have the right to an opinion, PERIOD. I doubt anyone who grew up outside of the PH understand the nuances that we have.
I ain’t listening to anybody that have american accent when pronouncing Filipino words
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It is because how conservative many people are about the theme of the films. Most of the people, particularly those who are in older generations, wanted to have a story which has a "moral lesson", while morals can be thought in many way possible. This time though, MTRCB was involved, rated "Dear Satan" as "X" because the chairman of the board argues that "Satan will never be good", but there was no basis of that statement in their guidelines. It is possible that no attack of the religion was done in the film as well, based on one of their guidelines for declaring an X-rated film.
This kind of culture will make Philippine film stagnant and would always stay in its Spanish telenovela era.
Please refer to Chapter II Sec. 2 and Chapter III Sc. 6.8 of the MTRCB Implementing Rules and Regulations February 03, 1997. Moral values and character of the people within the Republic of the Philippines are primarily based on Christian principles alongside local and indigenous sensibilities. Cultural communities could constitute churches as well, and so does their belief system.
Ultimately, mukhang justified yung MTRCB sa desisyon nila. Title pa lang, taas-noo na, tapos *children's movie* pa yun. Kung binasa mo yung synopsis ng movie, magpapakabait daw yung demonyo sa pagtatapos ng movie, syempre aalma yung mga magulang doon.
If you want Filipino movies to be fresh, don't just make new things for the sake of it or to be provocative. You have be aware of things like this as well.
Gradual Radicalism is good but not an abrupt one. Change takes time and i don't think creating a film that uses Satan as a main character and showed in a highly catholic country is anything but "Gradual"
"stay in its spanish telenovela era" are you sure????? have you been tuning out to filipino series lately? we have PULANG ARAW
Pulang Araw, Maria Clara at Ibarra, Marina, Darna (starring Angel Locsin), Amaya, Lobo, Kung Fu Kids, Palos (starring Jake Cuenca), Panday (starring Jerrico Rosales), Pangako sa'yo, Forevermore (LizQuen), The Killer Bride, and Rounin are some examples of great Filipino Tv series and far from Spanish teleseryes.
Self-hating Filipinos wouldn't know about Lav Diaz. The video mentioned Lino Brocka but doesn't actually fully understand just how influential he is even beyond the Philippines, like, Scorsese was a big fan of Brocka.
'self hating filipinos' being whitewashed filams
Some of yall out here never actually immersed yourselves in the contemporary filipino cinema and it shows. Funny how you all talksh it about Filipino cinema without understanding the social and economic realities that birthed these Films. Can you Americans learn how to immerse to Filipino experiences before even having a half-baked opinion about the Philippines? Ughh
The problem is the censorship.
Yes, MTRCB is helpful but is too strict most of the time, giving filmmakers limited stories to tell.
Yeah, I still remember the brouhaha over Shindler's List and The Bridges of Madison County back in the 90s for things like the sex scene and pubic hair respectively with Titilating Films (skin flicks) being the rage back then. Irony at its finest.
Just like the other night, I just got lost interest watching "Lumuhod Ka Sa Lupa" because of the dumb censorship: they censored guns now. Wtf was that???
Filipino films get a bad rep, but looking at how other countries turned their film industries around gives me hope. South Korea, Nigeria, India-they all found their own voice and connected with their audiences. Filipino cinema doesn’t need Hollywood’s approval to thrive; we just need to tell our stories in a way that resonates with both local and global audiences. The potential is there, and as viewers, it’s on us to support it. Maybe the real question isn’t “Why do Filipino films suck?” but “What will it take for us to support our own?” 🇵🇭🎥
Filipino films or a lot of them tend to be predictable in terms of plot to the point that almost every time I can predict what the next scene, scenario or outcome will be. Plus I'm not convinced of the acting in general, a lot of it is like the actors reading the script and forgot they're supposed to be in character and at other times they exaggerate way more than they should have.
I dunno, I can name a number of Filipino Romcoms that are similar almost to the point of formulaic. Like how many times have you seen a certain scene where the girl "accidentally falls down" and the boy catches her mid air and they share this tense moment where they're face to face almost to the point of kissing? 🙄
@@epraizer999That is the movies they present in the mainstream market. The thing is, you got to dig deeper, like really deeper if you want to find the gold. Just recently I watched a light hearted film about childhood friends going to Mount Pulag ( Roadtrip from Viva ) and damn, it's a simple story that tackles topics like mid-life crisis , strained friendships and suicide. I didn't know we have a good serial killer movie in the 90's ( Sa Aking mga Kamay, Aga Muhlach) with its own spin off series in Amazon ( Cattleya Killer). There is Smaller and Smaller Circles, a really good crime drama about a priests tracking down a serial killer and the rigid corruption and bureaucracy of the NBI ( it's in RUclips). There are tons, you just need to look. It is upsetting that they are not as promoted compared to films with your titular love teams 🙄.
“What will it take for us to support our own?”
Good acting. Good stories. Good films.
@@epraizer999I agree on the predictability, the overacting on the other hand COULD be turned into a style if it’s done in a smart way, it could become a signature.
Pano mo susuportahan? Kung it sucks nga.?
iinom kb ng Milk tea n tinda ng tropa mo kung lasang tae? Masabi lng suporta ka
this fil am bait sounding ass title
Bro Cinemalaya Indies got like 90% of the local films with artistic integrity. Kinda single-handedly and exclusively has all the best films every year. Just a shame a lot of their films aren’t commercially and regionally shown and are limited to certain venues and cinemas.
Cinemalaya is the one that has Balota, right? Is that one good too? I've heard good reviews about it and on Marian Rivera's acting.
@@lavendermarshmallowplant3229 haven’t watched it myself but you can bet it’s at least got the distinct style you get from directors that try then the average cashgrab commercial films we get occasionally
Fil ams are a different beast from Filipinos. They don't have the cultural grid to understand Filipino nuances. I haven't seen a Fil am film win awards yet.. but Filipino films have been raking awards across Southeaast Asia and Europe.
This so-called critics needs to see these films;
- Ded na si Lolo
- Markova: Comfort Gay
- Ploning
- Maynila, sa mga kuko ng liwanag
- Bwakaw
- kita kita
- Karnal
- And Tanging Ina
- T-Bird at Ako
And so on. Wag kayong mag refer lang sa mga nakikita nyo online. Yall filipinos in US should explore more than what you can critic, walang wala pa kayo sa mga napanuod ng karamihang pinoy na nasa pilipinas.
Tagalog kasi mabilis subtitles hahaha
Please include Patay na si Jesus.
I want to include:
GomBurZa
100 Tula para kay Stella
Bar Boys
Dekada '70
Bagong Buwan
Muro Ami
Jose Rizal
Oro Plata Mata
Alone/Together
Ang Babae sa Septic Tank 1,2, and 3
Quezon's Game
That thing called Tadhana
Die Beautiful
Saving Sally
Ang Larawan
Hayop ka!
Firefly
Makes me remember Magnifico, one of the best Filipino films in the past few decades. Made the japanese cry when it was shown over there.
Bruh i'm filipino and i don't even know that film exists🤣🤣
@@fuji_man Don't be afraid to try it out. It's not a matter of who watched it first, anyway.
@@fuji_manYou are? Parang di naman. lol
@@fuji_man skills issue
@@fuji_man Maybe you're too young. You can still watch it though. It's a great film.
Easter Sunday was just as bad as any mainstream movie coming out of the Philippines. Sorry, it had to be said. Pandering doesn’t make for good cinema.
Dante Basco's The Fabulous Four Brothers also was bad
Pardon me but, "Ang Babae Sa Septic Tank" franchise was WAY worse than that movie you mentioned.
@@mjjjuly The Master Chief too. It turns into a cheesy wannabe Top Gun movie
@@LumiqicEffect You win 😂
@@malibrary7053 Not only was it worse, but it was actually disgusting. I watched it with my parents and my aunt during my cousin's birthday celebration at the mall when I was about 7 years old. Even though the movie was Rated PG, the ending left me feeling traumatized.
Plot idea for a dark comedy movie: A bunch of Fil-Ams go to the Philippines to film their own idea of a GOOD Filipino film, but cone across the many difficulties of production here, like high cost of living,, bad logistics, rampant government corruption, supertyphoons, earthquakes, vvolcanic eruptions, and rampaging aswang clans. One of the characters insist being called Filipinx. Another one's favorite catch phrase is criticizing everything beginning with "Walang ganyan sa States." They each get turned into aswang, with the finale being a grand song and dance production with their new aswang family! 💃
Charot 😂
HAHAHA NOT THE FILIPINX 😂 i will never get how Fil-Ams got flamed for that suggestion! The nerve to ask Filipinos to adapt to their request is so clownish.
I suggest your next video should be “are Filipino-Americans out of touch?”
Maybe fil-ams shouldn’t make comments about Filipino issues they don’t understand? 🥰🥰🥰
should've stayed in the drafts
and filipino americans wonder why they get so much flak
Uhm, I get that the creators of this channel are Filipino Americans… But you guys don’t get to generalize the sentiments of the entire Filipino community. Touch some grass.
these are americans of Filipino descent mind you...they were never Filipino to begin with.
They're fully American with a Filipino **accident** on the side
Summary of Filipino film:
1. Adaptations: Mexicanovela, Americanovela, Koreanovela, Japanese animations
2. Romcoms
3. Love Triangles with guns involved
4. Guns and more guns
5. Horror movies that look funny.
Just like a lot of Hollywood movies :)
@@katyagrad3704 except ours are way worse
@@katyagrad3704 If that's the case I would love to see our take on a cinematic universe or our take in producing a good literary adaptation. Oh that's right we can't.
@@spicykaraage641weren't the Enteng Kabisote films essentially the "MCU" of the Philippines?
@@Xedllin Hmmm are they interconnected with other IPs with their own stand alone films and spinoffs? Not that I know of, the Enteng films are simply a franchise with a lot of sequels. Also some of the direct to youtube stuff blows our mainstream films out of the water.
This is to remind everyone that they change the title of this video from “Why is the Philippines still making bad films?” with bad thumbnail. Never Forget!
Pinoy films have a knack for using cheap reused tropes like "The Abused Wife" "Crappy Husband" "Kid goes to college and becomes a millionare" blah blah blah. IMO They're more of what the Filipinos WANT but that's on me.
Nah, that's some Wattpad type of storytelling 🤣
@@flatearthisahoax4030there WAS a wattpad adaptation 😭 idk what happened with it tho
Basically all anime isekai in Japan, atleast its not degenerate like most Western media.
Lol Kdrama vibes? Cuz Kdrama uses the poor kid becomes millionaire part 😂 ngl love those things (in kdrama)
exactly. PH cinema isn't necessarily bad. we have plenty of great editors, directors, actors etc. the issue is that they just produce what the filipino people watch and support. most of them are also underpaid so they just make do with they have esp w editing
easter Sunday does not a good comedy make I mean 😭 not funny by Hollywood standards not funny by filipino standards, honestly what a struggle.
and honestly real ironic that you mentioned relatability to everyday local life as a factor, seeing as MANY filipino films utilize being relatable through the jokes and dialogue made, the settings, and minute details like the drinking culture or interactions in public transportation. People living in the Philippines GET IT, and they enjoy it, and you might not, which is fair! but if you’re going to make a point based on that and recognize it in other countries’ film media and not in the Philippines, that’s a double standard that you should think back on.
These Fil-Ams na di naman pinanganak sa Pilipinas pero ang lakas magbigay ng kritisismo sa mga bagay na di naman nila nasasaksihan first-hand. Hindi ninyo alam ang sitwasyon ng bawat manggagawa ng pelikula, kaya ‘wag na ‘wag kayong aastang parang alam ninyo lahat.
Real😂
there's always a hint of smugness and hubris when critique of the Country comes from these foreigners
feeling inglishera yung nag comment 😂
Suggestion: why not partner with Pinoy Comic book creators or at least cultivate aspiring comic book artists/writers. Both South Korea and Japan take stories from Manhwa/Manga and make them into live action movies/series. This will widen creative sources.
Yup. That actually happened in the 1950s and 60s. Many Tagalog movies at that time were adaptations from Pilipino Komiks.
@@bukonut like Gagamboy and Darna?
@@Johanimate Most of Francisco Coching's works such as Pedro Penduko and the works of Mars Ravelo such as Lastikman, Dyesebel and Bondying were adapted into movies in the 50s and 60s. In the 70s and 80s you'd have Pablo S. Gomes komiks novels like Kampanerang Kuba and Jim Fernandez' Zuma. The Filipino movie industry has a history of taking stories from comics long before Japan and South Korea did.
@@bukonut It's a good idea that they encourage Pilipino komiks creators to give more creativity in their works so that if the film industry decides to adapt it, it'll be something extraordinary.
We have an IP problem that prevents independent filipino comic book creators to implement adaptations
There's not enough budget but it takes time to create film
Like this comment if you were here when this was a lot more ignorantly named as "Why is the Philippines still making bad films"
Aren't you guys Filipino Americans?? So you haven't stayed in the Philippines long enough to see the film evolution. Yes, they might be "cheap" "outdated" but that doesn't mean you have the right to criticize it. Don't complain. So your comparing Filipino mainstream media to international media. Huh 😒
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They have a right to criticize it but this is just poorly researched. They generalize too much and probably didn't watched many Filipino movies and understand it to a deeper level. They probably think that what they've seen are the entirety of Filipino films when they've only seen only the small percentage of it, and they didn't even dig more for what could one movie mean to the Filipino culture.
Saying our cinema sucks when you have people like Jo Koy… Maybe you should take into consideration the difference between Hollywood and Asian movies, both of which have different standards. Stop trying to impose your westernized view on Pinoy cinema.
This is something that I had noticed lately: Filipinos in diaspora has started to play the role as the representative of Filipino identity when they dont even have a clue of what theyre talking about. One time I saw this clip on tiktok on how to tell a household is filipino and they listed some things that never made sense to me, but it turns out that they meant Filipino-American, not one of those on that list could describe the typical household from the Philippines. Another one is that stand up comedian guy who was born and raised in Canada (not Jo Koy, but hes just as bad) whos spreading misinformation with his jokes like saying Filipinos are half latinos or that filipinos have spanish surnames because everyone married spanish before. And now this. The situation is so bad, like they dont even do proper research and yet they want to be the spokesperson of a country they probably havent even visited yet.
Everyone here just needs to watch more Filipino films, I think. Many of the good ones barely get screened in local cinemas, and you expect them to get sent abroad? Many of the greats are part of local indie film festivals with already v limited screenings. Major production company movies are hit or miss, yes. But some of my own favorite indie films have made it into international film festivals. A few examples: Cleaners from 2019 - a high school coming-of-age film set in the early 00s, Gospel of the Beast from 2023 (?) - also coming-of-age but with a darker storyline, and Leonor Will Never Die from the 2023 also I think - about dreams of becoming a writer and mortality. And, not in an intl film festival but since people seem to be fixated on historical dramas, Gomburza, released Dec 2023. Those are just the movies off the top of my head.
Filipino movies don't suck. Accessibility to them does - whether its the audience struggling to catch screenings, or the filmmakers struggling with resources and meddling corporate heads.
Stop generalizing Filipino movies. This year alone, over 30 quality Filipino films have been released. While the budgets may be modest, many of these films boast impressive storytelling and production value. If you haven't seen the recent standout movies, it’s worth exploring more. If you're only encountering subpar films, then perhaps the ones you're checking aren't representative of the industry's growth. If someone recommended them to you, consider the source-they might not have the best understanding of what's truly good. Philippine cinema has evolved significantly from what it used to be.
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Actually we have produce sensible films that actually have been recognized and won awards in international stage. Many historical/period movies have been produce but the general public don't have the pallet for it. So business wise who would produce such sensible films. It's not the movies that are baduy but the general movie goers.
Exactly. That’s why I’m shaking head reading comments that solely blame the producers.
syempre magaling na naman mga fil am 🙄 there are so many filipino films that are way better than fil-am movies made in the last few years stfuuu
We need key people to invest in new players in the industry. If you look around, there are so many talented Filipino writers, film-making enthusiasts, animators, actors/actresses, voice actors, etc. who have NEW ideas and are willing to be experimental with creative output. The problem is how do they get the chance? How do we push new talents forward to take significant roles in the industry?
By any chance, have you ever heard of The Lovers?
It’s an animated movie being produced by Filipino Artist. Right now it’s still in production, but a trailer has been released.
I have a feeling you’ll be very delighted to what it looks like as the premise is esentially reinventing the genres and elements Filipinos likes in their movies: love stories, drama, and mermaids.
@@blazingstorm9351 Hi! Yes, I've heard of it. If I'm not mistaken, it's being produced by Studio Heartbreak? I'm excited and happy to know that many of us are enthusiastic about it. Hopefully, more Filipino-led creative works would come out in the coming years.
Thanks for your comment.🙂
Asian-American but not Filipino, y'all are getting cooked on Twitter rn
figure out how to say a proper Filipino tongue twister first without stuttering nor a western accent then I'll start listening
such a weird take to come from outsiders who quite literally have lived their whole lives succumbing to western ideals and only going back to their Filipino roots whenever they can profit off of it
Fil-Ams should just go back reviewing Jollibee instead of Filipino filmography
They can review anything they want especially crappy filipino filmography.
@@rpv220 and then making statements with "savior complex" intent
Fil-Ams stop giving opinions about the Philippines challenge!
Palibhasa nasa Jollibee, LOOMpia, adobow lang ang personality. 🥳
lakas makasabi ng "badoy" ni koya wahahaha.
We need variety because everything we make is the same romcom and remakes so I feel like there's no substance. Action films are behind because of the budget but I think that won't be problem if they're not being taxed temporarily for the next 3 years. Political drama and historical films are the kind of films that I want to see but with all the corruption or controversies I think it will be difficult to make those films. Horror or thriller is something we're already working on and given some of our recent films belong to this genre I think we'll be fine here. Animation is probably something we should try more often because if Trese turned out well then maybe we should look into making more animation.
Another issue I see is the fact that there is a "big thing of the time" in releases. Like around early 2010s the "thing" was Wattpad. Late 2010s were more YA romcoms, think like Ex and Whys or Hello Love Goodbye. Recently it seems to have shifted to historical films. Filmmakers are focusing and spending so much time and effort on the "thing of the time" that other genres get left out.
GMA did it with Barangay 143 and it’s horrible. The Super Inggo animation is somewhat decent but not memorable. The mostly good ones are from indies like Hayop Ka!, but this film is targeted at adults. rpg Metanoia is one of the rare mainstream studio animation that’s really good.
pag filam bawal magsalita
FilAms think that they are high and mighty compared to their brothers in the Philippines. It's unfortunate that some of these Americanized Filipinos dismiss Filipino movies as "crappy" or "worst." Such a viewpoint often overlooks the rich storytelling, cultural depth, and unique perspectives they offer. Like any film industry, there are gems and misses, but it's important to appreciate the artistry and effort behind them rather than generalize.
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Tell me you're Fil-Am without telling me you're Fil-Am...
Fil am lang naman sila kasi born and raised sila don, or baka nga iba dyaan nag migrate lang naman. Lol RT lang
@@caljernes mga conyo lang datingan., mga di pa naranasan tumira sa pinas
there's the Filipino migrants...and then there's the diaspora
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Films and tv series in the Philippines are still stuck with early 2000s theme. I grew up there and I never really liked entertainment industry especially the love teams. They don’t have new ideas and they just keep recycling the same themes and storylines. I remember Melay had an interview with Oggie Diaz and she told him about her work in Korea, how advanced their technology is, everyone eats together during break time. Koreans are punctual and really commits to the project while they were filming. She said they were like a big family working together to create something special but in the Philippines, actors and people working behind the scene don’t really get along and they’re unorganised that’s why it takes a long time for them to finish projects.
your opinion is also 10 years behind. shows what you know
This comment proves that you should explore more Filipino films and series. Our series needs a lot of improvement but we have many good quality films with interesting themes and good plots. There are many good indie films and movies from Cinemalaya and Pista ng Pelikulang Pilipino.
African-Americans and other non toxic dual nationalities can be both. But no, not Fil-Ams. Fil-Ams are white Filipinos that really try to be Filipinos, but they do really try to be white person themselves. I said what I said.
pag fil-am wala dapat opinyon sa ganitong usapan. kadiri!
Paanong iyak 😂
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Gusto lang nila pagkakitaan ung Filipino views sa totoo lang 😅😂😅 filams mism pinoy baiters
There are bad Filipino films, just like how Korea, China and India have theirs too. But honestly, it makes me want to know more from someone who's in the industry as well. Is it actually because Filipino films are that bad? Is it because of the local taste? Are producers and studios monopolizing the industry? Is there no quality control? Are Filipino films not up to par? I dont know, There's just so many questions and factors that can also be answered by someone who's in the industry.
I haven't directly asked these questions, but I've attended some lectures by creatives who've worked on projects for the entertainment industry, and many of them have more or less expressed an awareness for the general quality of their work _when working with these local studios or products_ . Many of them have also worked on international projects that they know are better, and are blunt in admitting that the reason for this is they just have to adjust to the nature of the industry. When working for, say, abs-cbn, they just have a particular style or routine they have to follow even if they aren't proud of the output--likewise for foreign or just different productions in general, those have a style or environment or culture that they think helps them better their work.
Is this the previous "Why Philippines making bad movies?" Lol.
Yup
Came here because of what I saw on Twitter about the previous title of this clip. The thing is mahirap magresearch at magcomment sa topic without actually being there & witnessing/experiencing it first hand. So its really about respect, doing GOOD research and making sure to widen the perspective- consider the audience when you’re delivering the message.
Never forget that the original title of this video was "Why is the Philippines still making bad films?" with a thumbnail of a girl exaggeratingly eating popcorn and the word "This sucks" on it. 😬
I wish they’d make 😭 a Spanish Filipino film set during the commonwealth and how English dominated the language of the Filipinos
No, cause, I would love more historical films that arent just glamourized documentaries or comedies. Our country has a lot of history, so why not show it?
... so the title should be "Why are most Pinoy movies backed by a big-money studios like Star Cinema, Regal (RIP mother Lilly), and Viva Films so unbearable to watch?"
Our films have to step away from the dragging,formulaic storylines,overuse of dialogue and low brow content.
Films such as Heneral Luna,Goyo,Quezon’s game show that we can produce quality films and teach history as well.
So far the only mainstream film that had good cinematography and good quality are MiM and MoM.
Don't forget Gomburza
For how good Heneral Luna was.
I would like to see a prequel, waaaaay back. Like the origin story of Lapu-Lapu.
There are still commendable Filipino films, but they are not easy to discover. Most of them come from independent filmmakers. In contrast, mainstream Filipino cinema appears to be beyond redemption and may be better off fading away. Additionally, one must question the persistent desire for validation from the US media and film industry. Given the current Hollywood productions, isn't it better to find inspiration and recognition from other places?
When they make a movie, most of the time they didn't care about the story, just slap the BIG CELEBRETIES in there that sometimes don't even fit in the role of the character. If you live in the Philippines, You know what I'm talking about.
Vice Gand and Vic Sotto on everything
What was the last Filipino movie you watched?
I feel like that fits Warner Bros. more
it works if it's a comedy
but if it's anything else
not really advisable
You're so locked in the mainstream. Have you watched other production films. Indie movoes. Maube not. Youre ignorant. You cant have a say.
what do u even know about filipino films
70's-90's Filipino action genre: you just focus on appearance, we are only focus on skills and talent
During college, I had a professor that was a writer for a certain TV network. This was around 2007 or so. According to her, writers were at the mercy of producer's(?), I don't exactly remember what she called them, they decide the love teams, the film/tele novela to be produced, the writers can only pitch their story in a very very limited time. If they fail to get the producer's attention then unfortunately their story won't get accepted. She also mentioned that there are formulas followed to make sure it sells. The whole thing just sounds so stifling and kills creativity
The one of the reasons on Filipino films as bad is lack of universality or sense of connection despite of the difference. The writing in Philippines film is based on the few group of people. This situation don't help the Philippines film marketing.
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Of courseeee, yall are filams