It sounds like they were completely missing the point of what people enjoyed about the original Everquest. So much of the fun was meeting people, leveling up, getting stronger and having the world and all of it's mysteries slowly unlock for you. I can't imagine trying to craft a compelling in-game story and quest structure while also accommodating the fact that the game world itself is constantly changing because of player input. Better I think to create a system for GM's or developers to drive dynamic events, both large and small, to add flavor to the game play when people log on. Asheron's Call did this really well.
EQNext is the only game where I have EVER given any consideration to a lawsuit for fraud (i bought one of the founder packs). What they did is wrong, if not legally, certainly ethically. The moment they fired Smokejumper (Georgeson), that was the end of EQNext. To say I'm pissed, even over a year later, would be an understatement.
Now I know why. I was a landscape architect and interior designer in Second Life. I loved the building tools in SL and had a massive inventory. My business partner and I had a successful castle building sales lot and romantic sim. The novelty wore off SL and I moved to EQ2 in 2015. I enjoy the RP and adventure portions of EQ2 over SL immensely. However, EQ2's building tools are very rudimentary and qualitative. SL's building tools looked like AutoCad lite to me. EQN would have been perfect. Adventure combined with excellent building tools. I'm sad as I was really looking forward to all of that, including destruction. :( .
I never had the chance to play Second Life back when it was very popular however that sounds really awesome the level of creativity within the game.. I played a lot of Landmark back in the alpha / beta and the building tools were a lot of fun it really is a shame :(
At the height of our business in SL, my partner (in Australia) was making $40K USD per year (2006 - 2008). However, in the crash of 2008, discretionary income was scarce for players, SL was expensive and vendors like us lost business. Also, theft and copying became rampant...many vendors simply closed shop. We lasted until 2015. When we stopped breaking even we closed our shop. I have in EQ2 the region 'Oakmyst' which is technically called a 'House', within that I have built (assembled) a large manor home, guest house, hanging fairy house, elf house, grotto and dock with a ship. The cost to me if I had this in SL would be over $300 a month to maintain as it's as large as an entire Second Life sim. When I get bored of building in EQ2, I just go adventuring and questing... something not available in SL. Also, the artwork in EQ2 combined with the music is absolutely stunning and transports you. If I could merge the building tools of SL with EQ2... I'd be in gaming Heaven... I'd also like to bring my massive SL inventory of 10 years into EQ2 as well. :( Oh well, a girl can dream. Thanks for this video, it was very well done and informative. :)
I'm glad you enjoyed the video and thank you for sharing your story, it really is amazing.. this is why I created the "What Happened To..?" series to proved quick, fun & informative videos on the games we love that either never made release or didn't live up to the hype and spark discussion on how people felt about the games and share their stories :)
I haven't been able to play EverQuest II because of deteriorating mobility. EverQuest Next was going to be the next game I was going to play. For this game, I wanted to put forth effort in figuring out how to get back to gaming. I was so disappointed when I found out that Daybreak had ceased development! As far as what went wrong, I think what went wrong was that they had too much ambition. I love the idea of a sandbox world where the world changes as you do stuff in the game. However, there was one aspect that I didn't like. Arguably, it's one of the biggest aspects of sandbox gaming. I didn't like the fact that you could destroy parts of the world. I don't like the idea that somebody can come into the beautifully rendered castle, pound it into dust, and there would no longer be a castle. One of the aspects of MMORPGs that draws me in is the beautiful virtual world and its buildings. If you could destroy parts of the world, all it would take for somebody to ruin it for you would be for them to get bored and start destroying everything around you. Otherwise, I like the idea that your actions affect the story. I like the idea of what you do during a quest might affect the next part of the storyline. I also like that aggressive elements would have more on their mind than attacking your character!
I was in Landmark Alpha from day 1 and enjoyed it until the new owners dropped the prices of flags by 60% just a day or two after putting them in the marketplace, then refused to adjust my purchase of hundreds of dollars worth of flags, even though they had just officially “apologized” to the community for the initial high prices. They wouldn’t adjust the sale, wouldn’t escalate my request ticket and didn’t care that they were going to lose this high-spending player over this raw deal, so I left. And I will never spend another penny with Daybreak again. Ironically, they did me a favor because the game folded within the year, so they saved me a lot of money.
The entire thing was a fraud to recoup their loses while attempting to make EQIII... 3 times and failing miserably. I honestly don't believe they were making a game, i think they made a convincing pitch to sell Lankmark to people, then they sold their company to columbus nova and the rest is history.
I feel like they should not have made Landmark a separate game. I always thought they should have made Landmark more like a module for EQN sort of like how Star Citizen handles its module, where as they build the game, the world that you get to explore and fight in gets bigger and bigger until the game is complete. Now we will never have it. :(
Yeah i was really bumbe dabout EQ next. knew it was going to down hill after Columbus nova bought it! but now im hyped for ASHES OF CREATION! :) im funding that puppy! i need something to take me away from wow lol
Never played Any of the Everquest series. But this one seemed like a lot of fun! such a shame its discontinued. Are they ever going to continue and maybe finish the game for release? or did they cancel it completely.
day1 trailblazer here :D played landmark 24/7. i actually believe that they had to stop development because they were ashamed of the content quality produced by players vs their own stuff and figuring NEXT would become a 100% player creations gameworld. so they found a cheap excuse in " not being fun" actually saying it was unfun to see players create so much better stuff with an engine we just cant handle properly.
The reason Player made Great stuff was a Big Bug that we were not suppose to be able to do in the First place and the engine fixing it then Daybreak fit it as best they could so in the end Nothing could not be Made. So they themselves killed EQN. Really Landmark was the tools to make EQN and never should of seen the light to players But Dave wanted us to make a Game and the Developers were not happy. Landmark was suppose to only be the tool set and Dave try hard to make it a game.
2020 and i'm still pissed off and hurt from its cancellation.. a true revolutionary step in the stale mmorpg genre.. this wasn't just another shiny coat of paint on top of a dead concept.. 2020 and all the current and coming mmorpg's are still just a new coat of paint.
+Sandbox Gaming Never heard of it before, I wanna see some of your Planet Coaster creations again! If you could do a serie on PC where you build a park on time lapse with comment i would love that too
+Wal Of The Mart Glad you enjoyed the PC videos! I have another coaster with a different theme in the works atm and a new series with tips and tricks for building different themes in the PC Alpha also I'm hoping to do more speed building so be sure to watch out for them! :)
I was really hyped for it and also bought into the Landmark early access. It's a shame the SOE was sold to an investment firm which "restructured" but there's nothing we can do about it I guess.
EQNext was already failing when Daybreak took over. You can't look at it as if everything was going great then Daybreak came along and ruined the development. Sony new it was a money pit and they sold off the company. Daybreak looked at what was completed and what still needed to be done and they, along with others knew it was not going to happen so they pulled the plug. Ohh and some of the "senior" devs that were let go. I can bet it went like something from Office Space where employees sat down with "the bobs" and were asked, what do you say you do here?
I am disappointed. I feel like they were trying to do to much. Didn't have a clear vision. But I am still would have liked to see it try. I have no idea how players would react to such a game. If you can destroy the world can you build it too then its a different game.
Late to this video, but EQ Next would have taken gaming away from the tired, overplayed model of loot, levels, upgrades, and vanity items built around a PvP framework. Too bad. Game designers need to get out more and look beyond what everyone else is doing and copying that. There are still aspects of Everquest I that go way beyond WoW's refined, but predictable gameplay.
im glad that this never made out, this would have trashed already ruined EQ franchise. Original EQ and several of its expansions will live forever in my memories.
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@@mattstansbeary3068 i want EQ2 with same feel and new content and graphics. oh and embers adrift was a joke right? just looked it up and are u getting paid to promot it or..? it looks like absolut shit
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Really sad was looking forward to this game
me too :( I was so hyped playing Landmark and building things but to learn next was canceled was upsetting.
It sounds like they were completely missing the point of what people enjoyed about the original Everquest. So much of the fun was meeting people, leveling up, getting stronger and having the world and all of it's mysteries slowly unlock for you. I can't imagine trying to craft a compelling in-game story and quest structure while also accommodating the fact that the game world itself is constantly changing because of player input.
Better I think to create a system for GM's or developers to drive dynamic events, both large and small, to add flavor to the game play when people log on. Asheron's Call did this really well.
and so did they miss what people loved about landmark.
EQNext is the only game where I have EVER given any consideration to a lawsuit for fraud (i bought one of the founder packs). What they did is wrong, if not legally, certainly ethically. The moment they fired Smokejumper (Georgeson), that was the end of EQNext. To say I'm pissed, even over a year later, would be an understatement.
Now I know why. I was a landscape architect and interior designer in Second Life. I loved the building tools in SL and had a massive inventory. My business partner and I had a successful castle building sales lot and romantic sim. The novelty wore off SL and I moved to EQ2 in 2015. I enjoy the RP and adventure portions of EQ2 over SL immensely. However, EQ2's building tools are very rudimentary and qualitative. SL's building tools looked like AutoCad lite to me. EQN would have been perfect. Adventure combined with excellent building tools. I'm sad as I was really looking forward to all of that, including destruction. :( .
I never had the chance to play Second Life back when it was very popular however that sounds really awesome the level of creativity within the game.. I played a lot of Landmark back in the alpha / beta and the building tools were a lot of fun it really is a shame :(
At the height of our business in SL, my partner (in Australia) was making $40K USD per year (2006 - 2008). However, in the crash of 2008, discretionary income was scarce for players, SL was expensive and vendors like us lost business. Also, theft and copying became rampant...many vendors simply closed shop. We lasted until 2015. When we stopped breaking even we closed our shop.
I have in EQ2 the region 'Oakmyst' which is technically called a 'House', within that I have built (assembled) a large manor home, guest house, hanging fairy house, elf house, grotto and dock with a ship. The cost to me if I had this in SL would be over $300 a month to maintain as it's as large as an entire Second Life sim. When I get bored of building in EQ2, I just go adventuring and questing... something not available in SL. Also, the artwork in EQ2 combined with the music is absolutely stunning and transports you.
If I could merge the building tools of SL with EQ2... I'd be in gaming Heaven... I'd also like to bring my massive SL inventory of 10 years into EQ2 as well. :( Oh well, a girl can dream. Thanks for this video, it was very well done and informative. :)
I'm glad you enjoyed the video and thank you for sharing your story, it really is amazing.. this is why I created the "What Happened To..?" series to proved quick, fun & informative videos on the games we love that either never made release or didn't live up to the hype and spark discussion on how people felt about the games and share their stories :)
I haven't been able to play EverQuest II because of deteriorating mobility. EverQuest Next was going to be the next game I was going to play. For this game, I wanted to put forth effort in figuring out how to get back to gaming. I was so disappointed when I found out that Daybreak had ceased development!
As far as what went wrong, I think what went wrong was that they had too much ambition.
I love the idea of a sandbox world where the world changes as you do stuff in the game. However, there was one aspect that I didn't like. Arguably, it's one of the biggest aspects of sandbox gaming.
I didn't like the fact that you could destroy parts of the world. I don't like the idea that somebody can come into the beautifully rendered castle, pound it into dust, and there would no longer be a castle. One of the aspects of MMORPGs that draws me in is the beautiful virtual world and its buildings.
If you could destroy parts of the world, all it would take for somebody to ruin it for you would be for them to get bored and start destroying everything around you.
Otherwise, I like the idea that your actions affect the story. I like the idea of what you do during a quest might affect the next part of the storyline.
I also like that aggressive elements would have more on their mind than attacking your character!
they lied about the game and they couldn't get it done and sony got fed up with there bullshit and sold them
I was in Landmark Alpha from day 1 and enjoyed it until the new owners dropped the prices of flags by 60% just a day or two after putting them in the marketplace, then refused to adjust my purchase of hundreds of dollars worth of flags, even though they had just officially “apologized” to the community for the initial high prices.
They wouldn’t adjust the sale, wouldn’t escalate my request ticket and didn’t care that they were going to lose this high-spending player over this raw deal, so I left. And I will never spend another penny with Daybreak again.
Ironically, they did me a favor because the game folded within the year, so they saved me a lot of money.
The entire thing was a fraud to recoup their loses while attempting to make EQIII... 3 times and failing miserably. I honestly don't believe they were making a game, i think they made a convincing pitch to sell Lankmark to people, then they sold their company to columbus nova and the rest is history.
I feel like they should not have made Landmark a separate game. I always thought they should have made Landmark more like a module for EQN sort of like how Star Citizen handles its module, where as they build the game, the world that you get to explore and fight in gets bigger and bigger until the game is complete. Now we will never have it. :(
i believe it. it was likely not so fun. I wonder what value a building is that takes effort to build and is easily destroyed by other players.
Yeah i was really bumbe dabout EQ next. knew it was going to down hill after Columbus nova bought it! but now im hyped for ASHES OF CREATION! :) im funding that puppy! i need something to take me away from wow lol
Poor Everquest :( Hope They Make Another Game, It Wouldn't Be The Same Without It.
in short it was vapor wear all hype and no substance.
Never played Any of the Everquest series. But this one seemed like a lot of fun! such a shame its discontinued. Are they ever going to continue and maybe finish the game for release? or did they cancel it completely.
day1 trailblazer here :D played landmark 24/7. i actually believe that they had to stop development because they were ashamed of the content quality produced by players vs their own stuff and figuring NEXT would become a 100% player creations gameworld. so they found a cheap excuse in " not being fun" actually saying it was unfun to see players create so much better stuff with an engine we just cant handle properly.
The reason Player made Great stuff was a Big Bug that we were not suppose to be able to do in the First place and the engine fixing it then Daybreak fit it as best they could so in the end Nothing could not be Made. So they themselves killed EQN. Really Landmark was the tools to make EQN and never should of seen the light to players But Dave wanted us to make a Game and the Developers were not happy. Landmark was suppose to only be the tool set and Dave try hard to make it a game.
It was the best MMO ever I played .... sad(((
I wanted to play this it would be so cool
Daybreak is shitty ! H1Z1 Player here :)
2020 and i'm still pissed off and hurt from its cancellation.. a true revolutionary step in the stale mmorpg genre.. this wasn't just another shiny coat of paint on top of a dead concept.. 2020 and all the current and coming mmorpg's are still just a new coat of paint.
This was an illusion, to sell people a game that would never be.
Is this Minecraft?
What are your thoughts on the cancellation of EverQuest Next? Were you hyped for its release?
+Sandbox Gaming Never heard of it before, I wanna see some of your Planet Coaster creations again! If you could do a serie on PC where you build a park on time lapse with comment i would love that too
+Wal Of The Mart Glad you enjoyed the PC videos! I have another coaster with a different theme in the works atm and a new series with tips and tricks for building different themes in the PC Alpha also I'm hoping to do more speed building so be sure to watch out for them! :)
The irony here being that WoW was a rip off of EverQuest in it's early days.
I was really hyped for it and also bought into the Landmark early access. It's a shame the SOE was sold to an investment firm which "restructured" but there's nothing we can do about it I guess.
It still makes me sad
I came here trying to track down an open sandbox for EQNext. Every path I take dead ends. I'm willing to pay money for this. Any ideas? Any links? TIA
EQNext was already failing when Daybreak took over. You can't look at it as if everything was going great then Daybreak came along and ruined the development. Sony new it was a money pit and they sold off the company. Daybreak looked at what was completed and what still needed to be done and they, along with others knew it was not going to happen so they pulled the plug. Ohh and some of the "senior" devs that were let go. I can bet it went like something from Office Space where employees sat down with "the bobs" and were asked, what do you say you do here?
I am disappointed. I feel like they were trying to do to much. Didn't have a clear vision. But I am still would have liked to see it try. I have no idea how players would react to such a game. If you can destroy the world can you build it too then its a different game.
Thoughts. Bullshit
Reasons. Greed
I have being playing eq1 and 2 for nearly half my life!!! I feel so let down by it
It was't fun?
eq next didnt even feel like a eq game. stick with 2
Late to this video, but EQ Next would have taken gaming away from the tired, overplayed model of loot, levels, upgrades, and vanity items built around a PvP framework. Too bad. Game designers need to get out more and look beyond what everyone else is doing and copying that. There are still aspects of Everquest I that go way beyond WoW's refined, but predictable gameplay.
This game would have sucked ass. Another watered down version of EQ. Pantheon will be the game to play.
If it ever releases... at this point i mean daaaaaaang.
Maybe No Man's Sky next? Relly wondering what's about it now tho it's not really dead yet
im glad that this never made out, this would have trashed already ruined EQ franchise.
Original EQ and several of its expansions will live forever in my memories.
straden79
Kingdom sky's
Echoes faydar
Deserts of flame
These are the highlights of any gaming experience that I'm sure I will never come close to again.
beta much?
it just wasn't EQ is whas a weard WOW and modern ugly graphics.
They got their Butts Kicked by World of Warcraft and they were Trying to beat them with EQN and Failed. You want EQ 1999 play Embers Adrift.
@@mattstansbeary3068 i want EQ2 with same feel and new content and graphics. oh and embers adrift was a joke right? just looked it up and are u getting paid to promot it or..? it looks like absolut shit