What a super cool thing to put in. It's definitely a wee bit more work than necessary, but that's why it's cool; having Noelle's goofier animations fade away and get more serious is the perfect way to subconsciously tell the player how much more detached and violent Noelle is getting. Big kudos to Toby and the team for stuff like this.
I feel like the work is justified, mainly because for the attacking and defending, if you only had 1 of them it wouldn’t work in the other route. Their personality changes so much because of snowgrave if they had cowardly animations it wouldn’t make sense. Likewise they wouldn’t have super confident and magical animations when they are still confused as to what on earth is happening.
What I think is scary is that she is ACTUALLY getting stronger Not just with her magic Just generally tougher. Plus she literally uses a wall of ice to defend herself that's as literal as you can get
That tracks with how Undertale interpreted levels. Getting stronger means becoming more detached from your emotional pain, and more willing to do violence to others.
Very minor (probably not even worth a video), but also Berdly gets some changes during the Snowgrave Route: his facial expression in battle is serious instead of smirking; this also includes when he transforms his halberd into a spear, and his weapon will lack its "eyes", until Noelle cast Snowgrave, which, together with Berdly, will look surprised.
Also, throughout the snowgrave route, Noelle’s “boldness” stat slowly rises from -12. I think once it passes 0 is when you get these animations. The more enemies you kill the higher Noelle’s boldness stat gets.
You get these animations after getting the freeze ring. Her boldness stat increases during a normal playthrough. It's the coldness stat that increases as you freeze enemies
Right. Boldness seems to represent how well a character can defy the SOUL's choices. Suzie has one of the highest Boldness stats and she consistently ignores the SOUL's choices. Meanwhile, Noelle starts with one of the lowest. It'd be weird if it started rising in the Weird Route considering it's the route she has the least amount of agency in.
@@Birthday888 That said, after she kills Berdly, she does basically say 'fuck this shit I'm out' and leaves the party, so she does defy the Soul at least once.
@@subprogram32 But she's also connected with the SOUL enough to be able to somehow hear it despite it being a whisper rather than a yell like the others.
Poor Noelle Going from so innocent and confused that she swats at enemies To a dulled cryomancer brushing off hits like they they're not much (Guessing getting downed is the same in both?)
The snowgrave ones definitely show how much she changes while with Kris on the route, basically Kris (or well, us.) act sorta like a suppressant for the feelings of being weak that Noelle often has, as we make her stronger, she loses some emotion, becoming more powerful in the form of getting more health not just physically affect her but also mentally, and if we were to go over the top and command her to cast Snowgrave onto Berdly, we make her fully break mentally for a moment when it’s being casted, she basically walked away after the battle cause she was mentally exhausted and tired after casting that cause she mentally lost her mind for a moment while Snowgrave was being casted.
Here's another neat detail. On a Weird Route, Noelle's attacks will never miss. If you intentionally let her bar go all the way to the end, her attack will still land.
I am convinced that Noelle's response to the tragedy (whatever it was) was to be sad and afraid but she has the full capacity for a Chara-like response as shown in this route
Both are making Noelle stronger Both are making Noelle somewhat more "confident" Both gives her a new experience of life One makes her filled with overwhelming emotion, one numbs her emotion One is standing up herself (in the end), one is forced and brainwashed One is getting closer to know herself better, one is distancing herself to kill better
It’s so sad how taking damage barely bothers her in the snowgrave route. Probably because when you give her the thorn ring she constantly takes damage so she’s gotten used to it. It’s kinda horrible
Well that's the thing, she's not standing up for herself like she does in pacifist, she's being completely manipulated and brainwashed to do your every bidding. You're not empowering her (beyond making her physically and magically stronger), you're breaking her down even more than she already is
She seems a lot more confident in snowgrave but also more troubled and conflicted. I dont see why. She has ice magic. She can just freeze her troubles away. Enemy attacking? Freeze em! Got crippling debt? Freeze it! Feeling guilty because you may have ended many lives all at the request of some violent lunatic claiming to be your friend that you are too meek to stand up against? Just freeze it!
I haven’t really seen anyone talk about her “getting attacked” animations. In the normal route, she jumps back which is understandable. But in snowgrave, she flinches the tiniest bit. As if she’s almost...desensitised to being attacked....or maybe just accepts the pain.
She even said it. After a certain point, the battles were just blurring together. The pain stopped mattering as much. And after she got the Thorn Ring, she was in *constant* pain, so pain was just another inevitability.
Berdlys expressions also change in the snowgrave boss as well. His idle changes to a meaner face, which is very easy to spot. But what i find cool is how his expression during the halberd attack changes too. Usually, he charges the attack with a smirky face, but in snowgrave, its more fierce, like with the idle. A minor change, sure, but the fact it changes just adds onto the detail that was put into this route.
YOOOO the way she moves to get into battle position in snowgrave is so haunting, she moves like a ghost in a cold lonely night, not like the silly and hopelessly crushing girl we know. These details just make it all better
My favorite is her damage one showing a light flinch as she takes damage, showing how she is feeling stronger and less afraid of pain (or perhaps you could say more numb to it.) Idk it's interesting I like seeing Noelle more confident but just wish it didn't come at the cost of Birdly's life lmao.
As the route continued, the pain stopped mattering, and once she got the Thorn Ring, she was constantly in pain, so more didn't really change anything.
It's so eerie to see that noelle in snowgrave is looking at the menu (player's command) instead of the enemy in the normal route. Kind of shows what she fears/has her full attention more in both routes.
I love minor details like this that enforces whats happening. In the normal route she is goofy and timid. In the snow grave route she is more serious and is clearly becoming "stronger".
I think the ending the battle and defending one are the worst changes.. in the ending the battle it’s like a snow globe prison, one she has shook multiple times covering everything in snow but no matter how hard she shakes the prison won’t dissipate. I also think defending is pretty sad because of the way she is completely reliant on her magic as if she and it are separate beings with the magic being dominant and her nothing but a fragile puppet that needs protecting
I see it more as her accepting the true strength of her ice powers and letting it become a more firm part of her, and letting it block hits for her and fight for her with incredible strength instead of if she were to be fearful of it and try to avoid using it, which she does at first.
This is very relevant to undertale and deltarune's way of explaining lv and exp. our normal trio are characters who arent going to be effected by acting differently for different reasons; Kris is controlled by the player, susie has already hurt a lot of people so her lv and exp are high enough to where it doesnt effect her much, and Ralsei who knows they're facing darkeners and there actions have little significance or repercussions. Noelle, on the other hand, has probably never harmed a fly and doesn't know darkeners have less impactful lives. for al she knows, she just killed a real person, or at least badly hurt them, and that's something she won't ever be able to take back. also, about birdly, she probably thinks she killed him too. i find it unlikely that birdly would be truly killed by snowgrave, but if he is, that is something that will solidify these thoughts and darken her heart. all this, conveyed in subtle animation changes.
Hm, i really hope that this isn’t the last time we get to see Noelle as a party member, it would be quite refreshing to see Noelle’s animations eventually become something more similar to her Snowgrave animations, just more (let’s say) healthier?
Bless you for this! I've been looking for someone to compile all the different animations, since people usually only bring up the battle start one and the victory one c:
Also there's two animations that comprise for Snowgrave. The snow part is one, and her floating up is presumably part of her Ice Trancer class/method of casting.
it's something really interesting to see. she loses her fear of fighting, and is slowly conditioned into thinking killing things is just normal. abandons her lackluster stance, being more concentrated and cold when attacking or defending. no longer using exxagerated poses, she's used to dealing and taking damage, reacting to it casually. instead of being relieved when leaving battle, she just adds it as one more kill to her list. the player REALLY gets into her head.
I remember first seeing video of Snowgrave and feeling like something was off, but I couldn't really put my finger on it. Crazy how much effort Toby put in for reveals like this
Bro this is why noelle is an interesting character to me, its the fact that she knows what’s happening to kris and knows they’re being puppeteered. It all comes to me because of her snowgrave animation when the fight starts. Notice how she looks like she is being pulled into battle and she doesn’t think anything of it because she is getting S T R O N G E R
Noelle on Normal: Downright adorable. Noelle on Snowgrave: Calculative. (Her end Battle Animation has her shroud herself in a Sphere of Cold... Funnily enough, the ability is similar to the Warframe Frost's fourth ability, Snowglobe.)
Noelle’s Snowgrave battle starting animation hit me like a brick when I realized its significance. Its like someone is pulling a string behind her, dragging her into battle while she’s just swaying listlessly, which pretty much summarizes her situation in that route.
“I’ve made Noelle into a proper fighter!” “You fucked up a perfectly good cinnamon roll character is what you did. Look at them. They’ve got a demolished moral compass.”
I like how her animations change based on the route you're playing as if her very personality changed. Which it did. She went from being afraid of everything and being hesitant or afraid to attack to outright doing it like it's no big deal and not hesitating when given the order to attack. The only time she hesitated to attack was when Kris ordered her to attack Berdly with Snowgrave.
Hmm... while she's calmer in all her other animations, it looks like she's actually more fearful in her idle Snowgrave stance than she is in her idle normal stance. Her eyes shrink down which is usually animation shorthand for fear (the whole 'irises contract when frightened' thing).
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And remember: She only has true regret if she takes out Berdly. If she fails in any way, she has the kill count, the power, and potentially even Snowgrave, but is still the chipper girl next door.
The fact that Noelle is less worry in Snowgrave route than in the normal route really shows how she's getting stronger after freezing a lot of enemies. That's fucked up.
this is showing both an increase in strength, but more importantly an increase in confidence, which is a really cool detail like- yeah this is absolutely horrible, but she _is_ still learning positive things from this... even though its morbid
its crazy how noelle loses her visible guilt in fighting when you're in snowgrave
Omg you watched the video too??
@@MeatBunFul Yeah. He did. And he's commenting on how great the detail is. Don't have to be a butt about it-
Yeah, but her wide eyes in her idle might be her guilt
@@Ambipie might be excitement
@@MeatBunFul yeah that's why commenting about it you stoopid
What a super cool thing to put in. It's definitely a wee bit more work than necessary, but that's why it's cool; having Noelle's goofier animations fade away and get more serious is the perfect way to subconsciously tell the player how much more detached and violent Noelle is getting. Big kudos to Toby and the team for stuff like this.
I feel like the work is justified, mainly because for the attacking and defending, if you only had 1 of them it wouldn’t work in the other route. Their personality changes so much because of snowgrave if they had cowardly animations it wouldn’t make sense. Likewise they wouldn’t have super confident and magical animations when they are still confused as to what on earth is happening.
Toby fox is a person who shows that your actions have consequences even if you’re only one of the 7.9 billion entities
@@Gmanrocky I personally like the snowgrave defending more than the regular one and i think it could probably work in both routes.
@@mihael64 personality doesn't match
@@junconglin the animation would have to be different, but i can see an ice wall hasily constructed in panic in a normal route.
What I think is scary is that she is ACTUALLY getting stronger
Not just with her magic
Just generally tougher.
Plus she literally uses a wall of ice to defend herself that's as literal as you can get
losing recruits is also supposed to make everyone stronger, too. But noelle's case is different
@@maskedmanpkclysm5327 basically you choose between friendship power, or your own power
@@RaphielShiraha64
Or in this case, it's Friendship power, your own solo power, or "manipulating someone else into doing your evil deeds" power.
That tracks with how Undertale interpreted levels. Getting stronger means becoming more detached from your emotional pain, and more willing to do violence to others.
She's the only one who can gain true LV
Very minor (probably not even worth a video), but also Berdly gets some changes during the Snowgrave Route: his facial expression in battle is serious instead of smirking; this also includes when he transforms his
halberd into a spear, and his weapon will lack its "eyes", until Noelle cast Snowgrave, which, together with Berdly, will look surprised.
hal"BERD"? GOD. DAMMIT. TOBY.
@@lunafoxfire it was actually Halbird lol
@@Ambipie halbird makes more sense because he wants to be the smart boi
Wait.
The halberd has eyes??
@@ARandomMinecraftVillager yes there's a little yellow eye
I’d like to think that Noelle’s normal attack animation deals like 4 damage
@@Cereally even to Ralsei who used to deal around that damage now deals like 10 lower then kris
@@kenziebalhatchet3918 Puppet Scarf
@@kenziebalhatchet3918 Ralsei did like 70 damage on a well timed hit relative to Noelle dealing around 40 damage on a well timed hit
@@pichujiggs153 I like to call a well timed hit a CRIT Hit.
@@kenziebalhatchet3918 But doesn't she start at lvl 1 while Kris and the rest are at level 2?
I LOVE Noelle's shocked expression when you're about to attack
"w-WHAT? i'm ATTACKING now???
"Wai-wai-WAIT,I'm NOT MENTALLY READY YET!!"
"You want me to do WHAT?!"
@@TimSoarer"Uhh...y'know..."
"...F*cking proceed"
She's pretty much like: "KYAAH! We're fighting Now?!"
Noelle's Snowgrave idle makes it look like as if she's watching us input actions through the panels.
that is.. creepy
Holy hell why didn’t I think of that. I’ve always noticed her eyes, but I always thought she was just sad and lost in thought.
P R O C E E D
"Please...don't make me attack again..."
Does she have a more positive reaction if you spare enemies and end the Snowgrave route? Like looking super relieved or something?
0:12
In her end battle animation, the snow sphere surrounding her depicts castle town in the background. Hmm… 🤔
It's probably supposed to be the snowglobe on the Freeze Ring; maybe it depicts the Castle Town?
No, it depicts….
*LET IT GO!*
Hmmmm... Now I think her getting stronger has some tie to Castle Town
@@SwerveStarExIt also said in the menu, something like "is that a person in there?"
@@Bro-cx2jcpresumably the salesman
Also, throughout the snowgrave route, Noelle’s “boldness” stat slowly rises from -12. I think once it passes 0 is when you get these animations. The more enemies you kill the higher Noelle’s boldness stat gets.
You get these animations after getting the freeze ring. Her boldness stat increases during a normal playthrough. It's the coldness stat that increases as you freeze enemies
Right. Boldness seems to represent how well a character can defy the SOUL's choices. Suzie has one of the highest Boldness stats and she consistently ignores the SOUL's choices. Meanwhile, Noelle starts with one of the lowest. It'd be weird if it started rising in the Weird Route considering it's the route she has the least amount of agency in.
@@Birthday888 That said, after she kills Berdly, she does basically say 'fuck this shit I'm out' and leaves the party, so she does defy the Soul at least once.
@@subprogram32 But she's also connected with the SOUL enough to be able to somehow hear it despite it being a whisper rather than a yell like the others.
@@Birthday888 Nah she actually tried to say "no" to the player picking snowgrave
Poor Noelle
Going from so innocent and confused that she swats at enemies
To a dulled cryomancer brushing off hits like they they're not much
(Guessing getting downed is the same in both?)
I thought it was kyromancer
@@pocketphrog4960 No, It’s with a C, Cryo means Ice or something similar to that.
@@pocketphrog4960 .
You didn't get the pun I guess.@@honey-hunterslimefanno.3257
The snowgrave ones definitely show how much she changes while with Kris on the route, basically Kris (or well, us.) act sorta like a suppressant for the feelings of being weak that Noelle often has, as we make her stronger, she loses some emotion, becoming more powerful in the form of getting more health not just physically affect her but also mentally, and if we were to go over the top and command her to cast Snowgrave onto Berdly, we make her fully break mentally for a moment when it’s being casted, she basically walked away after the battle cause she was mentally exhausted and tired after casting that cause she mentally lost her mind for a moment while Snowgrave was being casted.
I mentally lost my mental mind while trying to read this comment that's full of "mentally"
@@joelhoon1707 there were 4 at the end. too much for you to count?
@@roc-noK 4 in 2 sentences, and it's not much of a generic word like "a" or "the". And yes, I am legally unskilled and I cannot count over -4.
@@joelhoon1707 that’s unfortunate, wasn’t that bad for me
@@roc-noK You are the one with drip after all.
0:20 The way Kris starts dancing while Noelle is scared for her life😂
Jiggle jiggle
Her animations normally: Funny and goofy
Her animations in snow mercy: Unnerving
"snow mercy"
oh my god
Ah yes, the most unnerving route of game history.
"Snow mercy"
Haha very funny
@@thecollabersshow3617 You will understand the pun one day
I will now forever call this route the "Snow Mercy" route because it's the only correct name
We truly did make her stronger.
Stronger and weaker at the same time.
More power in exchange of gradually losing her will in making her own choices
Here's another neat detail. On a Weird Route, Noelle's attacks will never miss. If you intentionally let her bar go all the way to the end, her attack will still land.
the same is true of kris in the spamton neo fight, i wonder when that first kicks in for them? 🤔
I am convinced that Noelle's response to the tragedy (whatever it was) was to be sad and afraid but she has the full capacity for a Chara-like response as shown in this route
@@NiennaFan1 im like 9 months late but i saw in halfbreadchaos's vids that if a character's def is in the negatives, it always takes damage
That only happens with negative defense
no thats if the def is lower then 0 watch halfbreadchaos to know
Both are making Noelle stronger
Both are making Noelle somewhat more "confident"
Both gives her a new experience of life
One makes her filled with overwhelming emotion, one numbs her emotion
One is standing up herself (in the end), one is forced and brainwashed
One is getting closer to know herself better, one is distancing herself to kill better
"Your choices don't matter, the ending will be the same"
@@LostSoul2279 I’d like to think that even if the ending will be the same, your choices will cause your journey towards the ending to be different
@@hieuhuehueBerdly will be sleeping in a hospital either way probably. It’s just whether he sleeps temporarily or permanently.
@@XD-yn6hb Not really. It is heavily implied that post-snowgrave, Berdly's body was shoved into the Closet.
It’s so sad how taking damage barely bothers her in the snowgrave route. Probably because when you give her the thorn ring she constantly takes damage so she’s gotten used to it. It’s kinda horrible
After a certain point in the route, the pain stopped mattering. Once she got the Thorn Ring, pain was just an inevitability.
Well Yes But Also Because She Got Stronger
I hate to ruin it to ya but she doesn't really mind the damage even before she gets thorn ring
that thing is basically a torture device
@@markthegamerofgrima6159 the words Susie said when you try to give it to her
Looking at the bright side, I love how Noelle while attacking in the normal route will move her arm like saying "Shoo shoo!" xD it's very cute ✨
Works like real life , repetition has it's wonders on people
I did something so cruel and it felt so good to see noelle stand up for herself, but at the same time I felt like I've made a grave mistake...
A SNOWgrave mistake per say..?
Well that's the thing, she's not standing up for herself like she does in pacifist, she's being completely manipulated and brainwashed to do your every bidding. You're not empowering her (beyond making her physically and magically stronger), you're breaking her down even more than she already is
pun intended or no
@@qwertyuiop.lkjhgfdsa it’s intended
Yep.... giving her some PTSD
0:25 Ah yes, the deadly arm flailing that deals critical _40_ damage to enemies
She seems a lot more confident in snowgrave but also more troubled and conflicted. I dont see why. She has ice magic. She can just freeze her troubles away. Enemy attacking? Freeze em! Got crippling debt? Freeze it! Feeling guilty because you may have ended many lives all at the request of some violent lunatic claiming to be your friend that you are too meek to stand up against? Just freeze it!
To summarize in one word :
**P R O C E E D**
"They need you to step on a switch to stop a Lightning field to kill them during a puzzle?" Just try to step off during that process!
Freeze your brain! Swim in the ice, get lost in the pain!
Yeah I think you would feel troubled and conflicted too if someone was manipulating you into killing people.
Some one get in your way just shoot them!
I haven’t really seen anyone talk about her “getting attacked” animations. In the normal route, she jumps back which is understandable. But in snowgrave, she flinches the tiniest bit.
As if she’s almost...desensitised to being attacked....or maybe just accepts the pain.
She even said it. After a certain point, the battles were just blurring together. The pain stopped mattering as much. And after she got the Thorn Ring, she was in *constant* pain, so pain was just another inevitability.
Berdlys expressions also change in the snowgrave boss as well. His idle changes to a meaner face, which is very easy to spot. But what i find cool is how his expression during the halberd attack changes too. Usually, he charges the attack with a smirky face, but in snowgrave, its more fierce, like with the idle. A minor change, sure, but the fact it changes just adds onto the detail that was put into this route.
It’s literally one pixel you dork
@@blackironwalterkus3851 so is noelles idle expression, your point?
@@TheLudicrousLuv tf are you talking about, that’s equally uninteresting. Did you really think that was a gotcha or something?
@@blackironwalterkus3851 ???
@@TheLudicrousLuv YOURE confused??
The snowgrave defending animation is really fucking cool
YOOOO the way she moves to get into battle position in snowgrave is so haunting, she moves like a ghost in a cold lonely night, not like the silly and hopelessly crushing girl we know.
These details just make it all better
My favorite is her damage one showing a light flinch as she takes damage, showing how she is feeling stronger and less afraid of pain (or perhaps you could say more numb to it.) Idk it's interesting I like seeing Noelle more confident but just wish it didn't come at the cost of Birdly's life lmao.
to be fair you do also take all emotion and just flush it away
Well on the pacifist/neutral routes she stands up to the queen so thats something
As the route continued, the pain stopped mattering, and once she got the Thorn Ring, she was constantly in pain, so more didn't really change anything.
The attacking difference makes me imagine using a minimal amount of mana to do physical damage
normal: shy and scared
snowgrave: unwavering confidence
her idle animation in snowgrave is her being worried
@@A.R.C.1997 confidence has more than one face
@@rangopistacho6928 confidence is also being... worried?
no no i totally get it now
@@A.R.C.1997 confidence is when you keep going regardless of how you feel
@@rangopistacho6928 no, thats determination. do you know the definition of confidence
It's so eerie to see that noelle in snowgrave is looking at the menu (player's command) instead of the enemy in the normal route. Kind of shows what she fears/has her full attention more in both routes.
I love minor details like this that enforces whats happening.
In the normal route she is goofy and timid.
In the snow grave route she is more serious and is clearly becoming "stronger".
I think the ending the battle and defending one are the worst changes.. in the ending the battle it’s like a snow globe prison, one she has shook multiple times covering everything in snow but no matter how hard she shakes the prison won’t dissipate.
I also think defending is pretty sad because of the way she is completely reliant on her magic as if she and it are separate beings with the magic being dominant and her nothing but a fragile puppet that needs protecting
I see it more as her accepting the true strength of her ice powers and letting it become a more firm part of her, and letting it block hits for her and fight for her with incredible strength instead of if she were to be fearful of it and try to avoid using it, which she does at first.
as for the ending battle it's more of a representation of how she accepts getting power from killing and becoming stronger
@@pote2frouifruite81 I thought the end battle animation was because of the freeze ring
@@envy7272 maybe I don't know, still a way to show that she becomes stronger
@@moronribbons5774 You mean LETTING IT GO, LET IT GO LET IT GO CAN'T- okay ima stop here.
*viciously waves hands*
in UNDERTALE they did say that the more LOVE someone gets they more they distance from themselve, making it easier to kill
Yeah, just like the Genocide route
But noelle didn't earn any, she just "got stronger"
Correction: When you gain LV you distance yourself from your would, making you get dealt more damage.
@@realtbhandrew she does level up actually and gets to LV 3 by the time we fight Berdly
@@witchluisamultifandom1212 Huh. It doesn't say you earned Xp though, so that's kinda weird
I love her arm flail attack animation so much.
Though, I also wish the ice wall anim stayed on aborted snowgrave.
Also I’m pretty sure she won’t fall over if you use act on one of the virus things
This is very relevant to undertale and deltarune's way of explaining lv and exp. our normal trio are characters who arent going to be effected by acting differently for different reasons; Kris is controlled by the player, susie has already hurt a lot of people so her lv and exp are high enough to where it doesnt effect her much, and Ralsei who knows they're facing darkeners and there actions have little significance or repercussions. Noelle, on the other hand, has probably never harmed a fly and doesn't know darkeners have less impactful lives. for al she knows, she just killed a real person, or at least badly hurt them, and that's something she won't ever be able to take back. also, about birdly, she probably thinks she killed him too. i find it unlikely that birdly would be truly killed by snowgrave, but if he is, that is something that will solidify these thoughts and darken her heart. all this, conveyed in subtle animation changes.
Hm, i really hope that this isn’t the last time we get to see Noelle as a party member, it would be quite refreshing to see Noelle’s animations eventually become something more similar to her Snowgrave animations, just more (let’s say) healthier?
So just a bit more confident, and less flail-around-and-do-40-damage?
Bless you for this! I've been looking for someone to compile all the different animations, since people usually only bring up the battle start one and the victory one c:
Really? I've only seen people mention the idle, defend, the spell and the victory
I just realized i never saw noelle's down sprite, like Kris sits down, Susie kneels, ralsei gets transfered to the Shadow realm, but noellle?
@@Cereally oh cool
For sone reason, her ability to act also changes. Even though you’ll probably never use it in Snowgrave, she no longer trips when using act.
I was kind of hoping we'd get to see her Take Care animation, because apparently she no longer falls over?
The more love you acquire the easier it is for you to hurt others and the harder it becomes for others to hurt you.
There’s like a 1-4 pixel difference in the idle animation, he didn’t need to add that detail but he did
It's interesting when Noelle finish her battle in Snowgrave while a mysterious background appears for a moment.
The way she waves her arm in her normal attack animation is so cute
I feel like this animations probably will be used for later chapter's normal route because character arc stuff lol.
Except the idle animation and battle ending animation
Also there's two animations that comprise for Snowgrave. The snow part is one, and her floating up is presumably part of her Ice Trancer class/method of casting.
it's something really interesting to see.
she loses her fear of fighting, and is slowly conditioned into thinking killing things is just normal.
abandons her lackluster stance, being more concentrated and cold when attacking or defending.
no longer using exxagerated poses, she's used to dealing and taking damage, reacting to it casually.
instead of being relieved when leaving battle, she just adds it as one more kill to her list.
the player REALLY gets into her head.
I remember first seeing video of Snowgrave and feeling like something was off, but I couldn't really put my finger on it. Crazy how much effort Toby put in for reveals like this
"Just because your son has fighting potential, doesn't mean he likes to do it."（Piccolo said to Goku）
Can't wait to see what snowgrave would have on the story with Azzy (Asriel)
Just say “Asriel,” don’t say Azzy that’s dumb and gay
@@goldy6772 xD
@@goldy6772 and what if he is gay
@@goldy6772 I will say Azzy a lot more now
@@goldy6772 k
Azzy
Cope, seethe, mald.
She is getting focused
Showing that "she is getting stronger"
Also when takecaring, she doesnt fall
noelle's so strong now she can properly stand on heels...?
Bro this is why noelle is an interesting character to me, its the fact that she knows what’s happening to kris and knows they’re being puppeteered. It all comes to me because of her snowgrave animation when the fight starts. Notice how she looks like she is being pulled into battle and she doesn’t think anything of it because she is getting S T R O N G E R
She's getting stronger...
noelle before snowgrave: *innocent*
noelle in snowgrave: freeze everything. *PROCEED*.
Noelle on Normal: Downright adorable.
Noelle on Snowgrave: Calculative. (Her end Battle Animation has her shroud herself in a Sphere of Cold... Funnily enough, the ability is similar to the Warframe Frost's fourth ability, Snowglobe.)
Honestly, her snowgrave defense animation is pretty cool
Noelle’s Snowgrave battle starting animation hit me like a brick when I realized its significance. Its like someone is pulling a string behind her, dragging her into battle while she’s just swaying listlessly, which pretty much summarizes her situation in that route.
Good catch, I didn't notice that!
She literally having an existential crisis on SnowGrave route
But in same time, she adapt, get used to battle.
iwish more games did this, i want an rpg where you can mold the charicters to how you want, and see visible changes in their actions
man, some time if we get noelle as a party member again, I hope we get to see her gain some confidence (without forcing her to do horrible shit)
“I’ve made Noelle into a proper fighter!”
“You fucked up a perfectly good cinnamon roll character is what you did. Look at them. They’ve got a demolished moral compass.”
Can we all agree, that Noelle's normal route attack is cute 😁
Her Take Care X animation also changes on Snowgrave; she doesn't fall over anymore.
*Noelle cast SNOWGRAVE
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Here you go friend
I like how her animations change based on the route you're playing as if her very personality changed. Which it did.
She went from being afraid of everything and being hesitant or afraid to attack to outright doing it like it's no big deal and not hesitating when given the order to attack. The only time she hesitated to attack was when Kris ordered her to attack Berdly with Snowgrave.
A reminder to treat your dear with love and care.
"Strength comes to those who grab for it..." - Blackmore, The Suffering: Ties That Bind
Hmm... while she's calmer in all her other animations, it looks like she's actually more fearful in her idle Snowgrave stance than she is in her idle normal stance. Her eyes shrink down which is usually animation shorthand for fear (the whole 'irises contract when frightened' thing).
It's the little details like this that make all the difference
Lv too is an acronym it stands for “Level of Violence”
The more you hurt others. The less it’ll hurt you.
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Equipping the Thorn Ring drops Noelle’s health to 55. The Roman numeral for 55 is LV
@@Melonposting thorn ring is also probably pretty much a ring that stabs your finger and yet she wears it with no hesitation
The small details make great difference
We are literally getting to see the effects of the undertale genocide route from the third person
0:07 do you see that? it's like she's become used to being dragged around.
Lore of Animation changes in Deltarune Snowgrave route momentum 100
defending and winning
it’s the impossible to miss the difference between normal and snowgrave
Why is no one talking about the way she totally changes from starting a battle in complete fear to starting with that cold breeze animation...
The way she just moves into battle but you can't see her expression when an encounter starts is just, brutal.
I like to think that Noelle when attacking is launching some sort of icicle at the enemy
ngl her starting battle animation in snowgrave is pretty slick
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The snowgrave one looks like she is being dragged into the battle when it starts.
To be honest.. She looks cool in Snowgrave route
You can tell she's trying hide how much this actually hurts her just from her facial expression.
Poor,Poor Girl.☹
Also we gotta have more people commenting
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And remember: She only has true regret if she takes out Berdly. If she fails in any way, she has the kill count, the power, and potentially even Snowgrave, but is still the chipper girl next door.
The fact that Noelle is less worry in Snowgrave route than in the normal route really shows how she's getting stronger after freezing a lot of enemies. That's fucked up.
i wish noelle always had her snowgrave defend animation
Thank you
in her snowgrave "end battle" sprite, the thing surrounding her looks a bit like a snowglobe.
i have no idea if anyone else noticed
i thought she was dabbing in the normal attack animation for a sec LOL
I didn't even notice her idle pose changes
Her snowgrave routw eyes makes her look psycotic O.o
Finally I actually get to see Noelle's normal attack animation
She looks worried
this is showing both an increase in strength, but more importantly an increase in confidence, which is a really cool detail
like- yeah this is absolutely horrible, but she _is_ still learning positive things from this... even though its morbid