YouTube's copyright system isn't broken. The world's is.

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  • Опубликовано: 21 ноя 2024

Комментарии • 18 тыс.

  • @TomScottGo
    @TomScottGo  4 года назад +29917

    Yep, 42 minutes of video. This was a big project. Plus: I've got an all-new five-part original series called Money over on Nebula, which you can watch as a bundle with CuriosityStream! curiositystream.com/tomscott

    • @kwirro
      @kwirro 4 года назад +102

      Thank you!

    • @BillyC
      @BillyC 4 года назад +187

      Long form videos are awesome! Thank you so much Tom!

    • @stormtrooper8470
      @stormtrooper8470 4 года назад +77

      1 week ago

    • @CyberedCake
      @CyberedCake 4 года назад +59

      How did you post this a week ago but the video was released 3 minutes ago?

    • @dandanthedandan7558
      @dandanthedandan7558 4 года назад +29

      The hero we don't deserve but needed

  • @astrrra
    @astrrra 4 года назад +6981

    Actually, don't ask photographers how much their gear costs. Unless you want to see a crying photographer.

    • @hariseldon02
      @hariseldon02 4 года назад +195

      Sounds like a good motif

    • @Dman6779
      @Dman6779 4 года назад +65

      i would like to see that

    • @hariseldon02
      @hariseldon02 4 года назад +190

      @@papasscooperiaworker3649 Something to take a photo of

    • @Bobis32
      @Bobis32 4 года назад +71

      some of the landscape photographers i know have over 35k in kit

    • @raffimolero64
      @raffimolero64 4 года назад +14

      @@hariseldon02 but then you'd be crying too

  • @simonr7097
    @simonr7097 4 года назад +6394

    I was thinking that "death of the artist" would be a reasonable limit for copyright duration, but then I realized that it would create a new motive for murder.

    • @IHateNumbersOnNames
      @IHateNumbersOnNames 4 года назад +314

      Ooooo boy

    • @Mr_O
      @Mr_O 4 года назад +517

      not to mention artists who die young

    • @annakaro9081
      @annakaro9081 4 года назад +544

      Haha, yes, I am a writer and I also thought that "I won't need copyright after death" but now I'm scared to say it out loud. But I wouldn't want copyright to expire while I'm alive because I'm afraid of seeing what some people might do to my precious characters.

    • @yellowcactustvz4929
      @yellowcactustvz4929 4 года назад +469

      @@annakaro9081 We know you write furry porn

    • @Obviary
      @Obviary 4 года назад +256

      * stabs walt disney *
      Mickey mouse for everyone!

  • @edisonyi1188
    @edisonyi1188 4 года назад +36694

    Love how Tom always looks simultaneously 24 and 42.

    • @dibbidydoo4318
      @dibbidydoo4318 4 года назад +2231

      but average would be 33 which is close to his age.

    • @ADeeSHUPA
      @ADeeSHUPA 4 года назад +258

      @@dibbidydoo4318 hM

    • @null3007
      @null3007 4 года назад +1085

      He's a palindrome human.

    • @hatedumb
      @hatedumb 4 года назад +337

      @shrowdy ydworhs Receding Hairline
      That's basically it

    • @FHL-Devils
      @FHL-Devils 4 года назад +279

      @@hatedumb - and greying sides - that's an even stronger hint of age.

  • @emma_loomis
    @emma_loomis Год назад +405

    30:50 I love that he put the text above where the captions are so those that require/enjoy captions don't have to turn them off to read the text, turn them back on, and rewind. It is one of the most common things I see where people put text right under the captions, which are unmoveable on mobile devices. His videos are always so well thought out and lots of people appreciate your work.

    • @dracula0
      @dracula0 Год назад +12

      Yea I appreciated that too

    • @Aaaaaaarrrpirate
      @Aaaaaaarrrpirate 10 месяцев назад +2

      Kind of late but you can put the video in full screen which places the captions outside of the video, or rotate for phones

    • @Spacccee
      @Spacccee 6 месяцев назад +8

      @@AaaaaaarrrpirateI’m confused by this… In full screen the video takes up, well, the full screen, so there’s no way for the captions to be placed outside the video. And same for both computer and phones.

    • @zyaicob
      @zyaicob 3 месяца назад +1

      That happens so often!

  • @wormwoodbecomedelphinus4131
    @wormwoodbecomedelphinus4131 3 года назад +15799

    "We live in a society" but its 42 minutes long and well made.

    • @inyoface5456
      @inyoface5456 3 года назад +100

      Underrated

    • @lethauntic
      @lethauntic 3 года назад +310

      We do, in fact, live in what is called a society.

    • @PrettyBitchLuna
      @PrettyBitchLuna 3 года назад +29

      Facts

    • @inyoface5456
      @inyoface5456 3 года назад +19

      @@TheFalseShepphard true

    • @legohexman2858
      @legohexman2858 3 года назад +71

      @@TheFalseShepphard I'm cool because I don't do popular things

  • @kavertia6261
    @kavertia6261 4 года назад +1980

    Can we just talk about the fact that LegalEagle just appeared out of nowhere in this video acting like a vampire being fought off with “no copyright infringement intended” as the cross?
    I didn’t know how much I needed this.

    • @sadianaheen7270
      @sadianaheen7270 4 года назад +14

      that made my day. that bit was funny.

    • @bensmith6518
      @bensmith6518 4 года назад +40

      Haha yes I watched the whole video too. I don't think your comment is fair use.

    • @kavertia6261
      @kavertia6261 4 года назад +22

      Ben Smith _sigh_ I’ll go get my lawyers...

    • @Sheridan2LT
      @Sheridan2LT 4 года назад +1

      LMAO WHYYYYY :D That's so perfect haha

    • @satyris410
      @satyris410 4 года назад +3

      Indochino...

  • @ARSZLB
    @ARSZLB 4 года назад +3066

    even as a fan of Tom’s content, i’m amazed at his ability to keep me interested in subjects like this for over 40 minutes straight. absolutely brilliant.

    • @petrabanjarnahor229
      @petrabanjarnahor229 4 года назад +7

      Except i stop at 16 minutes for a lunch.

    • @youtubesuresuckscock
      @youtubesuresuckscock 4 года назад +2

      Didn't last 5. This video was WAY longer than it needed to be.

    • @cedarsapling
      @cedarsapling 4 года назад +41

      @@youtubesuresuckscock I thoroughly enjoyed the entire thing. I would feel sad about missing so much of this video if it was only 5 minutes long.

    • @ADNAN0MNM
      @ADNAN0MNM 4 года назад +13

      Exactly. Around 22 minutes mark I realized it was not a regular 5-10 minute video and slightly surprised I was still interested.

    • @aleigor450
      @aleigor450 4 года назад +11

      A video that takes Copyright seriously and discuss it in details? I hope it's 40+ mins long. It's one of the most complicated matter in our time and at the mercy of an old legal system.

  • @elisha.schiff
    @elisha.schiff 2 года назад +2133

    Love how the entirety of this video is Tom making absolutely *sure* this video won't get copyright strike

    • @shayaanm7122
      @shayaanm7122 7 месяцев назад +3

      does this really have no comments

    • @MajorNutsack
      @MajorNutsack 7 месяцев назад +2

      ​@@shayaanm7122Its just the two of us, buddy

    • @ruler255
      @ruler255 7 месяцев назад +1

      ⁠@@MajorNutsackno, it's just the three of us

    • @NHikel319
      @NHikel319 7 месяцев назад

      ​@@ruler255I'm here too

    • @Lemony123
      @Lemony123 6 месяцев назад

      ​@@NHikel319 well, its now the fifth I guess

  • @Kriptini
    @Kriptini 4 года назад +1909

    You're an incredible speaker. Great eye contact with the camera, no stuttering whatsoever, animated speech with logical points of emphasis and no jump cuts! You must have rehearsed these quite a lot. Thank you for an extremely professional presentation!

    • @xdesolateone8564
      @xdesolateone8564 3 года назад +12

      Everything other than eye contact I can care about eye contact is weird

    • @oreoman5993
      @oreoman5993 3 года назад +65

      @@not.a.channel I think he's just complimenting him

    • @macblastoff7700
      @macblastoff7700 3 года назад +10

      @@xdesolateone8564 , only at the urinal.

    • @4zap7
      @4zap7 3 года назад +9

      @@xdesolateone8564 Eye contact isn’t weird objectively , it’s used to convey attentiveness and communication. It is only weird because of the way eye contact raises our heartbeats and makes us more alert , makes the awkward eye contact moments feel exponentially more awkward.

    • @raymond7873
      @raymond7873 3 года назад +1

      diss pi-oots

  • @darnwrong794
    @darnwrong794 4 года назад +1323

    Jay: aaaAAAAaaaaAAAAaaaaaAAAAAAAAA
    Glad to see my favorite youtuber got some screentime.

  • @jackiemorey6911
    @jackiemorey6911 3 года назад +4466

    "We need to dramatically shorten copyrights"
    *Disney didn't like that*

    • @SlapstickGenius23
      @SlapstickGenius23 3 года назад +29

      Well yes, but it takes a lot of time, as I’m not a copyright abolitionist either.

    • @TheBluePhoenix008
      @TheBluePhoenix008 3 года назад +15

      We know this is never happening

    • @combinetheelite
      @combinetheelite 3 года назад +148

      iTs NoT CaLlEd CoRuPtIoN iTs CaLlEd LoBbYiNg
      -Disney

    • @Rauruatreides
      @Rauruatreides 3 года назад +29

      After all, if Disney didn't lobby for extended copyright, then lots of its stuff would be in public domain.

    • @Noobshire
      @Noobshire 3 года назад +20

      I certainly agree that the music itself should come under something more akin to patent law. You get X years to make your cash from your product after which it's all fair use, recordings notwithstanding.

  • @samanthak9346
    @samanthak9346 2 года назад +1473

    a fun way to explore how messed up copyright is is to attempt to liscence a picture of a newspaper that doesn't exist anymore. The author sold it to an orginization that no longer exists, that was bought by a different company, whose image management system is different from their text copy management, and the only way you can find the image of the original newspaper is in an archive which has its own licensing agreements and the original author is dead but not for the required time for your country to move it under copyright.
    Courage to anyone whose job requires it!

    • @supreme_leader_of_the_internet
      @supreme_leader_of_the_internet 2 года назад +163

      Just do it and find out who owns it by the lawsuit

    • @Roomsaver
      @Roomsaver Год назад +86

      @@supreme_leader_of_the_internetExpensive but probably easier than tracking the copyright holder down. Cunningham’s Law perhaps?

    • @lXlDarKSuoLlXl
      @lXlDarKSuoLlXl Год назад +52

      ​@@Roomsaver it's not expensive since you'll most likely get a cease and desist, not a lawsuit, so, it kinda is faster hahaha

    • @kirbwarriork3371
      @kirbwarriork3371 Год назад +45

      @@supreme_leader_of_the_internet Reminds me of "Easier to ask for forgiveness than permission".

    • @anon-fq3ud
      @anon-fq3ud 7 месяцев назад +8

      I tried to find an old newspaper article mentioned in a book to use as a source on an article I was writing about the SNP in Scotland. I started at 9PM and gave up at 5AM, the layers of licencing murdered me.

  • @jorgeaura2890
    @jorgeaura2890 3 года назад +3399

    I just love how the legal system is set up in such a way that is cheaper to admit you are guilty than defending yourself in court. You are supposed to have a fair trial but that's impossible when you are facing a multibillion company that can hire as many expensive lawyers as they want. The justice system isn't just at all.

    • @alimohsin496
      @alimohsin496 3 года назад +40

      It is what it is :/

    • @nullbeyondo
      @nullbeyondo 3 года назад +18

      Why do you `love` that? Disgusting.
      Edit: It's ironic how the normies who never got my sarcastic response telling me if I ever heard of sarcasm~

    • @sydnearuppert5305
      @sydnearuppert5305 3 года назад +157

      They were being sarcastic

    • @frameturtle
      @frameturtle 3 года назад +86

      @@nullbeyondo heard of sarcasm?

    • @rfichokeofdestiny
      @rfichokeofdestiny 3 года назад +105

      That’s because it has been thoroughly and completely distorted over the past 150 years or so by government “regulators” on behalf of well-connected interests.

  • @voidmayonnaise
    @voidmayonnaise 4 года назад +16832

    Disney lobbied copyright law into absurdity.
    70 years after the creator’s death is bloody absurd.

    • @chongjunxiang3002
      @chongjunxiang3002 4 года назад +2054

      70 years is enough time for Disney to create real life film to further extend the already fair use books.

    • @AugustusBohn0
      @AugustusBohn0 4 года назад +1196

      speaking of that horrible corporation, get ready for them to make things worse again in 2024.

    • @generictimestamperstupendi9021
      @generictimestamperstupendi9021 4 года назад +422

      @@AugustusBohn0 what are they doing in 2024

    • @Tessa_Gr
      @Tessa_Gr 4 года назад +1839

      What really pisses me off is that most Disney films aren't their original work. Many of their films are about fairy tales and similar stuff so that they don't have actually write new and original stories. Especially as someone who grew up with the tales of the Brothers Grimm (not written by the Brothers themselves, they just wrote down fairy tales) it really angers me how shitty and morally corrupt Disney is.

    • @Robbedem
      @Robbedem 4 года назад +728

      I don't even understand what the creators life has to do with it.
      It should just been x years after public release. (20 years should be plenty)*
      *Tom Scott seems to go for 50 years. Maybe 20 years is still short, but IMHO 40 years should be the max.

  • @adamgill
    @adamgill 4 года назад +1863

    Look at him - showing off being outside.....

    • @affalaffaa
      @affalaffaa 4 года назад +14

      La Di Da

    • @taaviparn9175
      @taaviparn9175 4 года назад +14

      @@affalaffaa schlob on me knob.

    • @danpreston564
      @danpreston564 4 года назад +5

      In Milton Keynes, no less.

    • @OrenKaplan83
      @OrenKaplan83 4 года назад +48

      a) Britain only closed down this past week.
      b) It was probably shot weeks ago and only finalized editing now.

    • @alamrasyidi4097
      @alamrasyidi4097 4 года назад +9

      Probably prerecorded before the entire mess

  • @dave_yarders
    @dave_yarders 2 года назад +825

    You forgot a very interesting fact about copyright expiry! The Peter Pan clause. All copyright in the UK lasts for the author's life + 70 years, apart from one specific work: Peter Pan. The author gave the rights to Great Ormond Street Hospital and the law was written to make sure this copyright lasts forever.

    • @TheGreenTaco999
      @TheGreenTaco999 Год назад +22

      lmao

    • @wilh3lmmusic
      @wilh3lmmusic Год назад +49

      Only for royalties though

    • @itheuserfirst3186
      @itheuserfirst3186 Год назад +12

      And I thought their libel laws were absurd. Geez.

    • @itheuserfirst3186
      @itheuserfirst3186 Год назад +60

      That has to be the most extreme act of virtue signaling on record.

    • @nialmontana
      @nialmontana Год назад +89

      I suppose the idea of having a charity clause where royalties earned get sent to a charity but leaving it sort of partially public so that people could reference and use it's material but a reproduction by a new company would have to specifically get permission and pay the royalties.

  • @nottsoserious
    @nottsoserious 4 года назад +1406

    Love how Tom has to add a criticism to all his examples to dodge copyright

    • @SteveFrenchWoodNStuff
      @SteveFrenchWoodNStuff 4 года назад +118

      I think it's more to drive the point home, to make the message of the video more clear.

    • @jodagondrago8293
      @jodagondrago8293 4 года назад +31

      *Still sets a copyright strike*

    • @JSSMVCJR2.1
      @JSSMVCJR2.1 10 месяцев назад +1

      @@SteveFrenchWoodNStuff It's Both!

  • @iquipthedip
    @iquipthedip 3 года назад +2898

    RIP TomReacts, you were ahead of your time.

    • @shadetraveleroftheunknown4949
      @shadetraveleroftheunknown4949 3 года назад +7

      What?

    • @adamkerman475
      @adamkerman475 3 года назад +73

      @@shadetraveleroftheunknown4949 bruh

    • @luginess0
      @luginess0 3 года назад +62

      True legend, swiped away by Tom Scott.

    • @wastery9113
      @wastery9113 3 года назад +16

      @@luginess0 an example of how big channels are asses like tom scott

    • @AydenRose04
      @AydenRose04 3 года назад +15

      This scared me for a sec ngl, but then I realized what u meant

  • @jamestreveil4866
    @jamestreveil4866 4 года назад +5886

    I think the biggest injustice is that you can't defend yourself without having buckets of money to spend on lawyers.

    • @giffkeplen2951
      @giffkeplen2951 4 года назад +388

      That's the problem with RUclips's copywrite laws, the impossibility of contesting it. You get to send a request to the claimant and if that fails it's court or you just accept the loss. If someone uploads a 40 minute video and it has 8 seconds of fair use content, that content can be claimed and every cent of revenue goes to the claimant.

    • @TheEndernal
      @TheEndernal 4 года назад +149

      Why capitalism sucks

    • @giffkeplen2951
      @giffkeplen2951 4 года назад +406

      @@TheEndernal Capitalism doesn't suck, unfettered capitalism sucks. Well regulated capitalism is the only functional economic system out there.

    • @TheEndernal
      @TheEndernal 4 года назад +59

      @@giffkeplen2951 true

    • @rqb6731
      @rqb6731 4 года назад +10

      was gna comment about that being a problem with america but giffkeplen said it perfectly, we need more government assistance

  • @baddrivingsouthwales4789
    @baddrivingsouthwales4789 2 года назад +308

    There are companies out there that just seemingly try their luck with claiming copyright on entire or parts of music videos by independent creators. A friend of mine had a claim filed against one of her videos for some of the footage…yet every second of footage was filmed by her; and it was just POV footage at a beach. Took her ages to get the claim settled.

  • @zozodj2r
    @zozodj2r 4 года назад +3531

    Convincing Legal Eagle to be a vampire is a decent flex

    • @yolo-sy6zl
      @yolo-sy6zl 4 года назад +30

      true

    • @gearheadlydia
      @gearheadlydia 4 года назад +59

      I'm kind of curious who the voice behind the camera was during that scene.

    • @baconlord9062
      @baconlord9062 4 года назад +16

      Leagle

    • @t3hd0n
      @t3hd0n 4 года назад +13

      i immediately came to the comments to see what was said about this scene

    • @nicelizreu1
      @nicelizreu1 4 года назад +5

      Woah, I missed that. Anyone have a time stamp?

  • @quetzal8100
    @quetzal8100 4 года назад +1451

    The fact that you got an actual lawyer to perform as a vampire for a 10-second clip cracks me up to this day

    • @simp-slayer
      @simp-slayer 4 года назад +120

      He's a RUclipsr too, channel name is LegalEagle.

    • @EikoandMog
      @EikoandMog 4 года назад +64

      For bonus points, he's a copyright lawyer!

    • @priyanlevesque
      @priyanlevesque 4 года назад +2

      666 likes. Please don't ruin it anyone.

    • @drkrik4985
      @drkrik4985 4 года назад

      @@priyanlevesque It's 888 now

  • @imnonene
    @imnonene 4 года назад +854

    >using quasi-lawyer for the legal cameo
    >using actual lawyer for the vampire cameo
    Tom has his priority right

    • @Magtranya
      @Magtranya 4 года назад +27

      Tadtathep Thepboriruck Isn’t Leonard French an actual copyright attorney? (Rhetorical)
      Jay Foreman is a comedian, but one of them is a lawyer licensed to practice for sure

    • @Bootleg_Jones
      @Bootleg_Jones 4 года назад +58

      Leonard French isn't just a copyright attorney, he's our *favorite* copyright attorney.

    • @Spiderboydk
      @Spiderboydk 4 года назад +17

      Leonard French is a practicing attorney besides being a youtuber.

    • @baylinkdashyt
      @baylinkdashyt 4 года назад +6

      I totally missed that it was Leonard, though I did spot the Eagle.

  • @athos401
    @athos401 Год назад +1395

    Seeing Jay Foreman casually appearing as a lawyer made my day

  • @Koolstr
    @Koolstr 4 года назад +1704

    One of the most intelligent, honest, insightful, useful, perfectly analytical, and descriptive takes on copyright law and infringement, with tons of fun & amusing jokes & references and clever, creative content delivery approaches that kept it entertaining and engaging from start to finish. You continue to surprise me, solidifying yourself as one of RUclips's greatest content creators. Thank you for putting in all that effort for this masterful work.

    • @jojokob5182
      @jojokob5182 4 года назад +24

      Thing is, what he's saying is something that every creator should be clearly informed of before being able to publish his work.

    • @yor9783
      @yor9783 4 года назад +7

      Not really, it's full of straw men BS, nobody defends reaction channels when talking about how broken the system is. The problem everyone has with it is how the clement has to prove nothing about owning anything and can do it as much as they want, not only can it be abused, it is abused. This BBC wannabe jumps over the problem in a small sentence and paints the critics as mad because they can't stream a film with themselves laughing in the background.

    • @Macintosh007
      @Macintosh007 4 года назад +34

      @@yor9783 What you just did is a strawman...

    • @Koolstr
      @Koolstr 4 года назад +4

      @@jojokob5182 Precisely. Lots of the content of this video should be part of some kind of mandatory 'how-to' document for content creators, so that they could avoid these pitfalls in the future.

    • @kuunikal
      @kuunikal 4 года назад +14

      @@yor9783 Is your comment ironic on purpose?

  • @alexhauptmann298
    @alexhauptmann298 4 года назад +1560

    An actual copyright dispute I had to send to RUclips once:
    "The Brandenburg Variation is a public domain work. This particular version I am streaming (as can be seen in the video) was rendered by myself from a MIDI file going into a vocal synthesizer, rendering the lines 'pee is stored in the balls'."
    I don't exactly think Sony has released anything involving that particular libretto.

    • @lastfirst5863
      @lastfirst5863 4 года назад +74

      Damn them. I want that song.

    • @damnbro_idc
      @damnbro_idc 4 года назад +157

      Sony doesn't want the truth of pee stored in balls to come out.

    • @nuddle7726
      @nuddle7726 4 года назад +29

      We must hear that song.

    • @ChaosAT
      @ChaosAT 4 года назад

      Du Cuxel

    • @ModelLights
      @ModelLights 4 года назад +54

      Realize the title of this video is incorrect and misleading 'RUclips's Copyright System Isn't Broken. The World's Is.' BOTH are broken, there is no 'either / or' choice. That there are all kinds of problems in the real world copyright law and that it's been extended by corrupt special interests and legislators doesn't negate that what RUclips does is obviously poor and often incorrect.

  • @Christian-vq3lr
    @Christian-vq3lr 4 года назад +621

    I love that Tom stopped mid video to rant about gifs and emojis.

    • @Oba936
      @Oba936 4 года назад

      +

    • @doublex85
      @doublex85 4 года назад +1

      The shaky cam really sells it.

  • @ianorourke9709
    @ianorourke9709 2 года назад +1631

    Can we just take a moment to appreciate the incredible collab between legal eagle and tom scott?

    • @Dreckmal01
      @Dreckmal01 Год назад +83

      There are a handful of great youtubers making an appearance in this video.

    • @thepenguinmafia
      @thepenguinmafia Год назад +11

      That was my fave.

    • @murpledeer
      @murpledeer Год назад +72

      “This man is an actual lawyer I have no clue how I convinced him to film this” was incredible

    • @ilmarilah1195
      @ilmarilah1195 Год назад +26

      The Collab confirms that legal eagle, Tom Scott and tierzoo are in the same cinematic universe
      Edit: Tim Scott did a collab with MrWhoseTheBoss. And chased the jet lag team around London. That confirms that jet lag also belongs

    • @freekingfreaking246
      @freekingfreaking246 Год назад +16

      And Jay Foreman??

  • @_yerf
    @_yerf 4 года назад +2988

    Jay Foreman just can't exist without screaming once in a while

  • @1998tkhri
    @1998tkhri 4 года назад +970

    Imagine just how many contracts Tom needed for this video.

    • @no1DdC
      @no1DdC 4 года назад +127

      Tom's lawyers needed lawyers to sort this one out.

    • @ailaG
      @ailaG 4 года назад +14

      Yes, a RUclipsr with less followers would probably be in trouble. (Or they'd ask RUclips for help and hope they say yes)

    • @ten.seconds
      @ten.seconds 4 года назад +9

      I think the contracts might be copyrighted..

    • @Frungi
      @Frungi 4 года назад +2

      @@ten.seconds Which is why we’ll never see them

    • @GiatrosDys
      @GiatrosDys 4 года назад +3

      :thinking: Can contracts be a work of art or be modified to become a work of art?

  • @realhawaii5o
    @realhawaii5o 4 года назад +2036

    When Legal Eagle got scared away like a vampire... That cracked me up.

    • @steveaustin2686
      @steveaustin2686 4 года назад +52

      IKR. I had to stop and rewind I was laughing so hard. Especially about the little note at the bottom.

    • @kikilo9647
      @kikilo9647 4 года назад +5

      @@steveaustin2686 I couldnt see the letters so i kept thinking which video was that???

    • @flarinflint
      @flarinflint 4 года назад +31

      The third party "legal expert" is Jay Foreman btw (You can find his channel on yt)

    • @LordBhorak
      @LordBhorak 4 года назад +18

      And the other lawyer is Leonard French (a real deal copyright lawyer).

    • @regan3873
      @regan3873 4 года назад +4

      For some reason my time thing is backwards but if anyone is curious (like I was) it’s @11:50

  • @NopeNaw
    @NopeNaw 2 года назад +420

    The music industry is completely absurd with how much of a mess it is to keep track of what license is applicable when and where. It's kind of disgusting, in all honesty.

    • @itheuserfirst3186
      @itheuserfirst3186 Год назад

      The music industry has always been the the most scumbag riddled, low life attracting, business in media.

    • @scmbgoogle7790
      @scmbgoogle7790 6 месяцев назад +3

      can't they just say "you can use it, just don't use it for bad""

    • @molybd3num823
      @molybd3num823 3 месяца назад

      @@scmbgoogle7790 define bad

  • @iuriepripa3171
    @iuriepripa3171 4 года назад +499

    That literal switch from "fact" to "opinion" was smooth.

    • @Phroggster
      @Phroggster 4 года назад +22

      I heard some facts after that switch was thrown; I want my money back

    • @lokeshchandak3660
      @lokeshchandak3660 4 года назад +1

      @@Phroggster i'lll pay in like

  • @whistletoe
    @whistletoe 4 года назад +8304

    if photographers weren't more generous they could singlehandedly destroy the meme industry

    • @randon19yearold
      @randon19yearold 4 года назад +744

      If by industry you mean random people's instagram and facebook accounts

    • @n30m84
      @n30m84 4 года назад +532

      Annoying 15 year old your name fits you really well :)

    • @randon19yearold
      @randon19yearold 4 года назад +220

      @@n30m84 Thank you :')

    • @walidfakhfakh3660
      @walidfakhfakh3660 4 года назад +7

      @@n30m84 you quanaze q AYAUAUNEN quaaaannze depressed year old

    • @gregtv1467
      @gregtv1467 4 года назад +65

      @whistletoe No they couldn't and that's why they haven't.

  • @themandownstairs4765
    @themandownstairs4765 4 года назад +115

    Hi, I'm a mashup artist (if you can even call it art). I've been on the receiving end of copyright claims more times than I can be bothered to count and I always hated on RUclips for it. Clicking on this video I was prepared to write an essay comment on every reason you were wrong and RUclips sucked. ...You won me over. The video was truly enlightening and really opened my eyes on how RUclips holds me behind a shield from copyright-infringement lawsuits. Thank you.

  • @AnnoyingSoundsMadeRelaxing
    @AnnoyingSoundsMadeRelaxing Год назад +391

    The thing that infuriates me is that many copyright cases end with the confiscation of computers. That’s not an eye for an eye; that’s an eye for a dirty look.

    • @dororo2597
      @dororo2597 Год назад +14

      Cases example? Give me pal

    • @lottery248
      @lottery248 7 месяцев назад +3

      ​@@tristan5299that's even worse than RUclips's!

  • @emilye.9059
    @emilye.9059 4 года назад +1144

    I feel like if there were a school for becoming a RUclipsr, this video would be apart of the syllabus.

    • @stephencook2971
      @stephencook2971 4 года назад +50

      I disagree, I think it could instead be a part of the syllabus.

    • @theantimatter
      @theantimatter 4 года назад +21

      Courses have syllabi. Schools have curricula.

    • @williamwontiam3166
      @williamwontiam3166 4 года назад +5

      I mean, we should put together a class for it at some point.

    • @elnico5623
      @elnico5623 4 года назад +4

      Quick question, would they ask for permission?

    • @speedrhythmics1839
      @speedrhythmics1839 3 года назад

      769 likes lmao

  • @ElGordoFreeman
    @ElGordoFreeman 3 года назад +973

    The Content ID worst case was the movie "Pixels" when tried to set a claim over the original Pixels video which inspired the entire movie

    • @applesyrupgaming
      @applesyrupgaming 3 года назад +56

      bruh

    • @edenengland1883
      @edenengland1883 3 года назад +195

      there was also the time family guy used some nes gameplay footage and accidentally got the person claimed, then the family guy creators had to reach out to youtube to fix it (keep in mind the footage was multiple years older than the episode)

    • @cobrce6093
      @cobrce6093 3 года назад +7

      @@youraveragebedwarssweat5922 IIRC that speedrunner is called Kosmic, but not sure if that story was about 4:54 record or the 18 something warpless run

    • @septanos
      @septanos 3 года назад +8

      I am thinking in another thing
      because pixels movie was inspired by that video, can the video maker copy right the movie?

    • @monhi64
      @monhi64 3 года назад +5

      @@septanos nah it’s doubtful that’s definitely transformative. Inspiration is allowed, just not direct rip off. Like how when an artist mentions all his inspirations even if their music is similar the inspiration can’t go back and sue them.

  • @iancorzine
    @iancorzine 4 года назад +144

    As a social media lawyer in America, I have to say ... REALLY GOOD JOB, Tom. I love how you explained global copyright law intricacies in simple easy-to-understand terms.

  • @1Kekz
    @1Kekz Год назад +33

    These are the best closed captions I have ever seen. Great work by your subtitler! I'm a subtitler too and this inspires me a lot.

  • @CrabQueen
    @CrabQueen 4 года назад +160

    You've done a better job explaining why content ID is important than RUclips has.

    • @bhull242
      @bhull242 4 года назад +17

      Honestly, that’s one of the biggest problems RUclips has: communication.

  • @Daleterrence
    @Daleterrence 4 года назад +201

    You've come a long way from dropping part of a drum kit off a cliff Tom, excellent job.

    • @jordanleighton6893
      @jordanleighton6893 4 года назад

      Daleterrence when did that happen?

    • @OnisanT
      @OnisanT 4 года назад +15

      Jordan Leighton search for „two drums and a cymbal fall off a cliff“.

    • @AlisterBulman
      @AlisterBulman 4 года назад +7

      ba dum, tish

  • @ericzhan3454
    @ericzhan3454 4 года назад +728

    "one of the largest advertising firms"
    *ad plays*
    Very smooth, Tom.

  • @Gabo_2825
    @Gabo_2825 Год назад +230

    7:12 not Tom foreshadowing the worst apology video that would be released 3 years later 💀

    • @GreatGizmo74
      @GreatGizmo74 Год назад +5

      😂

    • @DeshGp
      @DeshGp Год назад +2

      Omg😂😂😂😂

    • @sidchaini
      @sidchaini Год назад +6

      Could you elaborate which video you're talking about?

    • @qwertyuiop.lkjhgfdsa
      @qwertyuiop.lkjhgfdsa 7 месяцев назад +19

      person who has only seen coleen ballinger's apology seeing someone playing ukelele: 'getting a lot of coleen ballinger vibes from this'

    • @Post_Stall_Maneuver
      @Post_Stall_Maneuver 4 месяца назад

      ​@@sidchainitoxic gossip tra-

  • @MillywiggZ
    @MillywiggZ 4 года назад +14481

    No red t-shirt.
    This looks serious.

    • @zoltano_cortez
      @zoltano_cortez 4 года назад +122

      I laughed more than I should have at this..

    • @user-hk8yp7cw1v
      @user-hk8yp7cw1v 4 года назад +38

      Oh boi this got serious real quick

    • @kaischrank
      @kaischrank 4 года назад +165

      13:32 + 22:16 Is this not red?

    • @Owen-
      @Owen- 4 года назад +72

      It comes in later dont worry

    • @runguardian6868
      @runguardian6868 4 года назад +47

      There is from 10:00 to 28:00

  • @rebmcr
    @rebmcr 3 года назад +7518

    I like how Tom's idea of annoying is just Tom but wearing a Hawaiian shirt.

    • @raziasultana5222
      @raziasultana5222 3 года назад +72

      lmfao

    • @HashimAziz1
      @HashimAziz1 3 года назад +581

      I like to think it's a whole different alter ego called Tim

    • @lilylopnco
      @lilylopnco 3 года назад +397

      @@HashimAziz1 The dollar store Tom Scott, Tim Scot

    • @Eric.-.
      @Eric.-. 3 года назад +96

      Tim Scitt

    • @KCGamingBuddies
      @KCGamingBuddies 3 года назад +73

      @@lilylopnco tim scotch

  • @RegitYouTuber
    @RegitYouTuber 4 года назад +650

    Looks like my old IT teacher’s advice that “crop the top off an image and it’s not copyrighted anymore” might not quite be right...

    • @KatyaLeonie
      @KatyaLeonie 4 года назад +18

      Lmao not copyright if you alter the image

    • @yeetushmm6073
      @yeetushmm6073 4 года назад +4

      ok, the Regit who plays battle cats is here?

    • @damionlee7658
      @damionlee7658 4 года назад +81

      If you take a book with a colour illustration, and you:
      1. Use tracing paper to trace the image outlines.
      2. Transfer it to drawing paper.
      3. Scan it digitally.
      4. Use an art program to colour it in.
      That is still classed as copyright infringement 😉

    • @vikramvalame9990
      @vikramvalame9990 4 года назад

      Regit the Cat Battler

    • @arandomguywitharandomname4187
      @arandomguywitharandomname4187 4 года назад +21

      Just crop the whole image

  • @plat6164
    @plat6164 Год назад +207

    The next step after dealing with copyright is dealing the reality that some works only ever gain serious traction after the copyright owner can no longer benefit from royalties. Like some now famous artists never being recognized during their lifetime.

    • @deedeeen
      @deedeeen Год назад +12

      That partly arose due to the lengthy copyright durations.

    • @VanessaMagick
      @VanessaMagick Год назад +19

      And that sucks, sure, but is that a problem that needs solving?

    • @deedeeen
      @deedeeen Год назад +6

      Well, _somewhat._

    • @Mr_Brains
      @Mr_Brains Год назад +2

      Because of copyright slaugthering them like sheep

    • @jakubrogacz6829
      @jakubrogacz6829 6 месяцев назад

      And that's the issue if it became PD it would kind of incentivise author to give out free copies that could possibly interest someone. In my country anime became popular only because piracy. Otherwise most people wouldn't even know what it is.

  • @guest_14.1.19
    @guest_14.1.19 4 года назад +2436

    So basically, "No Copyright Infringement Intended" is the lawyer version of "An apple a day keeps the doctor away" right?

    • @oxybrightdark8765
      @oxybrightdark8765 4 года назад +30

      Kirisaki Mortis yanno, some people are allergic to apples.

    • @sanmoon3543
      @sanmoon3543 4 года назад +102

      Oxy Bright Dark and others are allergic to copyright

    • @izxodii
      @izxodii 4 года назад +22

      @@sanmoon3543 you are brilliant.

    • @Ventorath
      @Ventorath 4 года назад +26

      I'd argue that while the phrase means nothing legally, it shows a willingness to comply if asked/told to take something down, which might be enough to keep some company from going ham against you (or RUclips). Provided they're not making money on it.

    • @deebur8777
      @deebur8777 4 года назад

      Yes!!! Exactly

  • @redulis_oni8391
    @redulis_oni8391 3 года назад +6363

    The Creators: It's RUclips's fault
    RUclips: It's the Creators fault
    Tom: It's the world's fault

    • @webmasale
      @webmasale 3 года назад +389

      It's the greedy corporations fault

    • @bakacdaz
      @bakacdaz 3 года назад +168

      (Tom) Scott (not Pilgrim) Vs The World

    • @Miku-uw2sl
      @Miku-uw2sl 3 года назад +26

      Tom’s right

    • @kris_0520
      @kris_0520 3 года назад +24

      @@bakacdaz Friggin’ brilliant!

    • @RobertPayne556
      @RobertPayne556 3 года назад +8

      Found all the schills. TRIALS WILL BEGIN IN DUE PROCESS.

  • @wongsaraf
    @wongsaraf 4 года назад +6175

    Tom : We need to shorten how long copyright lasts.
    Disney : So you have chosen death.

    • @ordinaryshiba
      @ordinaryshiba 4 года назад +10

      I actually thought of this for some days

    • @HH-je3sh
      @HH-je3sh 4 года назад +4

      Nice comment

    • @Stealthbird97
      @Stealthbird97 4 года назад +64

      Did you get a loisence for that quote?

    • @changsiah2
      @changsiah2 4 года назад +5

      Disney hater

    • @awesomeguy2009
      @awesomeguy2009 4 года назад +125

      @@changsiah2 they're an evil company, dude

  • @austinevplab7167
    @austinevplab7167 2 года назад +173

    Happened to me. Bought music from a "Royalty Free Music" site which included a copy of the music license. Got a copyright strike and when I challenged it all they said was "They disagreed. Copyright is still in force."

    • @purpledevilr7463
      @purpledevilr7463 5 месяцев назад +8

      On a technicality. ‘Royalty free’ means they’re not charging you for its use.
      It’s another thing with permission to actually use.

  • @Figureight
    @Figureight 3 года назад +3625

    The bit at 34:40 just makes me think about the current state of Mechanical Keyboards. The Cherry key switch patent expired and now the community is alight with superior reproductions.

    • @Bonsai2680
      @Bonsai2680 3 года назад +20

      Never expected to see you here!

    • @Asiis
      @Asiis 3 года назад +135

      I used to turn my nose at the cherry key alternatives when they started, but now I own one of those and I consider it better. I thought it was my lack my knowledge, but I guess it WAS better !

    • @ali._.hallani
      @ali._.hallani 3 года назад +2

      Ayeeee the homie

    • @JonatasAdoM
      @JonatasAdoM 3 года назад +26

      Are you telling me I can buy a cheap mechanical keyboard?

    • @CN-yb5gn
      @CN-yb5gn 3 года назад +12

      @@NoobOfShame redragon uses kailh or gateron if I remember correctly, both of which were before cherry copyright expired

  • @dalehorton7748
    @dalehorton7748 4 года назад +430

    Absolutely brilliant. This has been a sore point online for a long time, and the way this video frames the problem, communicates the right points, the right way, legally and effectively, to bring everyone up to a common level of understanding is just amazing.
    This should be required viewing for every youtuber, streamer, copyright lawyer, and law maker.

    • @k.binaku
      @k.binaku 4 года назад +1

      Dale Horton well said. This should be an introduction video on new channels and more 😅

  • @MoonAirN
    @MoonAirN 4 года назад +425

    Never thought I'd live to see the day when Tom says "Wassup worl, is yo boi"

  • @lowmax4431
    @lowmax4431 2 года назад +133

    I'm just impressed by how long he can monologue without making a mistake

    • @ash_tray_6
      @ash_tray_6 Год назад +19

      I think you missed the credits then haha

  • @GuuMonster
    @GuuMonster 4 года назад +3701

    Tom: Copyright shouldn't last longer than 50 years...
    Disney: I sense a disturbance in the force...

    • @legendarynoodle2438
      @legendarynoodle2438 4 года назад +304

      *a disturbance in money

    • @Sydra.
      @Sydra. 4 года назад +28

      5 years would be even better

    • @dougbrowning82
      @dougbrowning82 4 года назад +157

      Originally, it was 14 years, with an option for a 14 year extension, just like patients. A lot has changed over the years.

    • @UltimatePowa
      @UltimatePowa 4 года назад +48

      14 years should be the most it should ever be.

    • @tomasr.2945
      @tomasr.2945 4 года назад +84

      It's ironic that you're quoting Star Wars: the franchise that Disney bought to be their cash cow and will most likely hold on to for years to come.

  • @eoghan.5003
    @eoghan.5003 4 года назад +3660

    "Tom Scott: the feature length film" is finally here
    wow that's a lot of likes when all I did was say the predictable comment under any long video

    • @dolphinboi-playmonsterranc9668
      @dolphinboi-playmonsterranc9668 4 года назад +59

      Nah, this is TV documentary sized. Feature length is an hour and a half or longer.

    • @pavarottiaardvark3431
      @pavarottiaardvark3431 4 года назад +91

      @@dolphinboi-playmonsterranc9668 The Academy of Motion Picture Arts and Sciences define "Feature Length" as 40 minutes or over. As just over 42 minutes, this video qualifies.

    • @danielchequer5842
      @danielchequer5842 4 года назад +33

      Tom Scott: The Movie

    • @6105boe
      @6105boe 4 года назад +48

      Tom Scott 2: Legal Boogaloo
      Tom Scott 3: Tom Scott Is Not Free
      Tom Scott 4: Scott Goes To War
      I can go on.

    • @eoghan.5003
      @eoghan.5003 4 года назад +15

      @@pavarottiaardvark3431 Thank you, gallant aardvark, for rescuing my joke from the veritable gutter of technical inaccuracy.

  • @mecfluri
    @mecfluri 4 года назад +579

    I watched half an hour of this thinking it's been 10 minutes. Imagine having Tom as your professor...

    • @bigbunstudios7494
      @bigbunstudios7494 4 года назад +3

      69 likes

    • @KJohansson
      @KJohansson 4 года назад +6

      Then we would have learnt some thing!

    • @Pittigpiertje
      @Pittigpiertje 4 года назад +3

      Imagine your professor putting 10% of the time into his lecture

    •  4 года назад +3

      "Welcome to todays lecture... thanks for listening, goodbye."

    • @DrBrainTickler
      @DrBrainTickler 4 года назад

      I would get thrown out of his class for showing him that he's a simple-minded twat with myopic vision.

  • @shangerdanger
    @shangerdanger Год назад +1143

    what i think is so interesting is that an artist of a song will own the video if there's a song and a video together... why don't I get to still own the video just because their song is on it?

    • @itheuserfirst3186
      @itheuserfirst3186 Год назад +82

      Lobbyists and lawyers. The end.

    • @grants7390
      @grants7390 Год назад +158

      if you mean an original video that you made with someone else's music in it you cold just delete the video, then re upload without the music. if the video doesn't work without their music, then maybe you should pay them to use their music.

    • @connermarchetti7522
      @connermarchetti7522 Год назад +28

      Damn that's crazy all I have to do is pay to use their music? let me just whip out my wallet full of ca--oh wait

    • @grants7390
      @grants7390 Год назад +111

      @@connermarchetti7522 then don't use their music. It's their property if you you can't afford to pay to use their property, then don't use it. they worked hard to create that work of art, or paid tonne of money for the rights to the work of art.

    • @connermarchetti7522
      @connermarchetti7522 Год назад +23

      @@grants7390 if I'm not making any money and giving credit to the artists I fail to see why it's wrong for me to use their music. I could care less about the monetization I just wanna make fun tribute videos for shows/movies I love.

  • @williambryant4139
    @williambryant4139 4 года назад +2732

    "How old are you?"
    "Somewhere between 23 and 52."

  • @hollingharris659
    @hollingharris659 4 года назад +1292

    the problem at the root of all of this is that it costs money to defend yourself in court

    • @howardbaxter2514
      @howardbaxter2514 4 года назад +128

      A lot of money

    • @lettuceman483
      @lettuceman483 4 года назад +117

      imagine hating people trying to get into the mainstream so much in order to be considered innocent you need to be rich

    • @moisedieucaryoteescholecte8439
      @moisedieucaryoteescholecte8439 4 года назад +13

      @@Halorocker101 Well... Mostly all evil

    • @jackasshomey
      @jackasshomey 4 года назад +68

      @@Halorocker101 money is just a system of trade, it's an inanimate object, the users of the system did such things with it...
      Conclusion: Human's are evil.

    • @stairworse
      @stairworse 4 года назад +7

      @@jackasshomey Someone gets it.

  • @andrewbloom7694
    @andrewbloom7694 2 года назад +5823

    I still don't understand how we ever got to "past death" for copyrights. I mean the songwriters kids had no more role in creating the song than I or anyone else did.

    • @0106johnny
      @0106johnny 2 года назад +333

      @@ninjashot37 Nope, copyright going past death was a thing before Disney even existed. It has just been extended since then.

    • @hamsterfromabove8905
      @hamsterfromabove8905 2 года назад +676

      My proposition would be 50 years or 18 years after death which ever comes sooner. While we can agree that it seems ridiculous that a person's kid gets to live their entire lives benefiting from creative work they had no part in, what about a literal child?
      Imagine a case where some artist dies and leaves behind a 5 year old child who has no other family. That artist's work shouldn't immediately go into the public domain, because that 5 year old child could fall into the type of poverty that takes an entire life time to dig yourself out of despite the fact their parent would have had the money to care for them if they'd lived.
      That's where my 50 years or 18 years past death comes in. My suggestion guarantees that any child of a copyright holder would at least keep their money coming in until their adult hood where they can rise or fall with the rest of us.

    • @andrewbloom7694
      @andrewbloom7694 2 года назад +41

      Honestly the burden for that should be on the parents to plan ahead smartly

    • @tjoloi
      @tjoloi 2 года назад +230

      @@hamsterfromabove8905 I believe it's should be an inheritable fixed time after creation.
      Let's say you go with a copyright of 50 years after publishing, if the artist dies within that timeframe, it's family inherits the rights to said work, until 50 years after the publication.

    • @Caryll_byrgenwerth-scholar
      @Caryll_byrgenwerth-scholar 2 года назад +49

      ever heard of inheritance?

  • @JouMxyzptlk
    @JouMxyzptlk 2 года назад +115

    My problem is with the choice I get: I can tell it is a false claim, and the OTHER party has to agree "yes, it is wrong". That is the part which made me put up less and less videos on youtube, 'cause the other party can still say "it is mine" even though it clearly isn't. This disadvantage is my problem with youtube.

    • @justalonelypoteto
      @justalonelypoteto Год назад +6

      the good thing is that if they want to insist, they have to actually file a lawsuit. The bad part is you have to provide your details so you can be sued if you wish to dispute it

    • @ThomasTheThermonuclearBomb
      @ThomasTheThermonuclearBomb 10 месяцев назад +5

      ​@@justalonelypotetoThe bad part is when people actually steall content and you can't do anything about it unless you file a lawsuit

  • @tdolan500
    @tdolan500 4 года назад +854

    I can’t believe a 42 minute video on RUclips was completely engaging and got my full undivided attention.

    • @cactustit
      @cactustit 4 года назад +24

      All his video is like this

    • @shamicentertainment1262
      @shamicentertainment1262 4 года назад +27

      especially a 42 minute about copyright. I'd have never watched something like that usually

    • @MusicIan423
      @MusicIan423 4 года назад +2

      You may find other video essays intriguing, check out Philosophy Tube and Lindsay Ellis.

    • @LoudSodaCaleb
      @LoudSodaCaleb 4 года назад +3

      You haven't been on the site for a while.

    • @Alex-lk7qy
      @Alex-lk7qy 4 года назад

      That's Tom

  • @SirYodaJedi
    @SirYodaJedi 4 года назад +471

    "you have to be a subscription service, or one of the largest advertising-"
    *ad plays*

    • @travcollier
      @travcollier 4 года назад +13

      And, of course, sponsored by CuriosityStream+Nebula. So both ;)

  • @ev-0163
    @ev-0163 4 года назад +4477

    The guy who wrote the dictionary: imma bout to end everyones career

    • @tohfawalker159
      @tohfawalker159 4 года назад +108

      phthalo blue you can’t copyright a single word and a phrase is difficult to claim copyright for. I think the smallest amount of text you can easily copyright is a paragraph or more.

    • @Gogglesofkrome
      @Gogglesofkrome 4 года назад +62

      @@tohfawalker159 I suppose a good example of this would be a poem, but even now not a lot of people really even respect that, especially considering how most people who write poems simply don't have the monetary or legal power to make such a maneuver

    • @big924
      @big924 4 года назад +23

      I don’t think a single string of words should be able to be copyrighted, like a single line from a poem, roses are red shouldn’t be able to be copyrighted and if you yourself are making a poem, and use “the raven was riding on the wind” etc. shouldn’t be copyrighted

    • @big924
      @big924 4 года назад +2

      If you are replying to me, it’s not supposed to be real poetry, it’s a stereotypical exaggeration not supposed to mean anything but to illustrate what part of the poem it’s talking about.if it’s not replying to me then cool

    • @kindoe6399
      @kindoe6399 4 года назад +39

      It's joke

  • @terribleexampleofacat
    @terribleexampleofacat 2 года назад +863

    How you manage to keep someone with ADHD (me and probably a lot of other people) hooked on videos talking about the in theory most boring things on earth is beyond me. Yet you do, hats off because that is truly amazing.

    • @calihhan4706
      @calihhan4706 2 года назад +16

      This is how we learn 🙃

    • @roserose6418
      @roserose6418 2 года назад +61

      Tom's such a good presenter. A consistent energy and pacing, with no
      overly-complex words. Doing that while still being engaging is a underrated skill

    • @JoshuaTootell
      @JoshuaTootell 2 года назад +3

      I fell asleep. 🤣
      Okay, I do that all the time and just rewind when I wake up and see what I missed

    • @ThisWillCharacter
      @ThisWillCharacter 2 года назад +13

      It’s hyperfocusing, getting rlly in depth about weird random things is an ADHD trait

    • @ducminhduong9873
      @ducminhduong9873 Год назад +8

      Because the topics are not actually boring, and a lot of work went into them to ensure that translates onscreen.

  • @billyruben6540
    @billyruben6540 4 года назад +287

    Tom Scott is a treasure. 40 minutes felt like 15. Great job to everyone involved.

    • @MrPianoMan
      @MrPianoMan 4 года назад +2

      @Michelle Ross ouch I can tell!

    • @MrPianoMan
      @MrPianoMan 4 года назад +2

      @Michelle Ross ouch I can tell!

    • @PersianMapper
      @PersianMapper 4 года назад +1

      @@MrPianoMan Why's everyone writing two comments at a time?

    • @PersianMapper
      @PersianMapper 4 года назад

      @@MrPianoMan Why's everyone writing two comments at a time?

    • @MrPianoMan
      @MrPianoMan 4 года назад

      @@PersianMapper I think its because we have poor internet! 🤔😩

  • @bruderdasisteinschwerermangel
    @bruderdasisteinschwerermangel 4 года назад +438

    I agree wholeheartedly.
    Please, this for scientific research too. It so annoying to have paywalls on conference papers on conferences that happened 20+ years ago...
    Although I'd want scientific papers to be public anyway.

    • @spartan456
      @spartan456 4 года назад +55

      If the papers in question are from currently-existing scientists and researchers, most of the time you can get them for free if you just e-mail one of the people who were responsible for writing it. All of that information can be found in the abstract. More often than not they are thrilled that someone is interested in their research so they are happy to let others see it for free.

    • @UNowen255
      @UNowen255 4 года назад +11

      ok nikola tesla

    • @andrew_cunningham
      @andrew_cunningham 4 года назад +5

      Imposter.

    • @oxybrightdark8765
      @oxybrightdark8765 4 года назад

      I reccomend asking the authors if you can have a free copy. Usually, they say yes.

    • @diablo.the.cheater
      @diablo.the.cheater 4 года назад

      @@RyanOManchester easy we give the scientist a machine that prints legal money and let them self serve

  • @Undeaddog42
    @Undeaddog42 4 года назад +684

    Was not prepared for the Legal Eagle crossover but I definitely appreciated it

    • @NathanDortman
      @NathanDortman 4 года назад +44

      Apparently Legal Eagle is a Copyright Vampire :O

    • @jonahnicholas7373
      @jonahnicholas7373 4 года назад +13

      Did I see a lawful masses cameo too?

    • @sabinrawr
      @sabinrawr 4 года назад +1

      Yup! This made my day.

    • @samliveshere88
      @samliveshere88 4 года назад +3

      I was way more excited for the Leonard French (my favourite copyright attorney)cross over

    • @thebuzzah
      @thebuzzah 4 года назад +1

      Need more Jay Foreman

  • @Drakshl
    @Drakshl Год назад +89

    I think the biggest issue with the copyright system on RUclips is that the holder of copyright from 15 seconds of a 2 hour video can just make money from your entire video. Let them ringfence the section of the video with mid rolls they can profit from, and not just take everything. thats just me though

    • @squeakybunny2776
      @squeakybunny2776 11 месяцев назад +7

      What if I rip off a complete music video or movie even and then out 10 hours of random footage after it?

    • @ThomasTheThermonuclearBomb
      @ThomasTheThermonuclearBomb 10 месяцев назад +9

      ​@@squeakybunny2776Then people probably won't watch the random footage, and the ads there wouldn't make any money

  • @Watrmeln
    @Watrmeln 3 года назад +2386

    Jay foreman screaming is way funnier than it’s supposed to

  • @fatesrequiem
    @fatesrequiem 3 года назад +719

    The most random Legal Eagle cameo ever and I love it.

    • @Robert_McGarry_Poems
      @Robert_McGarry_Poems 3 года назад +36

      This is not legal advice. This is legaltainment...

    • @Ephoros
      @Ephoros 3 года назад +22

      Jay Foreman appears: oh i know where this is going.
      Legal Eagle skit: whaaaaaaat the hell is going on?!

  • @LIETUVIS10STUDIO1
    @LIETUVIS10STUDIO1 4 года назад +1133

    Leonard French, Legal Eagle, Jay Foreman and Tom Scott?
    Now this is a crossover.

    • @eljestLiv
      @eljestLiv 4 года назад +38

      don't forget Oliver Thorn (Philosophy Tube) is also listed in the credits

    • @Elusivehawk
      @Elusivehawk 4 года назад +28

      RUclips Cinematic Universe in progress?

    • @ra1823
      @ra1823 4 года назад +5

      And mumbo

    • @XSpamDragonX
      @XSpamDragonX 4 года назад +4

      Legal Eagle is an incredibly biased Lawyer who takes advantage of his reputation to make baseless claims and describe them as facts.

    • @thecrap17yearsago35
      @thecrap17yearsago35 4 года назад +11

      TheSpoonKing lawyers are supposed to be baised

  • @CollinKeegan
    @CollinKeegan Год назад +11

    Another important thing I think about the difference between patents and copyright is that patents are described and archived as part of that process, so there isn't the "orphaned works" issue for patent. I honestly think the archival aspect of copyright is something that would be nice to be specifically addressed in law, like adding archival and backup without further distribution until copyright expiration to what is considered a fair use, or having a patent-like system where media must be submitted to a central government database whenever copyright is legally enforced (so if a cease and desist was sent or a lawsuit was brought, to be enforceable, the media would have to be submitted). And then there's the issue of DRM... anyways, that's all just to say that I think it's really important to not lose even obscure bits of culture and art.

  • @krishacz
    @krishacz 4 года назад +674

    Fun fact to make you feel old: If copyright lasted only 20 years like patents, Peter Jackson's Fellowship Of The Ring would be entering public domain next year

    • @phlaxyr
      @phlaxyr 4 года назад +91

      @Dan Stuart bruh

    • @PaleGhost69
      @PaleGhost69 4 года назад +29

      The owner of the patent can renew it when it expires. Companies can't die so they can hold patents in stasis indefinitely. Car manufacturers bought other people's patents to hide electric cars and higher mpg and lower maintenance gas cars because it would cut into their return profits.

    • @noahmay7708
      @noahmay7708 4 года назад +7

      @Dan Stuart You rarely see people disliking Fellowship of the Ring without mentioning the book and holding it up to the sky like their holy bible.

    • @brandy1011
      @brandy1011 4 года назад +28

      @@PaleGhost69 Renewing a patent is only possible for the 20 years mentioned (counting from the filing date, not the date of introduction to the market). The only exception I am aware of are products that require a licensing procedure, such as pharmaceuticals and pesticides. For them, the maximum duration is 20 years + the duration of the licensing process, but no more than 30 years.
      Of course, you can improve your invention and patent the improvement in a new patent, which would again last for a maximum of 20 years. But the "base" version of your invention would be out of patent protection earlier than the improvement.

    • @SupermotoZach
      @SupermotoZach 4 года назад +1

      STOPPPPPPP

  • @MrProtjes
    @MrProtjes 4 года назад +3733

    "I'm really surprised nobody has sued giphy for all their money yet."
    giphy: *sweats profusely*

    • @jpobi9880
      @jpobi9880 4 года назад +44

      Hahahha exactly my thoughts.

    • @jpobi9880
      @jpobi9880 4 года назад +190

      *giphy sues Tom for being mentioned*

    • @SangoProductions213
      @SangoProductions213 4 года назад +139

      Ah hah! But in order to sue us, you have to pronounce our name!

    • @Voreoptera
      @Voreoptera 4 года назад +2

      I think some organisations should not exist.

    • @cymes82
      @cymes82 4 года назад +21

      My name gif.

  • @OutOfTheBoxThinker
    @OutOfTheBoxThinker 4 года назад +2161

    I love how you consistently distinguish between "legally" & "morally". That alone is enough to upvote this vid IMO!

    • @davidbanan.
      @davidbanan. 4 года назад +94

      U dont "upvote" youtube videos

    • @raffimolero64
      @raffimolero64 4 года назад +100

      r/ihavereddit
      oh wait

    • @TwistedJustice
      @TwistedJustice 4 года назад +9

      I'd like that comment but it's at 69

    • @kaw628
      @kaw628 4 года назад +6

      @@TwistedJustice Somebody else ruined it, you can now. lmao

    • @user-nz4dr1sy5g
      @user-nz4dr1sy5g 4 года назад +5

      Upvote? You mean like? Right?

  • @haukuror8596
    @haukuror8596 2 года назад +13

    Still come back to this gem every once in a while. One of Toms greatest works

  • @SuperShesh2
    @SuperShesh2 4 года назад +3181

    “This is an actual lawyer and I have no idea how I convinced him to do this”
    Lmfao

    • @michaeljohnson7929
      @michaeljohnson7929 4 года назад +322

      His videos are actually really good. Legal Eagle.

    • @stux-omega
      @stux-omega 4 года назад +138

      His channel is really good! LegalEagle
      They both use Curiosity Stream too :p

    • @faust7756
      @faust7756 4 года назад +57

      I saw him and was like wow its legal eagle

    • @georgelloydgonzalez
      @georgelloydgonzalez 4 года назад +15

      They both work for CuriosityStream

    • @farenhite4329
      @farenhite4329 4 года назад +17

      Michael Johnson sue tom wintle for infringing on your comment!

  • @jcthefluteman
    @jcthefluteman 4 года назад +621

    Never thought I’d see Tom Scott talking about Mumbo Jumbo
    Wow what a strange time we live in

    • @ErrorNameNotFound123
      @ErrorNameNotFound123 4 года назад +21

      or H3H3 for that matter.

    • @Andrew90046zero
      @Andrew90046zero 4 года назад +3

      Well, these are tough times. We gotta stick close to those who share the same troubles.

    • @thegeneralissimo470
      @thegeneralissimo470 4 года назад +1

      I know! Much less Sargon and H3H3

    • @voit956
      @voit956 4 года назад +1

      As I never thought I'd see Hermitcraft remixer's comment under Tom Scott's video. This really is a strange time..
      Love your work btw!

    • @jcthefluteman
      @jcthefluteman 4 года назад +2

      Eyyy! Cheers mate! :D

  • @ognotapussyslayer5917
    @ognotapussyslayer5917 4 года назад +153

    I love how Jay Foreman just showed up randomly. This is the best

  • @spectroglobe8433
    @spectroglobe8433 2 года назад +12

    Every time I’ve watched this I’ve thought to myself “That looks like Evan Edinger’s bedroom” and I finally checked and indeed it is

  • @Gamesaucer
    @Gamesaucer 4 года назад +549

    I just want to say, Jay Foreman as "screaming attorney" was a genius idea.

    • @JouvaMoufette
      @JouvaMoufette 4 года назад +29

      Jay "The Screaming Attorney" Foreman vs "The Vampiric Lawyer" LegalEagle in a steel cage match.

    • @sadianaheen7270
      @sadianaheen7270 4 года назад +2

      @@JouvaMoufette i would see that.

  • @p0cket646
    @p0cket646 3 года назад +7616

    Imagine being a little kid online who doesn't know what copyright is, and accidentally losing your family 35k from uploading baby shark

    • @hurricanemeridian8712
      @hurricanemeridian8712 3 года назад +283

      Literally this

    • @Ciara_Foxx
      @Ciara_Foxx 3 года назад +696

      Back in my day kids lost their family's money in online poker.

    • @gdxnsk
      @gdxnsk 3 года назад +298

      -Any game with lootboxes ever

    • @bruhmoment1835
      @bruhmoment1835 3 года назад +36

      .. deserved

    • @bhagwatipawar4476
      @bhagwatipawar4476 3 года назад +91

      @@gdxnsk Geez, those kids were actively investing online though it was a short time investment 🤣

  • @StrokeMahEgo
    @StrokeMahEgo 4 года назад +1569

    Tom: Copyright needs to be shorter
    Disney, who is effectively singlehandedly responsible for how long it is: Maybe it needs to be longer still, and we'll pay as many judges as we have to.

    • @eksortso
      @eksortso 4 года назад +162

      They don't pay judges. They pay lawyers. And members of Congress who mostly don't have a clue.

    • @Kian139
      @Kian139 4 года назад +6

      How about shortening it to zero?

    • @cy5434
      @cy5434 4 года назад +83

      @@Kian139 Umm, no?

    • @Kian139
      @Kian139 4 года назад +1

      @@cy5434, do it like Prince did with Planet Earth in UK.

    • @StrokeMahEgo
      @StrokeMahEgo 4 года назад +52

      @@Kian139 unfair to content creators

  • @endleontiozae7061
    @endleontiozae7061 Год назад +24

    I think that getting your work to enter public domain on a large scale should be an honorable thing.

  • @hunterr.w.8297
    @hunterr.w.8297 3 года назад +775

    Someone was copystriked because the system picked up their blender as a song and to be honest, I think you should be worried that you music sounds like a blender according to the copyright system.

    • @simonixen0762
      @simonixen0762 3 года назад +7

      Source please

    • @MrPolicekarim
      @MrPolicekarim 3 года назад +13

      @@simonixen0762 I heard that too ! I think it was a cooking video. I heard it on THE MIGHTY JINGLES channel!

    • @andremitreuter5397
      @andremitreuter5397 3 года назад +20

      Its true but that happened on twitch and not youtube

    • @professorcranium4792
      @professorcranium4792 3 года назад +5

      i've been kidnapped 46 times by Amerikkkan police for exposing govt corruption....and so any time I hear a song on the car radio that has a police siren in it....i FREAK OUT!!
      Soooo cruel to do to people driving!

    • @caminstol2473
      @caminstol2473 3 года назад +15

      @@professorcranium4792 wtf. this is obviously a 9 year old. if not, sarcasm wasn't hinted

  • @Redbunny5000
    @Redbunny5000 4 года назад +435

    That moment when you realize, the reason they always play classical music and Jazz in Star Trek TNG is because in the future, copyright gets so ridiculous that they can't touch an instrument without fear of Ferengi lawyers.

    • @kylesoler4139
      @kylesoler4139 4 года назад +42

      A modern adaptation where they only play royalty free ukulele tracks.

    • @big924
      @big924 4 года назад +33

      Oh god stuck in space with Kevin Macleod forever please no

    • @l.e.n.1002
      @l.e.n.1002 4 года назад

      @@big924 XD

    • @justinokraski3796
      @justinokraski3796 4 года назад +11

      @@big924 I like Kevin but hate those royalty free songs they use in commercials with bells or glockenspiels

    • @EvenTheDogAgrees
      @EvenTheDogAgrees 4 года назад

      Now just waiting for that moment when you realise that "get's" is not a verb. ;)

  • @KMO325
    @KMO325 4 года назад +143

    I've watched a few videos like this over the years, but this has one of the most stripped-down, uncomplicated arguments for fixing the copyright problem in the United States.

    • @theajayyy
      @theajayyy 4 года назад +7

      In all countries. Sadly due to USMCA (new NAFTA), Canada and Mexico are extending to the American rules :( retroactively. Before it was death + 50 years, which is still way too long

  • @tritoner1221
    @tritoner1221 2 года назад +10

    this video is amazing! the way you play out scenarios to showcase how absurd copyright laws are is genius

  • @Taurmin
    @Taurmin 3 года назад +378

    Its a testament to how iconic Toms red t-shirt is that for a brief moment i forgot that the guy in the corner was also him.

    • @deepaparakkal4241
      @deepaparakkal4241 3 года назад +4

      Same. The Red T-shirt, just like in Tommyinnit's case, and sometimes, the occasional jacket.

  • @cry0lite800
    @cry0lite800 4 года назад +743

    42 minutes of Tom Scott? Oh well, I'm stuck at home anyway.

    • @Connie_TinuityError
      @Connie_TinuityError 4 года назад +6

      Well... who isn't?

    • @hamidtahir6634
      @hamidtahir6634 4 года назад +3

      International students in China who chose to stay despite the crisis.
      Who's laughing now, mom?
      Of course, that doesn't prevent me from watching 42 minutes of Tom Scott...

    • @bennystar29
      @bennystar29 4 года назад

      Ok.
      I'm a composer and did a lot of work in my 20's that still makes money to this day. My royalties are how artists like me can survive and continue. So why should it be taken away from me later in life when I might need it most? It might still be an income I rely on.
      Copyright until death makes sense to me.

    • @KK-xz4rk
      @KK-xz4rk 4 года назад

      We all are. And our boy is filling the void in our soul.

  • @zachos-un6py
    @zachos-un6py 4 года назад +329

    "there is an enormous distance between what the law says and what the world is doing", this is a seriously good quote, might be completely obvious to some but it's so very true, definitely one of my top 10 or top 15 favorite quotes I think... Hmm actually are quotes also copyrighted?? Can I quote people freely?

    • @plzletmebefrank
      @plzletmebefrank 4 года назад +4

      Yes, quotes can have copyright. Generally though, it's trademarked which.... I think is basically the same thing.

    • @plzletmebefrank
      @plzletmebefrank 4 года назад +5

      So basically, they need to go and trademark it. Instead of having inherent copyright.

    • @NanashiHuy
      @NanashiHuy 4 года назад +1

      You might want to get that quote licensed

    • @notanonymous3976
      @notanonymous3976 4 года назад

      ShloKing its not the same thing... a company logo and slogan is trademarked rather than copyrighted. so i can make a video or photo with a company logo or quote a slogan without issue but i cant use it as part of my business' identity

    • @plzletmebefrank
      @plzletmebefrank 4 года назад

      @@notanonymous3976 ... But then why does Bruce Buffer get paid everytime someone wants to use, "Let's get ready to rumble!" in a commercial way?
      There's plenty of other examples I can think of where something is trademarked and it has nothing to do with company identity.

  • @ElliotShayle
    @ElliotShayle Год назад +21

    This is such a great video! I don't disagree with anything in it. I just think the biggest tragedy is that 3 years on, there's barely any talk or political action about actually reforming the system. We're still just patching it up as we go along...

  • @mariolis
    @mariolis 2 года назад +667

    RUclips's copyright system is better than actual copyright law
    That gives you an idea about how broken copyright law really is

  • @Patryc
    @Patryc 3 года назад +285

    didn’t expect to watch this whole thing. You really have the knack for engaging presentation skills

    • @qwertyTRiG
      @qwertyTRiG 3 года назад +2

      There's never a wasted moment in a Tom Scott video.

  • @piratecheese13
    @piratecheese13 4 года назад +455

    tom doing a pratty react to himself is a format I can get behind

    • @tonyhussey3610
      @tonyhussey3610 4 года назад +7

      piratecheese13 Not for me..I found it irritating

    • @JINORU_
      @JINORU_ 4 года назад +32

      @@tonyhussey3610 Just like real pratty reactioners

    • @StayMadNobodycares
      @StayMadNobodycares 4 года назад +2

      Just wait until Colin Furze gifts him a rubber hand.