The Warrior Tea Transporter is often overlooked by military analysts yet it plays an important role in the morale of the Englishman at Arms. It can brew the tea on the move with its carbon water filter using the same tech as Bosch instant household hot water heaters with a manual option to rout the water through stainless tubing coiled around the upper exhaust pipe. The Tea Kettle is 416 weapons grade stainless with the same servos that balance the 40 mm cannon except it keeps the tealeaves from being sloshed and frothing the tea over rough terrain. Another benefit of the KSU (Kettle Stabilizer Unit) is keeping the tea leaves from crumbling and making the tea too bitter in conjunction with the triple filtration system. The triple filtration is through a folded T shirt of pure cotton, a cylinder of tube socks and the dust prefilter from the soldier gas mask canister. This way it can be maintained when the vehicle is at extended range from the supply chain. The Cream, Sugar and crumpet cases are still top secret but there's nothing like them in the world regarding quality, survivability, and upgradeability.
Amazing isn't it, at the start of WW2 the main anti tank gun on tanks was 37mm and they loaded it one shell at a time. Now APC's have 40mm guns that fire on automatic...
Yes, and many of the tanks and other armoured vehicles during the Second World War would have been no match for modern-day infantry fighting vehicles. IFV's mounting either a 30 or 40mm gun firing programmable proximity-burst rounds would have been absolute murder even on dug-in infantry. The ground portion of the Second World War would have ended fairly quickly if somehow modern-day IFV's could have been deployed through some weird kind of time travel or time warp.
@@revolverswitch Don't laugh. I read of one idea to repurpose C-130s or strategic bombers as missile buses with F-22s and F-35s up front as passive target detectors and terminal guidance units. All the tech in the guys up front, all the firepower (and resulting high signature) in the back spewing out missiles.
Great upgrade. I'd love to see a lateral ATGM mount as well (Spike?) to give it the capability to engage heavy armor at longer ranges as well, to relief the shrunken Challeneger force a bit and stronger frontal/lateral armor/ERA/cage to counter HEAT shells and ATGMs/RPGs. It's nice to have a main weapon that can reach out and has a evil punch, but so do a lot of potentially adverserial vehicles, zo protection needs to evolve as well imho. And I'd love to see an armor protection system (Trophy or equivalent), just giving the vehicle and its crew/infantry squad that extra bit of protection. But I would totally get it, if the MoD decides not to do that and wait for a version of the AJAX arnored scout vehicle suitable for IFV, so that the turret might be transferred to that. One point of concern; it is my understanding that the CT40 gun mainly is designed to combat lightly armored vehicles, demounted infantry and helicopters, but is less capable to do serious damage to more heavily armored IFVs at mid range, due to the loss of kinetic energy the telescopic rounds produce. I don't know wether that is true... The German Puma with its 30mm on the other hand is said to have a devastatingly hard hitting AP round, just like the CV90/35 and CV90/40, which are said to also have a bit mnore effective range against armored vehicles (up to 3.000m against 2.000m for the CT40). Can't seem to be able to find enough data on the CT40 though...
Since they are upgrading the turret and during GW2 they mounted MILAN on the turrets of a few Warriors I would have expected it to be a capability to be added later just to shift costs a bit, it would be a nice addition though
@@chaz8758 Agree, you never know when ypu run into an angry MBT. If that occurs it's always nice to know one has something at hand to match that big boom stick of his (grin). Preferably something with a bit more range than the Javelin, since that requires operating well within range of its gun (ad thermal imaging sights), something I never felt comfortably with operating the M-47 Dragon in my time with the armor infantry (with only 1.100m of range, well within the range of a coaxial MG).
Simply to save space. Stabilisers take up room, and they wanted to keep the turret as small as possible. The thing was never intended to fight on the move.
They should should just give it a CITV system like the Bradley and modern tanks have. Instead of mounting cameras all over just give the commander a camera that swivels and stick a monitor hooked up to it in the troop compartment. I think that's much better than having stationary cameras all over.
@@huntforandrew But if CITV gets shot... Multiple cameras(preferrably with overlapping views) allow on-board computer to piece together images from all cameras(cars already can do this today) for a panoramic view of the battlefield(without having a panning camera that can be hit and disabled easily). Like this: ruclips.net/video/PE5MySNqcMU/видео.html But better.
I've been watching bits and bobs of yours for a while, figured I ought to finally subscribe. I find military vehicles fascinating from the engineering perspective (I also believe that there are too many trade offs made between new and shiny vs Ronseal and built to last but hey, I'm an outsider) and remember seeing many proposed upgrades, new systems etc in a publication called Military Technology way back when. You seem to be my best source for my engineering fix!
Let's hope they correctly implement the chain gun correctly this time. If I remember correctly back in the 90's it was mounted upside down or something.
Its such a weird thing, on camp the name Matsimus is like armed forces legend. Everyone knows of him, even the OC. Pity about the REME part, could be worse....could be RMP ;)
Up to the point and factual as always. Thanx so much. The monitor scenes also corresponding with what is said and explained that even a not-pro millitary person will follow easily. It will be smart if a comparison video is produced of same type vehicles of different nations discussing everyone in fine detail putting also some historical facts for getting a better understanding.
I had fun in Light Aid Detachments with their predecessors, the FV434's and FV432's of the 22 Cheshire Rgt in Minden, followed by the CVR(T) Scorpion, Scimitar, Samson, Spartan etc. with the 13/18 Hussars in Wimbish UK before getting sent on to 12 Armoured Workshop in Osnabruck. Detachment trips in between to Northern Ireland, Wales gunnery ranges, 2 Cyprus UN tours and Sunny Belize. Fun times in the REME, 1976-1984. Miscellaneous old junk we worked on; Fox's, Ferrets, Bedford 3 tonners, Stalwarts, Humber pigs, Saracens and every old, scabby Land Rover variant under the sun 😁 Man, had to really rack my brains trying to remember, seems so long ago now.
I like these new cartridge schemes. You can put a larger caliber explosive round, or use a sabot instead of the classic necked down caliber cartridge, and you can do it in the same [ammo] space.
Remember when the Bradley was meant to be an APC, but became a troop transport that can't carry troops, a scout vehicle that is too tall and slow to scout, and a light tank that has enough firepower to level a city block but with barely enough armor to resist a small cannon
@@CharliMorganMusic it's almost like the military realised the M113 would work fine as an APC, and what they really needed was an IFV for frontline support roles...
It's been hard to keep track of this one. 245 will receive the upgraded turret and electronics, another 100 the upgraded electronics and then the rest will have the turret removed and turned into battlefield taxis. So how many will that be in total?
@@sunnycat69 I know I've just been trying to work out would it have just been cheaper to scrap them and order another 240 ajax for £1bn. LM was pissed away a lot of money redesigning turrets because they thought they could install the cta cannon on the original. Never should have been selected over BAE, it was just to prove a point over the nimrod and astute screw ups.
@@killagamez4619 They're good, but both support vehicles. Currently the Vickers is Britains best top tier vehicle as it fits the meta of the game. Mobility.
Was a gunner in the 90's,that rarden was a complete pain in the arse to strip and clean. Hughes chain gun was shit as well....here's a good idea let's use a gravity fed weapon system but turn it upside down so it stretches the 762 link and jams constantly.
Warrior upgrades, Chally 2 upgrades, procurement of Boxer and Ajax vehicles is fantastic and sounds really great for the modern British Army going into the future.🇬🇧🇬🇧✌✌
Since the Ajax programme appears to be on the verge of being discontinued, why don't the British Army take a bunch of upgraded Warriors and turn them into recce variants? The rear troop compartment could be converted into a workstation area for an observer/radio operator/systems operator. Meanwhile, the commander commands the vehicle and the gunner engages targets when necessary and also acts as a second observer.
When I went to Army careers office as a boy in 1989, before i joined up at 16 in 1990, the literature and brochures I got had the new Warrior vehicles in fancy exercise pictures and it looked modern and fantastic. It never crossed my mind that 30 years later, we're still talking about the Warrior in the British Army and just waiting for a life extension programme that will keep it going for probably about another 20 years. We certainly know how to get our money's worth from military hardware..... think about the Lee Enfield. 303, the brilliant SLR, the Scimitar, the FV 432 and the Warrior. 🇬🇧🇬🇧✌✌
Quick firing 4cm autocanon? We finally have a proper gun for the Churchill tank. When can we expect this cannon to be mounted in Mosquitos for tank busting?
ah, the Churchill, ugly as sin, Armed like a medium tank, slower than a heavy tank, as heavily armoured as a tiger and could cross terrain other tanks couldn't dream of, it worked surprisingly well all things considered.
As a former RARDEN gunner on CVRT this really is a game changer. RARDEN really is a pig to fire on the move and should not be attempted on the move - fire would only be attempted in staggered 'bounds'. Matt this really is screaming out for an piece on AJAX ........................
Will we ever get rid of this cold war beast? I think the M.O.D are hanging onto the Warrior like some tattered old, mangy but much loved family dog. A fully stabilised 40mm gun upgrade, auto loader, updated fire control system, better all round visibility, alongside upgraded armour will keep the Warrior around for years to come. 🇬🇧🇬🇧✌✌
Seeing the direction most apcs are going, I wonder if there'l be demand for a basic but still decently armourded battlefield taxi like the Patria 6x6 that's currently being developed.
Nice to see the Warrior getting a new weapon / interface system. A penny for your thoughts on the CAMO system for the French (and Belgian) army featuring the new Jaguar / Griffon and refurbished Leclerc MBT [France only - maybe even with a 140mm cannon] ;)
It’s a beast a god damn beauty, I loved it second stage fan sucking in everything nearby. Needs a new turret and a new engine CV 8 can’t ho on for much longer.
I say re-engine the M4 Sherman (we've still got lots in Cosmoline), extend the crew compartment rearward, add three more seats . . . thermal imagers . . . think of how inexpensive spare parts would be! You might even downgun it to a reliable autocannon (I love the 40mm/L60 of course) . . . or regun it with the new Bofors 57mm . . . lots of room, lots of armor, a good turn of speed . . . Heck! Do the same thing with Churchill Mk IX! A 750hp Gas Turbine (about the same size as the twin lorry motors of the original), fit a few extra seats in, a la AVRE, and arm the turret with a PAIR of 40mm Bofors guns . . . thermal imagers . . . a satellite uplink . . . I mean, imagine the enemy's reaction to a 40mph, 150mm armored, Churchill!
Thanks for a considered response. I appreciate your point, but beg to differ. I cite the overreaching price of new tech. Old refits are far cheaper, in many notable cases. Not all, of course. But, when you have tens of thousands of an old tech item still in inventory . . . it brings down the price a lot.
Could you do an update video on the Rheinmetall Challenger 2? I'm also disappointed that it didn't get a hull armor upgrade, as the CV90 and Puma are protected against 30mm apfsds.
The RARDEN's 30mm round travels at 1000m/s The new 40x255mm for the CTAS40 goes 1600m/s If you include the heavier projectile that is a _considerable_ increase in how hard you're hitting I wonder what the penetration is.
probably in excess of 100mm RHS equivalent up close, will mostly depend on the warhead at any feasible range. Would not be surprised if ATGMs form the anti-armour punch and the 40mm becomes anti-structure/sensor based fragmentation for infantry.
I don't know if anyone else has mentioned this but the new turret on the Warrior is the "same" as the Ajax. Commonality to keep costs down. There is also upgrades to the suspension to allow weight growth. I don't know if the engine has changed or upgraded though.
It seems to me that the Brit MoD is way less bureaucratic than many others I became acquainted with. Including mine, of course. Kudos on the upgrade! :-) Ps- Regarding the digital comms you mentioned at some point, yes, you were right on the money, comms are part of a whole package all big names (IE, Raytheon, Thales) keep offering and upgrading. It involves everything - yes, everything - concerning mission planning, awareness and execution, with a boatload of features. You can have every bit of info gathered all the way from sats, to air or ground recon, and then distribute it to each element in a non-overwhelming, need-by-need basis. Brass at the tent sees everything in real time and makes the calls on the spot, aided by different operators. Anyway, won't bore you with this haha! Thanks for the great video Mat, no, I never forget to click on that thumbs-up :-) Have a good one mate!
The opposite really. The british MoD, along with the US DoD is probably the most bureaucratic in the world. It took them almost 20 years to adopt the Boxer.
@@jonny2954 Ohh bummer. You know when "you've heard about", but still "you want to believe that..." well, that was me on this one haha! I'm very sorry to hear that. The whole video really made it sound like the upgrade went from decision to motion in a smooth and rather fast fashion. Oh by the way, I'm not American m'friend, however I am indeed aware of how brutally bureaucratic their DoD is. May you have a great day sir!
@@hansvonmannschaft9062 This project, the Warrior Capability Sustainment Programme (WCSP) was started 8 years ago. Now it's 3.5 years delayed, more than £400m over budget and there are not enough viable hulls to upgrade (most of the hulls don't have the required structural integrity due to aluminium delamination issues).
How many troops will it be able to carry? Has it had to sacrifice what it was intended to do which was be a troop carrier, so it can have a bigger gun? Bigger gun means bigger turret right? So where does the more space come from?
@@adamleddy9894 In my opinion it´s really helpfull against terrorist or shooting rampage. In small streets of villages or towns against bad guys without anti tank weapons would it be great. You can drive this thing even in a shopping mall.
When it came out, I wondered if the basic RARDEN gun design couldn't have been done in 35x228 instead of 30x170? That would have been an outstanding piece of kit, and still fully competitive today.
I’m 16 and am currently just waiting for my medical details to come back and I am waiting for a date for selection, I am very excited about joining. I have applied to be a REME and I would like to know more about basic training at 16
So in summation, gentlemen... What you have before you is: A troop transport that can't carry troops, A reconnaissance vehicle that's too conspicuous to do reconnaissance, And a quasi tank that has less armour than a snowblower, but has enough ammo to take out half of D.C. Fantastic!
You’d be surprised, the CT40 is probably quite potent against armour. It fires a tungsten APFSDS round and because it’s cased telescopic ammunition it’s very high velocity. It’s primary role is obviously fire support for the infantry, therefore the HE and HEVTF are probably more useful. It’s not designed to go toe-to-toe with MBT’s but would probably put up a good fight at medium to short ranges, the small APFSDS round fired in large quantities would smash barrels and optics, as well as ripping tracks and fuel tanks. The small rounds would also sneak their way in through turret ring gaps and similar universal weak spots. From the side, the 40mm CTA APFSDS would absolutely destroy tanks and other armoured vehicles. However, it’s unlikely that these Warriors would face any MBT’s without the aid of the Apache Longbow or the Challenger 2, which are designed to kill tanks.
What other armour has Warrior had to fight against that it hasn’t been able to overcome? Seems reasonable to upgrade it (wasn’t it designed in the 1970’s) but it appears to have been very sensibly operated and upgraded over its service life.
Well remember Ajax isn't capable of transporting troops as well as fighting the way the Warrior can, that's why I myself was under the impression we were replacing them with the Boxer wheeled AFV instead
@@1IbramGaunt so if i understand correctly you think we are replacing the worrier with the boxer (for transporting troops) and the ajax for the fire power?
@@olliplaysfm2951 no I thought the Ajax was an entirely separate thing, meant to replace stuff like the Scimitar light tank, could be wrong about that though? but it IS a smaller vehicle with less internal capacity and the Boxer can carry more troops than both, so just thought that the Warrior was on the way out either way
@@alexdunphy3716 Cool, so they've actually got it done. Does anybody know who the technology belongs to? Are there some useful patents? Some export money would be nice, it's been awhile since we had a killer (hur) app like the L7.
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The Warrior Tea Transporter is often overlooked by military analysts yet it plays an important role in the morale of the Englishman at Arms. It can brew the tea on the move with its carbon water filter using the same tech as Bosch instant household hot water heaters with a manual option to rout the water through stainless tubing coiled around the upper exhaust pipe. The Tea Kettle is 416 weapons grade stainless with the same servos that balance the 40 mm cannon except it keeps the tealeaves from being sloshed and frothing the tea over rough terrain. Another benefit of the KSU (Kettle Stabilizer Unit) is keeping the tea leaves from crumbling and making the tea too bitter in conjunction with the triple filtration system. The triple filtration is through a folded T shirt of pure cotton, a cylinder of tube socks and the dust prefilter from the soldier gas mask canister. This way it can be maintained when the vehicle is at extended range from the supply chain. The Cream, Sugar and crumpet cases are still top secret but there's nothing like them in the world regarding quality, survivability, and upgradeability.
Your well funny 😄 thanks I needed a good laugh ta. I wonder where they keep the tea towels ?
Have you been on the seaweed again?
The boiling vessel…Britain’s secret weapon has the rest of the world in awe 😮
Amazing isn't it, at the start of WW2 the main anti tank gun on tanks was 37mm and they loaded it one shell at a time.
Now APC's have 40mm guns that fire on automatic...
And 30mm gatling guns that fire 3900 rounds a minute.
@@Gerbs1913 Is that 5 barrels worn out per minute with Cta 40 lol
Modern IFVs fill the roll of the light tank and APC. They scout, suppress infantry and transport them. all on a budget.
They also had 37mm auto cannon...
Yes, and many of the tanks and other armoured vehicles during the Second World War would have been no match for modern-day infantry fighting vehicles. IFV's mounting either a 30 or 40mm gun firing programmable proximity-burst rounds would have been absolute murder even on dug-in infantry.
The ground portion of the Second World War would have ended fairly quickly if somehow modern-day IFV's could have been deployed through some weird kind of time travel or time warp.
Pentagon Wars was right at some point the APCs are so focussed on fighting that the soldier have to start to walk again.
They're too cheap to actually provide the soldiers with battle taxi... haha
@@X.Y.Z.07 well if these are kept in service of course that's what they ARE for, in theory anyway
@@revolverswitch So like a floating fortress? Almost like a War Balloon, sans balloon and add wings and doing loops?
pentagon wars is genius in iit's prediction of future procuration of fighting vehicles. Amazingly.
@@revolverswitch Don't laugh. I read of one idea to repurpose C-130s or strategic bombers as missile buses with F-22s and F-35s up front as passive target detectors and terminal guidance units. All the tech in the guys up front, all the firepower (and resulting high signature) in the back spewing out missiles.
I showed this to my Dog, he's now serving in Afghanistan...
Taliban dog?
NICK THORP obviously not it is a warrior after all
@@nickthorp5790 No, he's a Corporal in the British Army. Show some respect...
@@nickthorp5790 yes
Good boy.
Excellent move! The 40mm upgrade is an order of magnitude jump in hitting power...the 40mm is a sledge hammer with the right ammo. Good idea.
Not really. The cost of ammo just doubled for the tax payer.
@@robertcornelius3514 Per round, yes, but you need less rounds and individual rounds can do more.
@@robertcornelius3514 2x the bang for 2x the buck.
Or as it's British, twice the pound for... twice the pound.
40mm air burst is naaaaasty
@@Treblainebigger stick bigger bonk
Awesome, really digging that retro-Cromwell turret look with the modular armour.
Saw this thing at tank fest this year , looks like a complete new vehicle in comparison to the current version
Thanks Matsimus, always a good show!
Great upgrade.
I'd love to see a lateral ATGM mount as well (Spike?) to give it the capability to engage heavy armor at longer ranges as well, to relief the shrunken Challeneger force a bit and stronger frontal/lateral armor/ERA/cage to counter HEAT shells and ATGMs/RPGs. It's nice to have a main weapon that can reach out and has a evil punch, but so do a lot of potentially adverserial vehicles, zo protection needs to evolve as well imho. And I'd love to see an armor protection system (Trophy or equivalent), just giving the vehicle and its crew/infantry squad that extra bit of protection. But I would totally get it, if the MoD decides not to do that and wait for a version of the AJAX arnored scout vehicle suitable for IFV, so that the turret might be transferred to that.
One point of concern; it is my understanding that the CT40 gun mainly is designed to combat lightly armored vehicles, demounted infantry and helicopters, but is less capable to do serious damage to more heavily armored IFVs at mid range, due to the loss of kinetic energy the telescopic rounds produce. I don't know wether that is true... The German Puma with its 30mm on the other hand is said to have a devastatingly hard hitting AP round, just like the CV90/35 and CV90/40, which are said to also have a bit mnore effective range against armored vehicles (up to 3.000m against 2.000m for the CT40). Can't seem to be able to find enough data on the CT40 though...
Since they are upgrading the turret and during GW2 they mounted MILAN on the turrets of a few Warriors I would have expected it to be a capability to be added later just to shift costs a bit, it would be a nice addition though
@@chaz8758 Agree, you never know when ypu run into an angry MBT. If that occurs it's always nice to know one has something at hand to match that big boom stick of his (grin). Preferably something with a bit more range than the Javelin, since that requires operating well within range of its gun (ad thermal imaging sights), something I never felt comfortably with operating the M-47 Dragon in my time with the armor infantry (with only 1.100m of range, well within the range of a coaxial MG).
@@Pincer88 Javelin is being updated with twice the range.
@@bradleyanderson4315 That's excellent news. Thanks for the update.
Why does warriors have no stabilization on 30mm gun? Looks like a huge disadvantage how he wiggle his gun up and down.
Simply to save space. Stabilisers take up room, and they wanted to keep the turret as small as possible. The thing was never intended to fight on the move.
I wouldn't like to load a clip of 30 mm on the move ,with a stabilised gun
In short? Theyre old
They're also manually loaded.
The gun is also a short-recoil design that's supposed to even fit armored cars.
In short, it was a bad fit.
The more I learn about the Warrior the more I think that not a single good idea was had during it's design process.
Dude thats some seriously sexy stuff
360 is a must all crew needs to be aware, the camera can be cleaned by compressed air nozzle on the lens.
They should should just give it a CITV system like the Bradley and modern tanks have. Instead of mounting cameras all over just give the commander a camera that swivels and stick a monitor hooked up to it in the troop compartment. I think that's much better than having stationary cameras all over.
@@huntforandrew But if CITV gets shot...
Multiple cameras(preferrably with overlapping views) allow on-board computer to piece together images from all cameras(cars already can do this today) for a panoramic view of the battlefield(without having a panning camera that can be hit and disabled easily).
Like this:
ruclips.net/video/PE5MySNqcMU/видео.html
But better.
The french are installing that 40mm in their new Jaguar EBRC Recon Vehicle.
I've been watching bits and bobs of yours for a while, figured I ought to finally subscribe. I find military vehicles fascinating from the engineering perspective (I also believe that there are too many trade offs made between new and shiny vs Ronseal and built to last but hey, I'm an outsider) and remember seeing many proposed upgrades, new systems etc in a publication called Military Technology way back when. You seem to be my best source for my engineering fix!
Great video. I believe the 40mm weapon is referred to as CTA: case telescoped armament, where the projectile is embedded in the cartridge case.
Just a small correction: 'CTA' stands for Caseless Telescoped Ammunition.
Let's hope they correctly implement the chain gun correctly this time. If I remember correctly back in the 90's it was mounted upside down or something.
The chaingun is the piece that was mounted upside down
Its such a weird thing, on camp the name Matsimus is like armed forces legend. Everyone knows of him, even the OC. Pity about the REME part, could be worse....could be RMP ;)
Lol
Another great video Matt, really enjoy your content.
Up to the point and factual as always. Thanx so much. The monitor scenes also corresponding with what is said and explained that even a not-pro millitary person will follow easily. It will be smart if a comparison video is produced of same type vehicles of different nations discussing everyone in fine detail putting also some historical facts for getting a better understanding.
I had fun in Light Aid Detachments with their predecessors, the FV434's and FV432's of the 22 Cheshire Rgt in Minden, followed by the CVR(T) Scorpion, Scimitar, Samson, Spartan etc. with the 13/18 Hussars in Wimbish UK before getting sent on to 12 Armoured Workshop in Osnabruck. Detachment trips in between to Northern Ireland, Wales gunnery ranges, 2 Cyprus UN tours and Sunny Belize. Fun times in the REME, 1976-1984. Miscellaneous old junk we worked on; Fox's, Ferrets, Bedford 3 tonners, Stalwarts, Humber pigs, Saracens and every old, scabby Land Rover variant under the sun 😁
Man, had to really rack my brains trying to remember, seems so long ago now.
I like these new cartridge schemes. You can put a larger caliber explosive round, or use a sabot instead of the classic necked down caliber cartridge, and you can do it in the same [ammo] space.
Meanwhile the USA is planning on putting a 50mm chain gun in the Bradley's replacement
Remember when the Bradley was meant to be an APC, but became a troop transport that can't carry troops, a scout vehicle that is too tall and slow to scout, and a light tank that has enough firepower to level a city block but with barely enough armor to resist a small cannon
Moop basically a tank destroyer with thin armor.
@@CharliMorganMusic I find the Panhard EBR sexier
@@CharliMorganMusic it's almost like the military realised the M113 would work fine as an APC, and what they really needed was an IFV for frontline support roles...
Except that 50 mm is just a necked out 35 mm.
It's been hard to keep track of this one. 245 will receive the upgraded turret and electronics, another 100 the upgraded electronics and then the rest will have the turret removed and turned into battlefield taxis. So how many will that be in total?
I can't upgrade everything tight budget got to pay for that NHS
@@sunnycat69 I know I've just been trying to work out would it have just been cheaper to scrap them and order another 240 ajax for £1bn. LM was pissed away a lot of money redesigning turrets because they thought they could install the cta cannon on the original. Never should have been selected over BAE, it was just to prove a point over the nimrod and astute screw ups.
@@sunnycat69 Fuck you.
realy dig this beast, great vid Mat as all ways
Why is that Warrior shooting at a Punch & Judy show?
Cos "thats the way they do it!"
Hey, you never know, those glove puppets could be insurgents in disguise!
Great review as always!
The sound of that 40mm, I’d hate to be on the receiving end of that! I have an allergy to 40mm rounds.
Good stuff! Thanks!
Strictly speaking windows also get covered in dust, doesn't mean we stop using them, which is why it's good to have wipers on both.
Post just as I unlock this in war thunder! Thanks Mat!
Winston Churchill the cally 2 and warrior are so good on war thunder. Im working on getting the stormer and phantom
@@killagamez4619 They're good, but both support vehicles. Currently the Vickers is Britains best top tier vehicle as it fits the meta of the game. Mobility.
Eddy S true. Chally 2 is good at that wave mode against AI because you hull down most of the time
Mini leopard 2, turret, however as an engineer ive always had questions about the ammo capacity and fire rate of that new cannon.
Was a gunner in the 90's,that rarden was a complete pain in the arse to strip and clean. Hughes chain gun was shit as well....here's a good idea let's use a gravity fed weapon system but turn it upside down so it stretches the 762 link and jams constantly.
Warrior upgrades, Chally 2 upgrades, procurement of Boxer and Ajax vehicles is fantastic and sounds really great for the modern British Army going into the future.🇬🇧🇬🇧✌✌
Infantry support vehicle is the word i was looking for 👍
Still needs a ATGW system to combat MBT's when they will inevitably come across them.
Since the Ajax programme appears to be on the verge of being discontinued, why don't the British Army take a bunch of upgraded Warriors and turn them into recce variants? The rear troop compartment could be converted into a workstation area for an observer/radio operator/systems operator. Meanwhile, the commander commands the vehicle and the gunner engages targets when necessary and also acts as a second observer.
I like the idea, it makes sense, so the MOD won't go with it...
When I went to Army careers office as a boy in 1989, before i joined up at 16 in 1990, the literature and brochures I got had the new Warrior vehicles in fancy exercise pictures and it looked modern and fantastic. It never crossed my mind that 30 years later, we're still talking about the Warrior in the British Army and just waiting for a life extension programme that will keep it going for probably about another 20 years. We certainly know how to get our money's worth from military hardware..... think about the Lee Enfield. 303, the brilliant SLR, the Scimitar, the FV 432 and the Warrior. 🇬🇧🇬🇧✌✌
Is it going to get a stabilizer
Quick firing 4cm autocanon? We finally have a proper gun for the Churchill tank. When can we expect this cannon to be mounted in Mosquitos for tank busting?
ah, the Churchill, ugly as sin, Armed like a medium tank, slower than a heavy tank, as heavily armoured as a tiger and could cross terrain other tanks couldn't dream of, it worked surprisingly well all things considered.
Looks a solid upgrade.
I hope the American Bradley gets something big like a 50 mm or 37 mm
Mat i thought MOD had stopped this upgrade?
As a former RARDEN gunner on CVRT this really is a game changer. RARDEN really is a pig to fire on the move and should not be attempted on the move - fire would only be attempted in staggered 'bounds'. Matt this really is screaming out for an piece on AJAX ........................
Will we ever get rid of this cold war beast? I think the M.O.D are hanging onto the Warrior like some tattered old, mangy but much loved family dog.
A fully stabilised 40mm gun upgrade, auto loader, updated fire control system, better all round visibility, alongside upgraded armour will keep the Warrior around for years to come. 🇬🇧🇬🇧✌✌
Why was stabilization not present in the current version?
New systems on is fantastic.
But dear god that turret looks awful
@Charles Yuditsky Looks way worse than a leo 2 lol
i think it looks fine reminds me of the Cromwell
@Charles Yuditsky Cromwell
@@GI.Jared1984 At least the cromwells symmetrical
It doesn't have to look nice. It has to work.
Seeing the direction most apcs are going, I wonder if there'l be demand for a basic but still decently armourded battlefield taxi like the Patria 6x6 that's currently being developed.
Land Rover and Humvee battlefield replacement vehicles
Unless the Tea maker is upgraded too, I don't want ro hear about it
It just won't do :)
Nice to see the Warrior getting a new weapon / interface system.
A penny for your thoughts on the CAMO system for the French (and Belgian) army featuring the new Jaguar / Griffon and refurbished Leclerc MBT [France only - maybe even with a 140mm cannon] ;)
Windshield wipers exist because dust and dirt covers the cars windscreens aswell as wiper fluid helping.
It’s a beast a god damn beauty, I loved it second stage fan sucking in everything nearby. Needs a new turret and a new engine CV 8 can’t ho on for much longer.
I say re-engine the M4 Sherman (we've still got lots in Cosmoline), extend the crew compartment rearward, add three more seats . . . thermal imagers . . . think of how inexpensive spare parts would be! You might even downgun it to a reliable autocannon (I love the 40mm/L60 of course) . . . or regun it with the new Bofors 57mm . . . lots of room, lots of armor, a good turn of speed . . .
Heck! Do the same thing with Churchill Mk IX! A 750hp Gas Turbine (about the same size as the twin lorry motors of the original), fit a few extra seats in, a la AVRE, and arm the turret with a PAIR of 40mm Bofors guns . . . thermal imagers . . . a satellite uplink . . . I mean, imagine the enemy's reaction to a 40mph, 150mm armored, Churchill!
That's not actually very good these days. Many autocannons can go through 50-150mm of steel pretty easily
@@alexdunphy3716 not if you stick ERA over that in turn they can't
Sounds like a fun plastic model kit bash as it's called. Like a P-47 with Bullpup or Hellfire missiles.
Thanks for a considered response. I appreciate your point, but beg to differ. I cite the overreaching price of new tech. Old refits are far cheaper, in many notable cases. Not all, of course. But, when you have tens of thousands of an old tech item still in inventory . . . it brings down the price a lot.
@@1IbramGaunt I like it!
@Matsimus Can you do a video on Lockhead's 50mm Cannon,if you haven't already?
Could you do an update video on the Rheinmetall Challenger 2? I'm also disappointed that it didn't get a hull armor upgrade, as the CV90 and Puma are protected against 30mm apfsds.
Warrior has supplementary armour packs for the sides plus bar armour.
@@thewomble1509 that wont stop 120mm heat or missiles.
@@jacobbaumgardner3406 It isn't meant to.
@@thewomble1509 it should, otherwise whats the point.
The RARDEN's 30mm round travels at 1000m/s
The new 40x255mm for the CTAS40 goes 1600m/s
If you include the heavier projectile that is a _considerable_ increase in how hard you're hitting
I wonder what the penetration is.
probably in excess of 100mm RHS equivalent up close, will mostly depend on the warhead at any feasible range. Would not be surprised if ATGMs form the anti-armour punch and the 40mm becomes anti-structure/sensor based fragmentation for infantry.
140 mm RHA at 1500 meters. Not very much for a 40 mm but that is because it focuses on HE and airburst payload increase, not KE penetration.
I don't know if anyone else has mentioned this but the new turret on the Warrior is the "same" as the Ajax. Commonality to keep costs down. There is also upgrades to the suspension to allow weight growth. I don't know if the engine has changed or upgraded though.
So no mounting the L7 for a TD variant ?
Did they upgrade the kettle?
Mechanically, what were the main failure points on the vehicle in terms of maintenance?
Does it have a stabiliser yet
Marvin Heymeier fixed the camera dust problem
Mat great review Mate! 👀👍
Can't you put wipers on a camera as is done on automobile windshields?
Saw some previews of it at DSEI a few years a back.
It seems to me that the Brit MoD is way less bureaucratic than many others I became acquainted with. Including mine, of course. Kudos on the upgrade! :-)
Ps- Regarding the digital comms you mentioned at some point, yes, you were right on the money, comms are part of a whole package all big names (IE, Raytheon, Thales) keep offering and upgrading. It involves everything - yes, everything - concerning mission planning, awareness and execution, with a boatload of features. You can have every bit of info gathered all the way from sats, to air or ground recon, and then distribute it to each element in a non-overwhelming, need-by-need basis. Brass at the tent sees everything in real time and makes the calls on the spot, aided by different operators. Anyway, won't bore you with this haha! Thanks for the great video Mat, no, I never forget to click on that thumbs-up :-) Have a good one mate!
The opposite really. The british MoD, along with the US DoD is probably the most bureaucratic in the world. It took them almost 20 years to adopt the Boxer.
@@jonny2954 Ohh bummer. You know when "you've heard about", but still "you want to believe that..." well, that was me on this one haha!
I'm very sorry to hear that. The whole video really made it sound like the upgrade went from decision to motion in a smooth and rather fast fashion.
Oh by the way, I'm not American m'friend, however I am indeed aware of how brutally bureaucratic their DoD is.
May you have a great day sir!
@@hansvonmannschaft9062 This project, the Warrior Capability Sustainment Programme (WCSP) was started 8 years ago. Now it's 3.5 years delayed, more than £400m over budget and there are not enough viable hulls to upgrade (most of the hulls don't have the required structural integrity due to aluminium delamination issues).
How many troops will it be able to carry? Has it had to sacrifice what it was intended to do which was be a troop carrier, so it can have a bigger gun? Bigger gun means bigger turret right? So where does the more space come from?
Can you take a look at the german Wiesel tank?
Yes
He did some time ago... plus its obsolete
@@adamleddy9894 In my opinion it´s really helpfull against terrorist or shooting rampage. In small streets of villages or towns against bad guys without anti tank weapons would it be great. You can drive this thing even in a shopping mall.
Not from this distance.......
When it came out, I wondered if the basic RARDEN gun design couldn't have been done in 35x228 instead of 30x170? That would have been an outstanding piece of kit, and still fully competitive today.
I saw this close up at TankFest 2019
FINALLY STABILISED GUNS!!!! *ORGASM .MP3*
Finally a step into the 21st century and only two decades late :)))))
Always liked the warrior. This, in theory, should be a good upgrade.
why are you not keen on the chain gun ?
Camera's getting dusty sounds like an easy thing to solve. Even consumer cars have windshield wipers and water sprayers.
Could this system be mounted on the Stryker to modernize that APC
I’m 16 and am currently just waiting for my medical details to come back and I am waiting for a date for selection, I am very excited about joining. I have applied to be a REME and I would like to know more about basic training at 16
Do some push ups, pull ups, flutter kicks, situps, and burpees till you want to puke, and then, run till you do.
Don't worry. By the time Capita process your application you'll be about 23 anyway.
No anti tank missiles?
So in summation, gentlemen... What you have before you is:
A troop transport that can't carry troops,
A reconnaissance vehicle that's too conspicuous to do reconnaissance,
And a quasi tank that has less armour than a snowblower, but has enough ammo to take out half of D.C.
Fantastic!
More toys for the boys! I think it needs a couple of Wizz bangs on the side for MBT's otherwise that 40 is only gonna chip paint.
You’d be surprised, the CT40 is probably quite potent against armour. It fires a tungsten APFSDS round and because it’s cased telescopic ammunition it’s very high velocity. It’s primary role is obviously fire support for the infantry, therefore the HE and HEVTF are probably more useful. It’s not designed to go toe-to-toe with MBT’s but would probably put up a good fight at medium to short ranges, the small APFSDS round fired in large quantities would smash barrels and optics, as well as ripping tracks and fuel tanks. The small rounds would also sneak their way in through turret ring gaps and similar universal weak spots. From the side, the 40mm CTA APFSDS would absolutely destroy tanks and other armoured vehicles. However, it’s unlikely that these Warriors would face any MBT’s without the aid of the Apache Longbow or the Challenger 2, which are designed to kill tanks.
Don't get cocky people, it's not going to happen.. Boxer is replacing the warrior perfectly...
From the future....
What other armour has Warrior had to fight against that it hasn’t been able to overcome? Seems reasonable to upgrade it (wasn’t it designed in the 1970’s) but it appears to have been very sensibly operated and upgraded over its service life.
Why are we doing this? I thought we were replacing the worrier with the AJAX vehicle, or am i wrong with the AJAX replacing the worrier?
Well remember Ajax isn't capable of transporting troops as well as fighting the way the Warrior can, that's why I myself was under the impression we were replacing them with the Boxer wheeled AFV instead
Honestly not sure what's going on with that now
@@1IbramGaunt so if i understand correctly you think we are replacing the worrier with the boxer (for transporting troops) and the ajax for the fire power?
@@olliplaysfm2951 no I thought the Ajax was an entirely separate thing, meant to replace stuff like the Scimitar light tank, could be wrong about that though? but it IS a smaller vehicle with less internal capacity and the Boxer can carry more troops than both, so just thought that the Warrior was on the way out either way
@@1IbramGaunt ok, i get u, that makes sense thx
Outstanding comparing to CV90 and Boxer? And what is wrong with chaingun? :)
The ability to traverse and maintain target location it will be very cool
Is this the CTAS40 system?
The one that uses the stepping stone to caseless guns using Cased Telescoped Ammunition?
It's really cool.
It is
@@alexdunphy3716
Cool, so they've actually got it done.
Does anybody know who the technology belongs to?
Are there some useful patents?
Some export money would be nice, it's been awhile since we had a killer (hur) app like the L7.
Heard the Warrior Turret ring keeps cracking with new 40 mm Turret.
Would it still maintain the ATGM capabilities?
Please have turret stabilizer.
Does this thing FINALLY have a gun stabilizer though!?
Yes
Is in not just the turret from the Ajax?
What's wrong with the chain gun? Is it difficult to maintain?
For a follow up article, try the 50mm chain gun proposed in the US.
This looks small on the modern battlefield but this is the same gun caliber the Churchill I had, damn
Is the tea maker being upgraded
How does it stand up to ieds or mines?
Hey hey there. Thanks for the vid sir.
Heard the upgrade programme might be getting scrapped due to costs, which is not surprising as it's been going on since 2011.
Nice one Mats, AeM.
Lol it looks like a mini Cromwell!!!
I thought that this was getting replaced with the Ajax?
👍👍👍
will boxer be taking over?