HEADS UP! AMD JUST decided to drop the price from $299 to $269. I literally found out 2 hours ago. The video was made with AMDs previously communicated price of 299. Keep that in mind when you decide on what to get.
Cutting back on hardware features and pushing their AI features is a disappointment to me But I guess that is just their way of ensuring the consumer cards don't compete with their pro cards
It's not that easy, amd is now getting to the point where there tech is also costing money and are now realizing why nvidia is where they are. Amd can only do so much without losing insane amounts of money. They are trying but are coming across the ssme issues nvidia has but all people want to do is complain.
The RX7600 is meant to replace the RX6600. The gap between those 2 cards is 20%-25%. The 4060ti is meant to replace the 3060ti and the gap is 5%-7%. You're also comparing a difference of 2 stacks (rx6600, rx6600xt, rx6700xt) which doesn't make sense. The equivalent of the 4060ti will be the 7700xt which isn't even out yet. How can you say that it's more value to buy the 4060ti when the generational difference isn't even close between the two cards.
So what if the generational difference is less? it still gets more FPS at a lower power consumption. amd is overrated (I'm comparing the 4060 to the Rx 7600 not the 3060 btw)
@@doober.43 your name says it all. The 4060 is faster by a measly 2% (raster) when compared to the 7600 in 40 games at 1080p (@Hardwareunboxed). I can get a 7060 for $240 while the 4060 is $300 ($60 difference). That's a 20% higher cost for a 2% lead. At their power levels you save about $10 per year. So by the 3rd or 4th year, you buy a new GPU and the money you saved with electricity meant nothing. A 🐑 is a 🐑.
@@pkpnyt4711 The 4060 also has features like dlss, ray tracing and works much better in programs like blender. just spend the 30 bucks more and get the 4060
I really like that you have game summary and energy consumption. It really helps. At 6:03 in CS:GO, how does the 3060 Ti perform better than the 4060 Ti?
Would love to see you doing some realtime benchmarking segments for the cards, using BIOS overclock presets and Radeon Settings: Rage Mode, auto-overclock, auto-undervolt...that way we can see the average 1% lows and just overall watch the temps and everything too.
it's not necessarily better in 1080p, and not necessarily cheaper either. This is a tad newer and less power consumption but nothing major no. Basically same same.
@@user-wq9mw2xz3j Which is good, that you are getting the same or more for similar price. Only significant thing 6700 has over the 7600 is 2GB vram but the 7600 being a lower class is justified. You are still getting better ROCm support, AV1, AI cores which could be used for better upscaling and RT and slightly longer driver support.
What a joke of a video, I should make one comparing a 6950xt to a 4060ti, it's about the same price difference. a 7600 non xt is not a 4060 ti competitor, the 6600 non xt was a 3050ti competitor, which it handily spanked.
@@marcinkarpiuk7797 remember the glory days of 79$ HD4670 that offered 50% of high end 299$ HD4870 performance. These were the days. Now 299 seems to be the entry point and you ain't getting 50%.
@@sulev111 man you're a legend, still remember HD4670 & HD4870..I never try HD4870, but the little brother HD4850 is the best I ever had during my school life..
@@TechTesters That's certainly fair. I mean, you can compare anything. I do think comparing similar price points will be more interesting when the time comes.
Wow... the $400 card is 25% better than the 32% cheaper one. The only disapointing thing is nVidia's prices. I mean for the price, the RX 7600 is a good value proposition. Remember that not everyone can shell out 400 bucks for a video card. Thank AMD for letting us poor guys play with new hardware without breaking the bank account.
I think RX6600 is still the best budget king for 1080p gaming. It is the most power efficient (to performance it offers) graphics card to have ever been made running at 100W.
Hello. I have a question regarding your power consumption for the multi-monitor testing. I've noticed you show it dual monitors at 27W, but on Tech Power Up they show 18W. How can the wattage be so drastically different?
@@SirWolf2018 I had never heard of this guy before, checked out the video tho. Pretty damn interesting. AMD should post this workaround until they fix their drivers.
The electricity cost breakdown... at first, I won't lie, was like "Pffffttt who dafuq gives a poop about that?" and, well, must say, thought about it for a sec, and yea, while I might not, others def do somewhere and then I realized I don't really think I've seen a tech YT channel break it down with some graphs like ya did. Nice hehe
Problem with video. Your specs are BASIC. GPUs have multiple types of cores and it MAKES A DIFFERENCE. So can you LIST the specs for ALL the cores? PLEASE? I watch a review but then I STILL have to go read about the GPU. If I have to go READ about it I don't know why I should bother with another person's opinion.
The glaring problem is the fact that they have so many leftovers from last gen on clearance right now these prices seem dumb. They're pretty much on par for what prices would have been if the event in 2020 hadn't happened, but with a card that's at most 10% slower and 50 bucks cheaper sitting on the shelf next to it...they don't look so good. Rtx 3000 had the benefit of rtx 2000 being a total trainwreck with bad memory artifacting in 2080's raytracing being seen as a gimmick at the time. 4000 and 7000 have to deal with the fact that the tier above from last gen is sitting right next to it at around the same price.
Because when you compare it to the rx 6650xt which costs 220$ rn the 7600 doesn't justify the cost for performance. If 7600 is 220-230$ then it would be good.
7600 is not so exciting but at $270 price/performance is matching the 6000-series which are extremely good value at current prices. 6650XT/6700/6700XT/6750XT are absolute budget champions for 1080P and 1440P and then the 7600 just slots into that pack. So not setting the world alight but not terrible, and 25% performance gain over the 6600 is promising for the mid-range 7000-series cards.
The utility bill is not to be taken lightly. If I'm a budget gamer, spiking my power bill is just as bad as an over priced GPU. Worse even. If I need to choose between paying the power bill or paying my sub to FF14, EA Pro or Netflix, that's a no brainer. Maybe I am over thinking the whole 8 lane thing with the 7600 and the 4060 but that's the other thing that makes me wonder why would I buy that?
I'm disappointed at AMD. They should call it RX 7500 XT and price it at 200$. RT performance is not bad compared to previous generation, but not enough uplift in performance overall. This card should have performance of RX 6700 or even RX 6700 XT.
Thank you for reviewing. This card might end up in the computers of my kids in a few months. However a 6650 XT will also be sufficient. Time will tell. I really like your running cost calculations. I doubt we will see it for 300 Euro here in the Netherlands. Fingers crossed.
It was 299. Till last night, when they did a sudden price drop. We found out.. 2 hours ago? And by then the video was already made and uploaded. Pinning a comment right now.
isnt it 269$? 299$ are bad because 6700xt are only 20$ more and have 20% more performance with 12gb vram and 6700 are 269$ and basically same fast or something faster then 7600
Intel ARC A750 with driver improvements and decent UK & euroland prices looks really good against the RX 7600. Great to have more sub 300 cards new and used hit the market now.
please do a Collab video with LINUS?? your quality reviews and videos are not known to many.. the tech enthusist population needs to know that you channels exists. you are in Netherland so youtube algorithms dont bring it to world maybe.. i also found this channel by actively searching ssd reviews
LMAO! This is how NVIDIA boycott their own product to sell their own product. AMD: Have you heard of discount! hahahaha anyways thank you Nada and Techtester for yet another good review, more power!
Disappointing, I mean don't get me wrong I wouldn't buy it anyway (lack of money, worse raytracing performance, possibly still worse encoding performance/quality, increased power consumption and possibly temps), but it would have been nice to see some real competition for once. The drop to 269 is not bad, but IMO this is a 199 card. (Euros). Thanks for the video.
What sets this channel apart from the rest is they include power usage when reviewing GPUs. Something that most channels doesn't do, they are all about fps and whatnots.
I feel bad for the reviewers these days. The pricing is all messed up and the consumer didnt help anyone by buying over inflated cards before the pandemic nor after.
still is not a good buy at 269 when you can get 6700 none xts for 280 and 6700xts for like 320 to 360 depending where you look, which will give you more VRAM. Oh and this is new... going used I have seen 6700xts for as low as 290 here in the UK. Seeing as everyone is raging about VRAM and that 8gb is not it even on budget I dont see why anyone would pick this thing up. They also dropped the 6600 and 6600xt down more...
No need, AMD GPU really disappointing because it didn't delivered what 2 years update should. I only recommend this cards if you want to use AV1 encoder which can be found also in AMD zen 5 CPU. RX 6700XT is cheaper and also have 12GB VRAM which is better at 4K gaming
I'm a massive GPU nerd and I bought the 4060 Ti Founders Edition and RX 7600 Reference Card to collect them. I'm extremely disappointed in their performance. I never planned on using them but I'm probably going to return the 4060 Ti. 4060 Ti is the most disappointing GPU launch ever.
Honestly you are comparing a 7600 to a 4060ti a more fair comparison would be the 7600xt Vs the 4060ti or the 4060 Vs 7600 when they launch. Hopefully the 7600xt performs the same as the 3060ti or even 4060ti since it's not that far fetched and sell it for $100 cheaper
These are the two cheapest AMD/NV cards from the current generation. How is more data bad and how does it not help you decide which one might make sense for you?
I had doubt about witch one will be better for me because, i can't afford a new power supply (at least for now) for my 500w PSU. Looks like NVidia won this one.
Perhaps for the next GPU releases.. save time and just say.. "crap don't bother-save your money- go outside- revisit what grass looks and feels like" just get the feeling they want to kill PCs off!
'MAYBE AMD have something up their sleeve' Did anyone else see the nose twitch ? Got to be code for AMD definitely HAS SOMETHING UP THEIR SLEEVE ? or a double bluff ?!? . Well the cheeky charm only adds the this channels style and flare ! NDA Helsinki syndrome haha. My first impressions after watching my 'big 4' Tech RUclipsr's (LTT, GN, J2C and TT) this really feels like a respectable product that could use a 12GB option. Try and shave off around 15-25 currency units. Really weird AMD didn't just go with 12GB Buffer by default when they threw shade and Intel were thoughtful enough to give us all ARC 770 16GB - Doesn't that card look like a great purchase and no wonder it's basically sold out. 12GB version of this for say 309 feels like a real slam dunk. Had it had 192 Bit bus would have been a little ripper.
I'm so confused by the tech side of YT, both the 4060 ti and rx 7600 are being sold as 1080p cards yet one cost a lot more than the other yet both are seen as bad?
Sorry for being rude - but this needs to be said: This is what happens what people who don't know what they are talking about make reviews of mid range products. Let me guess you are used to high end stuff? The RX 7600 is an amazing card!... Ok if you actually care - then I will try to explain why - so I can hear your arguments - or see if you have any at all! This is gonna be a bit long I'm sure cause it's hard to explain quickly. Here we go: "I wish we got more" ... Really? You do? So a 20%-ish performance uplift and 60$ less in one generation is not good enough. Yeah sure I realize that is was 30$ - but even a 20% generation uplift at 30$ less - or about 10% less price - is some pretty good generational uplift right there?! Ok a small disclaimer which many people don't understand - so I will try (The creators of the video is not a target for this part - but rather for the general debate about this card which I'm currently hearing from people I'm helping build a mid range setup and who have been "reading up online"): One rules people NEED TO GET INTO THEIR HEADS is this: The mid range PC gamer is looking for a smooth playable framerate - mainly at 1080p (according to ALL the charts) They want good looking graphics - however to the VAST majority - all the "extra stuff" which takes away from your FPS is disabled. (again - according to all the charts) - this means that almost no one is shopping for an RTX XX60 or RX X6XX card with raytracing in mind! Raytracing is a thing which might be turned on for 5 minutes to go "that looks pretty" - and then replaced by "now give me back my high FPS"... For this reason - any arguments which goes "But what about RT" - should go debate about 500$+ GPUs. This is a 269$ GPU... - and just a note - I have a halo tier card in my main rig - so I have RT on all the time... except when I forget and still think it's on - because when you are playing you quickly stop to notice if the reflections in a puddle a crispy AF or not! So to my actual problem with the whole sentiment that this card is in ANY way a let down: Ok riddle me this: If the 4060 Ti barely outperforms the 3060 Ti - and sometimes loses slightly... how will a cut down version of the 4060 Ti - aka the 300$ 4060 perform vs the RX 6650 XT which in comparison to the 3060 Ti is -5 to 25% slower? So in essence a 230$ card which can do 105% at best and 75% at worst of the 3060 Ti - which is last gen... because the 7600 is not going up against the 4060 Ti - it's going up against the 4060! You actually start out well in somewhat pointing this out - however you seem to still get a bit blinded by the numbers from the 4060 Ti. It's NOT a good comparison. A good comparison would be putting it up against the older brother - aka the RX 6600. A hint to how this will play out could be: The 6650 XT fairly firmly beats the 3060 - and only in a few outliers can it JUST BARELY keep up with it - like in "Days gone". So if the 4060 is only slightly better than the 3060 like the 4060 Ti is only slightly better than the 3060 Ti....... then it's AT LEAST 50$ overpriced since the gaps in price/performance don't line up for Nvidia. It NEEDS to be A LOT better than the 3060 was to the 3060 Ti to even justify 230$ of the 6650 XT - let alone the 269$ of the 7600 - not to mention the 300$ MSRP. (In less convoluted words: The 4060 needs to beat the 6650XT/7600 which both beat up the 3060 by a fair bit - to in any way be worth the 300$ pricetag - which will be hard if the generation performance gap is maintained from the 3060 Ti vs 4060 Ti) And the kicker here is this. The Ti is supposed to be the "big daddy" version of the tier it's in right? So the card the 4060 Ti is up against is not actually the RX 7600 - because that card is a 269$ MSRP card. That's the card some people are putting it up against - and that's just - wrong? It's ACTUALLY the unreleased 7600 XT or 7650 XT. Those cards are coming soon... most likely :-D - and if they keep the price and performance gap between the XT/XX50 XT vs the non-XT from the previous gen - then the 4060 and the 4060 Ti are gonna look even worse...... because the 7600 is VERY close in performance to the last gen balls to the wall version in this class from AMD - the 6650 XT - so wonder how the 7650 XT will perform - AGAIN - if it all lines up. Just to refresh your memory - the RX 6600 had a MSRP of 329$ - and the RX 7600 has an MSRP of 269$ - aka 60$ less for the new gen! Think about that! Just for one second forget ALL about fanboy-ism! We are being told that "GPUs get more and more expensive to make" - YET the X600 series from AMD is 60$ lower for the NEW card! Why is no one celebrating this? 😀 NOW - the RX 6600 is not REALLY in the same performance class as the 6650 XT - just like the non-ti version of the 3060 is fairly massively outdone by the 3060 Ti... So the fact that we are getting a 269$ MSRP card with - with unmatured drivers - is on par with the last gen 399$ MSRP RX 6650 XT + AV1 encoder and other stuff - is ACTUALLY insane! Yes the 6650 XT is cheaper now which is normal (till stock runs out) - however - it this sorta craps all over Nvidias excuses for demanding such high prices for their mid tier cards! It's some VERY good generational performance uplift at a much lower price! Now please - tell me how this card is disappointing again! I don't see how you can if you compare it to the right cards. In other news my car SUCK because it's not a Veyron! 😀Massively disappointing! (Also most likely messed up some grammar or missed pointing something out which makes no sense - so will be happy to clarify 😀English is not my native tongue.)
I think your take on these two GPUs is as good as it can be. They were bad and overpriced GPUs with extremely small dies in Nvidia's case, typically reserved for lower tier GPUs. The 4060 will be rocking a 50 class die, so it will be just as bad.
I guess 4060 non ti and 7600 will be very close in raw performance, but power usage difference will be just humiliating. Also nvenc is miles better, DLSS is better quality than FSR, CUDA is widely supported on most popular software, normal support for OpenGL, DX11 ect. But in some peoples mind amd "won" because it will be 30 usd cheaper ... jesus christ that disconnect from reality.
AMD is "winning" because this is actually kinda an upgrade from the 6600 non XT. The 4060ti is even with the 3060ti. Nvidia will unlaunch the 4060ti in a few weeks/months and then relaunch it as the 4050ti I'd bet. AMD will drop the 7600's price $25-50 in the same time. That said- pascal/Turing to the grave.
I wouldn't be surprised if the 7600 drops to 250 or even lower and AMD cards are known for getting better with driver updates. Not saying it wil always be the better choice over the 4060 but DLSS isn't relevant to everyone. The reviewer of pcviewer noted that using DLSS at 1080p can actually result in artefacts.
Love Your Work. I Mean it. usually I download video of every channel I Sub . But Sis for You I pause my add blocker and paly your videos with. maybe it help you
@@TechTesters that's true, too bad they are both bad compared to other cards. Maybe when you have a bit more time you can compile your benchmarks from the past 12 months and show us the best value cards. Good work nonetheless 🙏
I share your disappointment: poor performance, bad efficiency, not so great price and not enough memory not to be outdated in the next 5 years or so. What's not to like. Makes the 4060Ti looks good even if the Ti is very underwhelming compared to past generation. i expected more. I would not buy it as an entry level card for today gaming not at that price.. Your pal Coco. OOps i missed the part with the price drop but yea still not that great a card.
HEADS UP! AMD JUST decided to drop the price from $299 to $269. I literally found out 2 hours ago.
The video was made with AMDs previously communicated price of 299. Keep that in mind when you decide on what to get.
They changed the msrp yesterday. Did you oversleep or something? 😅
This is a little bit unfair comparison, the 4060 Ti should be competing against the 7600 XT.
I got the memo 2 hours ago
hey why is it still $299 in the title?
Dont forget to update the title I guess
Both Nvidia and AMD very disappointing this generation!
Thanks for the video Nada! Excellent as always!
Nvidia is no where near as disappointing, just expensive.
Cutting back on hardware features and pushing their AI features is a disappointment to me
But I guess that is just their way of ensuring the consumer cards don't compete with their pro cards
@@Wobbothe3rd same thing, bad price to performance = disappointing
Thank you for making the power usage charts, something I used to not think about.
Yes, i love to see real cost of ownership!
I agree, it is important to think about power consumption.
This generation feels like a huge missed opportunity for AMD to take market share from Nvidia.
They did so well in the RX 6000, but decided to flop on the RX 7000. Thanks Evil Su!
It's not that easy, amd is now getting to the point where there tech is also costing money and are now realizing why nvidia is where they are. Amd can only do so much without losing insane amounts of money. They are trying but are coming across the ssme issues nvidia has but all people want to do is complain.
no the mining cards are true competitors for market share, realistically.
The prices on this video are wrong lmao.
AMD never misses an opportunity to miss an opportunity
The RX7600 is meant to replace the RX6600. The gap between those 2 cards is 20%-25%. The 4060ti is meant to replace the 3060ti and the gap is 5%-7%. You're also comparing a difference of 2 stacks (rx6600, rx6600xt, rx6700xt) which doesn't make sense. The equivalent of the 4060ti will be the 7700xt which isn't even out yet. How can you say that it's more value to buy the 4060ti when the generational difference isn't even close between the two cards.
Commenting so more people will be shown this common sense
So what if the generational difference is less? it still gets more FPS at a lower power consumption. amd is overrated
(I'm comparing the 4060 to the Rx 7600 not the 3060 btw)
@@doober.43 your name says it all. The 4060 is faster by a measly 2% (raster) when compared to the 7600 in 40 games at 1080p (@Hardwareunboxed). I can get a 7060 for $240 while the 4060 is $300 ($60 difference). That's a 20% higher cost for a 2% lead. At their power levels you save about $10 per year. So by the 3rd or 4th year, you buy a new GPU and the money you saved with electricity meant nothing. A 🐑 is a 🐑.
@@pkpnyt4711 The 4060 also has features like dlss, ray tracing and works much better in programs like blender. just spend the 30 bucks more and get the 4060
I really like that you have game summary and energy consumption. It really helps.
At 6:03 in CS:GO, how does the 3060 Ti perform better than the 4060 Ti?
Dont know why CSGO favours the 3000 series so much exactly. But its the same for the xx70 and xx80 as well
Great analysis about power prices… you are the only channel doing that !
Very nice in depth review
Incredible power usage breakdown. Thank you.
Would love to see you doing some realtime benchmarking segments for the cards, using BIOS overclock presets and Radeon Settings: Rage Mode, auto-overclock, auto-undervolt...that way we can see the average 1% lows and just overall watch the temps and everything too.
Thank you for sharing power consumption 🙂. I get my power all from solar and watt hours are crucial for me. So you got a new sub 😁
At $269 7600 is not 3060ti and 4060ti competitor. Why not include 3060 and 6650xt?
My thoughts exactly, X700 xt series is a competitor to the X060ti
Why get a 7600 when you can get a 6700 (non xt) for the same price and performs better?
it's not necessarily better in 1080p, and not necessarily cheaper either.
This is a tad newer and less power consumption but nothing major no.
Basically same same.
@@user-wq9mw2xz3j Which is good, that you are getting the same or more for similar price. Only significant thing 6700 has over the 7600 is 2GB vram but the 7600 being a lower class is justified. You are still getting better ROCm support, AV1, AI cores which could be used for better upscaling and RT and slightly longer driver support.
Excellent review and charts!
Why you guys putting down this card and most of the benchmark is against the 4060ti, this is not a XT card.
What a joke of a video, I should make one comparing a 6950xt to a 4060ti, it's about the same price difference. a 7600 non xt is not a 4060 ti competitor, the 6600 non xt was a 3050ti competitor, which it handily spanked.
I think this 199$ RX7500XT and 250$ RTX4050 perform quite well.
At least Radeon is closer to this price, still kinda dissapointed tho
@@marcinkarpiuk7797 remember the glory days of 79$ HD4670 that offered 50% of high end 299$ HD4870 performance. These were the days. Now 299 seems to be the entry point and you ain't getting 50%.
@@sulev111 man you're a legend, still remember HD4670 & HD4870..I never try HD4870, but the little brother HD4850 is the best I ever had during my school life..
I love savinngs lessons from Techtesters 🤩
Thanks, that power consumption comparison helps a lot. 37cent here in germany, provider "eon"
Can't wait for FS3. It may give some cards a longer life.
Why compare these 2 though? Isn't the 7600 supposed to compete with the 4060 which is similarly priced?
Cuz both launched back to back and are uterly disappointing.
Comparing a $270 card to a $400 card is a little silly. Let’s see what AMDs similarly priced card does and visa versa.
They told us it was a $299 card until earlier today.
Also its fair to compare the differences with a logical step up.
@@TechTesters That's certainly fair. I mean, you can compare anything. I do think comparing similar price points will be more interesting when the time comes.
I'm confused. If NVIDIA can do TSCM 4 nm, what is AMD doing with 6 nm? Even 5 nm was a disappointing choice for 7900 XT.
6nm itself is fine if it makes the card a lot cheaper imho. I guess Nvidia just has a lot more bargaining power with TSMC? (Read: Money)
Thank you for including power consumption for a Dual Monitor setup. This is my main use case.
$269 price seems pretty random but better than $299. GPU market is in a strange place.
The 6650xt is 229. this needs to be lower in price.
Wow... the $400 card is 25% better than the 32% cheaper one. The only disapointing thing is nVidia's prices. I mean for the price, the RX 7600 is a good value proposition. Remember that not everyone can shell out 400 bucks for a video card. Thank AMD for letting us poor guys play with new hardware without breaking the bank account.
I think RX6600 is still the best budget king for 1080p gaming. It is the most power efficient (to performance it offers) graphics card to have ever been made running at 100W.
RX 6700 10 GB is more power efficient than 6600. Possibly even 6800.
@@raresmacovei8382 but 8 and 10 no longer standard when PS5 pro release
Hello. I have a question regarding your power consumption for the multi-monitor testing. I've noticed you show it dual monitors at 27W, but on Tech Power Up they show 18W. How can the wattage be so drastically different?
This is explained by Ancient Gameplays. Some refresh rates contribute to higher energy consumption.
@@SirWolf2018 I had never heard of this guy before, checked out the video tho. Pretty damn interesting. AMD should post this workaround until they fix their drivers.
Sorry but this video is unfair. Wrong price and wrong comparisons. 7600 is actually pretty good card for the price
See the pinned comment.
I will choose less tdp with higher price than high tdp in low price
The electricity cost breakdown... at first, I won't lie, was like "Pffffttt who dafuq gives a poop about that?" and, well, must say, thought about it for a sec, and yea, while I might not, others def do somewhere and then I realized I don't really think I've seen a tech YT channel break it down with some graphs like ya did.
Nice hehe
it's $269.99 in the USA!
but, is it a nice one for upgrading a IGPU? consuming 1440 /4k youtube
Problem with video. Your specs are BASIC. GPUs have multiple types of cores and it MAKES A DIFFERENCE. So can you LIST the specs for ALL the cores? PLEASE? I watch a review but then I STILL have to go read about the GPU. If I have to go READ about it I don't know why I should bother with another person's opinion.
Doesn't make any sense to compare it to 4060 Ti
269$ vs 399$ ...
Should be compared to like 6600 XT / 6700 / 6700XT
Thank you for posting this. I really appreciate the comparison with an Nvidia product.
AMD and Nvidia ensuring their old stock aren't collecting dust on the shelves.
If you look up “stagnation” in the dictionary, the picture of RX7600 comes up. It’s literally 6650XT
The glaring problem is the fact that they have so many leftovers from last gen on clearance right now these prices seem dumb. They're pretty much on par for what prices would have been if the event in 2020 hadn't happened, but with a card that's at most 10% slower and 50 bucks cheaper sitting on the shelf next to it...they don't look so good. Rtx 3000 had the benefit of rtx 2000 being a total trainwreck with bad memory artifacting in 2080's raytracing being seen as a gimmick at the time. 4000 and 7000 have to deal with the fact that the tier above from last gen is sitting right next to it at around the same price.
Hopefully that means prices go down even more 🤞
Currently in Australia, the 4600Ti is $650 and the RX7600 is $450, so the RX7600 is actually great value.
It's not a bad alternative. Assuming a 4060 is 500-550AUD I'd be tempted by that though.
I got the RX 7600 but do not feel like I got a deal
Because when you compare it to the rx 6650xt which costs 220$ rn the 7600 doesn't justify the cost for performance. If 7600 is 220-230$ then it would be good.
im so grateful for Nvidia and AMD for helping me saving more money this gen :D
Best power consideration I've ever seen in any video on these cards.
You guys are one of my fav tech channels. Is there anyway you will be revisiting the a750 now that it is discounted to 199 and updated drivers?
Is the card loud and does it coil whine?
This card will for now serve as "a salesman" for rx 6600, 6650 xt and 6700 xt, only later when the price drops will it be interesting.
7600 is not so exciting but at $270 price/performance is matching the 6000-series which are extremely good value at current prices. 6650XT/6700/6700XT/6750XT are absolute budget champions for 1080P and 1440P and then the 7600 just slots into that pack. So not setting the world alight but not terrible, and 25% performance gain over the 6600 is promising for the mid-range 7000-series cards.
Great review as usual guys. I think this GPU will be discounted eventually due to poor sales.
I agree with your conclusion. Really in 2023, cards in this price range should be fully 1440p cards.
Agree, Nvidia 4090 capable to play at 8K at 60fps so 1440p should be the lowest common denomination for mainstream cards
The power consciousness in this video is really winning my heart❤
The utility bill is not to be taken lightly.
If I'm a budget gamer, spiking my power bill is just as bad as an over priced GPU. Worse even. If I need to choose between paying the power bill or paying my sub to FF14, EA Pro or Netflix, that's a no brainer.
Maybe I am over thinking the whole 8 lane thing with the 7600 and the 4060 but that's the other thing that makes me wonder why would I buy that?
I really appreciate the lack of stupid overreaction thumbnails for this channel.
why did AMD go from 7900 XTX/XT to the 7600, did they forget about the 7700 and 7800 ?
They need to sell their 6800-6950XT Stock first.
I'm disappointed at AMD. They should call it RX 7500 XT and price it at 200$. RT performance is not bad compared to previous generation, but not enough uplift in performance overall. This card should have performance of RX 6700 or even RX 6700 XT.
Totally agreed.
Thank you for reviewing. This card might end up in the computers of my kids in a few months. However a 6650 XT will also be sufficient. Time will tell. I really like your running cost calculations. I doubt we will see it for 300 Euro here in the Netherlands. Fingers crossed.
I don't know why she didn't include the 6650xt in the video. it's 229 in price.
Isnt it 269 USD MSRP?
It was 299. Till last night, when they did a sudden price drop. We found out.. 2 hours ago? And by then the video was already made and uploaded. Pinning a comment right now.
@@TechTesters I see. Fair enough.
They panicked 😅
@@TechTesters Acceptable. Both releases are too expensive for what they are.
And the 4060 Ti losing to the 3060 Ti is an insult.
isnt it 269$? 299$ are bad because 6700xt are only 20$ more and have 20% more performance with 12gb vram and 6700 are 269$ and basically same fast or something faster then 7600
See the pinned comment :)
Intel ARC A750 with driver improvements and decent UK & euroland prices looks really good against the RX 7600. Great to have more sub 300 cards new and used hit the market now.
please do a Collab video with LINUS?? your quality reviews and videos are not known to many.. the tech enthusist population needs to know that you channels exists. you are in Netherland so youtube algorithms dont bring it to world maybe.. i also found this channel by actively searching ssd reviews
LMAO! This is how NVIDIA boycott their own product to sell their own product. AMD: Have you heard of discount! hahahaha anyways thank you Nada and Techtester for yet another good review, more power!
Disappointing, I mean don't get me wrong I wouldn't buy it anyway (lack of money, worse raytracing performance, possibly still worse encoding performance/quality, increased power consumption and possibly temps), but it would have been nice to see some real competition for once. The drop to 269 is not bad, but IMO this is a 199 card. (Euros).
Thanks for the video.
I agree, price is to high for the specs. The 6650xt is 229.
What sets this channel apart from the rest is they include power usage when reviewing GPUs. Something that most channels doesn't do, they are all about fps and whatnots.
Glad you enjoy the power graphs :D
I feel bad for the reviewers these days. The pricing is all messed up and the consumer didnt help anyone by buying over inflated cards before the pandemic nor after.
still is not a good buy at 269 when you can get 6700 none xts for 280 and 6700xts for like 320 to 360 depending where you look, which will give you more VRAM. Oh and this is new... going used I have seen 6700xts for as low as 290 here in the UK. Seeing as everyone is raging about VRAM and that 8gb is not it even on budget I dont see why anyone would pick this thing up. They also dropped the 6600 and 6600xt down more...
I'm actually a AMD fanboy... But I still don't know if I have to update in this new generation...
No need, AMD GPU really disappointing because it didn't delivered what 2 years update should. I only recommend this cards if you want to use AV1 encoder which can be found also in AMD zen 5 CPU.
RX 6700XT is cheaper and also have 12GB VRAM which is better at 4K gaming
I'm a massive GPU nerd and I bought the 4060 Ti Founders Edition and RX 7600 Reference Card to collect them. I'm extremely disappointed in their performance. I never planned on using them but I'm probably going to return the 4060 Ti. 4060 Ti is the most disappointing GPU launch ever.
It seems Rdna3 went very very badly wrong for Amd
Honestly you are comparing a 7600 to a 4060ti a more fair comparison would be the 7600xt Vs the 4060ti or the 4060 Vs 7600 when they launch. Hopefully the 7600xt performs the same as the 3060ti or even 4060ti since it's not that far fetched and sell it for $100 cheaper
These are the two cheapest AMD/NV cards from the current generation. How is more data bad and how does it not help you decide which one might make sense for you?
They actually dropped it $60 not 30.
I had doubt about witch one will be better for me because, i can't afford a new
power supply (at least for now) for my 500w PSU. Looks like NVidia won this one.
If power is a concern, Nvidia is definitely the safer choice.
Perhaps for the next GPU releases.. save time and just say.. "crap don't bother-save your money- go outside- revisit what grass looks and feels like" just get the feeling they want to kill PCs off!
'MAYBE AMD have something up their sleeve' Did anyone else see the nose twitch ? Got to be code for AMD definitely HAS SOMETHING UP THEIR SLEEVE ? or a double bluff ?!? . Well the cheeky charm only adds the this channels style and flare ! NDA Helsinki syndrome haha.
My first impressions after watching my 'big 4' Tech RUclipsr's (LTT, GN, J2C and TT) this really feels like a respectable product that could use a 12GB option. Try and shave off around 15-25 currency units. Really weird AMD didn't just go with 12GB Buffer by default when they threw shade and Intel were thoughtful enough to give us all ARC 770 16GB - Doesn't that card look like a great purchase and no wonder it's basically sold out. 12GB version of this for say 309 feels like a real slam dunk. Had it had 192 Bit bus would have been a little ripper.
Its $260 Now
Amd came to senses, somewhat
Hi Nada ☺✌
Meh. I'll wait for the RX 7700 series... see if it's even worth the upgrade price wise.
between RX 7600 and RTX 4060ti, I'll choose you
I'm so confused by the tech side of YT, both the 4060 ti and rx 7600 are being sold as 1080p cards yet one cost a lot more than the other yet both are seen as bad?
Both are disappointing. Both can still be the “best” option for you depending on your situation.
@@TechTesters Still don't make it a good option.
I have a 1440p monitor so 1080p gpu is useless for me.🤥
Sorry for being rude - but this needs to be said: This is what happens what people who don't know what they are talking about make reviews of mid range products. Let me guess you are used to high end stuff? The RX 7600 is an amazing card!... Ok if you actually care - then I will try to explain why - so I can hear your arguments - or see if you have any at all! This is gonna be a bit long I'm sure cause it's hard to explain quickly.
Here we go:
"I wish we got more" ... Really? You do? So a 20%-ish performance uplift and 60$ less in one generation is not good enough. Yeah sure I realize that is was 30$ - but even a 20% generation uplift at 30$ less - or about 10% less price - is some pretty good generational uplift right there?!
Ok a small disclaimer which many people don't understand - so I will try (The creators of the video is not a target for this part - but rather for the general debate about this card which I'm currently hearing from people I'm helping build a mid range setup and who have been "reading up online"):
One rules people NEED TO GET INTO THEIR HEADS is this: The mid range PC gamer is looking for a smooth playable framerate - mainly at 1080p (according to ALL the charts) They want good looking graphics - however to the VAST majority - all the "extra stuff" which takes away from your FPS is disabled. (again - according to all the charts) - this means that almost no one is shopping for an RTX XX60 or RX X6XX card with raytracing in mind! Raytracing is a thing which might be turned on for 5 minutes to go "that looks pretty" - and then replaced by "now give me back my high FPS"... For this reason - any arguments which goes "But what about RT" - should go debate about 500$+ GPUs. This is a 269$ GPU... - and just a note - I have a halo tier card in my main rig - so I have RT on all the time... except when I forget and still think it's on - because when you are playing you quickly stop to notice if the reflections in a puddle a crispy AF or not!
So to my actual problem with the whole sentiment that this card is in ANY way a let down:
Ok riddle me this: If the 4060 Ti barely outperforms the 3060 Ti - and sometimes loses slightly... how will a cut down version of the 4060 Ti - aka the 300$ 4060 perform vs the RX 6650 XT which in comparison to the 3060 Ti is -5 to 25% slower? So in essence a 230$ card which can do 105% at best and 75% at worst of the 3060 Ti - which is last gen... because the 7600 is not going up against the 4060 Ti - it's going up against the 4060! You actually start out well in somewhat pointing this out - however you seem to still get a bit blinded by the numbers from the 4060 Ti. It's NOT a good comparison. A good comparison would be putting it up against the older brother - aka the RX 6600.
A hint to how this will play out could be: The 6650 XT fairly firmly beats the 3060 - and only in a few outliers can it JUST BARELY keep up with it - like in "Days gone". So if the 4060 is only slightly better than the 3060 like the 4060 Ti is only slightly better than the 3060 Ti....... then it's AT LEAST 50$ overpriced since the gaps in price/performance don't line up for Nvidia. It NEEDS to be A LOT better than the 3060 was to the 3060 Ti to even justify 230$ of the 6650 XT - let alone the 269$ of the 7600 - not to mention the 300$ MSRP. (In less convoluted words: The 4060 needs to beat the 6650XT/7600 which both beat up the 3060 by a fair bit - to in any way be worth the 300$ pricetag - which will be hard if the generation performance gap is maintained from the 3060 Ti vs 4060 Ti) And the kicker here is this. The Ti is supposed to be the "big daddy" version of the tier it's in right? So the card the 4060 Ti is up against is not actually the RX 7600 - because that card is a 269$ MSRP card. That's the card some people are putting it up against - and that's just - wrong? It's ACTUALLY the unreleased 7600 XT or 7650 XT. Those cards are coming soon... most likely :-D - and if they keep the price and performance gap between the XT/XX50 XT vs the non-XT from the previous gen - then the 4060 and the 4060 Ti are gonna look even worse...... because the 7600 is VERY close in performance to the last gen balls to the wall version in this class from AMD - the 6650 XT - so wonder how the 7650 XT will perform - AGAIN - if it all lines up.
Just to refresh your memory - the RX 6600 had a MSRP of 329$ - and the RX 7600 has an MSRP of 269$ - aka 60$ less for the new gen! Think about that! Just for one second forget ALL about fanboy-ism! We are being told that "GPUs get more and more expensive to make" - YET the X600 series from AMD is 60$ lower for the NEW card! Why is no one celebrating this? 😀
NOW - the RX 6600 is not REALLY in the same performance class as the 6650 XT - just like the non-ti version of the 3060 is fairly massively outdone by the 3060 Ti... So the fact that we are getting a 269$ MSRP card with - with unmatured drivers - is on par with the last gen 399$ MSRP RX 6650 XT + AV1 encoder and other stuff - is ACTUALLY insane! Yes the 6650 XT is cheaper now which is normal (till stock runs out) - however - it this sorta craps all over Nvidias excuses for demanding such high prices for their mid tier cards!
It's some VERY good generational performance uplift at a much lower price!
Now please - tell me how this card is disappointing again! I don't see how you can if you compare it to the right cards.
In other news my car SUCK because it's not a Veyron! 😀Massively disappointing!
(Also most likely messed up some grammar or missed pointing something out which makes no sense - so will be happy to clarify 😀English is not my native tongue.)
What happened to the 7600xt
I'd ask AMD but their communication was pretty weak lately.
I think your take on these two GPUs is as good as it can be. They were bad and overpriced GPUs with extremely small dies in Nvidia's case, typically reserved for lower tier GPUs. The 4060 will be rocking a 50 class die, so it will be just as bad.
Best title ever, lol!
looking from tests that you have made, seems like AMD have problem with drivers ... I assume , some how, the past told me ;)
Amd should have dropped the price to $250.00 , it should have had better review .
Nice breakdown. Ive come expect good things from this channel and im never disappointed. Good job. As for Amd and nvidia. shame!
2€ more per month for electricity bill, worst case scenario? Big whoop, lol.
Nobody should care about these TDP differences.
If you game 8h a day go with lower consumption card :D
Btw great representation with the wattage, really love that part!
I love your videos❤.
This generation of video cards is forgettable. Amd's previous cards are the real stars here.
Nvidia RTX 4060 should be called the 4050
My used 3060ti is laughing at the current gen. Don't bother buying cards with 128bit bus.
Where is she from?
Netherlands
I guess 4060 non ti and 7600 will be very close in raw performance, but power usage difference will be just humiliating. Also nvenc is miles better, DLSS is better quality than FSR, CUDA is widely supported on most popular software, normal support for OpenGL, DX11 ect. But in some peoples mind amd "won" because it will be 30 usd cheaper ... jesus christ that disconnect from reality.
AMD is "winning" because this is actually kinda an upgrade from the 6600 non XT. The 4060ti is even with the 3060ti.
Nvidia will unlaunch the 4060ti in a few weeks/months and then relaunch it as the 4050ti I'd bet.
AMD will drop the 7600's price $25-50 in the same time.
That said- pascal/Turing to the grave.
I wouldn't be surprised if the 7600 drops to 250 or even lower and AMD cards are known for getting better with driver updates.
Not saying it wil always be the better choice over the 4060 but DLSS isn't relevant to everyone. The reviewer of pcviewer noted that using DLSS at 1080p can actually result in artefacts.
Another bad release.
It is great to see the power consumption and the total cost of power charts.
Love Your Work. I Mean it. usually I download video of every channel I Sub . But Sis for You I pause my add blocker and paly your videos with. maybe it help you
next time also add productivity
they don't compare as they are different tiers of performance and price
Sure you can, you can think about whether the difference is worth spending more on (or if it even ends up cheaper in the long run).
@@TechTesters that's true, too bad they are both bad compared to other cards. Maybe when you have a bit more time you can compile your benchmarks from the past 12 months and show us the best value cards. Good work nonetheless 🙏
@@damasterpiece08 the goal is to have a lot more cards retested fully. Its just a lot of work ;)
I share your disappointment: poor performance, bad efficiency, not so great price and not enough memory not to be outdated in the next 5 years or so. What's not to like. Makes the 4060Ti looks good even if the Ti is very underwhelming compared to past generation. i expected more. I would not buy it as an entry level card for today gaming not at that price..
Your pal Coco. OOps i missed the part with the price drop but yea still not that great a card.
4060 Ti a beautiful looking card, the 7600 ( reference model ) looks like a plastic toy
I see an NVIDIA fanboy here😂😂😂
@@lelouchabrilvelda1794 I see a AMD cult member, seek help
I call it "3 inch gpu"
I'l let you figure out why lmao