Music Man Amps: A Short History
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A short history about music man amps.
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Forrest White came to our music store in the 70's to sign us up as a dealer. My father knew him from the Fender days and told me to pay attention to him. He brought out a small amp. My first reaction was that we didn't need another Princeton type amp . That was my impression until I plugged it in . Wow! This was no Princeton, these were amazing! When Ernie Ball Bought Music Man I was disappointed that they didn't continue the amps.
My favorites were the white Tolex RP amps. I still have a demo cabinet to show how the amps were built. Solid wood top and sides. Proper plywood back and speaker baffle. One nice touch was the front top corners that protected the knobs in case of a tip over. The amps were very reliable and we didn't have warranty problems with them.
Thank you for sharing this!
I was 16 years old, knew nothing about amps, and was lucky enough to choose a new 115RP. I still have it 40+ years later.
In the 80s and 90s I used two 112 Rds in stereo and I remember a soundcheck when a guy who played the stage before us with a Marshall fullstack came to me and said to me that he could not believe that these little amps sounded so much bigger and more dynamic than his fullstack. Often I used one 112Rd as a top for an 4x12 closed cab. It rocked every stage! Especially in warm conditions. MMs like It hot.😊
I have owned more than 12 of them. I am down to six as I sold all the ones 200 watts + as they were too heavy to move. I have four 50 waters, and two 65, and one 75! I love them!
Since '82 I've played a 112RD -EV with a 35 pound magnet pushing it with a twin tube preamp and multi modulation. Man it has a rock sound like no other but cleans up perfectly.
I've had a MM 212 for almost 20 years, and a 112RD for over 10 now but never realized there was a 110. I'd love to come across one one day!
I lost out on buying a MM amp
In 1979. I finally got a HD 130 head in 1988 and still use it today. The first cabinet was a peavy that I put in an ElectroVoice 15” from 1980. Since 2009 I’ve used Hartke XL 410 and 115 cabinets. The head has the 4 original EL 34 tubes as well as the Sylvania Milspec rectifier tube. It hasn’t needed any servicing or repairs. The sound is very linear, clear, responsive to my basses.
I love the rd50. Have two, one with EV and one with an WGS G12C/S. Both killer!
Wonderful video. Lovely to see a jazz guitar educator celebrating these fine amps. I've owned an RD 210 since 1982 and play it almost every day. Also purchased an RP112 about four years ago and love for different reasons.
To develop this brilliant video it would be great if you could discuss the various ways one could EQ these amps.
Once again, tremendous video.
Thank you for the kind words Trevor. I find my 110 sounds best with the treble on about 1 and bass at 3.
I have a Sixty Five 212 and it’s been my main amp for decades, despite having a bunch of vintage amps (Fender, Ampeg, Supro…) as well.
I own an RD 50. Has an EV in it. Bought it 81 or 82. Pulled it out recently after playing some other amps and was a bit blown away. Used a Boss OD pedal and it sang.
Hi , the legendary Little Feat used Music Man amps live for a while I think.
Nice amps .
My old MusicMan 65, which I've owned since the 70s, is my favourite ever sounding amp. The problem is that my days of lugging amps weighing more than 60 lbs to gigs are long over. Nowadays I play Quilter amps, which do a job that's about 98% of the way there at about a third of the weight.
Have an HD 130 head I updated and slight modes the amp it’s great!
I had a MM 112RD 50 or 65 (can't recall which) back in the early '80's. I was a noob looking for more gain at the time and didn't know anything about pedals. I couldn't get enough distortion out of it to suit me. I traded it and a '70's Strat for my brother's '64 Chevrolet Chevelle Malibu SS convertible. The car's long gone. My brother still has the amp.
I have a 112 RD 50; both channels are great. You don’t need an OD pedal, that’s for sure. Reverb is great too, for a tank🥰
Cool amp, my brother asked me yesterday if I wanted his 112
I used to have a 112 now just a 110
Interesting. Nice job Jamie.
They remind me of the Fender 65 Super Reverb but were made when modeling amps were using tube amps out of the way so they combined the solid state and the tube really cool.
I have two 112 RD fifty amps and they are great, especially live as they are loud enough to be heard over the band. I went to see Chet Atkins play at a club in Houston. After the show, I got to talking with his 2nd guitar player, Paul Yandell, and he showed me Chet's 2 112 RD fifty amps. He said Chet had a several rooms in his house filled with amps, but the 112 RD fifty was his favorite and he and Paul had been using them for years. If it was good enough for Chet? They are almost indestructible too. Yes, they are super clean, but they take pedals well. Very practical design.
Yes the 112 is great with a full band!
Joe Perry’s music man amps were highly modified. Any info on the mods would make a great video. It’s on eBay now for $25K!!!!
Have a rd100 head...great amp..got it recapped.
I've owned several amps, including all the BF fenders. The 112 RD 50 is still my favorite. Great video!
Thanks for sharing
Thanks! I used to have one
@@jamieholroydguitarI almost sold it. Once I put a well broken in Jensen c12n with some good tubes and a cap job I was blown away. Mine is a 1981 in excellent condition. And like Johnny Winter said in the clip, bass down treble almost all the way up is the best setting for the circuit.
Hi there
That RD50 1 12 is only for gigs?
Is there a way to play at bedroom volume?
Thanks I am semi beginner don't know much about amps
But this thing sounds the way i like 😊
my best amp
own hd130 reverb Head since 1978, one time repiar/refresh.....blow the doors off of fort Knox....wonderful amp.
Nice to see and hear Albert Lee playing a Telecaster, something he really shines at, instead of the red Music Man guitar he has been playing in recent years. I do wish you'd shown a clip of Johnny Winter playing and maybe skipped over one of the jazz-coma players......
5:24 - Ah, that Eric Clapton promo shot. :) One of the reasons I got an MM 112-RD 50 back in ... early 80s, I guess? Had it for a long time, but eventually gave way to a Rivera. Both great amps!
The guitarist in one of my bands has one. I occasionally switch to guitar and, to save bringing two amps, he'll use my bass amp and I'll use his guitar amp.
I do enjoy playing it, seems to handle everything I can throw at it and just has a really clean sound. We're an improv band who don't really fit any genre, so that's a lot of things for it to handle!
Sadly, I feel like the guitarist will be selling it before long - I'll miss it!
Hey I know it's been a year, but AFAIK the most famous jazz guitarist using an RD50 is Ben Monder. He's the reason I bought one in the early 2000s and bought another one five or six years ago. The solid state/tube combo is perfect for jazz tone.
Very cool thanks for sharing! Does he play a 10 or 12 RD?
@@jamieholroydguitar God it's been ten years since I've seen him live, I'm afraid. And RUclips videos don't help, either my info is old or he's using house amps when he tours. (Or both.) Speaking of MM amps, though, did you see about the release of The Bard?
i used for a long time a fender champ 25 se (ss preamp, tube phaseinverter and tube poweramp)… the clean channel is beautiful… (while the overdrive useless is)…
I have a MM 112 Rd 50 watt
and a MM 112 RD 100 watt
They were fairly cheap but these days prices are climbing.
I like the fact that I don't have to buy pre-amp tubes
They are not cathode biased, they a cathode driven, that is a very different thing.
Thank you for that info. I've been misled.@@qddk9545
I used to have to carry a box of preamp tubes for my 1979 Fender Bandmaster Reverb because it would Blow tubes if I didn’t let it cool
Down enough before moving it. We played out every week so moving was a weekly risk.
Chris Cain is the man!
my 210 65 goes great with my gretsch hollowbody!
Just bought a black faced 210 like the one Joan used, smells like it could have been one of hers, has cigarette melts along the front edge. Where did you get that snipet about her I'd like to know.
I think it was a premier guitar clip
I’m not sure about what you said about MM amps not being scooped and trebley like Fender amps. As far as I know, and from what I’ve heard from the larger models, they are voiced pretty identically to Fender’s Blackfaces, just with more headroom, which was always a priority for Leo. Maybe the one you are talking about was just less scooped sounding because it was a ten inch speaker in a small cab, which tends to create a more midrange tone, and would cancel out some of the scooped character of the EQ?
Don’t know I’ve always found Fenders have lots of highs and lows but not much mids though that’s just my opinion.
My RD 110 was a giant killer.
Great amp I used to have one!
Those little RP & RD 50s whether a 110 or 112 are brutes ! Look disarming but can pack a surprising punch for the size ! ...
Yep!
I was determined to find a quieter desktop amp because we live in a condo, but none of them compared in tone to my 110 RD 50. I wish there was a cheap attenuater for this old amp, but I haven't found one. But I have learned to find the sweet spot between 0 and 1 and use my pedals to dial in the tone and volume I like. Also, I used to hate the preamp solid state distortion, but I've also found ways to make that work and now love it for different tunes.
I own a 150W with 2X10s. Can be bloody loud if you want
I can imagine!
@@jamieholroydguitar Hard to explain, but it really does feel a bit like a Roland JC120 and a Fender Twin had a child
Thanks for this! What’s your experience with Laney amps? Wondering about their clean tone.
Thanks. I haven’t used or played one in a long time, but seem to remember thinking they were ok cheap transistor amps like Peavey.
@@jamieholroydguitar thanks! I’m trying to find a decent practice amp with a headphone jack for around 500 US and am having a difficult time deciding. I’m trying to stay away from modelers but that seems more difficult than you might think. The search continues…
Bow do you run a serial number on one to find out the year? I bought a 112rp with the pedal for reverb and phaser has a ev 12 speaker black background badge ?
Ben monder uses one
Didn’t know thanks for letting me know!
I heard a three piece rock band where the guitar player was using a 1x12 model with some pedals. He sounded enormous. They were doing Hendrix and other classic rock covers. The MMs were a very common backline amp in the late '70s and early '80s. Here's Knopfler when he was sporting one. Sounds great: ruclips.net/video/CZSvgVz_0F0/видео.html
Thanks for that! I hadn’t seen that
Thanks for the great info! Another artist of note is the country group Alabama who used Music Man for several years after coming onto the scene in 1980. Here is a live performance from 82 with them all playing through MM guitars and amps. ruclips.net/video/M6WfM0cXWSQ/видео.html
Thank you!